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gunDriller
11th November 2012, 03:46 PM
In the movie "Prometheus", the plot follows this line - a humanoid race (large size, bigger than Shaq, and white) comes to Earth, and recognized as 'Gods' by early Earthlings. The implication is that they bring humanoid DNA to Planet Earth.

In Luke, Mary is visited by Angels, and told to expect a baby conceived outside of 'conventional means'. Sort of like "the Holy Spirit will come upon you, you're going to become pregnant, and it's a REALLY special baby."

? #1

Is it implied by the Luke section in the Bible (below) that Mary received an implanted embryo, or sperm, leading to the birth of the Baby Jesus ?

It seems to be implied, but I am no Biblical scholar, nor do I want to offend any G-S.us'ers who are (way) more schooled on the Bible than I.


There is also an interesting detail about the Jewish & Chinese calendars. The Jewish calendar starts about 5700 years ago. The Chinese calendar starts (maybe) about 4600 years ago. Why do these calendars start when they start ?


There is also a statistical detail about the Jewish & Chinese cultures - they are the demographic groups which score most highly on standardized math tests - by a considerable margin. Which obviously has a strong cultural component ("Nurture", not necessarily Nature - pressure to score high on tests produces motivated children.)

This background fact was reinforced recently by an anecdote from the gym. Some guy I was talking to about his Berkeley education. He said that he tried to schedule his math & technology classes with fewer Chinese & Jewish classmates because, in his day (1950's Berkeley), he said - it was just plain harder to get an "A" when he had a lot of Chinese & Jewish classmates in those classes.


?#2:
Are these calendar start dates and possibly racial aptitudes for math possible indicators of an external involvement in the Chinese & Jewish cultures ? Or just coincidences & the result of cultural pressure to perform ?


?#3:

re. the movie Prometheus - side-stepping the "Part 2" of that movie. Part 1 being, the Big Tall Humanoid Extraterrestrials are worshipped by earthly humans. Later in the movie, it is found that their DNA is identical with human DNA (which doesn't explain why they are 8 feet tall, but, anyway).

Part 2 is, after the Big Tall Humanoid Extraterrestrials first visit Earth to start the human race, they have set in place a basically military program to send Alien-like creatures back to Earth, to feast on the earthlings. It makes for an interesting plot to the movie, but obviously there are "acid for blood" chest-bursting nasty guys running around, as depicted in the movies Alien 1, 2, 3, and 4.


Sci-fi Note ~
In any case I thought they did a really good job with the prequel to the Alien series. They explain how the Aliens came to be (genetic engineering), and depict a plan to send a ship full of Alien DNA & embryo's back to Earth, after human beings have learned to travel the Cosmos.

Why the Big Tall Humanoid Extraterrestrials would want to kill the race they started (in the movie) is never explained, although one guess is that it is a form of self-defense - the Big Tall Humanoid Extraterrestrials don't want to be surpassed by one of their biology experiments.


My apologies if this inter-weaving of religion, sci-fi, and sociology offends anyone. I just notice some overlap between these 3 areas of thought that I think may indicate something real.


Luke 1:26-38

In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, to a virgin pledged to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary. The angel went to her and said, "Greetings, you who are highly favored !! The Lord is with you." Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, his kingdom will never end."

"How will this be, "Mary asked the angel, "since I am a virgin ??" The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be barren is in her sixth month. For nothing is impossible with God." "I am the Lord's servant," Mary answered. "May it be to me as you have said." Then the angel left her.

StreetsOfGold
11th November 2012, 07:39 PM
What was of particular interest that no one caught was that the man was a PERFECT speciman of a man (Like Adam would have been) and he was "snow white"
Seeing that those who know their Bible KNOW that it was a grape that Adam and Eve ate and it turned their SNOW WHITE complexion to a REDdish brown. The "inspiration" of that movie KNOWS the Bible, that puts only a few possibilities.

It was a Bible believer (highly undoubtful)
God (no chance)
or a devil - Bingo!

7th trump
11th November 2012, 07:59 PM
What was of particular interest that no one caught was that the man was a PERFECT speciman of a man (Like Adam would have been) and he was "snow white"
Seeing that those who know their Bible KNOW that it was a grape that Adam and Eve ate and it turned their SNOW WHITE complexion to a REDdish brown. The "inspiration" of that movie KNOWS the Bible, that puts only a few possibilities.

It was a Bible believer (highly undoubtful)
God (no chance)
or a devil - Bingo!
Where did adam and eve eat a grape?

Horn
11th November 2012, 08:13 PM
Chinese were taught logical math for many generations, (as opposed to our illogical method) & the 50's in Berkley you'd be getting creme of the races there. Jews of course being from accountant families would have long history in numbers.

I think, there are transfer traits.

When each of my 3 children were conceived there were some traits of the emotions/situation that were being carried over from me/we at the time. Or at least that's how I see'em.

Katmandu
11th November 2012, 08:24 PM
The Jewish calendar starts about 5700 years ago. The Chinese calendar starts (maybe) about 4600 years ago. Why do these calendars start when they start ?

Some interpretations of Biblical timeline put Adam and Eve at ~6000 years ago. That is close to the current Jewish calendar at 5773 years.

Horn
17th August 2013, 10:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WBh-WYS-iE

25 min in it gets worthwhile.