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Glass
2nd December 2012, 09:37 PM
Most of us here know the situation regarding the 3 cities. The Vatican City, The District of Columbia, Washington and the City of London.

For those not up to speed. Each of these places are separate country states with their own sovereignty which is distinct from the country in which these states exists.

The City of London is filled with legal firms and business firms of the most "Worshipful" kind.

They recently paraded in London during the inauguration of the new Lord Mayor for the City of London. During this pomp and ceremony effigies for these two idols were paraded along the route.

Can it be any clearer as to what is going on here?


Bankers, Bradburys, Carnage And Slaughter On The Western Front

As I start to write this article, today is Remembrance Sunday and I’m listening live to the sombre but magnificent strains of Elgar’s Nimrod as the parade at The Cenotaph assembles for the nation’s annual act of remembrance to the fallen. Like almost everyone else, I’m always humbled and moved by the veterans’ march-pass to pay their respects to fallen friends and comrades – but this year I will find it particularly poignant in the light of my recent research concerning a little known fact about the outbreak of the First World War. Let me explain.


Yesterday, I watched by sheer chance the spectacle of the Lord Mayor’s Show on television. This year’s parade for the inauguration of the 685th Lord Mayor of London, Alderman Roger Gifford, was no different from any other. As ever it was a combination of centuries old, corporate traditions, with floats and vintage vehicles representing the various Worshipful Companies, combined with local units from the armed forces along with enthusiastic and diverse community groups of children and young people. It was pageantry and modern day life parading together side by side to show off all that is best about our capital city.

http://www.ukcolumn.org/sites/default/files/alderman-roger-gifford.jpg

All very innocent and benign you would think. There was Roger Gifford, a banker by trade, smiling and clearly enjoying himself hugely as he doffed his large black tricorne hat to the passing parade. All around him on the VIP stand were his family, friends, business acquaintances and representatives from the City of London - people who just seemed relaxed, normal and happy.

Looking at this joyous and colourful scene on the streets of London, I was reminded of the fictional character Richard Hannay in John Buchan’s pre-First World War famous spy novel The Thirty-nine Steps. The final scene sees the hero Hannay confronting The Black Stone, the network of ingenious German spies who had morphed into the higher echelons of British society and had discovered, by the use of magnificent disguise and deception, the war-time dispositions of the Royal Navy. Having tracked them down to their secret lair on the Kentish coastline, Hannay is confronted by a scene of complete domestic normality. There is nothing about the Germans or the villa that could suggest anything other than a typical British upper middle class household at ease with itself enjoying a seaside holiday. But just one sudden flicker of recognition restored Hannay’s confidence that he had discovered The Black Stone.

Well, such a flicker of recognition also restored my confidence. As soon as I saw the giant wicker effigies of Gog and Magog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog) on the parade, the mythical ‘protectors’ of the City of London, my confusion disappeared. The façade of decency and respectability was gone in an instant - the truth of what we were really looking at had once again been restored (http://www.basketmakersco.org/basket-making/gog-magog).

http://www.ukcolumn.org/sites/default/files/lord-mayors-show-gog-magog-2012.jpg

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With the exception of a few thousand very powerful people, the entire world’s population, all seven billion of us, are trapped ... trapped into a criminal debt creating banking ‘system’ that has taken hundreds of years to perfect and to come to fruition. This ‘system’ results in enslavement and servitude. It creates dreadful unhappiness amongst ordinary decent people and causes wars, debt, starvation, pollution and environmental destruction. It feeds on greed, fear and division. It forces people onto the corporate treadmills of mass mindless production and mass mindless consumption. It uses lies, deception, intimidation and entrapment at all times. It is a system that is so clever and so cunning that most of the world is completely oblivious to its existence. It is a system that allows a few winners at the expense of a huge number of losers. It is a system that considers itself to be unbeatable and indestructible and is now so arrogant that it believes it can control everything and everyone on its terms. It is a system where psychopaths and sociopaths can flourish. And without question the centre of this system, the heart of this global corporate beast is the innocent sounding Square Mile known as the City of London.


Link to article (http://www.ukcolumn.org/article/bankers-bradburys-carnage-and-slaughter-western-front)

From wiki:

Book of Revelation

By the end of the 1st century, Jewish tradition had long since changed Ezekiel's Gog from Magog into Gog and Magog, the ultimate enemies of God's people, to be destroyed in the final battle.[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog#cite_note-19) The author of the Book of Revelation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation) tells how he sees in a vision Satan rallying Gog and Magog, "the nations in the four corners of the Earth," to a final battle with Christ and his saints:
When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the Earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog#cite_note-20)

Ezekiel's Gog from Magog was a symbol of the evil darkness of the north and the powers hostile to God,[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog#cite_note-Van_der_Toorn.2C_p.374-1) but in Revelation, Gog and Magog have no geographic location, and instead represent the nations of the world, banded together for the final assault on Christ and those who follow him.[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog#cite_note-21)

midnight rambler
2nd December 2012, 09:46 PM
Now a highlight of the Lord Mayor's Show each year the impressive figures of Gog and Magog lead this, the world's greatest unrehearsed procession. The effigies of two sixteenth century giants, Gog and Magog in the likeness of ancient guardians of the City of London for centuries have stood guard in Guildhall and the inflatable figures which have featured for some years past in the Lord Mayor's Show have been recreated in their original form of construction, using basketmaking techniques.


Clearly someone has gotten this Gog and Magog confused with an entirely different Gog and Magog. It's clearly all very innocent. You conspiracy theorists are a bunch of nutters. /sarc

mamboni
2nd December 2012, 09:50 PM
Fantastic read, fantastic.

Norweger
2nd December 2012, 11:01 PM
http://www.islam.tc/prophecies/yajooj.html

Horn
2nd December 2012, 11:41 PM
Gog and Magog are a lot like daily horoscopes, they can apply to everyone else and also yourself.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1Txsqz-eiQ

Glass
2nd December 2012, 11:53 PM
I actually did a quick google after I posted this and came up with this book or discussion paper:


I began my study of Gog and Magog more than fifteen years ago in the early 90’s while resident in New York. My subsequent public lectures on the subject never failed to provoke keen interest from my Muslim audiences in several parts of the world. The evidence and arguments presented in the chapter on Gog and Magog in my book, ‘Jerusalem in the Qur’an (http://www.imranhosein.org/books/37-jerusalem-in-the-quran.html)’, succeeded in convincing many who read the book that we now live in a world dominated by Gog and Magog. They were easily convinced that the ‘town’ mentioned in the Qur’ān in Sūrah al-Anbiyāh’ (21:95-6) was Jerusalem and hence, that Gog and Magog (and Dajjāl) explained the ominously unfolding ‘war on Islam’ with slaughter and destruction of Muslims in so many parts of the world. As a consequence, such readers also understood Israel’s mysterious imperial agenda, and many have been making efforts to extricate themselves and their families from the embrace of Gog and Magog – an embrace that will take 999 out of every 1000 of mankind into the hellfire.

Despite my best efforts, however, I failed miserably, again and again, to convince my learned peers, the scholars of Islam, that Gog and Magog were even released into the world. I earnestly hope and pray that this book might make a difference Insha’ Allah.

http://www.imranhosein.org/books/131-an-islamic-view-of-gog-and-magog-in-the-modern-age.html
There is a PDF download link on the page

It is written by a Muslim so some people won't be able to bring themselves to read it. I do find it interesting.

Partial ToC
The Importance of ‘Signs of the Last Day in the Modern Age’
Appearance and reality are opposite to each other
Can all of these events be occurring by accident?
Responding to Islamic sectarianism
The Shia sect
Ahmadiyyah
The Wahhabi sect


When Truth enters the heart, then a divine light (nūrullah) also eventually enters, and that light permits the believer’s powers
of observation and internal intuitive spiritual insight to penetrate beyond the ‘external’ appearances of things to reach their ‘internal’ reality. At this stage of the growth of Truth in the heart the believer now sees with two eyes – the ‘external’ and the ‘internal’ (Dajjāl,the False Messiah, sees with only one eye – the ‘external’).


The evidence and arguments presented in the chapter on Gog and Magog in my book, ‘Jerusalem in the Qur’an’, succeeded in convincing many who read the book that we now live in a world dominated by Gog and Magog. They were easily convinced that the ‘town’ mentioned in the Qur’ān in Sūrah al-Anbiyāh’ (21:95-6) was Jerusalem and hence, that Gog and Magog (and Dajjāl) explained the ominously unfolding ‘war on Islam’ with slaughter and
destruction of Muslims in so many parts of the world. As a consequence, such readers also understood Israel’s mysterious imperial agenda, and
many have been making efforts to extricate themselves and their families from the embrace of Gog and Magog – an embrace that will take 999 out
of every 1000 of mankind into the hellfire.


Gog and Magog are now the sole superpower, but they will be destroyed After over 1,500 years of merging like waves with Gog and
Magog, most of humanity has either adopted their lifestyle or is going along with it. Nowadays, it is very difficult to tell who is an original member of Gog and Magog and who simply has joined them. This is the basis of the hadith that 999 out of every 1,000 people in Hell shall be from Gog and Magog.

Gog and Magog are already coming out of every hill, every position of power (min kulli hadabin yansiloon, Qur’ān, al-Anbiyaa' 21:96). They are now the sole superpower on earth.

This 27 superpower is nothing but an unjust civilization (qaryatin zaalimatin), and like every other unjust civilization, it will be destroyed before the arrival of the Hour (al-Hajj 22:45-48).

Gog and Magog have realized the meaning (formula) of their Arabic name, Ya'jooj wa Ma'jooj. These two terms are active and passive word forms derived from the root “hamza jeem jeem” (the sounds “a j j”). The only other contexts containing this root in the Qur’ān, use the the word ujaaj which describes the taste of salty water as burning. Gog and Magog thus are those who burn others (Ya'jooj) and are themselves burned (Ma'jooj).

It actually gets more interesting than the above but I had to back track a long way and can't find the more interesting bits of info. Worth reading. Especially about the Dajjal.

Tidbits like these:

Allah uses terms derived from this root (yufsidoona, yufsidu, yufsida, tufsidoo, al-mufsideen, and so on) in many verses of the 28 Qur’ān in conjunction with certain types of behavior. Below are some verse examples that realize the formula of fasaad. Please note that the plural forms of verbs indicate collective or social activity. Also, the article al (the) and certain grammatical structures indicate comprehensiveness or totality. This is similar to “all the” or “the whole.”
1. Religious fasaad. Blatant abandonment of the whole Divine Covenant by a group that has solemnly committed itself to this covenant (yanqudoona 'ahda Allaahi min ba'di meethaaqihi . . . wa yufsidoona fil ard, Qur’ān, al-Baqarah, 2:27). When an avowedly strict or orthodox religious sect systematically breaks the laws of their own scripture, this is called fasaad. This behavior destroys the life of the Hereafter for the group.

2. Family ties fasaad. Systematic tearing up of all family ties (yaqta'oona ma amara Allahu bihee an yoosala wa yufsidoona fil ard, Qur’ān, al-Baqarah, 2:27). This means separating wives from husbands, children from parents, brothers from each other, and so on.

3. Genocidal fasaad. Mass murder (yufsidu feeha wa yasfikud-dimaa', literally, “sheds all the bloods,” Qur’ān, al-Baqarah, 2:30).

4. Agricultural fasaad. Systematic destruction or spoiling of all crops (li yufsida feeha wa yuhlika alharth, Qur’ān, al-Baqarah, 2:205). This includes, for
example, the ruining of whole agricultural systems or the genetic modification and insertion of poisons into 29 seeds.

5. Fasaad to offspring (nasl). Systematic destruction of all human reproduction or mass murder of all children (li yufsida feeha . . . wa yuhlika . . . an-nasl, Qur’ān, al-Baqarah, 2:205).

6. Economic fasaad. A trade system that enables the powerful to underpay people or deny them their dues (fa awful kayla wal meezaana wa la tabkhasoo annaasa ashya'ahum wa la tufsidoo fil ardi ba'da islaahiha, Qur’ān, al-A'raaf, 7:85).

7. Sodomy fasaad. Socially acceptable practice of homosexuality (ta'toona ar-rijaala . . . al-mufsideen, Qur’ān, al-'Ankaboot, 29:29-30). This culminates in
“gay marriage” and undermines real marriage.

Fasaad is then the deliberate and systematic destruction of human life by mass murder or by thorough destruction of key elements of life, including the life of the hereafter. Gog and Magog are called mufsidoon, but no type of fasaad is specified. They are thus a group whose collective profession or lifestyle is the creation
and practice of all kinds of fasaad. They verily earn the wrath of Allah and deserve to burn in Hell. They are the kind of people who are referred to as almaghdoobi 'alayhim (the ones who earned Allah's wrath) in al-Fatiha.

Glass
3rd December 2012, 12:00 AM
Gog and Magog are a lot like daily horoscopes, they can apply to everyone else and also yourself.

No this is not true although you do use the word "can" so I need a better word than true. It only applies to the 999 of 1000. If it is as you say, much like horoscopes then I would say that the believer of horoscopes is of the 999. I would say it's true for you but not for me.

joboo
3rd December 2012, 04:08 AM
http://www.danielbowen.com/images/2005/0928-gog-magog-nest.jpg

TheNocturnalEgyptian
3rd December 2012, 04:10 AM
http://www.basketmakersco.org/gfx/basket-makers-logo.jpg


Gog and Magog
Now a highlight of the Lord Mayor's Show each year the impressive figures of Gog and Magog lead this, the world's greatest unrehearsed procession. The effigies of two sixteenth century giants, Gog and Magog in the likeness of ancient guardians of the City of London for centuries have stood guard in Guildhall and the inflatable figures which have featured for some years past in the Lord Mayor's Show have been recreated in their original form of construction, using basketmaking techniques.

This was the brainchild of Past Prime Warden Mrs. Olivia Elton Barratt. What better way to promote the craft of basketmaking and the Basketmakers' Association than to have these giants on show with the Lord Mayor. This amazing 'Giant' of a project to recreate the effigies of Gog and Magog in willow received an enthusiastic welcome from the Lord Mayor's Show Pageant Master, Dominic Reid, and the Society of Young Freemen, who provided the manpower to transport the Giants through the City streets.

Construction commenced in the Spring of 2006 with the team comprising members of the Basketmakers' Association, together with Yeomen and Livery Members of the Basketmakers' Company. This presented a wonderful opportunity for all to contribute to a memorable project to publicise our ancient and very much alive craft. Apart from designing and building the willow frames the appropriate clothing and weapons carried by these giants had to be provided.

Thanks to the talents of Past Prime Warden Richard Bundock, suitable trolleys to support the structure were constructed. The figures stand some fifteen feet high, so a very sturdy and stable construction is essential. John Stuttard, then Lord Mayor Elect, visited the project to inspect progress during the second July session. The results of six months' work and much lengthy planning sees the Giants on parade ready for their journey to the City. The two figures were then presented to the City of London as a permanent token of the long connection between the Basketmakers' Company and this ancient City. The two figures can be seen, when not in use, standing within the Guildhall itself.

Norweger
3rd December 2012, 04:14 AM
I think they are a hidden people - as in living underground.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvz5d69gyLI

joboo
3rd December 2012, 04:19 AM
Cool party tunes.

"Cmon...that's more like it"

"woooooooo!"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOvXMltuNPg

Dafuq did I just watch?!?

palani
3rd December 2012, 04:46 AM
http://books.google.com/books?id=BcUHAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=gog+magog&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YJC8UP2cIOTU2AXktYHQDg&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAQ

The history of Gog and Magog, the champions of London, 1819

Horn
3rd December 2012, 10:31 AM
I would say it's true for you but not for me.

lol, Glass part of the .001%, you're sooo special.

I would think you need to be working in City of London at least... :)

Glass
3rd December 2012, 03:21 PM
lol, Glass part of the .001%, you're sooo special.

I would think you need to be working in City of London at least... :)


As a consequence, such readers also understood Israel’s mysterious imperial agenda, and many have been making efforts to extricate themselves and their families from the embrace of Gog and Magog – an embrace that will take 999 out of every 1000 of mankind into the hellfire

No claim to being special. Just pointing out how things are. If you are insulted then you might have a reason to ponder upon yourself and where you are at.

I wonder at the thinking of luciferians that believe, expect and worship for the coming of the "enlightened one" despite knowing how that turns out and still expecting to be around once it all goes down. Anyway each to their own.

Horn
3rd December 2012, 03:36 PM
Being of the chosen .01%

would it be improper for me to ask for a ringside seat ticket close to your isle, or are the ZOG protectors all sold out?

Like I'd want a part of the squandered remains.