Saber rattling time.

[osoab]

US nuclear test condemned by Iran, Japan (http://rt.com/news/us-nuclear-test-nevada-criticism-582/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)



Iran has strongly condemned the US for carrying out a nuclear test in Nevada this week, saying the move threatens world peace and shows a hypocritical set of double standards set by Washington when it comes to nuclear research.

*The Iranian Foreign Ministry said the Wednesday detonation proves that US foreign policy relies heavily on the use of nuclear weapons, disregarding UN calls for global disarmament, PressTV reports.

The experiment also drew criticism from Japan, with Hiroshima Mayor Kazumi Matsui wondering why the Obama administration carried out the test, despite saying he would “seek a nuclear-free world.”

The test proves that the US “could use nuclear weapons anytime,” said Hirotami Yamada, who heads the Nagasaki Atomic Bomb Survivors Council.

On Friday it was announced that the Nevada National Security Site had successfully detonated plutonium in a deep shaft Wednesday to test the safety and effectiveness of US nuclear weapons, National Nuclear Security Administration officials said.

The Pollux subcritical experiment was carried out by scientists at the Los Alamos, New Mexico national laboratory and the Sandia National Laboratories and involved a tiny sample of plutonium bomb material.

Subcritical nuclear experiments have been conducted in the US since 1997 in order to help scientists understand how plutonium ages in the stockpile.

They use chemical explosives to blow up bits of nuclear materials designed to stop just short of erupting into a nuclear chain reaction, also known as a criticality.

The latest test used new diagnostic equipment that enabled researchers to collect more data then ever before.

“This is a significant diagnostics advancement,” Darwin Morgan, spokesman for the Nevada National Nuclear Security Site, was quoted as saying by the Las Vegas Review Journal.

Officials claimed that the test was carried out to provide for the secure storage of nuclear warheads.

International inspectors were not allowed to witness the experiment, as Washington has prevented access to its test site since the late 1990s.

Wednesday's test is twenty-seventh American "subcritical experiment" since full-scale nuclear weapons tests were halted in 1992.


I guess we showed em, eh?

[Glass]

I'm wondering what youse showed them.


Subcritical nuclear experiments have been conducted in the US since 1997 in order to help scientists understand how plutonium ages in the stockpile.

They use chemical explosives to blow up bits of nuclear materials designed to stop just short of erupting into a nuclear chain reaction, also known as a criticality.

I've been getting a lot of correlations in the past few weeks across a lot of different sources of information. This article stands out like dogs cajoles to me.

In my thread on Harmonics (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65285-Harmonics-animal-magnetism-and-messmerism&highlight=harmonics) I'm dealing with the works of Cathie initially but there are other works I expect to join to that material. So far that information is from his 1st three books but mostly his 3rd. (It might be 1st 4 books and the 4th).

In books 2 and 3 he talks about the strong correlations he has discovered between the detonation of a nuclear device and the location this occurs as well as the relative time and position of the sun to the earth. According to his investigations you cannot simply explode a nuclear device willy nilly. You need to detonate at an exact moment and in a location at an exact distance from the suns position relative to earth. This means a specific distance from where the sun is directly overhead.

I am presently reading book 4 (or 5 the Harmonic Conquest of Space (http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=the+harminic+conquest+of+space&oq=the+harminic+conquest+of+space&gs_l=hp.3..0i13l2.1547.7600.0.7813.30.24.0.0.0.1.7 10.9593.3-10j4j6j1.21.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.Xr0Toq77aMQ&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=a14972394b5aa96&bpcl=39650382&biw=1440&bih=752)) of his work where he investigates various nuclear events including the 2 Japanese ones and some other tests events. From his mathematics and dicussions with FBI people he was able to confirm that you need all of these elements to come into alignment for a device to explode.

As a result he says, get the timing off and the device will not explode. Get it right and the thing goes boom.

So I question this test's outcome. It seems to me that they got the location time coordinates wrong and the event failed to materialise OR the tests are to determine a way that they could bend these apparent laws of physics and detonate a nuclear device at will. I'd suggest either way, they failed.

So I don't think this is true but they might be trying.

The test proves that the US “could use nuclear weapons anytime,” said Hirotami Yamada, who heads the Nagasaki Atomic Bomb Survivors Council.

This would also explain why the North Koreans almost got it, but not quite. Their timing was not exact enough. If this is true then it should be possible to plot the locations and times of any and all possible future nuclear events. I hope to post some of this material in the next few days. After I've finished reading and digesting it. But I have other correlations in his work with the work of others and even some ancient belief systems which look very interesting indeed.


Wednesday's test is twenty-seventh American "subcritical experiment" since full-scale nuclear weapons tests were halted in 1992.

27th failed event perhaps?

[midnight rambler]

This means a specific distance from where the sun is directly overhead.

The very first test, Trinity, was conducted before sunrise at 5:29AM.

[Cebu_4_2]

Now this is getting seriously interesting!

[Glass]

The very first test, Trinity, was conducted before sunrise at 5:29AM.

yes. No problem with that. The distance between the point the sun is shining on and the point where the detonation is to occur needs to be in harmony with the speed of light or perhaps with earths magnetic field. That is the basis of Bruce Cathies analysis. So with my limited grasp of what he says, if the distance between the two points is a number that resonates with the speed of light then they will get a detonation.

At 5.29 AM the Sun would not be all that far away in reality. It would not be on the other side of the planet. It doesn't have to shine on ground zero, just be a harmonic distance away.

This makes an interesting hisorical read about the Trinity event (http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/trinity/trinity1.html)for people who don't know much about it.

[Glass]

I think this is some comments and part of the introduction to the book this page is about.

It quotes him, but other than the quote there is no further information about nukes on that page. It does have some examples of what he is on about. Some example calcs. I kind of follow it but I am unsure how you would do this calcs yourself. There is also a diagram of what this grid he talks about would look like if we could see it.


"I realised that an all-out atomic war was an impossibility. Both sides could precalculate well in advance the time and positions of atomic attack. Plus the fact that only certain geometric locations could be detonated anyhow. A logical war cannot be considered under these circumstances. This could be the explanation for the proliferation of conventional weapons in modern warfare."

http://www.whale.to/m/cathie.html

I'll transcribe a couple sections of Chapter 3. Here he introduces an engineer who was interested in what he saw on the harbour. They spend some time investigating it, but it's not the main story. There's more.

in late 1969 I was contacted by an engineer who worked for the Ministry of Works in Auckland. He had been told of a sighting I had had of an unidentified undersea object in the Kaipara Harbour area just north-west of Auckland city, and wanted to get some details of the incident from me. It was his intention to check the area. The sighting was made years before on the 12th March 1965

They work for a while on the harbour investigation

The engineer continued to show an interest in my work and I had fairly close contact with him over a period of about 18 months. He visited me at home several times and I went twice to his flat in Parnell, Auckland city.

Later on in the book he comes back to this engineer guy. He states that this Engineer guy's flat was full of radio gear and the guy had a slight north american accent. US or Canadian.

Ok Meat and Potatoes

The engineer continued making the occasional phone call to discuss vaious aspects of my research and showed particular interest in my knowledge of the methods used to detonate an atom bomb. I had discovered, quite by accident, that the geometric coordinates and mathematical values found in the grid system were applicable to atom bomb tests. I had a hunch that some unified equations I discovered would have to be applied if the matter were to be disrupted. Einstien had stated that "the whole of our physical reality was manifested by the geometics of space and time", so it was logical to assume that if we wished to destroy matter then a reverse geometric process would have to be set up. In otherwords, the relative motions of the atomic structure would have to be reversed at an instant in time to unlock the geometrics of the physical substance.

So quite clearly atomic bombs are not like normal bombs. They don't just rearrange matter, they remove it from existance.


Thinking along these lines, I came to the conclusion that the relative motion between the Sun and the Earth at the critical time must have something to do with it, so I began to check the sun position at the time of atom tests and found to my surprise that the geometric harmonics were evident at the time of detonation. The movement of the Sun in relation to a particular point on the Earths' surface was the final trigger for the bomb.

So he published this info, somewhere and got a lot of flack. The engineer called him and proposed a test.

The engineer asked me if I would precalculate a bomb test for him in order to prove the point. I was a bit reluctant as my knowledge of the process was very basic and I knew I had been lucky to get away with some calculations I had carried out for other government departments................
<skipping a couple paragraphs>

The test he told me, was to be held on Amchitka Island in the Aleutian chain during the next month or so. Could I work out the date and the time?

I spent about 3 hours that evening working out every combination I could think of from a study of the sun tables covering the next few weeks, and came up with only one possible time according to my limited knowledge. Well go for broke, I thought, so I phoned him about 10:30 pm and passed on the information. He said he would contact me the next evening.

He called, as promised, and advised me that my calculations were not correct. I was obviously a bit disappointed but not too surprised, and said I could not find another date or time. If there were other possible times then I did not have the necessary knowledge to work them out. We left it at that.

Two days went by, then he called again. "You're right," he said. "If the bomb goes off, we will talk some more".

Three weeks went by and at 22:00 hours GMT on 6th November 1971 the bomb went off. This was during the morning in New Zealand. I was one hour out in my calculations which was not too bad, I thought, considering how little I knew of the process. I knew the phone had to ring and I waited expectantly all day.

At about 7:30 pm the call came. He congratulated me on the effort but seemed hesitant what to say next.

I chucked and said, "You have a problem."

What makes you say that?" he asked.

I replied, "Well I believe that you have to offer me a job."


Then he goes on about the accent and all the communications gear the guy had. engineer admits CIA, offers job, says all material wants met. Then Cathie thinks on it and says no thanks. Guy says good call, wish I didn't accept my job offer.

[Cebu_4_2]

Okay so a nuclear bomb can't be detonated but a small point and place in time. So I am wondering about the nuclear tipped rockets how they would work. Atom bombs are nuclear weapons but what about plutonium bombs and the sort? This stuff fascinates me but my brain has been dosed with much to much fluoride to piece it all together.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Does this apply for underground detonations too?

I read somewhere that nuclear weapons can be made to fill what was once a huge gap between the practical limits of the largest conventional explosives and the smallest nukes. Hence we have mini-, and micro- nukes. Nukes with yields as small as 10 tons. I have no doubt that these subcritical tests contribute greatly to the development of this small nuke technology. Eventually we will see soldiers being armed with nuclear hand grenades.


Hatha

[Ponce]

Hatha? that's something that I made one time...it looked like a hand dart that when you are ready to use it you would pull out the fins (this would activate the grenade) and you would simply throw it.... the distance that it would travel would be more than twice the distance traveled by a regular thrown hand grenade.......I did get a commendation letter from our Colonel on my jacket for this.....I did come out with another one that was use in VietNam but I can't talk about that one.

Hey Glass? I wished that I could write like you, I can see that you are one smart fellow.

[Glass]

Hey Glass? I wished that I could write like you, I can see that you are one smart fellow.

Thanks Ponce but remember Politicians can write well and none of them are smart. Also I'm just quoting Cathies' work.


Does this apply for underground detonations too?

I read somewhere that nuclear weapons can be made to fill what was once a huge gap between the practical limits of the largest conventional explosives and the smallest nukes. Hence we have mini-, and micro- nukes. Nukes with yields as small as 10 tons. I have no doubt that these subcritical tests contribute greatly to the development of this small nuke technology. Eventually we will see soldiers being armed with nuclear hand grenades.
Hatha

Some of the text I skipped in the big quote covered the question on positioning. Cathie surmises......


The bomb was constructed geometrically. At the instant of detonation, unstable matter within the bomb was imploded geometrically toward a central point - which guarranteeed that a certain percentage of the material was moving in a certain direction - and the relative movement of the Sun-Earth relationship completed the combination of movements to make the atomic structure fly apart.

Also to complete the pattern the bomb had to be set up on, over or below a certain geometric point on the Earth's surface.

This of course, made it a bit difficult if you wished to wage a nuclear war. Each bomb would have to be programmed for a certain place and detonated at a certain time. Of course, your enemy would have the same problem and both sides could compute in advance the positions the enemy could hit. Stalemate.

So the things I get from that are:

Successfully testing a nuclear device is not a deterent in the way of, well now we have the bomb and we will use it in retaliation. It's more a case of, now we have demonstrated we can detonate a bomb, all of you (the enemy) now know that we know how nuclear weapons work and we know you just can't set them off at will. It nueters the nuclear arsenal.

Cathie states that the speed of light is different at the various points on the surface of the earth, closer to the poles it's closer to the free space speed of light. We are only talking very small changes but these need to be calculated in. This also means that if you airburst, surface detonate or underground detonate, your position and timing will be minutely different for each type of explosion.

Then of course many of use will remember Mathew Broderick. Do you want to play a game?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=uCWKZWieMSY#t=18 0s

Remember this from minute 3 onwards: What is the primary goal?

Answer: To win the game.

What does WOPR learn? You can't win but not for the reason we believe although in this light, that movie might look a bit different now. oh and WOPR's name is Joshua.

And no I'm not a politician.