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General of Darkness
8th December 2012, 07:14 PM
People know I really enjoy trance music and I like this song from the Swedish House Mafia, but it got me thinking.

The words not the intent. Don't you worry don't you worry child, see heavens got a plan for you. On first glance for me it's like Santa Claus and Christmas.Statements like, "what will be, will be". It alleviates all responsibility.

Is there a God, fate, or you can't change your destiny. Or when it's over, it's over. Or is everyone becoming a mindless drone, that just blindly follows the next fad?

These are very confusing times, BUT they are exciting because the wave of human energy is changing. And trust me, the energy that humans produce is very powerful. I remember flying back to L.A. in the 80's when L.A. was still worth a shit and you could feel the energy, it was like being dropped in the middle of a casino that was rocking.

I think people would rather believe that heaven has a plan for them because they'll believe they don't have to work for "life" or living. I don't know if there's an after life, but I do know that I'm here and the things that provide me with the most joy is spending time with the people that make me smile, everything else is just filler.

Rambling off.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y6smkh6c-0

madfranks
9th December 2012, 07:49 AM
I think people would rather believe that heaven has a plan for them because they'll believe they don't have to work for "life" or living.

Hmm, I disagree. I think it's comforting to know that someone out there does care about you and has a plan for you, and that's a comfort that most people seek out, and believe in. I don't think it has anything to do with slacking off life's responsibilities.

Twisted Titan
9th December 2012, 10:35 AM
Religion is what keeps the poor from killing the rich.

Napoleon



That was the same talk the platation master use to feed the slave to keep him from kiling everybody.and burning the plantation to the ground

StreetsOfGold
9th December 2012, 02:41 PM
Tis one life, T'will soon be past, only what's done for Christ will last.

James 4:14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

Matthew 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
Matthew 6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
Matthew 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

millwright
9th December 2012, 02:58 PM
Hmm, I disagree. I think it's comforting to know that someone out there does care about you and has a plan for you, and that's a comfort that most people seek out, and believe in. I don't think it has anything to do with slacking off life's responsibilities.


Ahh ok let me get this straight. Im an African child . I was birthed by a women with Aids, my father was murdered by a local war lord,and by the age of 4 I am dying of starvation.

What a plan! Thanks God ! ! !

Organized religion and the belief in a loving caring God that oversees all and has a plan for everyone as well comes down to nothing more then perception.

The perception of someone born in the west in the first world is vastly differant then that of someone born into squalor ,disease and starvation.

Just Sayin

Twisted Titan
10th December 2012, 04:10 AM
I really dont know why God ( or whatever name that suits you) allow some of us to draw the short straw versus a long one.


True story.

In middle of the gas crunch i had 1 jerry can on my porch. Fearing that someone might break in i decided to move It to the basment one problem im in the house alone and im watching the baby who is in a very clingy mood.

So i get the bright idea to hold the jerry can in one arm and hold my daugther "securely" in the other its only about 8 steps so i will walk down real slow.


I make it about 3 steps....

The speed at which i started to fall was sureal.....how i held on to her will be a mystery that i will ponder to my grave.

Bottles of oilive oil that i was meaning to take upstairs exploded and huge deep glass shards went flying the jerry can full of fuel went tearing in another direction and my cell phone came apart with battery back exposed. .......all it would have taken was a spark.


Instead of suffering multiple head and body compound factures dying in a explosion from the result of fuel.spill hear is what happened


I came to rest on my back.....the latch on the jerry can never came off and the phone landed face down away in a far corner...i looked at my baby she looked at me i stood up and touched myself all around because when adrenaline hits you have no pain i examined by daughter as well.

Not a scratch.

I went upstairs with a slight limp because i bruised my hip a bit.


By rights i should be dead cripple and my baby should be a vegetable.


Why i didnt pull the short straw......i dont know but as a form of gratitude i usally fast one day week.


Just felt compelled to share

10 Bears
10th December 2012, 04:35 AM
Ahh ok let me get this straight. Im an African child . I was birthed by a women with Aids, my father was murdered by a local war lord,and by the age of 4 I am dying of starvation.

What a plan! Thanks God ! ! !

Organized religion and the belief in a loving caring God that oversees all and has a plan for everyone as well comes down to nothing more then perception.

The perception of someone born in the west in the first world is vastly differant then that of someone born into squalor ,disease and starvation.

Just Sayin

Look at the history of the country and what people have allowed to go on over hundreds of years. What you describe is the failure of that civilization. The failure of Governmental Right Actions. The failure of the masses to make it right.

Look at America.. what we once were. What we have allowed through our own greediness and sloth and apathy. Seems to me there is a multitude of connections between the actions of the many and the outcomes of the many.

What of WE in the United States that say we promote safety in the world and peace yet turn our backs on countries that have nothing to steal like minerals or oil. Did we stop the slaughter in the Sudan? Did we stop the massacres in Rhodesia or Somalia?

What with no oil or anything to plunder why help others?

These things you speak of go to the failings of mankind and not God. God shows us the right ways but it is up to us to get it done. Again I see we shirk responsibility and put the blame on the creator.

You might give to Feed The Children or World Vision as many do to try to alleviate that suffering instead of simply just notice it.

Thank You for these posts. They helped me define again for myself why it is I do believe in God. There are from time to time instances where I drift.. these postings correct my drift.

Thank You.

freespirit
10th December 2012, 05:31 AM
one thing i notice is that the perception of time plays a big part of all this.
some in this realm may spend their lifetime in suffering, and at 70 some years on the average, in our view that is a lot of suffering. one must remember that a lifetime here is barely an instant in the eyes of God.

time is an invention of man, not God. once free of this existence, time no longer has any meaning, as we are pure energy or spirit at that point, and time ceases to exist.

you don't think God is up there in heaven rockin' a Rolex do you?

life is amazing, awesome, terrible and unfair all at the same time, just depends on your personal perspective is all...

Ponce
10th December 2012, 08:47 AM
What happens to you doesn't matter, because shit happens, but how you handle what happens is what counts.....I am a lot happier sinse I have changed my view in life.......my life has been a hell of a ride, it has been like riding a rollercoaster where the wagon is now slowing down and coming to a stop.

First post of the day.......... good morning to one and all.

millwright
10th December 2012, 03:31 PM
Look at the history of the country and what people have allowed to go on over hundreds of years. What you describe is the failure of that civilization. The failure of Governmental Right Actions. The failure of the masses to make it right.

Look at America.. what we once were. What we have allowed through our own greediness and sloth and apathy. Seems to me there is a multitude of connections between the actions of the many and the outcomes of the many.

What of WE in the United States that say we promote safety in the world and peace yet turn our backs on countries that have nothing to steal like minerals or oil. Did we stop the slaughter in the Sudan? Did we stop the massacres in Rhodesia or Somalia?

What with no oil or anything to plunder why help others?

These things you speak of go to the failings of mankind and not God. God shows us the right ways but it is up to us to get it done. Again I see we shirk responsibility and put the blame on the creator.

You might give to Feed The Children or World Vision as many do to try to alleviate that suffering instead of simply just notice it.

Thank You for these posts. They helped me define again for myself why it is I do believe in God. There are from time to time instances where I drift.. these postings correct my drift.

Thank You.

Well your quite welcome. Glad I could be of so much help. By the way, I never said anything about not believing in God. I just choose not to believe what other humans tell me to believe in, and that includes the childish nonsensical fairytales of Judeo Christianity.

Heimdhal
10th December 2012, 08:24 PM
For a guy who complains the jews are behind every rainy day and shitty feeling, it seems odd you would complain further that people deflect responsibility under the guise of a "master plan".








;)

General of Darkness
10th December 2012, 09:37 PM
For a guy who complains the jews are behind every rainy day and shitty feeling, it seems odd you would complain further that people deflect responsibility under the guise of a "master plan".








;)

Life is what you make it, but I remember my times dealing with Communism, a jewish construct and the one thing they always did was to grab the minds of the young so they could mold it so it best suited their interests.

Heimdhal
11th December 2012, 05:39 AM
Life is what you make it, but I remember my times dealing with Communism, a jewish construct and the one thing they always did was to grab the minds of the young so they could mold it so it best suited their interests.

Dont worry.... Heavens got a plan for you.

messianicdruid
11th December 2012, 06:10 AM
"For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope [expectation] that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now."

All is well. You are discussing the "tension in creation" that is soon to be resolved. You are to be commended for recognizing it and seeking understanding of it:

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/teachings/books/creations-jubilee/chapter-13-the-tension-in-creation/

10 Bears
11th December 2012, 06:45 AM
Well your quite welcome. Glad I could be of so much help. By the way, I never said anything about not believing in God. I just choose not to believe what other humans tell me to believe in, and that includes the childish nonsensical fairytales of Judeo Christianity.

No one is asking you to believe anything. But for your own peace you should develop a belief within you that allows you to act and focus in a way that affirms life itself instead of become permanently insulted by others thereby reducing your worth to yourself and others.

I cannot impress upon you any ideas or beliefs I hold dear.. I can only explain how I see things and yes you can reject it all just as I can reject your mindset. But you calling it childish only relates to me that you are bitter from your search..a search in which you appear to reject all answers.

You have a heavy cross to bear because of your mindset. You are not going to get me or anyone else to volunteer to take on that load fully supported by a mindset that does not even work for you.

Your arguments are illogical.

Since the beginning of mankind itself, man has sought a creator or a deeper meaning to life. ALL civilizations independently have sought a connection to all that is.

In the world today there are over 11,250 religions or subreligions which proves this quest. Man wants to know where he really came from and who or what is the Grand Poobah of it all.

Each belief is generally independent of all others since every thought pattern shows a uniqueness irrespective of what one is allied or not allied with.