Reefer Madness: Feds making noises about striking out at Colorado and Washington

[midnight rambler]

Send in the drones!

http://rt.com/usa/news/marijuana-federal-law-state-541/

[Cebu_4_2]

Must be some real bad stuff since they are fighting against it so hard :/

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Published: 07 December, 2012, 21:09


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New legislation in Washington state went into effect this week that legalizes for the first time in ages the possession of marijuana. Federal law still says otherwise, though, setting up the Justice Department to make some serious determinations.
Even as smoking up became protected by state law in Washington starting Thursday, coast-to-coast prohibition as provided by a long-standing federal ruling remains on the books. For marijuana advocates in the Pacific Northwest, the lifting of the ban is a pretty big victory. That doesn’t mean that the Justice Department has ruled out an intervention, though.
Since voters in Washington and Colorado opted on Election Day to legalize small amounts of marijuana for recreational use, the Department of Justice has been relatively quiet over how it will handle what is likely to become a heated debate regarding states’ rights. In an article published by The New York Times this week, reporter Charlie Savage says senior White House and Justice Department officials are already attempting to tackle how to handle the new marijuana laws, and are amid deliberations right now that will determine when, where and how national law enforcement can intervene.
Savage cites anonymous sources familiar with the discussions in DC, whom he says are considering plans for legal action against the states of Colorado and Washington. Meanwhile this week the Obama administration once again chimed in on the topic, but as with earlier abbreviated statements, the only words out of the nation’s capital forecast an ominous battle likely to brew for some time.
When the results of the legislations up for vote in both states trickled through on the evening of Election Day, the Justice Department dispatched a short statement clarifying the federal classification of marijuana as an illegal substance. This week, the United States attorney for Seattle, WA once again warned that federal law is still on the books.
“In enacting the Controlled Substances Act, Congress determined that marijuana is a Schedule I controlled substance,” state attorney Jenny A. Durkan announced in a statement. “Regardless of any changes in state law, including the change that will go into effect on December 6 in Washington State, growing, selling or possessing any amount of marijuana remains illegal under federal law.”
Additionally, the New York Times quotes Durkan as saying the Justice Department maintains that its "responsibility to enforce the Controlled Substances Act remains unchanged," meaning federal law enforcement isn’t necessarily interested in adhering to local rules.
A similar legislation approved during last month’s Election Day is expected to go on the books in Colorado in the coming weeks. Even before becoming official, however, some important state institutions have announced that they won’t be cooperating with the end of prohibition.
"In order not to lose federal funds, we need to comply with federal law," University of Colorado at Boulder spokeswoman Malinda Hiller-Huey told The Denver Post.
Speaking to NBC, Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper acknowledged even before the new law was approved that it would be an uphill battle for local marijuana advocates given the feds’ insistence in playing by their own rules.
"It's probably going to pass, but it's still illegal on a federal basis. If we can't make it legal here because of federal laws, we certainly want to decriminalize it,” he said.
Seattle City Attorney Pete Holmes tells NPR station KUOW that in his state, residents should be thankful that local law enforcement won’t be tasked with what is largely considered not just a non-issue, but an expensive endeavor. Whereas schools and universities in Colorado aren’t considering the new law for the sake of saving money, Holmes says the legislation in Washington will actually save the state bundles.
"I think that they should acknowledge this newfound right," he says to KUOW. "I think they should celebrate in the privacy of their homes if they choose to do so. And be thankful that we’re no longer arresting some 10,000 Washingtonians a year in the state of Washington and spending well over $100 million in law enforcement resources on that."
Meanwhile, more liberal minded lawmakers in the District are hoping to iron out a way to ensure that state laws are protected before federal agents can have their way. Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colorado) introduced a bipartisan legislation before Congress that will amend the US Controlled Substances Act to provide that federal law shall not preempt state marijuana laws.
"I am proud to join with colleagues from both sides of the aisle on the 'Respect States' and Citizens' Rights Act' to protect states' rights and immediately resolve any conflict with the federal government," Rep. DeGette said upon introducing House Bill 6606. "In Colorado we've witnessed the aggressive policies of the federal government in their treatment of legal medicinal marijuana providers. My constituents have spoken and I don't want the federal government denying money to Colorado or taking other punitive steps that would undermine the will of our citizens."
According to a recent survey conducted by Public Policy Polling, nearly six out of ten Americans want marijuana legalization on a widespread scale. In a separate Angus Reid Public Opinion poll published last week, over 60 percent of Americans surveyed said they expect marijuana to be federally permitted within the next decade.

[vacuum]

Interesting comment from the rt article

I located a glass blower in New York state that can make you a column still head for under $300. When you install it on a common hot water heater, you have yourself a very high quality ethanol distillation tool for well under $1000. No need to grow anything. Just mix sugar with water, add some yeast, let the mixture ferment and make ethanol, then distill it in the column still. After distillation, just add enough water to bring it down to around 80 proof, and you have vodka just like you buy in the liquor store. Total cost is about $1 per liter, or about 1/10 what a liter of good quality vodka would cost in a liquor store. Growing marijuana does nothing to take tax money away from the government, as they do not legalize and tax it. If you make vodka, you not only save a lot of money on your own liquor, but you prevent the collection of taxes on the liquor you would have bought had you not made it. It you sell some to friends, you make money, they save money, and even less liquor tax is collected. Growing marijuana does not give you all these benefits, so it is best to switch to alcohol distillation if you can live in a place that allows you the privacy to do so. Hint: If you live in a place where people still burn coal for heat in the winter, the smell of coal burning will certainly overpower any smell that your alcohol still produces. :)

[midnight rambler]

Like Bill Hicks said, making pot illegal is like saying God made a mistake.

[Libertarian_Guard]

The last three U.S. residents have admitted to (at least once) smoking marijuana.

And here we still are. Will wonders never cease?

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Bill Clinton just released a statement saying he thinks the war on drugs is a failure and waste of money.


Will wonders never cease? These people never realize while they are in office.

[Libertarian_Guard]

Being politicallly correct wins out over truth every time.

Another example of this was during the early republican debates. And I'll give Rick Perry credit here, the question was passed around, if Social Security was a ponzi scheme? A few were clear, that it is a ponzi scheme, but most couldn't touch this simple truth and danced around it while playing to the simpleton voter that can't swallow this.

And so too it is with the current state of 'Reefer Madness' in this country.

[General of Darkness]

States are fucking with CIA income.

[Hatha Sunahara]

The Fed's attitude about legalizing marijuana is a demonstration of their contempt for democracy and the will of the people. In America, the people are sovereign--not the Federal government. I'd like to believe that more states will legalize marijuana. More than half the population can already see how the prohibition of it is more harmful than the substance itself. If it is legalized, there will be less crime, not more crime. Everything the government tells you about it is a lie.

Hatha

[Libertarian_Guard]

http://i47.tinypic.com/hwidc8.png

[joboo]

They voted for it in majority. Is that not good enough anymore?

WTF...

[madfranks]

They voted for it in majority. Is that not good enough anymore?

WTF...

They only champion democracy when it suits their interests. What a joke.

[Libertarian_Guard]

They only champion democracy when it suits their interests. What a joke.

Their interests are where the most revenue may be had. Both taxes and democracy fall one step below the continued growth of the (economy?) monster.

[banjo]

"The Berlin Wall of pot prohibition seems to be crumbling before our eyes."


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-next-seven-states-to-legalize-pot-20121218

[joboo]

They only champion democracy when it suits their interests. What a joke.

...and this type of behavior totally undermines any perceived legitimacy....globally.

What a disgrace.

[joboo]

http://www.breakingthetaboo.info/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8UtNF-Le2L0

[Ponce]

Those people must give everyone a reazon for doing bad so that they can continued to get a salary.....with no criminals around they would be out of a job...

[slvrbugjim]

Too stoned to post but in any way
got go with a beer that we all love Falstaf and Jax love those beers.

[Serpo]

Laws are such fun ,one says yes ,one says no................

[joboo]

Here's the torrent. Watching it now. Good copy. Beats slumming it on Jootoob.

https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7899140/Breaking_the_Taboo_1080p_mp4

"If you can't control drug use in a maximum security prison, how can you control drug use in a free society?"

[gunDriller]

http://www.breakingthetaboo.info/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8UtNF-Le2L0


Thanks Joboo & the other posters - it's a very good point.

The US gov. has a real obsession with denying consumers of Marijuana their 2nd Amendment rights.

[joboo]

Documentary was good.

How insane is the process of trying to control which neurons fire inside people's heads?

Seriously unbelievable idiocy going on with that scenario, yet some people think they can actually do it.

Proof positive there really is no limit on stupidity.

Specifically liked the angle on how drugs take away your freedom (some more than others). Your freedom of choice be it large or small. Voluntary enslavement without realization.

Bill Clinton making some solid points...wow.

[Libertarian_Guard]

Cannabis can make patients 'less bothered by pain'

Cannabis makes pain more bearable rather than actually reducing it, a study from the University of Oxford suggests.


Using brain imaging, researchers found that the psychoactive ingredient in cannabis reduced activity in a part of the brain linked to emotional aspects of pain.

But the effect on the pain experienced varied greatly, they said.

The researchers' findings are published in the journal Pain.

The Oxford researchers recruited 12 healthy men to take part in their small study.

Participants were given either a 15mg tablet of THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol) - the ingredient that is responsible for the high - or a placebo.

The volunteers then had a cream rubbed into the skin of one leg to induce pain, which was either a dummy cream or a cream that contained chilli - which caused a burning and painful sensation.

Each participant had four MRI scans which revealed how their brain activity changed when their perception of the pain reduced.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20810603

[Serpo]

Bill Clinton never inhaled before he was a pres,never inhaled as as pres but now he starts inhaling?

[joboo]

Bill Clinton never inhaled before he was a pres,never inhaled as as pres but now he starts inhaling?

He reflected, aged, and seemingly gained some wisdom.

Perhaps he's feeling guilty, sensing mortality, and getting right with his god?

That one dude from Brazil summed it up perfectly. If you can't even control drug use in a maximum security prison....then.....well.....wtf?!?

It's just not gonna happen. Time to face reality, stop wasting money, stop enabling criminal enterprise through prohibition, and reorganize the approach to drug use in society.

[Jewboo]

Too stoned to post but in any way
got go with a beer that we all love Falstaf and Jax love those beers.

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1516/98/1516982460943.png

As lucid as the average "Dogman" post.

:rolleyes:

[Dogman]

Other than threatening to kill me, get over it bookie.

May your life be interesting.

;D

BTW....!

Nice tits !

She is welcome to roll me any time 24/7/365

Lmfao !

[Jewboo]

Other than threatening to kill me, get over it bookie.

So THIS (https://www.google.com/search?q=even+i+know+thats+retarded+meme&tbm=isch&tbs=simg:CAQSmQEJN4BEs-djqBQajQELEKjU2AQaBgg9CBUIAgwLELCMpwgaYgpgCAMSKLsa uRq2GqcQuhr7GPkPhBn4D48crS7QOrIu0zrJOtstzTq3LrQu3C 0aMG4TUQvG55JCPlRs0pYwk9kiM8uR-Yjod43Ix1b-nihIQZHXNH4gHvWPt6FW5knuGiAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIEA3d7WAw&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjwiZ23iPbYAhVIY6wKHW9_AvkQ2A4IJSgB&biw=1525&bih=716) really is "Dogman!

:D

[Dogman]

9643Mostly done with you, tried of the juvenal school yard bull shit.

At least for now, u are not worth my time from this point.

You did threaten to kill me, intent is and was evident. Dam I am shaking in feer.. Rotflmfao.

Live long and enjoy your life bookie.

My last response directly to you for a tad of time.

;D

U will never change, reminds me of this.

Nod to the OP there is no going back, I hope I live long enough to see texas make it legal.