View Full Version : 72 Hours After Grid-Down..........
Ponce
3rd November 2012, 10:00 AM
Go to link for a lot of pictures:........get ready today for tomorrow, or tomorrow you will be dead. =============================================
http://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2012/11/shock-72-hours-after-grid-down-starvation-supply-shortages-food-lines-no-clean-water-no-gas-transportation-standstill-independent-reports-pics-video-2449806.html
A recent study noted that the majority of people have enough food in their pantries to feed their household for about three days and that seemingly stable societies are really just nine meals from anarchy. With most of us dependent on just-in-time transportation systems to always be available, few ever consider the worst case scenario.
For tens of thousands of east coast residents that worst case scenario is now playing out in real-time. No longer are images of starving people waiting for government handouts restricted to just the third-world.
In the midst of crisis, once civilized societies will very rapidly descend into chaos when essential infrastructure systems collapse.
Though the National Guard was deployed before the storm even hit, there is simply no way for the government to coordinate a response requiring millions of servings of food, water and medical supplies
Many east coast residents who failed to evacuate or prepare reserve supplies ahead of the storm are being forced to fend for themselves.
Frustration and anger have taken hold, as residents have no means of acquiring food or gas and thousands of trucks across the region remain stuck in limbo.
Limited electricity has made it possible for some to share their experiences:
Via Twitter:
I was in chaos tonite tryin to get groceries…lines for shuttle buses, only to get to the no food left & closing early (link)
I’m not sure what has shocked me more, all the communities around me destroyed, or the 5 hour lines for gas and food. (link)
Haven’t slept or ate well in a few days. Hope things start getting better around here soon (link)
These days a lot of people are impatient because they’re used to fast things. Fast food, fast internet, fast lines and fast shipping etc. (link)
Glad Obama is off to Vegas after his 90 minute visit. Gas lines are miles long.. Running out of food and water. Great Job (link)
Went to the Grocery store and lines were crazy but nail salon was empty so I’ve got a new gel manicure and some Korean junk food (link)
So f*cking devastated right now. Smell burning houses. People fighting for food. Pitch darkness. I may spend the night in rockaway to help (link)
A simple 72 hour survival kit and some basic hurricane preparedness would have prevented days of heartache for residents of stricken areas.
The vast majority of those waiting in mile-long long food lines, rummaging through the trash, and criticizing their government officials for a slow and insufficient response have no one to blame but themselves.
This may be harsh – but it’s true.
We wish all those having a difficult time dealing with the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy the best going forward. Perhaps it will be a wake-up call for the rest of the nation.
Hurricane Sandy, while disastrous, is not nearly as bad as it could have been.
It has happened before. It will happen again. Prepare or suffer the consequences.
Hatha Sunahara
3rd November 2012, 10:49 AM
I think this is why DHS is buying billions of bullets. Hungry people do not respond well to polite requests to stop rioting. It's also why if you think you're prepared, you better buy your own ammunition and the means for delivering it to protect your stash. Also good reason not to advertise that you have a stash.
Hatha
gunDriller
3rd November 2012, 01:27 PM
oh man, my chickens would be in Heaven. they'd get diabetes, all that sugar. all those deli's throwing out that Haagen Dazs ice cream.
i saw one article that claimed authoritatively that "rats won't be a problem".
???
food sitting in bags on the sidewalk - it won't just be the rats eating it, it'll be the squirrels, too, helping to open up the bags.
then once the bags are open, the pigeons and crows join the feast.
i think it will turn out to be pretty epic.
Twisted Titan
3rd November 2012, 02:01 PM
oh man, my chickens would be in Heaven. they'd get diabetes, all that sugar. all those deli's throwing out that Haagen Dazs ice cream.
i saw one article that claimed authoritatively that "rats won't be a problem".
???
food sitting in bags on the sidewalk - it won't just be the rats eating it, it'll be the squirrels, too, helping to open up the bags.
then once the bags are open, the pigeons and crows join the feast.
i think it will turn out to be pretty epic.
4 legged rats arent the problem.....it will be the 2 legged ones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4CXTKe6y3s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Ponce
3rd November 2012, 02:09 PM
Don't let that pig of my dog read this or he will be taking off for NY......stupid fat sob.
k-os
3rd November 2012, 03:00 PM
4 legged rats arent the problem.....it will be the 2 legged ones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4CXTKe6y3s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
One of the top comments from that video:
Liberals always make fun of conservatives for being self reliant and storing food and water and gas in case this type of situation happens....Well here is what happens when you depend on government.
Shami-Amourae
3rd November 2012, 03:08 PM
From a fellow Gold/Silver person on the ground:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqCJOb8JNcU
Prepping definitely makes a difference. The one thing I'm learning from seeing all of this is how vital a good store of gasoline is. I'm definitely increasing my supply now.
zap
3rd November 2012, 06:53 PM
How long before this hurricane hit did people know it was coming ?? I am in Ca. and I knew about it at least 5 days before it hit, What the hell did these people think was going to happen?
So you know it is coming........and you don't prepare for it at all?? why didn't they prepare just a little????
WTH
Sparky
3rd November 2012, 07:20 PM
How long before this hurricane hit did people know it was coming ?? I am in Ca. and I knew about it at least 5 days before it hit, What the hell did these people think was going to happen?
So you know it is coming........and you don't prepare for it at all?? why didn't they prepare just a little????
WTH
Five days is about right, zap. By the Wednesday before, there was much talk about it.
So I know what you mean about people's failure to prep. The two specific things I did to prep were to pick up additional gasoline and propane, and in both cases, I came across others around me who were doing the same thing. No sense of panic, just very matter-of-factly.
There was a regional "lesson learned" around these parts during the great southern New England blizzard of 1978. 3 to 4 feet of snow fell in Eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island. People had to abandon their cars on the highway and walk to hotels. Roads were closed for 4 days, so food distribution was interrupted. Ever since then, people's ears perk up at any word of a big storm. Maybe it was like that before then, but maybe I was too young to notice. I'm wondering if New Yorkers and New Jerseyites are going to adopt this trait. (Did the people of New Orleans learn anything?)
So there's a windy Nor'easter (rain) threatening New York and New England for Wednesday. I wonder if we'll read stories about "new preppers"?
Ponce
3rd November 2012, 08:06 PM
You should be ready at all time and not only when they tell you that something is going to happen.....I don't think that an eaarthquake will tell you that is going to happen in five days.......
MNeagle
3rd November 2012, 08:24 PM
You should be ready at all time and not only when they tell you that something is going to happen.....I don't think that an eaarthquake will tell you that is going to happen in five days.......
or do they?
November 3, 2012 - 7:20p EDT
Signals remain static with no change across the United States.
We have a developing long wave in the Southern United States as well as the continued longwaves in the California and Northeast USA zones.
http://www.haarpstatus.com/haarpstatus/haarpstatusmap.jpg
Wavelengths -
Shortwaves indicate near events, a high short spike usually means a short term major event is about to happen in that area.
Longwaves and steady increases usually mean a large scale change is developing in the area that will effect a large area's upper level jet stream.
M1 - M2 - Slight change is expected, but overall the weather pattern is not being affected.
M3 - M5 - Change is expected and the reading indicates between then and and a few days it will happen. This is considered a moderate reading, which if a short spike can be a nearby event such as severe weather, unexpected lightning, or a tornado.
M6 - M9 - Significant change is expected. Anything over M7 is rare and special attention must be directed when readings go seven and higher. Severe storms are associated with this reading, which if a short spike can be a nearby event and a long duration and slow build being a large scale change.
M10 - Associated with tornado outbreaks. This also can be strong hurricanes and blizzards.
http://www.haarpstatus.com/status.html
zap
3rd November 2012, 08:27 PM
LOL Ponce, you are correct.
Mostly I was talking about city folks who may be renting a apt or a house, and they knew the storm was coming.
Sparky
3rd November 2012, 08:44 PM
You should be ready at all time and not only when they tell you that something is going to happen.....I don't think that an eaarthquake will tell you that is going to happen in five days.......
Definitely true Ponce. I think zap's point was that there were so many unprepared people even with five days warning!
I guess my sympathies lay with those were were prepared but were completely overwhelmed. I think of mamboni's neighbor who had a tree fall on his generator. Ugh. Or if you had a bunch of preps, and they got washed away by the flood. In your case Ponce, imagine if you were ready for the earthquake, and it swallowed your house while you were in the back yard!
k-os
4th November 2012, 06:23 AM
How long before this hurricane hit did people know it was coming ?? I am in Ca. and I knew about it at least 5 days before it hit, What the hell did these people think was going to happen?
So you know it is coming........and you don't prepare for it at all?? why didn't they prepare just a little????
WTH
Hey zap, I don't know if the same applies for the Northeast, but down here, we get so many hurricane warnings, that it's like the boy who cried wolf. I am not trying to give anyone an excuse for not having basic water, food, sanitation and fuel preparations, but it could be part of the problem.
Horn
4th November 2012, 07:25 AM
It may have been out there for a couple days , but it turned very rapidly and proceeded inland.
I know if I were still living there I probably would have stayed on the beach.
zap
4th November 2012, 08:36 AM
Quote : but down here, we get so many hurricane warnings, that it's like the boy who cried wolf.
Yes I can understand how people could dismiss the warnings, but doing easy stuff like keeping your gas tank full, stocking up on a few extra food items/ gal. of water each grocery trip.
I don't know, just common sense I guess, which is funny cause I know alot of people with No common sense.:)
TheNocturnalEgyptian
4th November 2012, 09:26 AM
When I met my current girlfriend, she was afraid I would think she was weird for having pounds of barley, lentils, beans in her kitchen. One day I explained the philosophy of prepping to her, and her response was, "Are you sure we need to prep? We have about 3 months of food simply because I don't know how to clean my pantry =)"
The water to cook the lentils and the necessity of a heating element is what I showed her. But she already had a great head start.
And she's a better rifle shot than I am for some weird reason :confused: (I'm more of a martial arts guy)
Sparky
4th November 2012, 04:39 PM
Quote : but down here, we get so many hurricane warnings, that it's like the boy who cried wolf.
Yes I can understand how people could dismiss the warnings, but doing easy stuff like keeping your gas tank full, stocking up on a few extra food items/ gal. of water each grocery trip.
I don't know, just common sense I guess, which is funny cause I know alot of people with No common sense.:)
Hurricane warnings in the NE are rare enough that they don't get ignored. Five days out people might not take action, but they pay attention. If it continues for a couple more days, they take action. I mentioned earlier that my propane distributor had a non-stop day on Saturday, and we're well past the summer gas grill season here, so it was mostly storm prep. And there were lots of gas cans sighted at gas stations. And we weren't really in the main line of the storm the way NJ was.
steel_ag
8th November 2012, 07:54 PM
Source: http://bible.cc/proverbs/30-25.htm
<< Proverbs 30:25 >>
New International Version (©1984)
Ants are creatures of little strength, yet they store up their food in the summer;
New Living Translation (©2007)
Ants--they aren't strong, but they store up food all summer.
English Standard Version (©2001)
the ants are a people not strong, yet they provide their food in the summer;
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
The ants are not a strong people, But they prepare their food in the summer;
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer;
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Ants that have no power in them and from the harvest they prepare their bread,
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Ants are not a strong species, yet they store their food in summer.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their food in the summer;
American King James Version
The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer;
American Standard Version
The ants are a people not strong, Yet they provide their food in the summer;
Douay-Rheims Bible
The ants, a feeble people, which provide themselves food in the harvest:
Darby Bible Translation
The ants, a people not strong, yet they provide their food in the summer;
English Revised Version
The ants are a people not strong, yet they provide their meat in the summer;
Webster's Bible Translation
The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their food in the summer;
World English Bible
the ants are not a strong people, yet they provide their food in the summer.
Young's Literal Translation
The ants are a people not strong, And they prepare in summer their food,
Barnes' Notes on the Bible
See the marginal reference note. Note the word "people" applied here to ants, as to locusts in Joel 1:6. The marvel lies in their collective, and, as it were, organized action.
Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
The ants are a people not strong,.... Far from it; what is weaker than an ant? a multitude of them may be destroyed at once, with the crush of a foot. Pliny calls it "minimum animal", the least animal; and the Arabians use it as a proverb, to call a weak man one weaker than an ant: and there is one sort of ants called "dsar", so small that one hundred of them will not weigh more than a barley corn (g): they are called a people, because they associate together in great numbers; though small in bulk, and weak as to power and strength; and which is a figure elsewhere used in the sacred Scriptures; see Joel 1:6; and by profane writers, as Homer and Virgil, who speak of bees as a people and nation (h); and of nations of flies, and of flying birds, geese, cranes, and swans (i);
yet their prepare their meat in the summer; build granaries with great art and wisdom, carry in grains of corn with great labour and industry, in the summer season, when only to be got, and lay them up against winter. Phocylides (k) the poet says much the same things of them; he calls them a tribe or nation, small but laborious, and says, they gather and carry in their food in summer for the winter, which is a proof of their wisdom. Cicero (l) says, the ant has not only sense, but mind, reason, and memory. Aelianus (m) ascribes unspeakable wisdom to it; and Pliny (n) discourse and conversation; See Gill on Proverbs 6:6; see Gill on Proverbs 6:7; See Gill on Proverbs 6:8. It is a pattern of industry and diligence both as to temporal and spiritual things, Ecclesiastes 9:10.
(g) Bochart. Hierozoic. par. 2. l. 4. c. 22. col. 598. (h) Iliad. 2. v. 87. "Et populos et proelia dicam", Georgic. l. 4. v. 4, 5. (i) Iliad. 2. v. 459, 469. & 15. v. 690, 691. (k) Poem. Admon. v. 158, 159. (l) De Natura Deorum, l. 3.((m) De Animal. l. 16. c. 15. (n) Nat. Hist. l. 11. c. 30.
Geneva Study Bible
The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer;
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
30:24-28. Four things that are little, are yet to be admired. There are those who are poor in the world, and of small account, yet wise for their souls and another world. 29-33. We may learn from animals to go well; also to keep our temper under all provocations. We must keep the evil thought in our minds from breaking out into evil speeches. We must not stir up the passions of others. Let nothing be said or done with violence, but every thing with softness and calmness. Alas, how often have we done foolishly in rising up against the Lord our King! Let us humble ourselves before him. And having found peace with Him, let us follow peace with all men.
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