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Serpo
23rd November 2012, 09:38 PM
No US sailor saw Bin Laden’s alleged burial
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More than a year after Navy SEALs supposedly killed former CIA asset Osama bin Laden, a FOIA by the Associated Press has produced emails revealing that no American sailors aboard the USS Carl Vinton witnessed the terrorist’s burial at sea.

The heavily redacted emails are said to be the first public disclosure of government information about the undocumented assassination.

An email supposedly sent by a Navy officer claims Osama bin Laden was washed, wrapped in a white sheet, and then placed in a weighted bag, according to the Daily Mail. Another email allegedly sent by Vinson’s public affairs officer claims only a small group of the ship’s leadership was informed of the burial.

“A military officer read prepared religious remarks, which were translated into Arabic by a native speaker. After the words were complete, the body was placed on a prepared flat board, tipped up, whereupon the deceased’s body slid into the sea,” Adm. Charles Gaouette said in the email.

Recipients of the email included Adm. Mike Mullen, then chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Gen. James Mattis, top officer at U.S. Central Command.

The Defense Department previously said it did not have any photographs or video to support its claim the SEALs killed the al-Qaeda leader. It also admitted there were no images taken of Bin Laden’s body on the Vinton.

The Pentagon does not have a death certificate, autopsy report or results of DNA identification tests for bin Laden, or any pre-raid materials discussing how the government planned to dispose of bin Laden’s body if he were killed, the Daily Mail reports.

In May, 2011, the Obama administration mulled releasing photographs purportedly showing the body of Bin Laden with “a massive head wound above his left eye where he took bullet (sic), with brains and blood visible.” No such photos were ever produced.

“We are going to do everything we can to make sure that nobody has any basis to try to deny that we got Osama bin Laden,” John Brennan, Obama’s counterterrorism adviser, said following the alleged assassination. Brennan said the government will “share what we can because we want to make sure that not only the American people but the world understand exactly what happened.”

Despite a complete lack of evidence, the government and the corporate media now routinely insist Obama ordered the military to kill Osama bin Laden at a compound in Pakistan.

Former State Department official Steve Pieczenik told Alex Jones last May that the staged assassination was nothing more than “American theater of the absurd” and a photo supposedly showing members of the Obama administration watching a live video feed of the assassination was fabricated.

Pieczenik and others, including members of the FBI and Israeli intelligence, believe Osama died in late 2001, soon after the United States military invaded Afghanistan. On December 26, 2001, a leading Pakistani newspaper published a story reporting that bin Laden had died in mid-December and Taliban officials had attended the funeral. President Musharraf of Pakistan and president Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan also publicly stated in 2002 they believe Osama bin Laden died in 2001. infowars.com

http://presstv.com/usdetail/273986.html

PatColo
23rd November 2012, 09:52 PM
was Pieczenik the one who was on AJ's show in the past year sometime, & started talking about dajooz, and AJ fumbled around awkwardly in response? There was a thread here about it, had the YT clip of the interview.

Easier to read the following at the source; few YT vids in there too: http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news389_seals.html




Navy Seals Silenced About Bin Laden





August 6, 2011
All of the Unit 6 Navy Seals who could have exposed their Bin Laden raid in Pakistan as a "CHARADE" have been silenced - permanently.
A military helicopter was shot down in eastern Afghanistan killing more than 20 elite special operations Navy SEALs from SEAL Team Six. This was the same unit that "allegedly" killed Osama Bin Laden during a raid in Pakistan i n May.
The SEALS WHO KNEW TOO MUCH were being flown by a crew of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment when they were shot down with rocket fire and killed.





The Navy SEALs never confirmed any involvement in the raid, but their chief, Rear Adm. Edward Winters of the Naval Special Warfare Command in California, sent an email congratulating his forces and cautioning them to keep their mouths shut.
News reports surfaced that the SEALs who faked the raid feared for their lives...and it wasn't Al Qaeda they feared. It was the CIA. If their identifies became known in the public sphere, the faked drama would have unravelled like threads on a cheap suit. The SEALs knew their fate "collectively" if any one of them broke their code of silence.





SILENCING THOSE WHO KNEW TOO MUCH
Before her assassination in 2007, Benazir Bhutto publicly identified Omar Sheikh as the man who murdered Osama Bin Laden. She served twice as Prime Minister of Pakistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Pakistan) and was campaigning as leader of Pakistan's opposition party when she was gunned down and killed. Benazir Bhutto knew too much...and so did the Navy Seals who faked the raid, faked the capture and faked the killing of Osama Bin Laden.




Here is a statement by U.S. Sergeant Major Eric Haney during a CNN interview when asked about the whereabouts of Osama Bin Laden. "I believe he's dead. I'm 98% positive that we killed him in December of 2001 during the Tora Bora War campaign. I've seen no proof of life since then regardless of these tapes that are cobbled together."


Former Marine Colonel Bob Pappas has been saying for years that Bin Laden died at Tora Bora and that Senator Kerry's claim that Bin Laden escaped was a lie.


Here is another report in the NY Times (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9405EFDE1230F932A25754C0A9649C8B 63) by AMIR TAHERI published on July 11, 2002. "Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan's president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama's gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama's ghost alive or because they have no means of communication."

In December, 2001, FOX News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html) reported, "Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader. The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said. Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.
(http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030513/world.htm#1)
A French expert claims Osama bin Laden died after being maimed in an American air raid on the Tora Bora mountains of Afghanistan in December, 2001, a Pakistani newspaper says. Bin Laden died in US air raid: French expert (http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030513/world.htm#1).


A poll on the aftermath of Osama bin Laden’s death, by Gallup in Pakistan, was conducted between May 7th and 10th in towns and rural areas, among a decent-sized sample of 2,530 people of various linguistic, educational and class backgrounds. The interviews were done in person, not over the phone, which means it reached a wide range of people. Nearly half of Pakistani's (49%) thought that the whole incident was staged.


http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news315_binladen.html
http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news318_killer.html (http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news317_killer.html)

http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news325_widows.html

joboo
23rd November 2012, 09:57 PM
- Saddam paraded in the media after capture/assassination. Check.
- Uday, and Qusay paraded in the media after capture/assassination. Check.
- Qaddafi paraded in the media after capture/assassination. Check.
- Kalid Sheik Mohammed paraded in the media after capture/assassination. Check.
- Every other terrrrist bad guy, and their pet dog, paraded in the media after capture/assassination. Check.

The most epic, super grand daddy, " holy shit stop the presses" scandalous one of them all....

Poof. Vanished.

Neuro
24th November 2012, 01:18 AM
No one could have seen it because it didn't happen!

midnight rambler
24th November 2012, 02:01 AM
- Saddam paraded in the media after capture/assassination. Check.
- Uday, and Qusay paraded in the media after capture/assassination. Check.
- Qaddafi paraded in the media after capture/assassination. Check.
- Kalid Sheik Mohammed paraded in the media after capture/assassination. Check.
- Every other terrrrist bad guy, and their pet dog, paraded in the media after capture/assassination. Check.

The most epic, super grand daddy, " holy shit stop the presses" scandalous one of them all....

Poof. Vanished.

Couple of questions for ya: Exactly how does a phantom vanish? How could anyone possibly know that a phantom has vanished?

Serpo
24th November 2012, 02:34 AM
No one could have seen it because it didn't happen!

It was dark ....maybe........

joboo
24th November 2012, 02:44 AM
Everyone present was blinded by tears of joy.

If a Bin Laden falls in the ocean, and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a splash?

Neuro
24th November 2012, 07:47 AM
Everyone present was blinded by tears of joy.

If a Bin Laden falls in the ocean, and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a splash?
Definitively YES! Two negatives makes a positive! But nobody would have heard it if somebody was there... Now we just need to figure out where 'there' is?

mamboni
24th November 2012, 11:11 AM
No one could have seen it because it didn't happen!

Yeah, like Obama's US Birth Certificate. And 99% of the man on the street if asked will insist that "Osama was killed by Obama." Who needs photographs, video, witnesses and sworn affidavits - we got the WH Press Secretary and the NY Times saying it happened!

This country is so royally fucked. The American people are fatted cattle - all that remains is the entre into the slaughter houses.

PatColo
25th November 2012, 09:38 PM
Demise of Bin Laden: a delusional tale (http://truthjihad.com/news/?p=197) Posted on November 26, 2012 (http://truthjihad.com/news/?p=197) by kbarrett

(http://truthjihad.com/news/?author=2)

“We, uh, threw him in the ocean when nobody was looking…because….because….well, it’s an Islamic custom!”
http://truthjihad.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/osama-death-fake1-300x168.jpg (http://truthjihad.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/osama-death-fake1.jpg)This fake "dead Bin Laden" image was spammed all over the world by the psy-oppers who orchestrated the "death of Bin Laden" hoax.



By Kevin Barrett, for Press TV

(http://presstv.com/detail/2012/11/25/274379/demise-of-bin-laden-delusional-tale/)

The “we killed Osama bin Laden, really we did” story is getting more and more bizarre.


On May 2nd, 2011, just hours after the news of the alleged Bin Laden killing was reported, I published a piece that has since gone viral and become something of an underground classic:


“Death of Bin Laden”: A Spectral Human Sacrifice

(http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2011/05/death-of-bin-laden-specular-human.html)

In that article, I predicted:


“Whatever evidence they produce identifying the ghost or double as ‘Bin Laden’ will probably have the same chain of custody as the Fatty Bin Laden ‘confession video’ (http://www.radiodujour.com/people/lawrence_bruce/)of December 2001 – that is, no chain of custody whatsoever.”


Some of my friends thought I was going out on a limb. Surely, they insisted, the US military hoaxers would take the trouble to manufacture some plausible-looking “evidence” that they had actually killed the world’s biggest bogeyman. After all, billions of people worldwide believed the news reports, published in Pakistan, Egypt, and elsewhere, that Bid Laden died of kidney failure in December, 2001.


I disagreed with my friends. The terror-hoaxers have shown us that they are incapable of manufacturing plausible-looking evidence. Instead, they offer absurd, blatantly-fabricated pseudo-evidence so ridiculous that one suspects they are laughing at the public for believing it.


For example, someone planted a shi’ite bandana next to the empty fifteen-foot hole in Shanksville, Pennsylvania where we were told Flight 93 mysteriously disappeared into the ground on 9/11/2001, leaving no trace except for the aforementioned bandana. One of the many problems with this story: Alleged hijackers of the radical sunni persuasion would be about as likely to wear shi’ite bandanas as to dress up as nuns.


Apparently, to whoever planted that shi’ite bandana, “radical Muslims” all look alike.


You would think the CIA and Mossad would have enough money to hire competent Islamic Studies advisors. Then again, maybe anyone willing to work for those agencies is, by definition, a cretin.


Self-styled Islamic Studies experts who accept the paranoid, delusional 9/11 story, and the idiotic “war on terror” narrative it spawned, are indeed cretins, vermin, genocidal scumbags. One of them, who pretends to speak Arabic, actually had to hire my wife and me to translate Bin Laden speeches for him. That phony, and dozens of others like him, infest the American academy like an army of cockroaches.


Another ridiculous bit of planted 9/11 evidence was the alleged last will and testament of Mohammed Atta. According to the official story, Atta packed his will in a suitcase he expected to be destroyed in Flight 11′s impact into the North Tower. Nice place for a will! Miraculously, Atta’s suitcase failed to make the transfer from a commuter plane to Flight 11, so it was conveniently “discovered” as “evidence” for the 19-hijackers legend.


Atta’s alleged will begins: “In the name of God, myself, and my family…” As top British Mideast journalist Robert Fisk has pointed out, no Muslim would ever pen such an absurd and blasphemous parody of the bismillah. Atta’s supposed will is not just a forgery, not just a bad forgery – it is a truly awful forgery, a counterfeit far less credible than a child’s scribbled imitation of a dollar bill.


And the rest of the “evidence” supporting the official myth of 9/11 is equally preposterous. Likewise with the “evidence” for other atrocities and terror plots attributed to al-CIA-duh.


That’s why I predicted that whatever “evidence” was produced to support the Bin Laden killing story would be weaker than a rubber crutch.


But even I, jaded conspiracy realist that I am, could never have imagined that they would not even bother to fabricate any purported evidence at all!


So even I am dumbfounded by the London Daily Mail story (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2236617/Revealed-Military-emails-NO-U-S-sailors-witnessed-Osama-bin-Ladens-secret-burial-sea.html):
Revealed: Military emails show that NO U.S. sailors witnessed Osama bin Laden’s secret burial at sea

Emails describe how Osama bin Laden’s body was washed, wrapped in a white sheet and slid into the sea after religious remarks in Arabic

Defense Department says it cannot find any images or videos of bin Laden’s aboard USS Carl Vinson

Pentagon failed to produce autopsy report, death certificate or results of DNA tests




It’s beyond unbelievable.


No photos. No videos. No autopsy. No death certificate. No DNA tests.


And yet they want us to believe that they threw Osama’s body into the ocean, when NOBODY was looking, “in accordance with Islamic custom.”


Since when is it an Islamic custom to throw bodies into the ocean?


It’s Islamically blasphemous – just as blasphemous as the botched bismillah in Mohammed Atta’s supposed will.


No Muslim would EVER throw a fellow Muslim’s body in the ocean, except perhaps in the direst of imaginable emergencies.


They might as well tell us that Osama’s body was devoured in its entirety by a purple plesiosaur from outer space.


So if any media outlet ever reports or mentions the bizarre, delusional tale of the demise of Osama Bin Laden as if it were fact, or even remotely plausible, you can be sure that that media outlet thinks its audience consists of complete idiots.

Glass
25th November 2012, 10:06 PM
Now we just need to figure out where 'there' is?

But possibly only after we know what the definition of is, is.

Neuro
26th November 2012, 05:40 AM
But possibly only after we know what the definition of is, is.
The Bin Laden paradox is a truly mind boggling exercise.