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Down1
7th December 2012, 11:58 AM
The US government isn’t allowed to wiretap American citizens without a warrant from a judge. But there are plenty of legal ways for law enforcement, from the local sheriff to the FBI, to snoop on the digital trails you create every day. Authorities can often obtain your e-mails and texts by going to Google or AT&T with a simple subpoena. Usually you won’t even be notified. The Senate last week took a step toward updating privacy protection for emails, but it's likely the issue will be kicked to the next Congress. In the meantime, here’s how police can track you without a warrant now:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/12/no-warrant-no-problem-how-the-government-can-still-get-your-digital-data/


http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/12/no-warrant-no-problem-how-the-government-can-still-get-your-digital-data/

Twisted Titan
7th December 2012, 12:22 PM
Why would they need a warrant when they can just bust down your door steal.your property trash it at the same and kill you or the dog in the same raid and NOTHING will happen to anybody?

Warrants are to sell you on the illusion that there exists rule of law.

There isnt.....just shocktroopers working at the behest of the power mongers

osoab
7th December 2012, 12:45 PM
Defcon 2010 - Your ISP and the Government Best Friends Forever (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?42523-Defcon-2010-Your-ISP-and-the-Government-Best-Friends-Forever&highlight=defcon)


Here's the video that was in the thread above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJDCxzKmROY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJDCxzKmROY

palani
7th December 2012, 02:04 PM
News this morning had a lady in Minnesota who sued because her government files had been viewed over 500 times by around 145 different cops. So far she has collected over a million dollars from several of those sued. This is despite having worked for the cops and being married into a cop family. Evidently the cops liked the fact that she had lost over a hundred pounds and looked pretty buff. They were using the public records for DATING but she sounded genuinely terrified.

Hatha Sunahara
7th December 2012, 11:08 PM
I don't understand this compulsion to read other peoples email, or to look at their private stuff. What kind of paranoid schizo control freak has this kind of compulsion? The need to get into other peoples stuff is a mental sickness that the public needs protection from. Instead we get the ubiquitous war on terror to justify this totalitarian inclination in public officials. Which amendment in the Bill of Rights prohibits the government from unreasonable searches and seizures? Don't they have to have probable cause to search your digital information? Or do they claim a right to search anybody's stuff without cause? Does the government get to decide what is a crime and what isn't? Twisted Titan has it right. We no longer have the rule of law. We have no protection from the government. Why don't they just adopt a Bill of NO Rights? One simple statement: You have no rights. No one needs your consent to destroy you.


Hatha

10 Bears
8th December 2012, 12:09 AM
Government can suck my dic.. OOPS! Me quit writing email except to do limited business 4yrs ago.
No cellphone..no debit card, no credit cards- I locked paid off. I do very little trackable. Pay cash at hotels making no reservations. No travel sites..do not fly. I drive everywhere.

Just a bit of effort to make the Gestapo work harder.

Twisted Titan
8th December 2012, 04:02 AM
Its funny paying with cash at a major hotel chain is a instant red flag.

10 Bears
8th December 2012, 02:04 PM
It is far more hysterical that success is viewed with suspiciousness.
Everyone thinks people with money did something bad.