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Santa
7th December 2012, 09:34 AM
Wow! This was a surprise. I've been looking into the origins of common contemporary political thought, such as Libertarianism and Anarchy and so forth and ran into this. It's a crazy world and apparently it has been for quite a while.
Lucifer the Lightbearer was an individualist-anarchist journal published by Moses Harman in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Originally produced by a local branch of the National Liberal League as the Valley Falls Liberal (1880–1883), Harman changed the title after he assumed sole editorship in 1883.
The mission of Lucifer was, according to Harman, "to help woman to break the chains that for ages have bound her to the rack of man-made law, spiritual, economic, industrial, social and especially sexual, believing that until woman is roused to a sense of her own responsibility on all lines of human endeavor, and especially on lines of her special field, that of reproduction of the race, there will be little if any real advancement toward a higher and truer civilization." The name was chosen because "Lucifer, the ancient name of the Morning Star, now called Venus, seems to us unsurpassed as a cognomen for a journal whose mission is to bring light to the dwellers in darkness."
In February 1887, the editors and publishers of Lucifer were arrested after the journal ran afoul of the Comstock Act for the publication of a letter condemning forced sex within marriage, which the author identified as rape. The Comstock Act specifically prohibited the discussion of marital rape. A Topeka district attorney eventually handed down 216 indictments. In February 1890, Harman, now the sole producer of Lucifer, was again arrested on charges resulting from a similar article written by a New York physician. As a result of the original charges, Harman would spend large portions of the next six years in prison.
In 1896, Lucifer was moved to Chicago; however, legal harassment continued. The United States Postal Service seized and destroyed numerous issues of the journal and, in May 1905, Harman was again arrested and convicted for the distribution of two articles - "The Fatherhood Question" and "More Thoughts on Sexology” by Sara Crist Campbell. Sentenced to a year of hard labor, the 75-year-old editor's health deteriorated greatly. After 24 years in production, Lucifer ceased publication in 1907 and became the more scholarly American Journal of Eugenics.
Hatha Sunahara
7th December 2012, 10:59 AM
I often run into documentation of the hidden history of the land of the free. It's more like a history of people waking up to what is oppressing them--or trying to wake others up. By and large, most people throughout history are asleep, and lack the energy to devote to freeing themselves from oppression. Those who have the energy are hounded relentlessly by the oppressors. All here in the land of the FREE!
Hatha
BarnkleBob
7th December 2012, 11:21 AM
It morphed into the Lucis Trust.... at one time it was titled Lucifer Publishing.... http://www.lucistrust.org/
midnight rambler
7th December 2012, 11:28 AM
It morphed into the Lucis Trust.... at one time it was titled Lucifer Publishing.... http://www.lucistrust.org/
You're mistaken. Lucifer the Lightbearer magazine and Lucifer magazine are two entirely different and totally unrelated magazines.
Lucifer magazine was originally published by the originator of Theosophy, Helena Blavatsky, and Theosophy is what morphed into Lucis Trust (originally Lucifer Trust/Lucifer Publishing) which was established by Alice (and Foster) Bailey who continued Blavatsky's work and promoted the Theosophical Society.
Lucifer the Lightbearer magazine has absolutely nothing to do with Blavatsky's work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer_%28magazine%29
sirgonzo420
7th December 2012, 11:49 AM
You're mistaken. Lucifer the Lightbearer magazine and Lucifer magazine are two entirely different and totally unrelated magazines.
Lucifer magazine was originally published by the originator of Theosophy, Helena Blavatsky, and Theosophy is what morphed into Lucis Trust (originally Lucifer Trust/Lucifer Publishing) which was established by Alice (and Foster) Bailey who continued Blavatsky's work and promoted the Theosophical Society.
Lucifer the Lightbearer magazine has absolutely nothing to do with Blavatsky's work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer_%28magazine%29
Here is an explanatory note as to the name of the aforementioned magazine:
http://blavatskyarchives.com/images/luciferwhat1.gif
Santa
7th December 2012, 01:40 PM
It morphed into the Lucis Trust.... at one time it was titled Lucifer Publishing.... http://www.lucistrust.org/
I started a thread here about Lucis Trust not too long ago, but it died on the vine.
Lucifer, metaphorically speaking, is the Lightbearer of Knowledge, specifically the knowledge of the duality of good and evil.
But I think there is an actual group of people who in fact and deed, worship Lucifer as lord and father. God of the material world. The Demiurge. They worship under the name of knowledge. And as we can see, the worship of knowledge is sacrosanct throughout the world. But they know themselves to have specific genetic traits that separate them from common human stock. Not just brains, but in the blood.
They believe themselves to be the chosen ones of a very specific bloodline, or Master Race. A family bloodline known in antiquity as "The Devils Brood." They're actually so proud of it, that they call themselves children of Satan or Lucifer, although carefully sprinkled in the fairy dust of mythology and theatrics.
The Aristocracy of Plato's Republic, the Ceasars of Rome, the Khans, the Emperors of the East, and the Plantagenit Kings of the holy Roman empire. The Elite.
They apparently cannot resist glamorizing their worldly positions in the media, in the movies and entertaiment. In music and literature and science. In the Arts.
The very word "Art" in the Arts is but a condensed version of the word artifice. Artificial. False image.
Their minions are legion because very very few can resist the glamour of the elevation of Self hood. Personal power and authority over and above God, and all others.
Knowledge is power. And power corrupts.
glam·our also glam·or (glmr)
n.
1. An air of compelling charm, romance, and excitement, especially when delusively alluring.
2. Archaic A magic spell; enchantment.
All the secrets of the past are thinly veiled right under the skin of our languages.
sirgonzo420
7th December 2012, 03:15 PM
I started a thread here about Lucis Trust not too long ago, but it died on the vine.
Lucifer, metaphorically speaking, is the Lightbearer of Knowledge, specifically the knowledge of the duality of good and evil.
But I think there is an actual group of people who in fact and deed, worship Lucifer as lord and father. God of the material world. The Demiurge. They worship under the name of knowledge. And as we can see, the worship of knowledge is sacrosanct throughout the world. But they know themselves to have specific genetic traits that separate them from common human stock. Not just brains, but in the blood.
They believe themselves to be the chosen ones of a very specific bloodline, or Master Race. A family bloodline known in antiquity as "The Devils Brood." They're actually so proud of it, that they call themselves children of Satan or Lucifer, although carefully sprinkled in the fairy dust of mythology and theatrics.
The Aristocracy of Plato's Republic, the Ceasars of Rome, the Khans, the Emperors of the East, and the Plantagenit Kings of the holy Roman empire. The Elite.
They apparently cannot resist glamorizing their worldly positions in the media, in the movies and entertaiment. In music and literature and science. In the Arts.
The very word "Art" in the Arts is but a condensed version of the word artifice. Artificial. False image.
Their minions are legion because very very few can resist the glamour of the elevation of Self hood. Personal power and authority over and above God, and all others.
Knowledge is power. And power corrupts.
glam·our also glam·or (glmr)
n.
1. An air of compelling charm, romance, and excitement, especially when delusively alluring.
2. Archaic A magic spell; enchantment.
All the secrets of the past are thinly veiled right under the skin of our languages.
True enough.
And secrets are to be revealed! (revealed, of course, being "re-veiled", according to Albert Pike in "Morals & Dogma")
Language is a fitting medium because to the kabbalists, the building blocks of Creation are letters!
Horn
7th December 2012, 04:33 PM
http://www.calledtocommunion.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/TrinitySheild.JPG
Deus (Latin pronunciation: [ˈdeːʊs] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_Latin)) is Latin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin) for "god (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_%28word%29)" or "deity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deity)". Latin deus and dīvus "divine", are descended from Proto-Indo-European (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language) *deiwos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deiwos), from the same root (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_%28linguistics%29) as *Dyēus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyeus), the reconstructed chief god of the Proto-Indo-European pantheon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_religion). Compare Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language) Zeus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeus)
The new religion of reason would be known as Deism. It had no time for the imaginative disciplines of mysticism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysticism) and mythology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythology). It turned its back on the myth of revelation and on such traditional "mysteries" as the Trinity, which had for so long held people in the thrall of superstition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstition). Instead it declared allegiance to the impersonal "Deus"
Glass
7th December 2012, 04:42 PM
True enough.
And secrets are to be revealed! (revealed, of course, being "re-veiled", according to Albert Pike in "Morals & Dogma")
Language is a fitting medium because to the kabbalists, the building blocks of Creation are letters!
Interesting timing on this thread from my perspective. With the harmonics and messmerism thread I started I have a fair bit of material on this topic that I am preparing to link up. The elements of Harmonics, messmerism (magnetism) and numerology are tightly linked. Cathie discovered this link and could see the pattern but he lacks some key knowledge of the hidden mysteries to put the last pieces together for a completely functioning solution. He can work backards from his measurements but has only succeeded in estimating the key(stone). The masons and other occultists know he sees the patterns. He has been visited many times by them. He knows they know he doesn't have the key and he knows they won't give it to him.
Reading the dissertations of Manly P Hall on the philosphy of the mysteries gives quite an interesting perspective to your post SG. You are nearly there with your statement about building blocks. Just one step further and you will have it. It falls into the realm of hidden mysteries, there fore it is hidden. The kabbalists think there is something else about letters. More in relation to their own than others, although the greek language would be acceptable. Halls work covers this topic.
Halls work covers a lot of ground from the masonics through to the white magic and black magic people. His dissertation is really the philiosphy of the religion that is freemasonry and it's historical roots. When reading it, you might almost get the feeling that the masonic church has been corrupted like the catholic one has. Early freemason philosphys sound benevolent. I'm still debating that one. He fills in some blanks for me and links harmonics of light and sound, states of existence which Cathie calls the matter/anti matter phases of existence. He talks about the ether, which again Cathie surmises about. All very interesting. A lot of correlations at the moment.
sirgonzo420
7th December 2012, 05:27 PM
Interesting timing on this thread from my perspective. With the harmonics and messmerism thread I started I have a fair bit of material on this topic that I am preparing to link up. The elements of Harmonics, messmerism (magnetism) and numerology are tightly linked. Cathie discovered this link and could see the pattern but he lacks some key knowledge of the hidden mysteries to put the last pieces together for a completely functioning solution. He can work backards from his measurements but has only succeeded in estimating the key(stone). The masons and other occultists know he sees the patterns. He has been visited many times by them. He knows they know he doesn't have the key and he knows they won't give it to him.
Reading the dissertations of Manly P Hall on the philosphy of the mysteries gives quite an interesting perspective to your post SG. You are nearly there with your statement about building blocks. Just one step further and you will have it. It falls into the realm of hidden mysteries, there fore it is hidden. The kabbalists think there is something else about letters. More in relation to their own than others, although the greek language would be acceptable. Halls work covers this topic.
Halls work covers a lot of ground from the masonics through to the white magic and black magic people. His dissertation is really the philiosphy of the religion that is freemasonry and it's historical roots. When reading it, you might almost get the feeling that the masonic church has been corrupted like the catholic one has. Early freemason philosphys sound benevolent. I'm still debating that one. He fills in some blanks for me and links harmonics of light and sound, states of existence which Cathie calls the matter/anti matter phases of existence. He talks about the ether, which again Cathie surmises about. All very interesting. A lot of correlations at the moment.
I'm not an occultist per se, but I'm not one to *always* let the cat all the way out of the bag.
:D
One reads a book from the front to the back, and not from the back to the front. Horse comes before the cart. I feel like I post too much as it is! Haha.
I am no stranger to Manly P. Hall, I own and have read his work. There are many others like him, and have been, through the ages, who keep the "perennial philosophy" (as Aldous Huxley put it) perennial.
Freemasonry is a funny thing. The original Freemasonic concepts are not repulsive to me, but still today when I see masonic decals on cars I cringe. Freemasonry is not what it used to be. Hell, they don't even give out Pike's book anymore. The Rosicrucians are probably closer to "real" Freemasons.
I am not a member of any masonic or occult group or order. I was a member of Mensa once, but that's the closest I've come to a "secret society".
7th trump
7th December 2012, 05:36 PM
I started a thread here about Lucis Trust not too long ago, but it died on the vine.
Lucifer, metaphorically speaking, is the Lightbearer of Knowledge, specifically the knowledge of the duality of good and evil.
But I think there is an actual group of people who in fact and deed, worship Lucifer as lord and father. God of the material world. The Demiurge. They worship under the name of knowledge. And as we can see, the worship of knowledge is sacrosanct throughout the world. But they know themselves to have specific genetic traits that separate them from common human stock. Not just brains, but in the blood.
They believe themselves to be the chosen ones of a very specific bloodline, or Master Race. A family bloodline known in antiquity as "The Devils Brood." They're actually so proud of it, that they call themselves children of Satan or Lucifer, although carefully sprinkled in the fairy dust of mythology and theatrics.
The Aristocracy of Plato's Republic, the Ceasars of Rome, the Khans, the Emperors of the East, and the Plantagenit Kings of the holy Roman empire. The Elite.
They apparently cannot resist glamorizing their worldly positions in the media, in the movies and entertaiment. In music and literature and science. In the Arts.
The very word "Art" in the Arts is but a condensed version of the word artifice. Artificial. False image.
Their minions are legion because very very few can resist the glamour of the elevation of Self hood. Personal power and authority over and above God, and all others.
Knowledge is power. And power corrupts.
glam·our also glam·or (glmr)
n.
1. An air of compelling charm, romance, and excitement, especially when delusively alluring.
2. Archaic A magic spell; enchantment.
All the secrets of the past are thinly veiled right under the skin of our languages.
You hit on the subject "knowledge of good and evil" that I was hounded about Santa.
I always agreed that in Genesis 17 the tree of the knowledge of and evil "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." is a reference to satan.
Before Eve partook of the fruit of that tree she didnt know or understand what evil was. She only knew "good". Once Eve ate of the fruit she was enlightened to evil and its deeds...........now she understood both good and evil....a duality as you pointed out.
She wasnt innocent any longer....she now knew she was naked and hid from God in the garden.
Horn
7th December 2012, 07:12 PM
FROM JESUS AND ME
http://www.beezone.com/AdiDa/jesusandme.html
StreetsOfGold
7th December 2012, 07:52 PM
the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." is a reference to satan
This is a NON Biblical allegorical appraoch to the story. As they say down south, pure bullcocks!!
The "TREE" is NOT satan and if you think it is, you have been decieved.
The "TREE" is actually identified later in scripture as well as the Tree of life.
The tree of the knowledge of Good and evil is some type of a special GRAPE TREE. Eating this fruit turned Mrs. Adams' complexion from a snowy white to a REDDISH brown and it was visibly obvious to anyone looking at her. Both her and Adam after he willingly partook (she was decieved) DIED as well FOR HER sake, which is why Adam is called the first Christ and Mrs. Adam is a type of the church.
Adam died for Eve's sake
Christ deid for the church's sake
They also lost other abilities including the ability to produce Vitamin C in the body and now need to toil the land by the sweat of their brow to stay alive and neither they nor their offspring will ever live past one day (a day according to the Lord 1000 yrs., of course).
7th trump
7th December 2012, 09:22 PM
This is a NON Biblical allegorical appraoch to the story. As they say down south, pure bullcocks!!
The "TREE" is NOT satan and if you think it is, you have been decieved.
The "TREE" is actually identified later in scripture as well as the Tree of life.
The tree of the knowledge of Good and evil is some type of a special GRAPE TREE. Eating this fruit turned Mrs. Adams' complexion from a snowy white to a REDDISH brown and it was visibly obvious to anyone looking at her. Both her and Adam after he willingly partook (she was decieved) DIED as well FOR HER sake, which is why Adam is called the first Christ and Mrs. Adam is a type of the church.
Adam died for Eve's sake
Christ deid for the church's sake
They also lost other abilities including the ability to produce Vitamin C in the body and now need to toil the land by the sweat of their brow to stay alive and neither they nor their offspring will ever live past one day (a day according to the Lord 1000 yrs., of course).
What ever you are smoking...........I'd stay away from it.
Tree of Life is Christ.
Tree of knowledge of good and evil is satan.
Glass
8th December 2012, 03:11 PM
I'm not an occultist per se, but I'm not one to *always* let the cat all the way out of the bag.
:D
One reads a book from the front to the back, and not from the back to the front. Horse comes before the cart. I feel like I post too much as it is! Haha.
I am no stranger to Manly P. Hall, I own and have read his work. There are many others like him, and have been, through the ages, who keep the "perennial philosophy" (as Aldous Huxley put it) perennial.
Freemasonry is a funny thing. The original Freemasonic concepts are not repulsive to me, but still today when I see masonic decals on cars I cringe. Freemasonry is not what it used to be. Hell, they don't even give out Pike's book anymore. The Rosicrucians are probably closer to "real" Freemasons.
I am not a member of any masonic or occult group or order. I was a member of Mensa once, but that's the closest I've come to a "secret society".
There is a lot of undocumented mythology in their philosophy at their own admission. More so than other religions I think. I find that curious when considering they claim the moral high ground as the true religion. And yes I agree it appears to be a severely corrupted organisation that is blind to it's corruption. Not unlike some other religions. Hall pulls in a lot of topics and delineates white magic from black. Some of it sounds like it's straight out of kids stories with goblins and sylphs but maybe those stories weren't just for children when they were written. As for spirits or what ever they are, they are there. A lot of people see them and been affected by them. The topic of sylphs has been talked about a lot here when the topic of those ormus/orgone (?) devices came up. The masons have developed quite an obsession to the numbers inso much as their religion revolves around patterns in mathematics. This is why Cathies work is so interesting. He became a mathematics pattern worshiper too. According to Hall, they worship the works of Pythagoreous as the work of a God but they have lost the key to his works. Apparently a lot of his works were destroyed and they can only guess at what they contained. But they do have his theorem around which they have created a significant worshipful following.
Glass
8th December 2012, 03:13 PM
What ever you are smoking...........I'd stay away from it.
Tree of Life is Christ.
Tree of knowledge of good and evil is satan.
There is another Tree mentioned in the Bible. I'm not sure it is either of those types of Tree. It stands on an island. Symbolic of being between two different ideologies perhaps.
StreetsOfGold
8th December 2012, 07:30 PM
What ever you are smoking...........I'd stay away from it.
Tree of Life is Christ.
Tree of knowledge of good and evil is satan.
A tree is NOT a person, Jesus Christ is God manifested in the flesh. Satan is a created being. Neither one is a "TREE" The question is what are you smoking since no one could be that stupid!
zap
8th December 2012, 08:03 PM
I have been taught that, Jesus Christ is the son of God, and Satan was a Angel ( very close to God )who wanted to be as Powerful as God and there fore God sent him to hell to reign over it.
and Eve ate from the tree of life, which gave her knowledge, she gave some to Adam and he ate of it, and nobody liked that.
LuckyStrike
8th December 2012, 08:24 PM
A tree is NOT a person, Jesus Christ is God manifested in the flesh. Satan is a created being. Neither one is a "TREE" The question is what are you smoking since no one could be that stupid!
SoG, you are a jewish agent, I'm calling you out right now, you are here because I am here and post Dual Seedline Christian Identity articles on this site and my blog. Don't think you fool anyone.
In Genesis it says Satan beguiled eve, beguiled in Strongs means "wholly seduced". Since the sins were sexual in nature, Eve was affected in a sexual way (child birth) and it very clearly describes the enmity between their two seedlines (Cain and Abel, Seth) it goes on to explain that he will bruise his head and he will bruise his heel which is clearly a reference to Jacob and Esau where Jacob grabbed Esau's ankle at birth because he came out first. And as we all know "god loved Jacob and hated Esau" even before they were born. Gee zionist SoG I wonder how you explain that.
If anyone after this thinks SoG has it right, this will alleviate all doubt
http://www.anglo-saxonisrael.com/content/part-1-two-bloodlines
zap
8th December 2012, 09:09 PM
Jacob and Esau where Jacob grabbed Esau's ankle at birth because he came out first. And as we all know "god loved Jacob and hated Esau" even before they were born. Gee zionist SoG I wonder how you explain that.
I really don't understand that Luckystrike, our GOD...... who is the all mighty who forgives if you just ask him, REALLY hate a child? I don't get iT is the huge problem I have with organized religion. God is supposed to be forgiving GOD. A loving GOD ?
THAT SOB HAS SCREWED ME OVER MORE TIMES THEN I CARE TO COUNT, LETS SEE, mil 8 MONTHS FIL, 9 MONTHS LATER MY HUSBAND, 1 YEAR LATER MY DAD, 2 YEARS LATER MY SISTER!
I am so disgusted with this WONDERFUL GOD.... I could PUKE .
When will the Bastard decide I wilLdie ....Fuck him , He will play hell trying to get me up there? I am going to fight HIM AND DEATH AS HARD AS I CAN and then He will have a HELL Of a HARD time Getting me THERE. !!@!
LuckyStrike
8th December 2012, 09:20 PM
When will the Bastard decide I wilLdie ....Fuck him , He will play hell trying to get me up there? I am going to fight HIM AND DEATH AS HARD AS I CAN and then He will have a HELL Of a HARD time Getting me THERE. !!@!
Thanks for telling me.
Horn
8th December 2012, 09:52 PM
Jewish Playwrights and Artistic Directors Discuss the State of the Art of Criticism Today (http://www.nitelifeexchange.com/interviews-mainmenu-154/1644-playwrights-and-artistic-directors-discuss-the-state-of-the-art-of-criticism-today.html)
Over the course of my 30-year editorship of Back Stage, I interviewed many people who wanted to write theatre reviews for us. The writers that I did eventually choose all had THE qualities that I was looking for and met the standards that I set up. Here’s some of the things that I considered:
1.) Naturally, good writing skills were a must; 2.) The person had to have a passion for theatre; 3.) He or she would need to have a broad theatregoing experience in order to have a context upon which to judge; 4.) Of prime importance and very influential were their educational and work background, and the profile level of the publications that they wrote for; 5.) Personality was key! The person had to be personable, open to suggestions, and have an optimistic attitude to life; my idea was that this type of person would be more open and accepting to whatever was being presented on stage; 6.) He also had to understand the value of “constructive” criticism. My point of view was that it wasn’t the theatre critic’s place to tell the playwright what he or she should be doing; instead, the critic should focus on what is already there and explain either why it works or why is doesn’t work.
http://www.nitelifeexchange.com/interviews-mainmenu-154/1644-playwrights-and-artistic-directors-discuss-the-state-of-the-art-of-criticism-today.html
Shami-Amourae
8th December 2012, 09:54 PM
What if both the Christian God (I'll refer to him as YHWH) and Lucifer were both Evil douche bags?
There is this claim that Lucifer is about Individualism, when on the contrary he's about collective control in a pyramidal power structure. YHWH is obsessed with you doing a lot of dumb shit, that EVERYONE ignores, and then hurt people who have done nothing to hurt you or their fellow man. Most Christians are so retarded that they openly practice paganism, and don't know it, and they will defend any attacks against it religiously.
Lucifer is about enslaving your fellow man and extracting all the wealth, health, power, and freedoms from them them like a parasite. YHWH takes sick perverted pleasure in committing mass genocide against unbelievers, who typical are peaceful, and just want to keep to themselves. YHWH wants a compliant, obedient slave, and holds a false "reward" of Heaven over a person's head as a treat, so they are a good slave. He also needs your money really bad, and is so disorganized he has thousands of different groups worshiping him in different ways, and none of them can agree on all the aspects of/how to serve YHWH. These good "servants" go to war with another over their delusions of whose right and whose wrong rather than connecting directly as an Individual.
If you are a good, loving person and don't serve YHWH totally as a good little slave you GO TO HELL FOREVER. What a fucking dick!
Both are sadists. Both are Evil. Both are inventions of the sick desires of men who want to control and manipulate their fellow man. All human history is a bunch of inbred scumbags manipulating and controlling their fellow man. Both government and religion are inventions/tools to achieve this scumbaggery.
Neither gives a shit about the Individual. Both are about enslaving the Individual by various means. All they care about is extracting MORE and MORE out of you like a fucking cow.
I'm so sick of this duality bullshit. Seriously. It's like people who think you HAVE to be either a Democrat or Republican. They are the same fucking thing! They appear somewhat different on the outside, but they both have the same agenda really. Life is about dealing with a bunch of inbred megalomaniacs who want nothing more to ruin your life for their own sick pleasures. There is no justice or fairness in this world, only Evil runs things.
There is NO Good in this world, other than the little, and rare good of those Individuals trying to better themselves, and while in this pursuit, better those around them. Almost everything is, and has been a lie. Everything is about control and manipulation. The only path to "salvation" is through the self, striving always to improve yourself and find happiness for yourself. No one will tell you the truth outright, since everything is corrupted. Nothing is pure.
Lucifer and YHWH are both Evil. Frankly I think they are the same thing.
woodman
9th December 2012, 06:56 AM
Shami, you said it better than I could. Agreed on all points.
JDRock
9th December 2012, 07:50 AM
"moses harman" another rock is unturned and yet ANOTHER tribesman....
keehah
9th December 2012, 08:05 AM
True enough.
And secrets are to be revealed! (revealed, of course, being "re-veiled", according to Albert Pike in "Morals & Dogma")
Language is a fitting medium because to the kabbalists, the building blocks of Creation are letters!
θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος
ποίησις
Santa
9th December 2012, 08:23 AM
"moses harman" another rock is unturned and yet ANOTHER tribesman....
Moses Harman (October 12, 1830 – January 30, 1910) was an American schoolteacher and publisher notable for his staunch support for women's rights. He was prosecuted under the Comstock Law for content published in his anarchist periodical Lucifer the Lightbearer. He was arrested and jailed multiple times for publishing allegedly obscene material. His daughter, Lillian Harman, was also a notable anarchist.
Biography
Harman has been credited as one of the founders of what became the eugenics movement. "He gave the spur and start to this effort. Through his journals, Lucifer, the Light Bearer, later re-christened The Eugenic Magazine, encouraged by a small circle of earnest men and women, he dug down below the surface endeavoring to bring forth a stronger and better type of men".[1]
He died on January 30, 1910 in Los Angeles.[2]
sirgonzo420
9th December 2012, 09:19 AM
θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος
ποίησις
αληθώς
:)
Horn
9th December 2012, 09:39 AM
αληθώς
:)
Εμείς πρέπει να τους κοτολετών
Glass
9th December 2012, 03:18 PM
Jacob and Esau where Jacob grabbed Esau's ankle at birth because he came out first. And as we all know "god loved Jacob and hated Esau" even before they were born. Gee zionist SoG I wonder how you explain that.
I really don't understand that Luckystrike, our GOD...... who is the all mighty who forgives if you just ask him, REALLY hate a child? I don't get iT is the huge problem I have with organized religion. God is supposed to be forgiving GOD. A loving GOD ?
THAT SOB HAS SCREWED ME OVER MORE TIMES THEN I CARE TO COUNT, LETS SEE, mil 8 MONTHS FIL, 9 MONTHS LATER MY HUSBAND, 1 YEAR LATER MY DAD, 2 YEARS LATER MY SISTER!
I am so disgusted with this WONDERFUL GOD.... I could PUKE .
When will the Bastard decide I wilLdie ....Fuck him , He will play hell trying to get me up there? I am going to fight HIM AND DEATH AS HARD AS I CAN and then He will have a HELL Of a HARD time Getting me THERE. !!@!
Who would you project your anger onto, if there was no God? And why do you think God did those things? These Gods and Anti Gods use proxies in their works. Please keep that in mind.
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