You have to see this - FedEx almost collides with Chemtrailing KC-135

[General of Darkness]

This is why the FAA is supposed to alert local Air Traffic Control when Chemtrailers will be flying their skies. So that commercial air traffic will be diverted.

These chemtrail jets were flying at commercial air flight level with NO TRANSPONDERS!

Not only do they NOT alert Air Traffic Control, the planes don't even show up on radar!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78rKNoR4T0w&sns=em

[chad]

that's pretty damning evidence.

[joboo]

Very convincing video. I wonder what the de-bunkers are going to say about this one?

[mick silver]

dam . ever day i watch this shit , when will the people of this country look up then maybe wake the fvck up about the shit there doing to us all

[mamboni]

I have absolutely no doubt about Chemtrails. I've watched them spray a perfect grid high in the sky. Then I watched each chemtrail widen and expand into an elongate cloud over a 20-30 minute period. The clouds never dissipated.

These masters of the universe are screwing around with forces they do not fully understand. This Chemtrail experiment is going to have unintended consequences and cause the deaths of millions.

[PlatinumBlonde]

I have observed chemtrails for years and whenever there is rain in the forecast they spray and thus no rain occurs. It think spraying creates drought..

[joboo]

The biggest counter argument is "they" breathe the air as well.

I still for the life of me can't figure this one out, and I've personally seen, and video taped ones that defy logic, like shutting off and on again, and ones that go on forever across the sky at low altitudes on a clear blue (dry) sky that spread out for hours.

wtf..

[midnight rambler]

I have observed chemtrails for years and whenever there is rain in the forecast they spray and thus no rain occurs. I think spraying creates drought..

So do a lot of other folks. It's kinda obvious.

[MNeagle]

http://www.chemtrailforecast.com/main.html

I think they may have stopped giving weekend forecasts, but here's yesterday's look:


http://www.chemtrailforecast.com/chemimages/evening.jpg

[Horn]

Whatever its for, it must be super important to them.

They're still doing it while approaching "The Fiscal Cliff"!

How much you think one flight costs?

[Ponce]

There is now 14% less birth for Americans and 24% for latinos......why?, anything to do with this?.....and how about the Zionist? what % is their birth rate?

First creepy post of the day.............good morning to one and all.

[Cebu_4_2]

Whatever its for, it must be super important to them.

They're still doing it while approaching "The Fiscal Cliff"!

How much you think one flight costs?

Flights are paid for, remember the missing trillions a few years back? I do believe that these are unmanned flights but monitored by new 'recruits' from a remote location. Kind of like a video arcade.

[hoarder]

These masters of the universe are screwing around with forces they do not fully understand. This Chemtrail experiment is going to have unintended consequences and cause the deaths of millions.What makes you think they don't understand? what makes you think the consequences will not be as intended? Just asking.

[StreetsOfGold]

dam . ever day i watch this shit , when will the people of this country look up then maybe wake the fvck up about the shit there doing to us all

What I like to know is when are some of you going to wake up and realize that the Anti-Christ system is almost in place and Jesus Christ is set to come back AFTER the Anti Christ takes over.

There's nothing you can do about this. I hate it as much as anyone else but the system is setup so that no one and nothing can stop it.

God is going to wipe them all out and that's that! It's part of his judgement and if you think you're angry about stuff like this (who with any sense isn't?) that men are destroying each other, just wait, God will show everyone how it's done and when he does it, it IS justified!


Zephaniah 3:8 Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.

[mamboni]

What makes you think they don't understand? what makes you think the consequences will not be as intended? Just asking.

Yeah, this alternative view did cross my mind.

[steyr_m]

The clouds never dissipated.


You're saying they are still there?

I work in the aviation industry, and I'm suspect of the chem-trail theory. I'm telling you, nothing goes into that airplane unless it has a "certificate of conformance", in other words, there is someone approving it and there is a paperwork trail.

1. There is no "civilian altitude". One must meet requirements to fly at a certain altitude -- and that's it.

2. All military aircraft can disable transponders -- there could have been a goof at ATC [and it happens all the time]. How do we actually know they were disabled?

3. Everything else looked like normal contrail activity.

[General of Darkness]

So do a lot of other folks. It's kinda obvious.

When I was driving to training today, there was suppose to be mass amounts of rain today. And what did I see in the breaks in the clouds? TONS of chemtails.

[midnight rambler]

3. Everything else looked like normal contrail activity.

Prior to the mid-90s there was NEVER any contrails which lasted for more than a few minutes, they ALWAYS fully dissipated. Since the mid-90s there have been these very persistent 'contrails' which ALWAYS morph into wispy clouds which last all day. While there are now these very persistent 'contrails' we can still see the very short-lived contrails just like what we've always seen prior to the mid-90s at the very same time, virtually side by side for comparison sake. There's no denying that everyone who's paying attention can clearly see there are two very distinctive contrail patterns, one very persistent and one which dissipates completely within a few minutes.

So exactly *what* are you calling 'normal'?? ???

[milehi]

I come from a very outdoorsy family. Beach trips; camping in the desert and the Sierra, and chemtrails dont show up in the family photo albums until '93.

I've also seen trails start and stop, like a tank change, which seals the deal for me.

[Cebu_4_2]

I think the stopping and starting is they have sensors that detect a prior spray. When I watched these and they spray into a trail it stopped and when the sky wasn't sprayed it would start again.

[MNeagle]

Here's where they 'normalize' the chems into ads & cartoons:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKkVVYYDXyU&feature=player_detailpage

[Horn]

Prior to the mid-90s there was NEVER any contrails which lasted for more than a few minutes, they ALWAYS fully dissipated. Since the mid-90s there have been these very persistent 'contrails' which ALWAYS morph into wispy clouds which last all day.

One has to ask how old steyr_m is, he simply might not remember a sky without them.

Contrails from what i knew formed off the wing tips and nose of the aircraft, not water vapor in its exhaust.

The sheer amount of the vapor itself spewing from the exhaust in these videos would suggest that the plane is powered by steam...

I never see these things trailing me on a commercial passenger flight.

Wiki has a cloud group named after them... I never heard of before the year 2000/

Cirrus aviaticus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrail

Ps. there are none in Costa Rica...

[hoarder]

When I was driving to training today, there was suppose to be mass amounts of rain today. And what did I see in the breaks in the clouds? TONS of chemtails.The same tribe that does the spraying provides the chemtrails. Maybe they're getting sloppy.

[MNeagle]

The same tribe that does the spraying provides the chemtrails. Maybe they're getting sloppy.

nah, just blatant.

[steyr_m]

Prior to the mid-90s there was NEVER any contrails which lasted for more than a few minutes, they ALWAYS fully dissipated. So exactly *what* are you calling 'normal'?? ???

Since the time period you spoke of, airliners have been allowed to fly higher altitudes than before. This is an economic advantage. The higher you fly, the less fuel you burn. The winds at that altitude are different than at ground level.

[steyr_m]

One has to ask how old steyr_m is, he simply might not remember a sky without them.I'll be 45 in Feb

[Horn]

I think the stopping and starting is they have sensors that detect a prior spray. When I watched these and they spray into a trail it stopped and when the sky wasn't sprayed it would start again.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL_nkKFXCGE

They do loop back and forth over major metropolitan areas.

Back & forth, back and forth...

I see nothing on my international flights to and from U.S.

[MNeagle]

Since the time period you spoke of, airliners have been allowed to fly higher altitudes than before. This is an economic advantage. The higher you fly, the less fuel you burn. The winds at that altitude are different than at ground level.

The WINDS may be different, but I don't believe GRAVITY is different!


Did you miss this?

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63259-quot-Why-in-the-World-are-They-Spraying&highlight=world+spraying%3F

[Cebu_4_2]

http://duckduckgo.com/?q=stratospheric+aerosol+geoengineering

[old steel]

isn't there a minimum distance allowed between jet aircraft or any aircraft flying in the skies?

Reason i'm asking is i've watched jets through my sky master binoculars this past fall during spraying operations that seemed to be on a collision course which is a new pattern i've just recognized.

They pass each other going 180 degrees in the opposite direction and they don't miss by much.

Even seen some intersect with the trail of a jet at 90 degrees and they are very close as well.

They fly right through each others trails depending on the pattern.

Watched some large tankers coming up south from stateside and then make an abrupt turn to the northwest, another new pattern.

I watch them very close and the technology they are using is above what we see in our world.

I'll leave it at that.

[midnight rambler]

Since the time period you spoke of, airliners have been allowed to fly higher altitudes than before. This is an economic advantage. The higher you fly, the less fuel you burn. The winds at that altitude are different than at ground level.

Nonsense. I see aircraft at roughly the same attitudes laying down BOTH the very persistent 'contrails' AND quickly dissipating contrails AT THE SAME TIME.

[midnight rambler]

4137

Right. Indeed. This is 'normal'. lol Yeah, that's a 90 degree turn. (took this photo myself)

Hey Steyr, are you familiar with a concept known as 'compartmentalization'??

[Uncle Salty]

Normal? No fucking way. The planes go back and forth over Los Angeles on some days for hours, starting and stopping. You can actually see them start and then stop the chemtrails, turn around and add another trail. It is so fucking obvious and the lie is so big, most cannot get over this new normalcy bias and see them for what they are.

I used to golf in Orange, Co CA and would see some real weird ones early in the morning, like they were testing out the vaporisers to calibrate them. Lots of starting and stopping with big plumes. Very weird looking patterns. Not normal at all.

Also, you never see them when the planes are flying over the oceans. Just over populated areas.

[woodman]

I have noticed the tic tac toe patterns being layed out even here in rural northern Michigan. I don't know what they are up to but I believe something is going on. Not what I remember from my childhood. I remember as a child in the early sixties, watching contrails and seeing them dissipate. I believe some lasted awhile but nothing like what we are seeing now where they spread out and cloud up the entire sky.

Is it possible they are testing a shield against a weakened ionoshpere? Perhaps they would like to weaken the ionosphere in places for their own nefarious ends and lay down a protective barrier elsewhere? Can harp cause doughnut holes in the ionosphere that would let in killing radiation? Hmmmmmm.....

They are up to something.

[steyr_m]

isn't there a minimum distance allowed between jet aircraft or any aircraft flying in the skies?

Yes there is. I believe a 2km distance is considered a "near-miss". That's why all aircraft that can fly at high altitudes must have an ACAS (airborne collision avoidance system)

Again, all this is not very convincing to me. If they are spaying something, I would want to see an airsample taken at ground level and compared to samples taken at other cities.

[hoarder]

Yes there is. I believe a 2km distance is considered a "near-miss". That's why all aircraft that can fly at high altitudes must have an ACAS (airborne collision avoidance system)

Again, all this is not very convincing to me. If they are spaying something, I would want to see an airsample taken at ground level and compared to samples taken at other cities.What's your explanation of why some contrails last only a few minutes (like they all did 20 years ago) and others last hours?

[Blink]

Yes there is. I believe a 2km distance is considered a "near-miss". That's why all aircraft that can fly at high altitudes must have an ACAS (airborne collision avoidance system)

Again, all this is not very convincing to me. If they are spaying something, I would want to see an airsample taken at ground level and compared to samples taken at other cities.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEfJO0-cTis&feature=player_embedded

The scientists in the video have taken samples, or don't these guys count?

[Cebu_4_2]

What's your explanation of why some contrails last only a few minutes (like they all did 20 years ago) and others last hours?

Stop wasting your time. One thing is to show someone what is happening and another trying to convince a disinfo agent to change his ways.

[Horn]

Stop wasting your time. One thing is to show someone what is happening and another trying to convince a disinfo agent to change his ways.

Leading a bit there, Cebu? There's nothing to suggest that.

Even though the amount of visible "water vapor" in exhaust is way too high.

[joboo]

I never remember seeing anything lingering in the sky other than clouds prior to 2001.

These long worming trails going all across the sky all over the place are pretty hard to miss.

Kind of a spectacle.

[old steel]

Yes there is. I believe a 2km distance is considered a "near-miss". That's why all aircraft that can fly at high altitudes must have an ACAS (airborne collision avoidance system)

Again, all this is not very convincing to me. If they are spaying something, I would want to see an airsample taken at ground level and compared to samples taken at other cities.

Many sample have been taken at ground level where heavy chemtrail spraying has occurred with predictable results of heavy metals showing up in the vegetation.

The information is widely available on the internet if you care to look for it.

[mick silver]

at night is a good time to see them also . here on a good clear night it look like a checker board . dam i have seen them turn an come back and never stop spraying . i have many pics of this . do you guys think they could be using this as a way to talk to each other around the world also . high level talks