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Libertytree
2nd November 2012, 12:05 PM
There was a clip on the news earlier of how some displaced residents that were holding up in NYC hotels were being evicted for Marathon runners.
Ouch. How's that for a big ole efff uuuuuu
Ouch, don't even touch it, dayum. It'd serve the city and the marathon right if the race got sabotaged at every turn by those folks. I read elsewhere that there's 4 huge generators sitting where the finish line is, I wonder if they couldn't be put to better use? (sarc)
iOWNme
2nd November 2012, 01:53 PM
Talk about a staged event....You have to make the Politicians look like they are actualy doing something. But this whole storm has now turned into a political football for the Dems v Repubs. Should be a great game!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yliFvv4i4sc
EE_
2nd November 2012, 01:55 PM
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Utility workers pelted with eggs after Bridgeport, Conn. mayor blasts provider
Published November 02, 2012
FoxNews.com
AP
Angry residents pelted utility crews with eggs as they tried to restore power in Bridgeport, Conn., after the mayor claimed the local power company had "shortchanged" the state's largest city as it tries to recover from superstorm Sandy.
United Illuminating workers reported eggs and other objects being thrown at them a day after Mayor Bill Finch said the utility was taking care of wealthy suburbs while his constituents suffered. The unrest caused United Illuminating to pull its workers out until the city agreed to provide police protection.
"Citizens began throwing things at the crews," Michael West, a spokesman for United Illuminating, told FoxNews.com. "It started to get pretty hairy. They did not feel safe."
West said it started with verbal abuse and escalated.
"We communicated with the city and said if you don’t provide police support, we can't have our crews there in harm's way," he said.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/02/bridgeport-utility-workers-report-having-objects-thrown-at-them-by-residents/#ixzz2B5wA67xd
MNeagle
2nd November 2012, 01:55 PM
:o :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reUi7ncHduQ&feature=player_embedded
Libertytree
2nd November 2012, 02:41 PM
Note to Bloomberg: The New York City Marathon should not go on
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/note-to-bloomberg--the-new-york-city-marathon-should-not-go-on.html
In the wake of Superstorm Sandy, ultramarathoner Dean Karnazes' first instinct was not to run the New York City Marathon. So he canceled. Then he heard from the organizers who said Mayor Michael Bloomberg was urging runners to compete.
"That's when I changed my plan," Karnazes told Yahoo! Sports.
So he hopped on a redeye from San Francisco, landed in New York early Friday morning ready to run on Sunday.
But now his emotions are at odds.
"I have to be honest, I'm really conflicted," Karnazes said. "I just can't imagine the grief that people are feeling right now. It just seems like it's too close."
He's not alone.
Now that he's in the city, Karnazes is talking to fellow runners who are just as concerned if not more so about the race being run. Karnazes said, "Half the people would be relieved if it was canceled."
That's what Bloomberg should do.
The mayor's initial decision to go ahead with the event was optimistic and uplifting. He should go back on it.
A woman walks through a flooded street in Staten Island. (Reuters)As the hours count down before the start of the marathon Sunday morning, it's become clear a race that once promised to be a triumphant moment for a city battered by Sandy is looking like a mistake that symbolizes misplaced priorities far more than feats of athleticism.
A lot of minds were surely changed Friday morning when the New York Post showed a photograph on its cover of two massive generators, strong enough to power up to 400 homes in darkened Staten Island, that will instead be used to power the marathon's media center. The machines were purchased with private money, but the message was clear: visitors to Manhattan get resources while city residents in outer boroughs suffer.
The city is not ready. People are still without power and plumbing. Falling temperatures are making their severe problems worse. The forecast is for temperatures in the 20s in New York City on Saturday night – the night before the marathon – with another nor'easter on the way next week. A crane still dangles precariously above the city. And Staten Island, so often forgotten in the glow of Manhattan, remains in a state of crisis.
"They forgot about us," 42-year-old Staten Island resident Theresa Connor told Metro, describing her neighborhood as "annihilated." "And Bloomberg said New York is fine. The marathon is on!"
There is still an emergency in New York City, and the idea of thousands of people running through it, stopping along the way for Gatorade and bananas, then being greeted by fans at the end, is cringeworthy at best. For the sake of everyone involved – and certainly everyone in Staten Island and parts of Queens and Manhattan who is not involved – Mayor Bloomberg should postpone it.
Quite simply, a city that could not accommodate the president of the United States this week (http://news.yahoo.com/bloomberg-now-not-time-obama-nyc-visit-002345945.html) surely cannot accommodate thousands of visitors in one day.
This is nothing against the marathon, the terrific people who organize it or the commendable people who run it. Athletes and weekend warriors shouldn't be demonized here; many have deep reservations about participating, and many want to run to honor those in need. The marathon is a jewel – not only for the city but for the country. It stands for the best things about New York: the people, the spirit, the togetherness.
It also brings a lot of money to the city – upwards of $300 million. But it will bring in hundreds of millions if it's run in April. Sure, the city wants to show its resilience, but the symbolism of running a race won't provide real help to anyone. Let's worry about what needs to happen in the next few hours. And that is rescue and recovery.
"I think this is an example of what infuriates people here on Staten Island," Congressman Michael Grimm said at a press conference Thursday. "We have people – people still in water. Families displaced, families wondering where their grandparents are. Are they at a shelter? Are they at a hospital? Or are they gone? That's what we should be focusing on. I think it would be very misguided to have this marathon."
Some 40,000 runners will kick off the New York City Marathon on Sunday, which starts in Staten Island. (AP)Devoting a single man-hour of an exhausted New York City police force to this race is a disturbing choice. Earlier in the week, it looked like the city could recover more quickly. Clearly it hasn't.
"It's freezing like an ice box," Staten Island resident Lydia Crespo told the Wall Street Journal. "No hot water, no light. All you smell is the gas, the oil, the mold."
Ms. Crespo and all those like her deserve the full resources of a strapped and fatigued city. The full resources – not resources minus what goes to putting on a race.
Even NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is aware of the possible PR nightmare. He has reached out to New Jersey governor Chris Christie to make sure no emergency resources will be devoted to Sunday's Giants home game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Whether that game should even be played is worthy of discussion as well, as wide swaths of New Jersey are still in the dark. The Steelers themselves can't stay overnight because their hotel has no power. Why can't that game be postponed as well?
Sports are wonderful – one of the greatest aspects of American society. They bring out the best in us at the worst times. But now is not the time for sports. Now is the time for the kind of healing sports cannot provide.
Stop the race. Start the generators in Staten Island.
Eric Adelson
Horn
2nd November 2012, 09:59 PM
Before & after, gotta move your mouse over them.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/specials/hurricane-sandy-before-after-photos/
vacuum
2nd November 2012, 10:51 PM
Some people got mad at me when I posted this, but it's a skill everyone should have for shtf scenarios like is happening with the current gasoline shortage. Get up to double your epa rated mileage by hypermiling (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62594-ECO-Fuel-Saver&p=561046&viewfull=1#post561046).
chad
3rd November 2012, 05:48 AM
Some people got mad at me when I posted this, but it's a skill everyone should have for shtf scenarios like is happening with the current gasoline shortage. Get up to double your epa rated mileage by hypermiling (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62594-ECO-Fuel-Saver&p=561046&viewfull=1#post561046).
that's a good skill to have. i practice coasting on the hills around here.
Horn
3rd November 2012, 10:10 AM
A less safe method is to not pay attention to stop signals.
MNeagle
3rd November 2012, 07:01 PM
A Tale Of Two New York Cities
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://gold-silver.us/users/tyler-durden)
Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://gold-silver.us/users/tyler-durden) on
11/03/2012 18:11 -0400
When a photo generates one thousand reactions, even without backup
generators.
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2012/10-2/20121103_NYC_0.jpg (http://nymag.com/nymag/letters/hurricane-sandy-editors-letter-2012-11/?mid=twitter_dailyintel)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-03/tale-two-new-york-cities
Horn
3rd November 2012, 07:28 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2012/10-2/20121103_NYC_0.jpg (http://nymag.com/nymag/letters/hurricane-sandy-editors-letter-2012-11/?mid=twitter_dailyintel)
I imagine one fella going around pulling out bulbs then putting them back in,
the way we do at christmas tree time.
mamboni
4th November 2012, 04:55 PM
I've been without internet until a few minutes ago. I still have no utility power but doing just fine. We are all warm and fed and safe. Being prepped has paid in spades. We will probably get power back tonite or tommorrow. In a way, it will be bittersweet as I have never spent so much quality time with my neighbors as during this outage.
This storm has been very instructive to me and I have been taking notes to improve my preps for the next time. But we did quite well this time around. The key over and above preps is cooperation and sharing with neighbors - this is so important.
Now some disturbing information not being reported on the MSM:
1. A good friend who is a Medicare subcontractor and very reliable informs me that EMT workers in NYC and LI have been issued a gag order under pain of termination not to tell people that the city water supply is contaminated with sewage and is not safe to drink untreated. This information is being deliberately withheld until after the election. This is criminal negliglence on a mass scale and shocking if true.
2. My niece in central LI informs me thatn the situation is far worse than is being reported by the MSM. Hundreds of thousands are out of power for weeks to come. There is rioting and looting. The national guard have been called in to supervise gas lines which are over 6 hour waits for a few gallons of gasoline. She has seen dead bodies floating. Hundreds of homes are destroyed. Looting is a huge problem. People are becoming panicked and unhinged. Things are going to get a lot worse as food and water runs out and temperatures drop below freezing. And we are expecting another Noreaster on Wednesday.
Folks, if this doesn't wake people up to the need to be prepped and get out of the densely populated areas, then nothing will.
Ponce
4th November 2012, 05:03 PM
Yea Dr, you found out that "To be ready is no" because there is always something else to do....... and that's why I sit on recliner in the dark and play the game of ... what would happen if?........iluminaring as to how many new ideas I can come up with.
slowbell
4th November 2012, 05:23 PM
2. My niece in central LI informs me thatn the situation is far worse than is being reported by the MSM. Hundreds of thousands are out of power for weeks to come. There is rioting and looting. The national guard have been called in to supervise gas lines which are over 6 hour waits for a few gallons of gasoline. She has seen dead bodies floating. Hundreds of homes are destroyed. Looting is a huge problem. People are becoming panicked and unhinged. Things are going to get a lot worse as food and water runs out and temperatures drop below freezing. And we are expecting another Noreaster on Wednesday.
Mamboni, thanks for the update. I'm glad you are safe.
I have a good friend, more like a brother to me, who's a cop on LI. I know you folks don't like cops, but he's one of the good ones. We served on the fire dept. together. I've been praying for him.
I very much appreciate hearing what MSM is not reporting. Mamboni, thank you for the report. Be well and safe.
Shami-Amourae
4th November 2012, 05:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I293Ci7FddI
MNeagle
4th November 2012, 05:36 PM
I've been without internet until a few minutes ago. I still have no utility power but doing just fine. We are all warm and fed and safe. Being prepped has paid in spades. We will probably get power back tonite or tommorrow. In a way, it will be bittersweet as I have never spent so much quality time with my neighbors as during this outage.
This storm has been very instructive to me and I have been taking notes to improve my preps for the next time. But we did quite well this time around. The key over and above preps is cooperation and sharing with neighbors - this is so important.
Now some disturbing information not being reported on the MSM:
1. A good friend who is a Medicare subcontractor and very reliable informs me that EMT workers in NYC and LI have been issued a gag order under pain of termination not to tell people that the city water supply is contaminated with sewage and is not safe to drink untreated. This information is being deliberately withheld until after the election. This is criminal negliglence on a mass scale and shocking if true.
2. My niece in central LI informs me thatn the situation is far worse than is being reported by the MSM. Hundreds of thousands are out of power for weeks to come. There is rioting and looting. The national guard have been called in to supervise gas lines which are over 6 hour waits for a few gallons of gasoline. She has seen dead bodies floating. Hundreds of homes are destroyed. Looting is a huge problem. People are becoming panicked and unhinged. Things are going to get a lot worse as food and water runs out and temperatures drop below freezing. And we are expecting another Noreaster on Wednesday.
Folks, if this doesn't wake people up to the need to be prepped and get out of the densely populated areas, then nothing will.
When did you lose internet? The water being unsafe to drink was covered in the MSM, though perhaps not widely enough?
k-os
4th November 2012, 05:50 PM
I've been without internet until a few minutes ago. I still have no utility power but doing just fine. We are all warm and fed and safe. Being prepped has paid in spades. We will probably get power back tonite or tommorrow. In a way, it will be bittersweet as I have never spent so much quality time with my neighbors as during this outage.
This storm has been very instructive to me and I have been taking notes to improve my preps for the next time. But we did quite well this time around. The key over and above preps is cooperation and sharing with neighbors - this is so important.
Now some disturbing information not being reported on the MSM:
1. A good friend who is a Medicare subcontractor and very reliable informs me that EMT workers in NYC and LI have been issued a gag order under pain of termination not to tell people that the city water supply is contaminated with sewage and is not safe to drink untreated. This information is being deliberately withheld until after the election. This is criminal negliglence on a mass scale and shocking if true.
2. My niece in central LI informs me thatn the situation is far worse than is being reported by the MSM. Hundreds of thousands are out of power for weeks to come. There is rioting and looting. The national guard have been called in to supervise gas lines which are over 6 hour waits for a few gallons of gasoline. She has seen dead bodies floating. Hundreds of homes are destroyed. Looting is a huge problem. People are becoming panicked and unhinged. Things are going to get a lot worse as food and water runs out and temperatures drop below freezing. And we are expecting another Noreaster on Wednesday.
Folks, if this doesn't wake people up to the need to be prepped and get out of the densely populated areas, then nothing will.
I am so happy that you and yours are doing well, mamboni. Thanks for the updates. Scary stuff.
I had dinner with a friend tonight, and she told me that her brother works for the power company in upstate NY. He is being sent to New Jersey for a minimum of two weeks, and is being paid $1200 per day to work 16 hour days. The conditions are: He has to bring all of the food he is going to eat in two weeks, plus a campstove, and he has to sleep in his truck. So, basically, camping in his truck. He's a coordinator, so he's bringing a crew as well. No word on how much they are making, but I bet it's pretty steep as well.
I'm thinking it's hazard pay, essentially, and I am sure they have to sign a waiver holding the power company harmless if anything riot related happens. Although, only complete idiots would impede the progress of the power company people.
mamboni
4th November 2012, 06:02 PM
When did you lose internet? The water being unsafe to drink was covered in the MSM, though perhaps not widely enough?
I've been off line for about 2 days, with rare intermittent service for minutes.
mamboni
5th November 2012, 08:02 AM
Yea Dr, you found out that "To be ready is no" because there is always something else to do....... and that's why I sit on recliner in the dark and play the game of ... what would happen if?........iluminaring as to how many new ideas I can come up with.
Ponce: Now I am here, sent to bring you home.
Dr. mamboni (http://gold-silver.us/name/nm0000509/): Home? I have no home. Hunted, despised, Living like an animal! The jungle is my home. But I will show the world that I can be its master! I will perfect my own race of people. A race of atomic supermen which will conquer the world! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
chad
5th November 2012, 08:50 AM
finally got ahold of my buddy who lives (lived) in rockaway last night. he's getting on a bus to come back to iowa today. he said rockaway is basically a scene from a movie at this point. looting, roving bands of people banding together to steal stuff, no food, no water, no electricity, etc. he said whole neighborhoods were on fire next door at breezy point over the weekend. no police or fire response.
he said he decided to come back to iowa when he saw a band of about 7 guys with baseball bats going car to car siphoning (stealing) gas from them. he expects total breakdown soon if they don't get the power back on.
DMac
5th November 2012, 09:09 AM
Mamboni - Chad:
Those are some extreme stories. I have friends/family around Staten Island, Long Island, Brooklyn and Queens. Some in hard hit areas still without power etc.. Been in contact almost every day and I have heard nothing like what you guys are saying!
slowbell
5th November 2012, 09:10 AM
finally got ahold of my buddy who lives (lived) in rockaway last night. he's getting on a bus to come back to iowa today. he said rockaway is basically a scene from a movie at this point. looting, roving bands of people banding together to steal stuff, no food, no water, no electricity, etc. he said whole neighborhoods were on fire next door at breezy point over the weekend. no police or fire response.
he said he decided to come back to iowa when he saw a band of about 7 guys with baseball bats going car to car siphoning (stealing) gas from them. he expects total breakdown soon if they don't get the power back on.
My buddy on LI called me last night. I was very happy to hear he's safe. Where he was, they didn't get a direct hit from the storm. His power was out until yesterday.
I didn't get a chance to talk to him for very long, but he said something similar to chad's post. He called it a zombie apocalypse. He talked about the gas shortages, and folks fighting with each other for gas. He went on a rant about how the countries going to completely collapse the direction we are heading, how we need to get Obama out of the office. I've never talked to him or seen him so worked up. He's definitely awake about what we talk about on this forum.
Libertytree
5th November 2012, 09:13 AM
I'm still waiting to hear back from my friend in NJ, the last I talked with him was last Monday before the storm hit. He has a family and isn't the prepping type so I'm a little concerned.
chad
5th November 2012, 09:14 AM
Mamboni - Chad:
Those are some extreme stories. I have friends/family around Staten Island, Long Island, Brooklyn and Queens. Some in hard hit areas still without power etc.. Been in contact almost every day and I have heard nothing like what you guys are saying!
to be fair, from what i've seen on the news rockaway and breezy point seem to be among the worst case scenario. the news clips i've seen of people standing in gas lines other places don't seem to be anywhere near that bad. he said the #1 thing anyone cares about is gas. a lot of people are scrounging for gas so they can run their car with the heather on and sleep in it (as there's no other heat available).
Horn
5th November 2012, 09:21 AM
Most of my buddies are out in the boonies up there, but say there are still bodies out there undiscovered.
Friend of friend who lives in the city says he wants nothing more than to get out of the city to move somewhere else now. He has (3) ambulances he contracts & had no work for the past 3 months, until Sandy hit.
slowbell
5th November 2012, 09:55 AM
he said the #1 thing anyone cares about is gas.
This is what my buddy said too. He said a lot of stations just don't have power still. He mentioned 6 hour lines, police guarding stations. He said in one instance someone hit another person over the head with a rock, fighting over gas. In his terms, folks turned into a "bunch of crazy animals."
There is a good prep lesson here: Gas.
DMac
5th November 2012, 10:03 AM
Playing it safe before the storm that is coming on Wednesday we went out Sunday morning to fill up. After talking with folks at a local deli we found some were waiting on lines for hours, stations that ran out after waiting. I took a shot and went into a smaller town and found a station with gas (all stations have had only 87 octane BTW). About a 45 min wait and we were full.
Gas is out there if you know where to look. I've been doing regular twitter searches with town names like 'gas white plains' and you will see folks posting about when and where gas could be found.
Overall though, gas is definitely the top prep item folks DO NOT have. Given how many various apartment buildings are all over NY and surrounding areas this should be of no surprise. Storing gasoline in an apt complex is a big no-no.
undgrd
5th November 2012, 10:16 AM
The risks involved with storing gas is what led me to propane.
steel_ag
8th November 2012, 08:52 PM
who here was born in a storm? I was...
Katmandu
11th November 2012, 07:56 AM
Extent of power outage after Sandy hit:
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Lights-Out.png
http://i46.tinypic.com/k1f9z.png
Ponce
11th November 2012, 08:48 AM
As of late my dog is barking a lot at night, and he is not the king to bark at a fly on the wall, all that I do is to turn on all the lights outside from my bed with my remote and therty seconds later the dog stops barking..........I know only turn on my bedside monitor when the alarm for my "No USRael" sign goes off.
By the way......I know have hundred and hundred of apples on the ground...more than ever...anyone else? and they are real sweet.
PatColo
12th November 2012, 01:13 AM
thread needs a fresh doom injection,
Earthquake and Tsunami Warning for US West Coast Nov 13th (http://whitetv.se/en/mind-control-mk-ultra/421.html)
Sunday, 11 November 2012 19:47
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