new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

[Cebu_4_2]

You just can't make this kind of shit up!

[PlatinumBlonde]

Notice anything else?? Hurricane SANDY and now shooting at SANDY Hook...

[Dogman]

Wonder if any of the near earth orbit asteroids are named Sandy?

[gunDriller]

Wonder if any of the near earth orbit asteroids are named Sandy?

not to be cynical, but i wouldn't be surprised if 'Sandy' was Obama's nickname, back when he was driving the Choom-wagon, in Hawaii -

pResident Barack "Sandy" Obama lighting up, preparing for his future arresting people for - lighting up.
http://azizonomics.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/blunt.jpg?w=540&h=360

the "Choom-wagon", a real life version of the VW bus in "Fast Times at Ridgemont High". since it was in Hawaii - near the beach - it had to have been sandy -
http://azizonomics.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/enhanced-buzz-25017-1337106119-1.jpg?w=540&h=405


which proves nothing, other than documenting my contempt for the pResident.

[Horn]

Sandy Hook is on the map in The Dark Knight Rises Batman movie

But wouldn't that be Sandy Hook N.J. which is directly below Gotham N.Y.C.?

[BrewTech]

But that wouldn't that be Sandy Hook N.J. which is directly below Gotham N.Y.C.?

Dammit, quit screwing with our conspiracies!

[JDRock]

were fooked in so many ways....the walls are closing in...the water is beginning to boil.....they will strike first in the cities, then the suburbs....it will be lightning fast...brother will betray brother...neighbor will rat on neighbor.....i cannot stress geography as being essential to survival. Id rather be in free America without preps, than in the cities or suburbs all prepped.

[sirgonzo420]

The Sandy Hook Elementary incident took place in Newtown, Connecticut.

That being said, the Universe is still the strangest place there is.

[JohnQPublic]

The Sandy Hook Elementary incident took place in Newtown, Connecticut.

That being said, the Universe is still the strangest place there is.

The strangest place I've ever lived!

[osoab]

Dammit, quit screwing with our conspiracies!

Yes, but why would the Sandy Hook be handwritten?

[jimswift]

"Dark Knight Rising"

[Libertytree]

Maybe its not the movie by itself? There's also a video game and both the Co shooter and the school shooter played those type of games reportedly. I wonder if there's a correlation or some type of mind fuck that some mentally unstable people are succeptable to?

[Dogman]

Maybe its not the movie by itself? There's also a video game and both the Co shooter and the school shooter played those type of games reportedly. I wonder if there's a correlation or some type of mind fuck that some mentally unstable people are succeptable to?

Unfortunately I can see a correlation between some shooting games and (some) people that are unstable or are borderline wackos. They get wrapped up into the fantasy alternate worlds/universe that the games provide. Then the seed is or maybe planted, that in the real world something triggers them into turning those games into a real life horror show.

Best guess, and I think there is some truth in this.

[Neuro]

not to be cynical, but i wouldn't be surprised if 'Sandy' was Obama's nickname, back when he was driving the Choom-wagon, in Hawaii -

pResident Barack "Sandy" Obama lighting up, preparing for his future arresting people for - lighting up.
http://azizonomics.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/blunt.jpg?w=540&h=360

the "Choom-wagon", a real life version of the VW bus in "Fast Times at Ridgemont High". since it was in Hawaii - near the beach - it had to have been sandy -
http://azizonomics.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/enhanced-buzz-25017-1337106119-1.jpg?w=540&h=405


which proves nothing, other than documenting my contempt for the pResident.
It was noted by numerous alphabet soup agencies....
http://fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/alphabet-soup.jpg

[Horn]

Yes, but why would the Sandy Hook be handwritten?

Its unconscious human psychic numbered coincidence. (Relevant-less)

Same thing happened in Aurora with the "wrapper's" video & the 12 skeletons in theatre seats.

Regardless it is the CFO high level banking connection that is most relevant, in these unbelievable cases.

A reverse hand Clockwork Orange torture, if you will.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_yVRZMFbLc&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEyCvATh9-M

[Shami-Amourae]

Potential leaked footage of the shooting:
http://altmedia.tv/video/1186/Sandy-Hook-Elementary-School-Shooting#

It's been scrubbed from YouTube so goodluck finding it till shit dies down.

[midnight rambler]

Potential leaked footage of the shooting:
http://altmedia.tv/video/1186/Sandy-Hook-Elementary-School-Shooting#

It's been scrubbed from YouTube so goodluck finding it till shit dies down.

I recognize this as the video from an incident in Detroit where a shooter burst into a satellite cop shop and opened fire on the cops behind the front desk.

[PatColo]

Speaking Of School Shootings, Remember This? (http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Jews/+Doc-Jews-Crime&Fraud&QuestionablePractices/ColumbineWasAJewishOp.htm) General (http://www.prothink.org/category/gen/) 3 Responses » (http://www.prothink.org/2012/12/16/speaking-of-school-shootings-remember-this/#comments)

Dec 162012

[joboo]

SANDY = 19 1 14 4 25 = 63 which is the total # of Talmudic tractates in the six books of the Mishna

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mishnah)The first major work of Rabbinic Judaism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbinic_literature).

:cool:

Top that shit...

[midnight rambler]

I was talking with someone about an hour about who was telling me of a video which showed the AR-15 being taken out of the shooter's car - anyone see that??

[PatColo]

remember this nice lady? 5.5 mins, if you're impatient advance to 4:00,

Dr. Suzanna Hupp Testimony Before Congress on the 2nd Amendment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEJFAvA-ZUE)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEJFAvA-ZUE


couple good podcasts discussing. Giuliani is 101% sure this was a scam.

Truth Hertz with Charles Giuliani 2012.12.17 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/12/truth-hertz-with-charles-giuliani_17.html)



http://www.oraclebroadcasting.com/images/charles.jpg (http://www.oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?who=Truth_Hertz)
Connecticut shooting.

Archive (http://www.oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?who=Truth_Hertz)
Show Notes (http://truthhertz.weebly.com/)

64k CF Download (http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/sxxmh4o05q/truth_hertz_with_charles_giuliani_2012.12.17.mp3)


Dennis Fetcho, Inside the Eye Live 2012.12.17 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/12/dennis-fetcho-inside-eye-live-20121217.html)


http://www.oraclebroadcasting.com/images/Fetch_Bio.gif (http://www.oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?who=Dennis_Fetcho) Dennis Fetcho, aka "The Fetch", is an American ex-patriot living in Amman, Jordan. He is the author of the Illuminatus Observor (http://illuminatusobservor.blogspot.com/), a blog regarded by many as simply the finest Hermetic Qaballa blog in all of blogdom. The Fetch also has a second site called"Inside The Eye Live.com (http://insidetheeyelive.com/)"
Intelligent media for the politically aware.

No guest: Commentary on mass shootings and their consequences.





64k CF Download (http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/2hl81kzdwa/fetcho.2012.12.17.mp3)

[PatColo]

If SANDY HOOK And AURORA Are
BOTH In The Dark Knight Rising...
What Are The Odds?

http://rense.com/general95/hook%201.jpg
12-17-12










In the Batman movie "The Dark Knight Rises" there is a scene where the word 'AURORA' shows in bright RED LETTERS on a tall building. We have not personally seen the film and cannot validate this scene as actually being in it. We would appreciate any input and a video freeze frame from The Dark Knight proving Aurora name on a high-rise
does, indeed, appear.
There is a second scene where they are looking at a map where a major crime is expected to happen. Someone then points to the map where the expected crime is going to occur...and puts his fingers right under the words 'Sandy Hook'.

The global evil running this planet are known to often telegraph their plans in advance... a smug and arrogant mocking laugh at the helpless, hapless sheep. Is this such an act? Or just a coincidence or misinformation?



http://rense.com/general95/auroradarknight.jpg Here is a freeze frame of the purported 'Dark Knight' scene with
AURORA in bright red lights on top of a tall building...
HOWEVER, the AURORA is also seen in the current James Bond release, 'Skyfall'. Here is a freeze frame at :41 seconds of the trailer at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24mTIE4D9JM
http://rense.com/1.imagesH/aur2.jpg


http://rense.com/general95/sandy1.jpg

There is another scene in the film where they are looking at a map. On the lower left of that map is Sandy Hook. Here is a freeze frame of that scene...



http://rense.com/general95/sandy2.jpg

Here is a freeze frame when the actor puts his finger RIGHT ON SANDY HOOK....



http://rense.com/general95/hook%202.jpg

New, here is an enlargement of the map in that scene
clearly showing what appears to read 'Sandy Hook'...



Watch the following video for more on this
controversial subject racing around the net
SANDY HOOK And AURORA Are BOTH In The Dark Knight Rising (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr2SHssCaWM) - Vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr2SHssCaWM

Notes... 1. In the blockbuster movie Matrix...released in 1999...the lead character Neo's passport expired on 9-11-2001.

2. The AURORA is Shanghai's Aurora Plaza. Shanghai is a major motion picture venue and may have been used to create part of the Gotham City skyline. We have not seen the film
For more about the Aurora Plaza http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_Plaza

3. Several have written in and noted the coincidence of Hurricane Sandy's $50 billion disaster and the name Sandy Hook.



http://rense.com/general95/sandyaurora.html

[PatColo]

Kevin Barrett - he published this 12/14, day of alleged shooting!

Who really killed the Connecticut children? (http://truthjihad.com/news/?p=227)

Posted on December 14, 2012 (http://truthjihad.com/news/?p=227) by kbarrett (http://truthjihad.com/news/?author=2)
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/000gladio2-320x248.jpg

When something unbelievably evil happens in one of our schools, like the recent murder of 27 children and teachers at the Newtown School in Connecticut, the media always tells us the same thing: blame the lone nut(s).


But history suggests that many if not most schoolyard massacres, like other large-scale acts of domestic terrorism, have a much more sinister agenda.


Sheriff Pat Sullivan, who ran the Columbine investigation, was arrested last year and convicted of coercing sexual favors from a child in exchange for methamphetamine. His ridiculously short sentence, served in the jail that bears his name, amounted to a slap on the wrist. Rumor has it that Sullivan is part of a pedophile network along the lines of the Finders of Lost Children and the perpetrators of the Franklin Scandal child sex ring.


Some Columbine victims’ family members suspect that Sheriff Sullivan was involved in a “butt rape” incident (http://columbinefamilyrequest.org/2011/03/walsh-butt-rape-sheriff-pat-sullivan/)involving the alleged Columbine shooters. Were those shooters mind-controlled sex-abuse victims?


Rogue intelligence agents and their psychiatrist colleagues have been brainwashing “lone nuts” to commit murder at least since the CIA’s MK-Ultra program achieved its objectives circa 1960.


Why would such “rogue networks” want to send brainwashed Manchurian Candidates into schools to massacre children?
Let’s allow one of the terrorists themselves to answer that question.


Remember Operation Gladio (http://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio)? The Pentagon, through NATO, organized bombings and shootings in the streets of Europe. When one of the terrorists got caught, he explained at his trial (http://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio#The_Strategy_of_Tension): “You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public to turn to the State to ask for greater security.” He later explained the “strategy of tension” to the BBC: “To create tension within the country to promote conservative, reactionary social and political tendencies.”


Google “Brabant massacre” for more gory details.


So the answer to the question, WHY? is really very simple: When you terrorize the population, you open the door for fascist, authoritarian politicians.


Operation Gladio never ended. It’s still happening, right here in America.


Wade Michael Page, the “man with a 9/11 tattoo” blamed for the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting, turned out to be a US Army psy-ops specialist (http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/afp/shooting-suspect-was-us-army-psy-ops-specialist-pentagon/535983).


The “DC Sniper” (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/07/10/forgotten-terror-the-dc-sniper-another-government-false-flag/) – the US Army Special Forces whiz who changed his name to “Muhammad” just in time to go on a shooting spree – was another government-sponsored false-flag operation.


So whenever an event like today’s Connecticut massacre screams out at you from your screen: BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID, you should tell the mainstream media brainwashers to go to hell, then join those of us who are exposing the false flag terrorists and setting the stage for a world in which they will no longer ply their bloody trade.


http://truthjihad.com/news/?p=227

[Glass]

Truth Hertz with Charles Giuliani 2012.12.17 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/12/truth-hertz-with-charles-giuliani_17.html)

This guys got a serious case of cynicsm.....

[Glass]

Gulf of Mexico - Deepwater Horizon
Louisiana - Cyclone Katrina
Colorado - Columnbine
Conneticut - Sandy Hook
Florida - ????

Whats Florida? Any ideas?

[PatColo]

John Friend & Charlie Giuliani discuss the disparities in the official narrative for the first 35 mins in this show,

Truth Militia Radio with John Friend 2012.12.17 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/12/truth-militia-radio-with-john-friend_17.html)

https://truthmilitia.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/truthhertzlogo.jpg (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-truth-militia/)
On this edition of Truth Militia Radio with John Friend (http://johnfriendsblog.blogspot.com/), we’ll be joined by Charles Giuliani of Truth Hertz Radio (http://oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?who=truth_hertz) on Oracle Broadcasting Network. Charlie and John will be discussing Christianity, Ancient History, Racial Issues, and many of the most controversial issues in the “Truth Movement”.
John Friend's Blog (http://johnfriendsblog.blogspot.ca/)
Truth Militia Radio (http://truthmilitia.com/)
Archive (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-truth-militia)




Download mp3 (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-truth-militia/2012/12/18/truth-militia-radio-with-john-friend.mp3)

[PatColo]

Truth Hertz with Charles Giuliani 2012.12.17 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/12/truth-hertz-with-charles-giuliani_17.html)

This guys got a serious case of cynicsm.....

wanna hear Giuliani go off on some joo caller? advance to 11:55 of this: #3 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63955-Agenda-21-show-on-C2C-tonight-9-29-2012&p=576978&viewfull=1#post576978)

[Shami-Amourae]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmCTRUiidxw

[Glass]

Retraction And Apology
An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the school's principal, Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the Friday morning attack. The quote was removed from subsequent online versions of the story, but the original story did remain in our online archive for three days before being deleted.

We apologize for whatever confusion this may have caused our readers and for any pain or anguish it may have cause the Hochsprung family.


New Town Bee (http://newtownbee.com/)

I'm posting this because it's bought up in the Truth Hertz show that MSM had published an interview about the shooting, with someone who actually died in it. The Schools head mistress. Not a pre planned story they pulled after finding the subject was killed. Mistaken identity.

[sunshine05]

New Town Bee (http://newtownbee.com/)

I'm posting this because it's bought up in the Truth Hertz show that MSM had published an interview about the shooting, with someone who actually died in it. The Schools head mistress. Not a pre planned story they pulled after finding the subject was killed. Mistaken identity.

Someone got their script wrong.

[osoab]

Israeli death squads involved in Sandy Hook bloodbath: Intelligence analyst (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/) :o

[General of Darkness]

Israeli death squads involved in Sandy Hook bloodbath: Intelligence analyst (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/) :o

Excellent find.

Here's the interview.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3fTEZ4IVU

[Horn]

Excellent find.

Here's the interview.

Not a bad exchange, I believe all those (even arguing) were correct...

Only to add that even the mandatory healthcare and social security being instituted across the entire planet,

is a threat of death violence if you do not comply...

[Blink]

Israeli death squads involved in Sandy Hook bloodbath: Intelligence analyst (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/) :o

So this guy states that its in retaliation for America's (Obama) throwing Israhell under the bus on Gaza? If America knows this, why don't they just go beat the sh*t outta them and be done with it? America is "afraid" of Israhell? Come on. Then it states, "its the same as the children of Norway". Wow, if everyone knows Israhell is killing their children, don't yah think something would be done about it, laws be damned. What a circus.........

[palani]

http://www.examiner.com/article/libor-scandal-grows-as-the-fathers-of-two-mass-murderers-were-to-testify?cid=rss

Libor scandal grows as the fathers of two mass murderers were to testify


In the wake of the mass murders that took place in Newtown, Connecticut on Dec. 14, information on the shooter, and his family, is slowly being discovered by law enforcement other sources. One interesting connection to the tragedy that took place at the Sandy Hook school is that the father of Adam Lanza has a connection to the theater shootings that took place in Aurora earlier this year by James Holmes.

Both fathers of the shooters were allegedly expected to testify in the Libor scandal that rocked the banking world in June.

The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested.

Libor is the internal banking interest rate that major financial institutions determine each day for lending purposes between each facility. This rate is then translated to the interest rates used for mortgages, student loans, credit cards, and nearly every interest bearing loan in the world. Manipulation of the Libor rate has resulted in hundreds of billions, if not trillions of dollars in fraudulent payments made by billions of customers throughout the financial world.

For similar events on the magnitude of both Aurora and Newtown to hold a connection to one of the greatest financial scandals in the history of finance is astronomically slim in regards to coincidence. In fact, neither shooter had a history with firearm proficiency, and the outcome of each shooting showed an expertise many trained military personnel could not achieve. This leaves the question of where they got their training, or if there was another plot involved which allowed these young men to perform the actions they did with such precision.

While the coming days will bring forth more pertinent information on the motives, access, and failures of both community and family to diagnose the events leading up to Adam Lanza's killing spree, one thing is becoming disturbingly clear. The connections between the Aurora massacre, and the one that took place in Newtown on Friday, may have far more ramifications to the people involved in the Libor scandal than anyone could imagine.

[Horn]

http://www.examiner.com/article/libor-scandal-grows-as-the-fathers-of-two-mass-murderers-were-to-testify?cid=rss

Libor scandal grows as the fathers of two mass murderers were to testify

CNN only seems to be focused on Redcoat gun removal laws.

The "Fiscal Cliff" has even vanished.

[Glass]

http://www.examiner.com/article/libor-scandal-grows-as-the-fathers-of-two-mass-murderers-were-to-testify?cid=rss

Libor scandal grows as the fathers of two mass murderers were to testify

there's a fair bit going on about this. Not sure what to make of it. This source is not ideal IMO but the Keiser crew do get a bit ferral if people expouse a different view on certain things. Climate change for instance is 100% your fault. So how true is this:


IN FACT, YOU CAN MAKE IT UP. THIS IS A BIG HOAX STORY ORIGINATING FROM SORCHA FAAL
http://maxkeiser.com/2012/12/17/mass-shootings-connected-to-libor-scandal/


UPDATE: Senate Banking Aide confirms (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/12/newtown-libor-hunger-games-theories.php) that neither of these parents were ever scheduled to testify.
Link to the source (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/12/newtown-libor-hunger-games-theories.php)

I'm not sure about trusting either of these two sources.

[vacuum]

Israeli death squads involved in Sandy Hook bloodbath: Intelligence analyst (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/) :o

wow....

Maybe this is why they didn't immediately remove the bodies? Maybe they really did need to gather evidence.

[Horn]

If the "High Level Credit Scoring Job Position" connection is not being broadcast by MSM,

I'd say the evidence is rather conclusive to collusion.

[JohnQPublic]

I have yet to see any independent evidence of this in either case. Fabian 4 Liberty walking through some town at night filming himself and saying it does not convince me. I am open to the possibility, but without a shred of evidence, see no reason to consider it.

Found this (http://occupycorporatism.com/no-viable-connection-between-peter-lanza-us-senate-libor-hearings/), but the link does not seem to work:

"The originator (https://boards.4chan.org/x/res/11557994) of the unqualified information about Lanza and LIBOR appears to be a member of the CIA-controlled and NSA-sponsored nameless, faceless hacker group Anonymous. Again, there are no citations provided that back-up these allegations, but that is not the point when disinformation is being spread across the alternative media circuit."

[Horn]

wow....

Maybe this is why they didn't immediately remove the bodies? Maybe they really did need to gather evidence.

It would have to be done in places that the locals were completely subjugated to the Feds.

How do they hide this from the cameras?

Call it a matter of National Security, and threaten collusion with terrorism if failing to comply.

[Horn]

I have yet to see any independent evidence of this in either case. Fabian 4 Liberty walking through some town at night filming himself and saying it does not convince me. I am open to the possibility, but without a shred of evidence, see no reason to consider it.

Their job positions are publicly available?

[JohnQPublic]

Their job positions are publicly available?

I don't question their job poisitions (and I find it interesting that banker's kids appear to be mass murderers, so I do see that something is happening within the establishment order), but that they were to testify on LIBOR before congress does not appear to be supported.

[Horn]

I don't question their job poisitions (and I find it interesting that banker's kids appear to be mass murderers, so I do see that something is happening within the establishment order), but that they were to testify on LIBOR before congress does not appear to be supported.

Which is the additional "glaze" to the conspiracy cake, as was the "alien weapons" angle in 911.

Is that the point you are making?

The fact that they both worked for major credit scoring companies, isn't enough to investigate further. Someone needs to push it out of truth.

[Glass]

Their job positions are publicly available?

I've seen the mother's profile linked on here. She was consult to JP Morgan IIRC. I also heard in the Truth Hertz program she was involved in game development for Darpa. No links to anything supporting that so far. I haven't seen anything on his employment yet although everyone agrees it's GE Finance.

Anyway the finance angle suggests people are knowing too much. Perhaps they would have contributed to Libor investigations in the future. Or maybe they already did and got found out.

[Mouse]

I have a great deal of difficulty understanding how a tax accountant (VP or otherwise) for GE ENERGY Financial Services (energy trading/generation asset arm of GE) would have any cause to testify about the LIBOR scandal. GEFS is not a rating agency and does not have enough pull to impact global finance. Whether his prior role as partner at E&Y could put him in some role with the big NY IB's is quite possible, but again, he is a TAX guy. What the hell would he know about it? Nothing, that's what. This coming from someone who knows a couple things about GEFS in Stamford.

[Horn]

I have a great deal of difficulty understanding how a tax accountant (VP or otherwise) for GE ENERGY Financial Services (energy trading/generation asset arm of GE) would have any cause to testify about the LIBOR scandal. GEFS is not a rating agency and does not have enough pull to impact global finance. Whether his prior role as partner at E&Y could put him in some role with the big NY IB's is quite possible, but again, he is a TAX guy. What the hell would he know about it? Nothing, that's what. This coming from someone who knows a couple things about GEFS in Stamford.

Maybe its just the official title, and the side job is where they get pull from.

Either way its a one in a million coincidence, which would be standard form to investigate.

[PatColo]

Truth Hertz with Charles Giuliani 2012.12.17 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/12/truth-hertz-with-charles-giuliani_17.html)

This guys got a serious case of cynicsm.....

you'll love his rant from this mornings show - < 6 mins, NSFW!!

Rant Download (http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/ddgdn6wwwx/giuliani_rant_2012.12.18.mp3)

whole show: 64k CF Download (http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/8kc7w03xi6/truth_hertz_with_charles_giuliani_2012.12.18.mp3)

[PatColo]

@ Makow:

More Massacres Until Gun Laws Enacted - Insider (http://www.henrymakow.com/insider-shootings-will.html)
Newtown: Two Shooters Were Captured Alive! (http://www.henrymakow.com/whos-really-to-blame-for-school-shooting.html)

[Glass]

I have a great deal of difficulty understanding how a tax accountant (VP or otherwise) for GE ENERGY Financial Services (energy trading/generation asset arm of GE) would have any cause to testify about the LIBOR scandal. GEFS is not a rating agency and does not have enough pull to impact global finance. Whether his prior role as partner at E&Y could put him in some role with the big NY IB's is quite possible, but again, he is a TAX guy. What the hell would he know about it? Nothing, that's what. This coming from someone who knows a couple things about GEFS in Stamford.

I think GE Finance is the largest consumer finance provider in the world aren't they? Most stuff sold down here is sold with GE finance.

[sunshine05]

Another strange thing, very much like 9/11. Check out the amount of people interviewed for this article - 1 day following the shooting. And the comments seems so contrived. They are really trying hard to sell this, to make the people seem real, trying TOO hard. This is not the article you would expect to read 24 hours after a massacre!

Heroism no surprise to those who knew slain principal

Yamiche Alcindor, USA TODAY2:34p.m. EST December 15, 20127 CommentsShare


Sandy Hook Elementary School principal Dawn Hochsprung was a people person, and passionate about education.




NEWTOWN, Conn. — News that Sandy Hook Elementary School principal Dawn Hochsprung confronted the gunman during the Friday rampage at her school didn't surprise her former neighbors in nearby Woodbury.
Town officials say Hochsprung, who died in the shootings at the school, was killed while lunging at the gunman as she tried to overtake him. (Who does that unless they are armed?! Not buying it!)

FULL COVERAGE: Connecticut school shootings (http://www.usatoday.com/topic/a5877aa8-a9a0-4dfa-b14d-9dc8549e43e0/connecticut-shooting-victims/)

"I would expect her to jump right into the chaos," said neighbor Judith Neukam. "I think she would have felt responsible for it and she would have taken that responsibility."

She said that Hochsprung and her husband, George, were kind neighbors who once helped out when Neukam's elderly mother fell on ice. Neukam said she lived near them for eight years.
Education was her passion, and Hochsprung frequently tweeted photos from her job and wrote upbeat tweets about what was going on at the school.


In her last tweet before she died, Hochsprung described a non-fiction book preview she had set up for her staff and took a photo of the picture books arrayed on a table. The day before, she praised her fourth-graders for their holiday concert. Four days before she died, she posted a photo of two kindergarten girls paying for groceries over a toy cash register in a classroom. She called them "kinders" and saw them as "74 new opportunities to inspire lifelong learning!" More hauntingly, several publications reported, she wrote a letter before the school year outlining new safety measures including locked doors during school hours, and tweeted a photo of students who had been evacuated from the building during a safety drill earlier in the school year.


"I don't think you could find a more positive place to bring students to every day," she told The Newtown Bee newspaper in 2010 in a story about the hiring of new administrators in the district.

Board of Education chairwoman Debbie Liedlien said administrators were coming out of a meeting when the gunman forced his way into the school, and they ran toward him. (???)


Jeff Capeci is chairman of the town's Legislative Council. Asked whether Hochsprung is a hero, he said, "From what we know, it's hard to classify her as anything else."

Hochsprung had worked at the school for two years. Liedlien and Capeci said she immediately became a beloved figure.

Liedlien said residents are feeling "a deep sense of loss" over her death.


Several of Hochsprung's former neighbors in Woodbury described her and her husband as active people who hosted parties had a passion for education, and had planned to retire in a house they built near their former Woodbury condominium.


Neighbors who still live in Woodlake Condominiums offered kind words. They described Dawn Hochsprung as a woman who had long worked in Connecticut school systems.
Bernardo De Castro, 39, lived next door to the Hochsprungs for more than six years. He said reports that the principal acted heroically sound like the woman he knew.

"She had a very strong presence," he said. "She was very frank. She had strong opinions. I'm not surprised she stepped out of the office when she heard something was going on."

De Castro said the Hochsprungs sold their condo and moved to the house last summer. He said that he knew Dawn Hochsprung for about eight years and that she had two daughters and at least one grandchild.


"She was an active person," De Castro said. "She and George were always helping and engaged. They were always remodeling the house — doing it themselves." He added that the couple snowshoed in the winters and kayaked in the summers. They hosted parties during the holidays and invited people over for dinner, he said. "They were great hosts. They would have a lot of food," (seriously?!)De Castro said.

De Castro, a teacher himself, said Dawn Hochsprung worked in the Connecticut school system for several years. She was first a teacher, then an assistant principal at Roger Parks Middle School, then a principal at Woodbury Elementary. Later she moved on to Newtown. "She seemed to be on an upward trajectory," De Castro said. "She was working tirelessly and was extremely dedicated to her work. She was driven and very accomplished in her profession. We lost someone incredible for the educational community in Connecticut." Her husband is equally as passionate about education, neighbors said.

De Castro said George Hochsprung was once teacher of the year in nearby Danbury.


Family friend Fraser Randolph, 60, of Danbury, said the couple often talked about educational policies over dinner with him. He knew Dawn Hochsprung for more than 15 years.

"She was always talking about education — always looking for ways to solve problems, communicate better with parents and break down administrative barriers to better serve the needs of kids," Randolph said. He added that George Hochsprung has been a Danbury teacher for more than 30 years, and currently works at Rogers Park Middle School. George Hochsprung also ran for the school board, Neukam said.

Woodlake Condominiums is a small complex surrounded by woods whose tall, grayish trees match the color of the homes. Dawn Hochsprung and her husband planted trees and shrubs in the common area between the condos. The plants and bushes remained after they moved, a permanent reminder of the neighbors, De Castro and Neukam said.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/15/dawn-hochsprung-sandy-hook/1771487/

[JohnQPublic]

I think GE Finance is the largest consumer finance provider in the world aren't they? Most stuff sold down here is sold with GE finance.

They used to be one of the biggest derivative traders around (GE Finance). Not sure about today, nor how energy fits in.

[Blink]

you'll love his rant from this mornings show - < 6 mins, NSFW!!

Rant Download (http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/ddgdn6wwwx/giuliani_rant_2012.12.18.mp3)

whole show: 64k CF Download (http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/8kc7w03xi6/truth_hertz_with_charles_giuliani_2012.12.18.mp3)

I think the LEO's threat on "disinfo" must of affected the other site because their whole thread on the Conn. shootings has disappeared and the OP states that "he" didn't move or delete it. Someone/thing did.........

[Horn]

I think GE Finance is the largest consumer finance provider in the world aren't they? Most stuff sold down here is sold with GE finance.

They've opened up shop here in C.R. too.

Kinda like those old jewish "Money Stores" across north east U.S.

[jimswift]

the other site because their whole thread on the Conn. shootings has disappeared and the OP states that "he" didn't move or delete it. Someone/thing did.........

They are clueless over there about what happened and are reaching for answers. Yet, over here, this thread and others are still up. I guess they forgot or didn't get the memo about the owners of that site?

[PatColo]

Jeff Rense Radio Show - 2012.12.18 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/12/jeff-rense-radio-show-20121218.html)

Hour 2 - Jon Rappoport (http://nomorefakenews.com/) - Sandy Hook (43 mins comm free)
Listen (http://www.talkshoe.com/resources/talkshoe/images/swf/lastEpisodePlayer.swf?fileUrl=http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/psjx660x87/rense.20121218.2of3.mp3)
Download

(http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/psjx660x87/rense.20121218.2of3.mp3)

[lapis]

Here's another interesting angle:


Adam Lanza was a vegan
"He didn't want to hurt animals"
http://www.salon.com/2012/12/17/adam_lanza_was_a_vegan/

I didn't watch the video so I don't know how long he was a vegan, but a long thin face like his can be a sign of malnourishment or "physical degeneration" that nutrition researcher Weston Price often wrote about.

[PatColo]

^^ Rappoport gives high odds of an exec order re gun control... Rense agrees, gives it 70% odds.

separately, from Gordon "40% disinfo (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63717-UFO-War-Chinese-and-US-Navy-off-San-Francisco&p=588014&viewfull=1#post588014)" Duff,
Press TV: School killings, first shock, then blame and conspiracy (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/17/press-tv-school-killings-first-shock-then-blame-and-conspiracy/)

[Horn]

^^ Rappoport gives high odds of an exec order re gun control... Rense agrees, gives it 70% odds.

separately, from Gordon "40% disinfo (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63717-UFO-War-Chinese-and-US-Navy-off-San-Francisco&p=588014&viewfull=1#post588014)" Duff,
Press TV: School killings, first shock, then blame and conspiracy (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/17/press-tv-school-killings-first-shock-then-blame-and-conspiracy/)




Congresswoman Michelle Bachman of Minnesota equates violence in schools with “Jihadi lunches.” Bachman pointed out that schools that served “terrorist lunches” that included falafel or hummus, substances she believes likely to draw down the “wrath of god,” are responsible.

C'mon did she really say that?

[Hatha Sunahara]

Referencing Cebu's post #247 on this thread--I have at least two more questions about this event.

First, I saw an interview with someone in the local Coroner's office at Newtown who said all the children he examined were shot multiple times. Paul Craig Roberts in a recent video says the same thing, but that they were shot with rifle bullets at close range--not handgun bullets. How can a 20 year old shooter with handguns only shoot 20 kids, each multiple times, in two classrooms. Wouldn't that take quite some time, and would the kids not have to be restrained in order to not run away as they saw their fellow kids get shot?

And second, how many people are involved in this incident, either as participants or witnesses? 20 Kids and 7 adults plus the shooter. Then there is the school staff who survived, all the other kids that survived, the families of the kids that were killed, the families of the adults that were killed, all the police, the coroner's office, and many many more. It looks like hundreds of people are involved in this story. If the story is fake, and no bodies or pictures of bodies are available, and there is suppression of evidence of other possible shooters, how can that many people go along with the story? Are all the cops corrupt? Is everybody who doesn't go along with the official story afraid of ending up dead themselves? How can you fabricate a story with this many people involved without somebody screwing it up by saying something they are not supposed to say? Can the media direct everybody's attention away from inconvenient facts so easily?

I got the same sense about 911. Nobody in the MSM asked any questions about the planes flying into steel buildings, or the buildings subsequently spontaneously turning into microscopic sized dust particles. Nobody asking why there were pools of molten metal under the buildings that stayed molten for weeks if not months? Nobody investigating this.

Is there going to be an investigation of this school shooting? Will the investigation be made public? Will there be any answers to the 31 questions in Cebu's post? That post came from Veterans Today article by Kevin Barrett at this URL:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/17/questions-about-the-connecticut-school-shooting/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=questions-about-the-connecticut-school-shooting

How many judges and lawyers will get dragged into maintaining the official story and suppressing answers to these questions? Who gains from this shooting? Who stands to lose from it? Or is it all Voodoo?

Hatha

[Glass]

I'd go with everyone being told not to discuss it because there is going to be a coroners investigation. Thats the same as a 911 commission. Who's our favourite coroner? will they ship him in for this one?

Refering back to the Truth hertz program, unverified claim, there were 6 eyewitnesses to Columnbine who testified multiple shooters, not 2, multiple. Claim is, testimony not heard. All 6 are dead. It was over a decade ago. I don't know who the witnesses were or their age. It's possible they fell of the perch, but if they weren't that old, it would be a stretch for 6. IF 27 is easy peasy in this environment, more is not going to be a big deal.

[madfranks]

I was working outside listening to the radio on the day of the shooting, I heard the accounts as they were reported, saying two shooters, one in custody, one on the loose. Then they reported finding a man in the woods. Now it's like that never happened, there was never two shooters, only one.

[sirgonzo420]

I was working outside listening to the radio on the day of the shooting, I heard the accounts as they were reported, saying two shooters, one in custody, one on the loose. Then they reported finding a man in the woods. Now it's like that never happened, there was never two shooters, only one.

Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.

[Santa]

All the worlds a stage and News is theater. Theater is produced, scripted, directed, acted out, promoted and performed.
The Romans had coliseums. The Colonies had theaters. The New World Order has News and Entertainment.
It's keeps us focused on the worlds stage.

[gunDriller]

what if - Adam Lanza had walked into the House of Representatives with those guns ?

[madfranks]

what if - Adam Lanza had walked into the House of Representatives with those guns ?

They need to make the House a gun free zone so that can never happen.

[midnight rambler]

Alleged shooter's car was registered to someone besides Nancy Lanza, instead registered to a felon (scroll down to bottom of page) - http://spitfirelist.com/news/the-camo-pants-coincidence-in-newtown-ct-part-2-the-mystery-is-solved-except-it-isnt/

[learn2swim]

It would help to know the felon's name.

[Cebu_4_2]

And the license plate is the same on Lanzas car and the parents car of the gingerbread girl... hmmph.

[midnight rambler]

It would help to know the felon's name.

It's in the article I linked to.

[Cebu_4_2]

Geezus:

Christo*pher Rodia, 42, of Vollmer Avenue in Nor*walk was charged with third-degree lar*ceny, third-degree con*spir*acy to com*mit lar*ceny, first-degree crim*i*nal mis*chief, third-degree crim*i*nal tres*pass, pos*ses*sion of nar*cotics and fail*ure to carry pre*scrip*tion drugs in pre*scribed con*tainer. Rodia’s bond was set at $10,000 and he is sched*uled to appear Aug. 7 in Nor*walk Supe*rior Court.
Cas*san*dre Scire, 19, also of Vollmer Avenue in Nor*walk, was charged with third-degree lar*ceny, third-degree con*spir*acy to com*mit lar*ceny and third-degree crim*i*nal tres*pass. Scire’s bond was set at $2,500 and she is sched*uled to appear Aug. 7 in Nor*walk Supe*rior Court.
So we have a Chris Man*fre*do*nia arrested and quickly released AND a pos*si*ble sus*pect vehi*cle belong*ing to a Christo*pher A. Rodia with a recent crim*i*nal past. All things con*sid*ered, there is no rea*son at this point to assume Chris Man*fre*do*nia had any*thing to do with the shoot*ing and even less evi*dence that Christo*pher Rodia was involved.
But, at the end of this, we also still don’t know who was wear*ing the “camo pants” that day. Mys*tery solved? Unfor*tu*nately not. Much con*fu*sion? Oh yes.
Update 12/21/2012
The mys*tery of the “pos*si*ble sus*pect vehi*cle” reg*is*tered to Christo*pher A. Rodia just got a lot more mys*te*ri*ous. First, go here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETkrxfYoQtc) to the police scan*ner audio record*ing and lis*ten at ~30:20 when the offi*cer is list*ing the license plate of the vehi*cle. The audio is clearly “872 YEO”, and about 20 sec*onds later it’s said to be reg*is*tered to Christo*pher A. Rodia. That license plate # is exactly the same plate as the shooter’s vehi*cle accord*ing to the image here (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/19/medical-examiner-seeks-genetic-clues-to-connecticut-school-gunman). Click on the “Related Images” pic*ture of the shooter’s car. There’s an option to zoom in. The license plate is clearly “872 YEO”.
Woah.
Update 2 — 12/21/12
There’s another copy (http://news.yahoo.com/photos/car-driven-connecticut-school-shooter-lanza-towed-sandy-photo-213310925.html) of that image of the shooter’s car with a clear shot of the license plate num*ber (so no click*ing is require to zoom in).
http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/HXDAPG5HYFeMP._kzcBN8Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zNDQ7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2012-12-16T213747Z_984350115_GM1E8CH0FBT01_RTRMADP_3_USA-SHOOTING-CONNECTICUT-LANZA.JPG
Again, note that the police scan*ner audio file uploaded to Youtube was ver*i*fied by the police (http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Scanner-Activity-Shows-Police-Response-to-Newtown-Massacre-183632671.html). So, assum*ing there aren’t hoax ver*sion of that audio file already spread*ing around (which is very pos*si*ble), there is a grow*ing num*ber of seri*ous ques*tions that needs to be asked.
Also, note that The Inquisitr arti*cle excerpted above makes the point that bizarre story dis*crep*an*cies just aren’t pos*si*ble given the num*ber of peo*ple involved. So it’s worth not*ing, again, that the offi*cial nar*ra*tive about what hap*pened at Columbine was wrong and never cor*rected for years (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57559727/columbine-author-media-often-gets-the-story-wrong/):

Decem*ber 18, 2012 2:15 PM
“Columbine” author: Media often gets the story wrong
(CBS News) Author Dave Cullen, who spent 10 years research*ing the Col*orado school mas*sacre for his book “Columbine,” said on “CBS This Morn*ing” that often*times in a rush to under*stand a mass shooter, the media and the pub*lic often mis*un*der*stand the killers.
He explained, “After Columbine, three days later, we had it fig*ured out. We, the media, pub*lic, every*one under*stand key things. ...We knew that they were out*cast, loner goths from the trench coat mafia who had been bru*tally bul*lied by jocks and were doing this as a revenge act to get back at the jocks for doing it,” Cullen said. “Every*thing I just said is wrong. Not one sin*gle ele*ment of that is true. Def*i*nitely wasn’t about tar*get*ing any*one. There were bombs try*ing to kill every*one. They were not lon*ers or out*casts. They weren’t at the top of the food chain, but they had quite a few friends and they had a very active social life. You look at their (sched*ule). It’s — they’re com*pletely full. So all these things were wrong.”
How*ever, the orig*i*nal, incor*rect nar*ra*tive has lived on. Cullen said, “I do a lot of high school and dif*fer*ent events and ask peo*ple, ‘What are the main things you know about Columbine?’ And they say all those things. The thing is this week what*ever we leave the pub*lic with is going to be with them for*ever. We’re going to cover this non*stop for a week or two or some*thing. We all know how this goes. And then we go away and some*thing else becomes the story. That clos*ing point what*ever it is, what*ever ideas we left the pub*lic with, they are with us forever.”
...

[gunDriller]

Geezus:

fail*ure to carry pre*scrip*tion drugs in pre*scribed con*tainer.

since when is that a crime ?

GEEZUS is right !

the cancerous American police state is now openly metastasing.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Secondary_tumor_deposits_in_the_liver_from_a_prima ry_cancer_of_the_pancreas.jpg/230px-Secondary_tumor_deposits_in_the_liver_from_a_prima ry_cancer_of_the_pancreas.jpg

[Horn]

And the license plate is the same on Lanzas car and the parents car of the gingerbread girl... hmmph.

Wait, are you just making this shit up?

Because I'll believe anything at this point...

Or I mean where's the gingerbread girl's parents car?

[Cebu_4_2]

In that article I pasted, read it. The girls parents car and the lone gunmans car has the same license plates...links provided too but I'm not going to paste them all for you.

[Horn]

Strange




A strange review for a movie called "Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre"


Go to Radioreference.com and listen to the police banner of the event. (www.radioreference.com... (http://www.radioreference.com/))

At 30:20 they cite the suspected vehicle license plate 872 YEO as belonging to Christopher A Rodia.

This same car is presented on reuters and foxnews as the vehicle of the killer (adam lanza's) mother.

(www.google.com... (http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=LEH&tbo=d&rls=org.mozilla):en-UShttp://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/smilies/shocked.giffficial&channel=fflb&biw=1360&bih=646&tbm=isch&tbnid=8kc7wmST sBwcCM:&imgrefurl=http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/19/medical-examiner-seeks-genetic-clues-to-connecticut-school-gunman/%3Futm_source%3Dfeedburner%26 utm_medium%3Dfeed%26utm_campaign%3DFeed%253A%2Bfox news%252Fmost-popular%2B%28Internal%2B-%2BMost%2BPopular%2BContent%29&docid=uqozxObKHRNztM&imgurl=ht tp://global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/World/lanza_car_reuters.jpg&w=660&h=371&ei=zirVUKnZMYiDqQGT1oHQAg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=4&vpy=139&dur=1016&h ovh=168&hovw=300&tx=196&ty=59&sig=101546951771005861212&page=1&tbnh=137&tbnw=250&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:88)

scroll down it is on the right hand side of the page and the plate says 872 YEO . . .

Oh and former friends of Lanza are saying he had a website dedicated to the devil

'I am the devil': Former classmate reveals school gunman had 'online devil worshiping page'
(www.dailymail.co.uk... (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250608/Adam-Lanzas-classmate-reveals-Sandy-Hook-gunman-online-devil-worshiping-page.html))

What the F? There is a thread about this that is currently closed and under review by the mods



Decide for yourself folks . . . .

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread909747/pg15

[Horn]

Did Illuminati Leave Cryptic Message On Conspiracy Forum Website? Who Is Christopher Rodia?


Did a member of the so-called ‘illuminati’ leave a cryptic message upon a conspiracy forum (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2090581/pg1) website warning of future events associated with the Sandy Hook elementary school shootings? The ‘conspiracy theory’ website has been buzzing for the last day in reference to the following message left by a user who then ‘disappeared’ and has not been heard from since. The message, called “A warning and Secret Clue- SANDY HOOK and the POINT”, was left by a user calling himself ‘SandUSKy’ and closes with “I pray you understand the cryptic importance of this message. Some of us do care. Stay safe.” Is a member of the ‘illuminati’ trying to warn us or is this just another poser seeking attention over this disaster? Here’s the entire message: A warning and Secret Clue- SANDY HOOK and the POINT When the pebbles skip across the water, only but one will sink. Three smooth skip over the body, while the rough and jagged trip over and join. CHRIStmas delivers fulfilment of the list. Who is naughty to be left out? SANDuskY has a POINT. Adam holds the fire which was sparked by CHRIStmas EVE. Watch the fire roast the LAMB as the LAMB is SANDY and POINTs towards CHRISTMAS EVE. I pray you understand the cryptic importance of this message. Some of us do care. Stay safe. So, anyone care to try and pick this apart? One thing that immediately becomes clear to me is the reference to CHRIS in CHRIStmas. Who is Chris? Chris may hold the key to this whole incident. At the 30 minute 20 second mark of the police scanner video below and excerpted in the first video, a Newtown police officer reads off the license plate of a car found in the parking lot, 872 YEO Connecticut. A couple seconds later, the officer confirms that the owner of a car with Connecticut license plate 872 YEO is a Christopher Rodia and proceeds to spell out his last name. R – O – D – I – A. One problem with this scenario is that the car shown with a license plate 872 YEO was the car supposedly owned by one Adam Lanza and seen in the picture and video below being hauled off by police after the shooting.


http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2012/12/did-illuminati-leave-cryptic-message-on-conspiracy-forum-website-who-is-christopher-rodia-2447028.html

[Cebu_4_2]

It is obvious Jackie did it.

[Horn]

It is obvious Jackie did it.

You've been reading too many internet forums...

Manfredonia is too obvious, I'm thinking again there was some vast failure in the security system installed.

Where are the security cams from Aurora, and how come those Fire Exit alarms never work?

[Glass]

That message seems to indicate the children might still be alive until christmas eve. I think we need a list of the big To Be Seen At christmas events are this year.

Where are all the big guys spending their xmas eve. Where will all the leaders of the Govt be spending theirs? What is the whitehouse doing? Is there an event on somewhere they will be at?

[Glass]

When the pebbles skip across the water, only but one will sink. Three smooth skip over the body, while the rough and jagged trip over and join. CHRIStmas delivers fulfilment of the list. Who is naughty to be left out? SANDuskY has a POINT. Adam holds the fire which was sparked by CHRIStmas EVE. Watch the fire roast the LAMB as the LAMB is SANDY and POINTs towards CHRISTMAS EVE. I pray you understand the cryptic importance of this message. Some of us do care. Stay safe.



Watch the fire roast the LAMB

Based on material I have read previous, this suggests a sacrificial ceremony called the "cremation of care". This is the one in the AJ video. It is a sacrice to Baal or Moloch as it is known at the Bohemia Grove. This involves burning the sacrifice. It can also be done by drawing the victims blood and burning that blood.

[vacuum]

Based on material I have read previous, this suggests a sacrificial ceremony called the "cremation of care". This is the one in the AJ video. It is a sacrice to Baal or Moloch as it is known at the Bohemia Grove. This involves burning the sacrifice. It can also be done by drawing the victims blood and burning that blood.

Well none of the parents actually saw their kid's bodies. They could definitely still be alive right now.

[Horn]

What exactly is "cryptic importance"?

Maybe it harkens back to the Benghazi probe again?

Resignations: Eric Boswell was responsible for diplomats security and Charlene Lamb was in charge of security for the embassy in Benghazi.


Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed in a six-hour, commando-style attack on the consulate in Benghazi



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250347/Eric-Boswell-Charlene-Lamb-Security-chiefs-resign-probe-Benghazi-strike-death-Christopher-Stevens.html

[Cebu_4_2]

Are they going to come straight out with a sacrifice video perhaps? Sheep will cheer and Satan will be in the forefront... were so fubarred.

[Glass]

I'm trying to find a reference to POINT somewhere. What could that be referring to? To West Point? IS there some other thing or location that this might be referring to?

I watched that dark knight movie, the whole appallingly bad 2 and a half hours of it. The Sandy Hook reference is definately there. I couldn't see anything else that might tie in with this. Christmas is the peak of the equinox so there's a few things that could go down. It could be a sun sacrifice on it's own or it could be used in conjunction with something else...... like in the movie it could be a nuke or something insane like that. I think that's a bit far fetched but you never know with this stuff.


When the pebbles skip across the water, only but one will sink. Three smooth skip over the body, while the rough and jagged trip over and join

I'm alo trying to get my head around this first line. Only but one will sink. Does this mean all of them sink but one or only one sinks?

[Cebu_4_2]

All will sink but one.

[Glass]

This is from the original link.


They delight in using crypto ‘coward speak’ when talking of anything Holy. Historically, it seems to cause them great pain and trouble to even speak plainly about anything of God! The name, Sandy, is a shortened form of Sandra (short for Alexandra) which means: “Protector of man”. Perhaps the enemies of our once preponderantly Christian nation are saying that the LAMB which is SANDY (Protector of man) will receive a “roasting”, as Adam holds the fire ‘sparked’ by CHRIStmas EVE. (The capitals re arranged may spell “HER VICES”.) Is one perhaps saying that by reason of ‘her vices’ those who trip over and join the body are left off the list of fulfillment? A list perhaps of those to be wiped out on or near Christmas eve for not joining the body of God’s enemies? Nothing they do should surprise us any more. Stay on guard and Close to your Savior and you will be given a smooth white pebble, among other things!. Revelation 2:17
Blessings in Christ

[Kali]

Well none of the parents actually saw their kid's bodies. They could definitely still be alive right now.

I keep hearing this but how do you know?

Is there a video or article somewhere?

Out of 20 children dead no parent is DEMANDING to see their childs body?

I would be in jail for demanding to see mine then I have several family members who would be right behind me.

How do we know they were not EVER allowed to see their childs body?

I would like to hear.

If proven, it would be a smoking gun.

[midnight rambler]

I keep hearing this but how do you know?

Is there a video or article somewhere?

Out of 20 children dead no parent is DEMANDING to see their childs body?

I would be in jail for demanding to see mine then I have several family members who would be right behind me.

How do we know they were not EVER allowed to see their childs body?

I would like to hear.

If proven, it would be a smoking gun.

I was talking to a fellow on the east coast a few hours ago and he was adamant that he'd picked up on reports that the caskets were 'locked' and that the parents were not allowed to see their children's bodies, they were only shown photos. So this story is floating around out there, and this fellow isn't one to hang out on 'conspiracy' type forums - he had heard it on the nooz.

[Glass]

This appears on a page linked earlier in this thread. The info has been added to over time so there is probably more info here now that when first posted. I hadn't seen this info before. I think this was posted on the 16th


1:07 p.m.: NBC News has more details up (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/15/15926718-newtown-gunman-had-altercation-with-school-staff-day-before-massacre?lite) about the "altercation" between Lanza and four school
http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/upload/2012/12/15/rendered/330276e9d3be4aa0bed4455b10db2f85_300x168.jpg
officials that happened the day before the shooting. Three of the four school employees involved were killed on Friday. The fourth wasn't at school that day and is now being interviewed by state and federal officials.

NBC is also backing up the AP's report that Lanza had four handguns when he entered the school, plus the rifle waiting outside. CNN is reporting he also had three rifles (https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/280004404415971328) at a second location.
NBC previously reported Lanza tried to buy another rifle last week at a sporting goods store, but ultimately didn't because of the state's waiting period.

Says he had 4 handguns and a rifle in the car. Plus 3 other rifles somewhere else.

[freespirit]

just wanted to add there was a verbal reference to "sandy hook" secondary school**in an episode of the simpsons that aired a few days ago...

it was an older (repeat) episode, but having trouble finding a clip...


** no such school comes up in a google search, but it still struck me as odd...

[jimswift]

4214

Other than this incident, I swear it seems like Ive seen that picture before.

[Glass]

was there any real helicopter footage? I've only seen the video of the chase in the woods. It is not a long segment. I'm figuring there should be more. I'd like to see more of the surrounds at the time.

Looking at that video, is it likely for there to be deer in those woods? I'm sure I can see one bolting.

[sunshine05]

just wanted to add there was a verbal reference to "sandy hook" secondary school**in an episode of the simpsons that aired a few days ago...

it was an older (repeat) episode, but having trouble finding a clip...


** no such school comes up in a google search, but it still struck me as odd...

What was the episode about? I would like to see that. Maybe with more info we can find it.

[Awoke]

Don't have time to read the thread, but wanted to make sure this was posted if no-one else already put it up.

http://www.pakalertpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Two-Mass-Shootings-Connected-To-Libor-Scandal.jpg

[freespirit]

What was the episode about? I would like to see that. Maybe with more info we can find it.

...over the course of that evening, there were a couple of episodes on (background noise) so i wasn't totally paying attention...we had company at the time, but i distinctly heard the mention of "sandy hook secondary". i wonder if the episode could be found by finding what episodes were aired between 8 and 9pm on friday night, likely on faux network.
...seems like a lot of work for something so trivial...

[madfranks]

Don't have time to read the thread, but wanted to make sure this was posted if no-one else already put it up.



I hadn't seen that before. So what's the libor connection?

[Horn]

I hadn't seen that before. So what's the libor connection?

Only Nancy knows,

http://financial-advisors.findthebest.com/l/381613/Nancy-Lanza

[sirgonzo420]

has anyone seen the father give any interview or anything?

Any video of him from after the shooting?

Because he was originally reported as dead at the New Jersey address on the ID of Ryan Lanza (which was found in the pocket of Adam Lanza, who is the implied shooter).

[midnight rambler]

I hadn't seen that before. So what's the libor connection?

There is no LIBOR connection.

[JDRock]

I keep hearing this but how do you know?

Is there a video or article somewhere?

Out of 20 children dead no parent is DEMANDING to see their childs body?

I would be in jail for demanding to see mine then I have several family members who would be right behind me.

How do we know they were not EVER allowed to see their childs body?

I would like to hear.

If proven, it would be a smoking gun. does anyone have anything else on this?? this is huge.

[Horn]

Would it be a simple matter of looking at township police records to see if Christopher Rodia was arrested that day?

Or do you need to be actually "booked" to show up as "arrested/cuffed"?

[Glass]

There is a lot of info being turned over at god like productions. Much contention and lots of rehashing.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread907649/pg156

there was a professional link discovered between Rosen, the Whitehouse and one other person who was either the laughing Dad or one of the Rodia clan.

Since I was reading that info last night it looks like the Rosen material has been purged from the site.

[Neuro]

Only Nancy knows,

http://financial-advisors.findthebest.com/l/381613/Nancy-Lanza
So she was a US treasury bond dealer at Morgan Stanley. Small world!

[old steel]

AR-15 confirmed to be found inside mothers car NOT brought into school.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CDHLBfKusU

[vacuum]

AR-15 confirmed to be found inside mothers car NOT brought into school.


So did the rifle bullets come from the same rifle that was in the car? That should be tested.

[Awoke]

I hadn't seen that before. So what's the libor connection?

http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-and-politics/2012/12/2-mass-shootings-connected-to-libor-2447738.html




The father of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza, Peter Lanza, was the tax director (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/peter-lanza-father-of-adam-lanza-is-the-tax-director-for-general-electric-2515318.html) for General Electric, a corporation that paid -0- taxes on 14.2 billion dollars in profits last year. According to Fabian4Liberty, Peter Lanza was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal. In what could only be described an amazing coincidence, the father of Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes, Robert Holmes, was also a LIBOR witness in his position with FICO (http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/news-ticker/2012/jul/20/holmess-father-is-anti-fraud-scientist/). According to the link at FICO, Robert Holmes was a ‘Fraud Scientist’. From Fabain4Liberty: The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a motive and a link. This coincidence is impossible to overlook. Two mass shootings connected to LIBOR (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-15/ubs-libor-manipulation-accord-said-to-be-as-much-as-1-6-billion.html).


Pardon the formatting.

[madfranks]

So is the implication that forces inside LIBOR didn't want these folks to testify against them so they pulled the strings to get their kids to pull off the mass shootings in order to distract from the scandal?

Are the parents off the hook from testifying ever? And I guess the question is, what do they know?

[freespirit]

Nice to see you posting again, Awoke! You have been missed.

[sunshine05]

Another strange thing - Apparently Ryan Lanza's FB page was faked. This is creepy because there were early posts from this account just after the shootings occurred and posts from this person stating "I didn't do it", etc.


http://www.ibtimes.com/ryan-lanza-facebook-hoax-fake-brother-gunman-mourns-victims-sandy-hook-shooting-965848

[Norweger]

The Sexton Greenburg connection is what might blow this thing open.

[osoab]

So is the implication that forces inside LIBOR didn't want these folks to testify against them so they pulled the strings to get their kids to pull off the mass shootings in order to distract from the scandal?

Are the parents off the hook from testifying ever? And I guess the question is, what do they know?

As midnightrambler has shown either in this thread or another, the LIBOR angle for both is bogus. This originated from Sorcha.

I believe that neither Lanza's name or the other father appear on any future slate of testifiers too.

[midnight rambler]

Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal.

I'd like to see some substantiation of this rather than simply relying on what some blogger has to say.

[osoab]

The Sexton Greenburg connection is what might blow this thing open.

Been reading this sight, eh?

http://www.wellaware1.com/fairfield.htm

[midnight rambler]

Been reading this sight, eh?

http://www.wellaware1.com/fairfield.htm

That wellaware1 website posits such extremely bizarre shit I'm convinced it's been placed there by the competition to foul up those seeking the truth.

[Horn]

As midnightrambler has shown either in this thread or another, the LIBOR angle for both is bogus. This originated from Sorcha.

I believe that neither Lanza's name or the other father appear on any future slate of testifiers too.

Though their coincidental positions as high level financial advisers still remains, unnoticed by the media.

[Norweger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfScPPysADQ

http://politicaltrance.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/sandyhooksham.jpg

http://politicaltrance.wordpress.com/tag/nick-phelps/

[osoab]

Though their coincidental positions as high level financial advisers still remains, unnoticed by the media.


Only one is high up in the financial side.

[midnight rambler]

Though their coincidental positions as high level financial advisers still remains, unnoticed by the media.

Nancy Lanza (nee Champion) and Nancy Elaine Lanza are merely two different Nancys with the same last name who prior to 12/14/12 both lived in Connecticut.

[Horn]

I'm almost positive the school nurse worships at Satan's church.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHEs-XAJqfU

[Horn]

Only one is high up in the financial side.

So VP at GE financial, and lead scientist with FICO have zero in common, and should be disregarded?

[Neuro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfScPPysADQ

http://politicaltrance.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/sandyhooksham.jpg

http://politicaltrance.wordpress.com/tag/nick-phelps/

Wow! Just wow! After seeing that it is bleeding obvious it is all faked! It fucking didn't happen! These people are professional fakers, in high profile shoot-outs, playing victims and relatives of victims. Sandy Hook didn't happen! The Gifford shooting didn't happen...

[midnight rambler]

So VP at GE financial, and lead scientist with FICO have zero in common, and should be disregarded?

So you're a Sorcha Faal fan?

[Horn]

So you're a Sorcha Faal fan?

The coincidence in the father's employment field isn't being reported at all.

Are you buying the MSM position of the rubberband armed bandit?

I doubt the kid could even carry more than one rifle & pistol at once.

[midnight rambler]

More unanswered questions - http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-unanswered-questions-and-missing-information/5316776

One thing that has troubled me greatly from the first moment I saw it was the state ME laughing/chuckling at the press conference.

[Horn]

Wow! Just wow! After seeing that it is bleeding obvious it is all faked! It fucking didn't happen! These people are professional fakers, in high profile shoot-outs, playing victims and relatives of victims. Sandy Hook didn't happen! The Gifford shooting didn't happen...

Well this goes all the way back to the Gifford shooting.

Wonder what Gifford thinks?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfScPPysADQ

Its whoever can put on the best production that gets to write history, apparently.

http://universallyaware.ning.com/photo/michael-greenberg-plays-dallas-green-in-the-gifford-shooting?xg_source=activity

[JDRock]

at this point the ONLY story we can positively reject, is the official story....we have alot of leads to chase down here with few reliable sources.

[Horn]

I thought this picture rather convincing.

4221

http://wellaware1.com/colorado_shooting_hoax.htm

[BrewTech]

Mr "Wellaware" just posts pictures of people that look vaguely similar and calls it proof.

Most of the pictures he compares are UNMISTAKABLY different people.

Not that I think the idea of all of these shootings being staged events using actors as completely out of the realm of possibility (not in THIS world), but this guy is not proving anything.

[Norweger]

Mr "Wellaware" just posts pictures of people that look vaguely similar and calls it proof.

Most of the pictures he compares are UNMISTAKABLY different people.

Not that I think the idea of all of these shootings being staged events using actors as completely out of the realm of possibility (not in THIS world), but this guy is not proving anything.

Remember the Harley Guy?

[BrewTech]

Remember the Harley Guy?

Indeed I do, which is why I said what I said.


Not that I think the idea of all of these shootings being staged events using actors as completely out of the realm of possibility (not in THIS world)

[willie pete]

Mr "Wellaware" just posts pictures of people that look vaguely similar and calls it proof.

Most of the pictures he compares are UNMISTAKABLY different people.

Not that I think the idea of all of these shootings being staged events using actors as completely out of the realm of possibility (not in THIS world), but this guy is not proving anything.

something else, IF these people are posing as the parents of slain children, then where are the slain childrens real parents? .....I'm skeptical by nature, guess it's the german blood in me...lol ...but I certainly don't think every freakin' tradgedy or calamity in life is a conspiracy :rolleyes:

[Norweger]

Indeed I do, which is why I said what I said.

Seems i misinterpreted you, but i agree that the page is muddying the waters, but that doesn't mean that everything on it is false.

[BrewTech]

something else, IF these people are posing as the parents of slain children, then where are the slain childrens real parents? .....I'm skeptical by nature, guess it's the german blood in me...lol ...but I certainly don't think every freakin' tradgedy or calamity in life is a conspiracy :rolleyes:

I think the point is that there may not even BE any slain children... that the whole thing was staged and there was no shooting.

There certainly is a lot of acting going on... that much cannot be denied.

[Horn]

something else, IF these people are posing as the parents of slain children, then where are the slain childrens real parents? .....I'm skeptical by nature, guess it's the german blood in me...lol ...but I certainly don't think every freakin' tradgedy or calamity in life is a conspiracy :rolleyes:

Too many incongruities in immediate testimony to think otherwise on this one.

Add a felons car that goes unreported & you can't help but draw conclusions.

These people interviewed here are all actors as far as I can tell.

[Norweger]

Jewish actors.

[Horn]

The picture with the bagels and sandwiches at the Gifford shooting was kind of compelling also...

http://wellaware1.com/giffords101.htm

http://wellaware1.com/artwork/large/giffords/giffords-lunch.jpg

[PatColo]

see reply 3 for audio of interview with wellaware1/dallasgoldbug,
Thread: Site puports to expose ZSM hoax "news" footage, common actors (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?56710-Site-puports-to-expose-ZSM-hoax-quot-news-quot-footage-common-actors)
host Charles Giuliani concludes (in next day's show) that wellaware1 is full of it.

[Neuro]

something else, IF these people are posing as the parents of slain children, then where are the slain childrens real parents? .....I'm skeptical by nature, guess it's the german blood in me...lol ...but I certainly don't think every freakin' tradgedy or calamity in life is a conspiracy :rolleyes:
Ok Herr Skeptic, why do you think there are slain children?

[freespirit]

Ok Herr Skeptic, why do you think there are slain children?

ummm....maybe because of this post?.....


when i started this thread, i noted the fact that a friend who lives there alerted me to it. spoke with her this morning. one of her friends children is among the dead. i guess everyone of the families has a state patrol guard assigned to them as well to shield them mostly from the press. the press seems to be being assholes i'm told, trying to get all of the families to talk about "what they think of gun control," etc. seems the press out there is being very, very, shitty.

[PatColo]

besides Kevin Barrett's excellent "Who really killed the Connecticut children? (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/14/who-really-killed-the-connecticut-children/)" published about an hour after the 12/14 event; he published this the following day 12/15:


Saturday, December 15, 2012

Catapult the counter-narrative! (http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2012/12/catapult-counter-narrative.html)





http://www.mujca.com/Inside_Job_3.png


Just minutes after an apparent false-flag is the best time to spread the word!



George W. Bush said his job was to "catapult the propaganda (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxnegxNEDAc)."

My job is to catapult the counter-narrative.

The basic building blocks of human thought, and human society, are narratives - stories with emotional associations. In short, storytellers rule the world.

Karl Rove knows that. He snickers at the childish delusions of the "reality-based community (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community)," and brags:

"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

Yesterday, "history's actors" sent a mind-controlled killer into an elementary school. This despicable act, like virtually all other large-scale terror operations, was designed to "catapult the propaganda." The narrative: "Lone nut commits random act of terror!" The message: "Be afraid! Obey authority! Feel helpless! Feel despair! Lose faith! Take a dim view of human nature! Empower reactionary, authoritarian forces! Give up liberty for security!"

I am not content to just "study what they do." So I'm not going to wait and try to sort out whether this might actually be a freak lone nut attack, rather than the usual false-flag stuff.

I am at war with them. I'm going to act pre-emptively.

I'm going to catapult the counter-narrative.

That's why, within an hour of the news of the Newtown School massacre, I posted my contribution towards putting the event in historical context:
Who really killed the Connecticut children? (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/14/who-really-killed-the-connecticut-children/)

I did the same thing within a few hours of the news of the alleged assassination of Bin Laden:
"Death of Bin Laden": A Spectral Human Sacrifice (http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2011/05/death-of-bin-laden-specular-human.html)

Today, with millions or even billions of people reacting to breaking news in real time, whoever gets their version of the story out there first is going to prevail in shaping popular opinion.

The bad guys know that. That's why they had "Harley Guy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0wHeekgPqk)" ready to read the official 9/11 script just minutes after the demolitions. And that's why they were in such a hurry to feed the BBC a script purporting to explain the "collapse" of World Trade Center Building 7 - a script that was accidentally read on camera twenty minutes BEFORE the actual demolition!
BBC Reports Collapse of WTC Building 7 Early-- TWICE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s)

Today, a whole army of info-warriors is ready to "catapult the counter-narrative" in the event of a major false flag event (and we must assume that any major "terror" event is false-flag).

That means that if the bad guys want to try anything as big as 9/11 or bigger, they're going to have to take down the internet. Hence the likelihood of a "cyber-9/11" in which "radical terrorists" or "Iran" or "dangerous anarchist hackers" will be falsely blamed for taking down the internet.

We need to be prepared.

What are YOU going to do when the cyber-9/11 comes?

I know what I'm going to do! I'm going to go "freeway blogging" (http://vimeo.com/6763758) with INSIDE JOB signs.

If you don't have these signs, you just aren't ready for what's coming.

I still have a couple of rolls worth of INSIDE JOB signs (http://www.mujca.com/stopthenext911.htm). (More than ten rolls - thousands of signs - have already been distributed.)

If you'd like one, go to TruthJihad.com (http://truthjihad.com/) and paypal ten bucks using the button at the top of page.

Or paypal twenty bucks for three signs attached together - a very visible statement indeed!

As the Boy Scouts always say: BE PREPARED!

[PatColo]

Thread: VisionBox Crisis Actors - Crisisactors.org (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66061-VisionBox-Crisis-Actors-Crisisactors-org)


Sandy Hook - Mock Terror Drills - Crisis Actors (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMhyYBb1qBk)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMhyYBb1qBk


LifePsyop (http://www.youtube.com/user/LifePsyop?feature=watch)·9 videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/LifePsyop/videos)


Published on Dec 25, 2012
Faking terror events is a massive industry blurring the boundaries between academia, entertainment, government, and newsmedia.

The Sandy Hook Actors

Link to Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_b9hh2lp3I
Link to Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QVKu4_JxcE
Link to Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KDZQ10c8O4

DHS Terror Drills recently conducted in Sandy Hook
http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDetail_page.asp?date_ID=CBC7CBCBCC83CDC9CC

Putnam County, CT school shooting drills on same day as Sandy Hook events
http://southeast.patch.com/articles/sheriff-putnam-officials-to-talk-school-safety-this-afternoon

[Agrippa]

ummm....maybe because of this post?.....

While Chad's report of a friend of a friend losing their child is an interesting data point, he did not report that this person had seen and identified the body of their child. While it would be nice to think that the government would be hesitant to murder a bunch of American children for political purposes, they are never hesitant to take children away from their parents. In their minds this is just repositioning some of their assets. Children in Kindergarten would be easy to "vanish" into foster care.

[midnight rambler]

While Chad's report of a friend of a friend losing their child is an interesting data point, he did not report that this person had seen and identified the body of their child. While it would be nice to think that the government would be hesitant to murder a bunch of American children for political purposes, they are never hesitant to take children away from their parents. In their minds this is just repositioning some of their assets. Children in Kindergarten would be easy to "vanish" into foster care.

I'm sure there are plenty of openings for very young children in white slavery/MKULTRA/the worst things you can possibly imagine.

[Neuro]

While Chad's report of a friend of a friend losing their child is an interesting data point, he did not report that this person had seen and identified the body of their child. While it would be nice to think that the government would be hesitant to murder a bunch of American children for political purposes, they are never hesitant to take children away from their parents. In their minds this is just repositioning some of their assets. Children in Kindergarten would be easy to "vanish" into foster care.
Another thing with a friend of a friend, it could easily be a friend of a friend of a friend, without casting any doubt on Chads statement...

[Libertytree]

Just a question folks. I agree there has been a lacking in photo/video evidence but what if they had plastered that stuff hard and heavy in the MSM in their zeal to pass new gun laws? What would be saying then? Would we be outraged that they would exploit the kids and their families for their agenda?

[freespirit]

it seems like most people are so busy doubting everything that they wouldn't recognize the truth if it jumped up and bit them in the ass.

that is not to say that we have been told anything that resembles the truth, but we are so conditioned to look for the holes in every theory that it sooner or later reaches a point where you can't see the forest for the trees.

...and around we go again...

[Cebu_4_2]

This is a must watch, first time I saw all the fire trucks lined up, all the ambulances BLOCKED IN with CIVILIAN vehicles! Has anyone seen if any of them emergency vehicles are even from CT?


Thread: VisionBox Crisis Actors - Crisisactors.org (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66061-VisionBox-Crisis-Actors-Crisisactors-org)




Sandy Hook - Mock Terror Drills - Crisis Actors (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMhyYBb1qBk)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMhyYBb1qBk

[Horn]

Just a question folks. I agree there has been a lacking in photo/video evidence but what if they had plastered that stuff hard and heavy in the MSM in their zeal to pass new gun laws? What would be saying then? Would we be outraged that they would exploit the kids and their families for their agenda?

I haven't seen a piece of broken glass, or even one bloody towel.

Alls we have is a satanic nurse who says the shooter probably walked in when she saw his knees.

[Horn]

This is a must watch, first time I saw all the fire trucks lined up, all the ambulances BLOCKED IN with CIVILIAN vehicles! Has anyone seen if any of them emergency vehicles are even from CT?

Here's that same type popout tent truck shown at the Gifford shooting for serving coffee & sandwiches, strategically placed.

4223http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/gty_sandy_hook_aerial_kb_121214_wg.jpghttp://kotv.images.worldnow.com/images/20351986_BG2.jpg
http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1489991.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Sandy+Hook+Elementary+School+where+a+shooting+has+ occurred+

[Horn]

As much as I feel for whatever did actually occur,

I must question the rapid response of clearly integrated anglework memorium and disarmament agenda.

4224

http://www.causes.com/causes/807161-stand-with-sandy-hook/actions/1716727

[Hatha Sunahara]

Here's a bit of perspective on how the facts get to fit the narrative--or either the facts change or the narrative changes.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/20/sandy-hook-massacre-official-story-spins-out-of-control/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=sandy-hook-massacre-official-story-spins-out-of-control

I think it's all fake. I don't know how they get the participants to go along with it. Giffords was a congresswoman. If she wasn't shot in the head, how did they get all the EMTs and medical people at the hospital to go along with that? How did they get her husband, who is an astronaut to go along with it? How do they get all the law enforcement people to go along with any of these frame ups? Is everybody in this country corrupt? Or is everybody afraid career death or of being killed if they don't conform and obey? Isn't there a single person who can figure out what is going on and willing to talk about it? That is what is most remarkable about all these shootings. The official story doesn't hang together, and nobody has a clue to what is really going on, so the people who believe it is a lie fish around for alternative explanations, and get labeled conspiracy theorists and are discredited. This is the flavor of all these black ops--most notably 911. I have faith that one day the truth will emerge. The world, however will be in ruins on that day.


Hatha

[sunshine05]

Here's a bit of perspective on how the facts get to fit the narrative--or either the facts change or the narrative changes.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/20/sandy-hook-massacre-official-story-spins-out-of-control/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=sandy-hook-massacre-official-story-spins-out-of-control

I think it's all fake. I don't know how they get the participants to go along with it. Giffords was a congresswoman. If she wasn't shot in the head, how did they get all the EMTs and medical people at the hospital to go along with that? How did they get her husband, who is an astronaut to go along with it? How do they get all the law enforcement people to go along with any of these frame ups? Is everybody in this country corrupt? Or is everybody afraid career death or of being killed if they don't conform and obey? Isn't there a single person who can figure out what is going on and willing to talk about it? That is what is most remarkable about all these shootings. The official story doesn't hang together, and nobody has a clue to what is really going on, so the people who believe it is a lie fish around for alternative explanations, and get labeled conspiracy theorists and are discredited. This is the flavor of all these black ops--most notably 911. I have faith that one day the truth will emerge. The world, however will be in ruins on that day.


Hatha

I've thought about it a lot for a long time now. I don't know how they do it. I think a lot of the people involved are in trouble with the law and participate out of fear of going to prison. I think the key players participate because they support the agenda they are using the false flag to promote. They also likely believe in their twisted minds that it's okay because no one is really getting hurt.

I read 1984 for a second time about a year or so ago. There was a part that I need to go back and find. Winston specifically discusses how he recognizes someone in a news article from something that happened years prior but he understood that they were recycling people, using actors.

[sirgonzo420]

remember this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQod-mWZ7oI


This whole world is layers upon layers of illusion.

[vacuum]

http://www.dailypaul.com/267521/i-think-its-official-the-sandy-hook-hoax-has-backfired

I Think It's Official, The Sandy Hook Hoax Has Backfired Submitted by zooamerica (http://www.dailypaul.com/user/9706) on Tue, 12/25/2012 (http://www.dailypaul.com/date/2012/12/25) - 23:59in

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Are we all experiencing the, "shift in consciousness," as I type?
Epic FAIL for the production team, director, and the entire staff behind the creation of, "The Sandy Hook Massacre."
Three brilliant videos to check out with some egg nog after a long day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=ShgdN8... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=ShgdN8arHCc)
"It wasn't intent, it was some magnificent thing."
WTF ? Did he really say that? IS THIS REAL?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=wyJ0Nl... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=wyJ0Nl5lpOg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GPKNL... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GPKNLk-sdUg#)!
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What I find MOST AMAZING is how SO MANY PEOPLE (sorry, I'm VERY excited) are really questioning the official story!
Not only the number of youtube responses, but the talk on the street...even mainstream am talk radio callers are starting to question what's going on?
And that's a good thing!

[PatColo]

I'm sure there are plenty of openings for very young children in white slavery/MKULTRA/the worst things you can possibly imagine.

@ http://www.jimstonefreelance.com

The following has a VERY GOOD chance of being true. I have known someone directly involved in this, and that is not a joke: Anonymous sent: "I've just been told that the children may be the intended victims for the Satanic ceremonies at the Navarre museum in Denver today. Here's an article on this:" Children possibly shipped to Denver (http://newsdoors.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/top-12-illuminati-banksters-meet-for.html)

[vacuum]

@ http://www.jimstonefreelance.com

The following has a VERY GOOD chance of being true. I have known someone directly involved in this, and that is not a joke:

Anonymous sent: "I've just been told that the children may be the intended victims for the Satanic ceremonies at the Navarre museum in Denver today. Here's an article on this:" Children possibly shipped to Denver (http://newsdoors.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/top-12-illuminati-banksters-meet-for.html)

That sounds about right.

[vacuum]

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I Think It's Official, The Sandy Hook Hoax Has Backfired

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Are we all experiencing the, "shift in consciousness," as I type?
Epic FAIL for the production team, director, and the entire staff behind the creation of, "The Sandy Hook Massacre."
Three brilliant videos to check out with some egg nog after a long day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=ShgdN8... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=ShgdN8arHCc)
"It wasn't intent, it was some magnificent thing."
WTF ? Did he really say that? IS THIS REAL?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=wyJ0Nl... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=wyJ0Nl5lpOg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GPKNL... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GPKNLk-sdUg#)!
------------
What I find MOST AMAZING is how SO MANY PEOPLE (sorry, I'm VERY excited) are really questioning the official story!
Not only the number of youtube responses, but the talk on the street...even mainstream am talk radio callers are starting to question what's going on?
And that's a good thing!

Comment on the article above:



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Submitted by TommyPaine (http://www.dailypaul.com/user/44351) on Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:45. Permalink (http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2878975)
I've been looking for one thing in the Sandy Hook saga. Specifically, I've been wondering if there were any school shooting related drills happening at the same time as the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary.
On 9/11/2001, the US government was running drills of planes being hijacked, planes crashing into buildings, fake blips being inserted onto air traffic radar, and drills that sent fighter jets away from the Northeast corridor, which would have been available to respond to real world attacks.
Strange, huh?
On 7/7/2005, while someone was bombing a bus in London and similar activities in the London subway, the UK government was running drills -- at the exact same time (just like 9/11) -- of what would happen if somebody bombed the subway and buses.
Strange, no?
These are drills gone real world. It's the key to knowing they are false flag operations.
In Aurora, Colorado, while someone was shooting up a movie theater, there was also a drill going on at a nearby university of what would happen if somebody attacked people in a movie theater.
Strange ... but now the odds are getting pretty damn astronomical that all this could just be a coincidence.
Especially, when we factor in that virtually every single "terrorist plot" in the USA since 9/11 has been an operation by the FBI.
It seems far too much to be mere coincidence.
Since the Sandy Hook thing occurred, it seemed that there are a number of strange things that don't seem to add up. So, I've been on the lookout for a school-related drill going on at the same time.
Turns out, the Connecticut Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection -- in conjuction with FEMA -- was running a drill at exactly 9:00 am - 4:00 pm, December 14, 2012, in Bridgeport, Connecticut. This drill was called, "Planning for the Needs of Children in Disasters."
http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/calendar.asp
More info on:
http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDetail_page.asp?date_ID=CA... (http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDetail_page.asp?date_ID=CAC9C6C9CD83CDC9C7)
They call it a "course," and not a lot of details. But this could be the drill-gone-real-world that appears to be the modus operandi of false flag operations.
And let's never forget: Operation Northwoods.

[midnight rambler]

Dayum. Bridgeport is a "29 minute" drive from Newtown according to joogle maps. What are the odds??


Turns out, the Connecticut Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection -- in conjuction with FEMA -- was running a drill at exactly 9:00 am - 4:00 pm, December 14, 2012, in Bridgeport, Connecticut. This drill was called, "Planning for the Needs of Children in Disasters."
http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/calendar.asp
More info on:
http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDetail_page.asp?date_ID=CA... (http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDetail_page.asp?date_ID=CAC9C6C9CD83CDC9C7)

[Horn]

Its as if they take what would be available immediate first responders and move them into some other drill function.

20 minutes at Sandy Hook.

http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/12/20-minute-police-response-time-at-sandy-hook/

[midnight rambler]

Does anyone have any idea what the two black blotches are next to Lanza's car?? ???

Also, note how the car is parked all nice and square OUTSIDE the striped area (and not right up on top of the entrance...wtf?).

http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Newtown-2.jpg

[Neuro]

Its as if they take what would be available immediate first responders and move them into some other drill function.

20 minutes at Sandy Hook.

http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/12/20-minute-police-response-time-at-sandy-hook/
Yes, the replacements wouldn't know each other, you can easily mix in actors...

[PatColo]

a few from http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/


"Sandy Hook Research ..... Teachers listed as Victims NOT on School Website as Faculty. Screen shots/proof- Cameras are IN Newtown Schools - Document "
http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.fi/2012/12/sandy-hook-research-teachers-listed-as.html




A couple more e-mails (only ones with totally new info.) Here is a good stretch of info, the first couple things mentioned here we all know about, but then it gets interesting . . . . . .
Fact number 1 - In the movie "The Dark Knight Rises" there is a STRIKE in a district called SANDY HOOK
Fact number 2 - In the premiere of the movie "The Dark Knight Rises", on July 20, 2012, there was a massacre in a theater in Aurora, Colorado.
Fact number 3 - In the same day, July 20, 2012, someone posted a review about a horror movie called SANDY HOOK Lingerie Party Massacre in a blog, and the review starts with the following: "So here we have Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre. Let’s say that again, SANDY HOOK LINGERIE PARTY MASSACRE! What do you think of when you see that combination of words? What’s in a title anyway? Does it have a cryptic meaning? Who is Sandy Hook? What on earth am I writing about?"

- Admin comment - THIS IS REAL. This movie was an R rated B movie, and it does in fact match everything regarding this Sandy Hook massacre quite well, as stated. Check it out on Amazon.com, this is not B.S.! (http://www.amazon.com/Sandy-Hook-Lingerie-Party-Massacre/dp/B00013K894) Read the reviews below the listing on Amazon.

Fact number 4 - In the horror movie in question, SANDY HOOK Lingerie Party Massacre, from the year 2000, the plot says there is a serial killer who strikes AFTER hurricanes.M Fact number 5 - There was a very strong hurricane in November 2012, called Hurricane SANDY, that affected the whole Northeast of the USA, including both the town of Sandy Hook, in New Jersey (where the horror movie is supposed to take place) and the village of Sandy Hook, in Newtown, Connecticut.
Fact number 6 - Less than one month and a half AFTER Hurricane Sandy, a serial killer enters SANDY HOOK Elementary School, in the village of SANDY HOOK, in Newtown, Connecticut, and kills dozens of little kids in a horrible massacre
Those are the FACTS.
I'm open for interpretations.
But there is an interpretation that is UNNACEPTABLE: "mere coincidence". Because the odds are ZERO.


My comment Actually, the odds are not zero. The odds are in fact that of two gnats, flying inside the metrodome, having a mid air collision with each other within a time frame of 30 seconds.



Note: I'm presently unconvinced of "FACT" #6 above, for the reasons widely discussed. PC

from http://www.amazon.com/Sandy-Hook-Lingerie-Party-Massacre/dp/B00013K894 , the B movie described,

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51HA07T7W2L.jpg


Most Helpful Customer Reviews
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Mr. Creepo Rules! (http://www.amazon.com/review/RW5HDYJBP27J3/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00013K894&nodeID=2625373011&store=movies-tv) July 6, 2000
By John Jacobs (http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/AGSQAZ6PK4EFJ/ref=cm_cr_dp_pdp)
Format:VHS Tape
When I saw this movie was available, I snapped up my copy right away. "Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre" is the latest video from Mr. Creepo Presents - Like Mr. Creepo's last movie: "Barely Legal Lesbian Vampires: The Curse of Ed Wood" Sandy Hook is a wild ride of thrills, nude women and some naughty fun! The plot centers on a group of exotic dancers from New York who take a vacation to the ocean. Unknown to them, a hurricane is fast approaching that will once again compel the mysterious Sandy Hook murderer to seek new victims. This movie is really fun and very entertaining. As well, it stars scream queen Debbie Rochon - an extra bonus for fans. Get this movie and "Barely Legal Lesbian Vampires" as well, you won't be disappointed by Mr. Creepo's crazy and weird sense of humor.

[Cebu_4_2]

Does anyone have any idea what the two black blotches are next to Lanza's car?? ???


Black splotches are cutouts of K9, possibly indicating the feds are also there,

[PatColo]

the "...lingerie massacre..." video review posted 7/20/12 - same day as Aurora/Batman event,

http://aslashabove.com/2012/07/20/sandy-hook-lingerie-party-massacre-2000-review/


Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre 2000 Review

Jul 20 (http://aslashabove.com/2012/07/20/sandy-hook-lingerie-party-massacre-2000-review/)

Posted by luisitojoaquin (http://aslashabove.com/author/luisitojoaquin/)

Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre 2000
Directed by: Tim Beckley
Starring: Debbie Rochon, Stephanie Hudson, DiDi

http://aslashabovedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/783763762.jpg?w=914
Review by Luisito Joaquín González
So here we have Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre. Let’s say that again, SANDY HOOK LINGERIE PARTY MASSACRE! What do you think of when you see that combination of words? What’s in a title anyway? Does it have a cryptic meaning? Who is Sandy Hook? What on earth am I writing about? Let’s move on…
Ok this is another of the many party-massacre flicks that includes the likes of: Bikini Party Massacre (Not to be confused http://aslashabovedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/876723653.jpg?w=150&h=141with Bikini Girls on Ice), Bachelor Party Massacre, http://aslashabovedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/7367363.jpg?w=85&h=150Rock Party Massacre, Pajama Party Massacre and the daddy of them all, Slumber Party Massacre.
Very hard to find on any format (I picked up mine in Moscow), Sandy Hook is another Debbie Rochon carried feature. Let me explain what I mean. Ms Rochon has built a successful career on being a half decent actress with an awesome pair of lady lumps. What she specialises in is attaching her name to modestly funded features, turning up for a second (usually to expose aforementioned ‘twin peaks’) and then disappearing with a healthy paycheque. Everyone’s a winner though, because she gets paid, the producers get a fairly experienced name to place above their title and her fans get to appreciate those two bad boys in all their bra-less glory. As she generally sticks to no-budget efforts, it’s fairly obvious that she has done her share of slashers. Check out: Final Examination, American Nightmare, Bleed, Bikini Bloodbath, Blood Relic and Santa Claws. Basically she’s the Linnea Quigley of the noughties.
I have a six hour train journey before me from London to Newcastle and on my fully charged iPad, I have Massacre at http://aslashabovedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/872367232.jpg?w=150&h=103Rocky Ridge, Porn Shoot Massacre and this little beauty. These are three zero finance and totally obscure entries to our beloved grouping. Let’s see how I get on with the first…
Some strippers head off to a seaside resort for s break. They are told the legend of a lighthouse keeper whose reckless drinking caused a ship to crash, killing close to one hundred sailors. Soon after, he killed himself and was never brought to trial. Rumour has it that when a storm comes, he stalks the area looking for revenge and many people have disappeared. As night falls, the girls are chased and systematically slaughtered by a loon in a gimp suit.<p>JavaScript required to play this video.</p>


[flash movie here, check at link, doesn't appear for me - PC]

Oh boy… Right, so I’ve had my say on lunch-money productions before. But just to recap I will tell you that I as a critic appreciate that it’s hard to make a decent feature when you’ve got no money. I have kept this in mind and will only rate http://aslashabovedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/736353.jpg?w=150&h=99this on what I thought was right and wrong. So we have our six (or seven?) strippers. They have the boobies for sure, but aside from Debbie Rochon, they also have the bellies to match. Here begins the film’s fundamental flaw.
It’s not just because these girls are awful actresses. We are used to that by now. It’s just that they’re incredibly unappealing and a runtime filled with them gets very long and very boring very quickly. To break it down: We get to watch fat chicks dancing on a bridge for ten minutes. Then we get fat chicks playing beach-ball for the same length of time. Then, said fatties go to an abandoned amusement park for a while and then we see them make dinner. By this point in the runtime, I was literally screaming: “F**king slaughter them already!” Perhaps the film’s kill shot inhttp://aslashabovedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/33653.jpg?w=150&h=101 terms of a decent ranking comes during the lightweight lesbian scene, which could in effect be a sumo match! Yes, it’s poor. Astronomically so. Also, Dios mío, I didn’t mention the nipple and tongue piercing scene…errrrrghhhh!
After an hour (you read right – a full sixty minutes) the masked killer turns up (awesome mask btw) and we get down to business. Most of the murders are too dark to see but one of them is ok. There’s a twist that you couldn’t give a flying flip about and an open ending too. The maniac uses a hook-like weapon and stalks using typical POV. A film really has to be abysmal to get slated by me on this site, because I always hope to uncover a title that no one else has given time to. This however is DEFINITELY not one of those.
So what did Mr.Creepo (The film’s producer and a guy so egotistical that he makes his characters discuss whether they would go to bed with him) – do wrong? Well, in the UK, they have the descriptive term ‘chav’. If that word is unfamiliar to you, then this explanation will not be. ‘Chavs’ are people generally aged between fifteen and thirty-five who don’t work, live off benefits, have minimal education, wear baseball caps, swear http://aslashabovedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/7267265.jpg?w=150&h=103a lot and generally offer nothing except a tax burden to society. They reside in every country and are easier to find than you might think. I don’t like them, you don’t like them and we certainly don’t care to watch them in a movie. Now although I can’t say for sure that these girls are actually chavs; I can dislike their vulgar talk, lack of class and generally low level conveyance. The plot could have instead tried to build personalities that we care about, but there’s not even one.
Every second word from their mouths is either about sex or their boobies, which to be fair is all that they have to offer. It’s perhaps worth noting that Hook is billed as a horror/comedy. But the only horror to be found here is the inane attempt every now and then to behttp://aslashabovedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/f.jpg?w=150&h=100 humorous. These ‘jokes’ are so unevenly placed that they make little sense.
There is one, believe it or not, very good shot. It shows the killer creeping up behind our final girl, who as you may have already guessed happens to be Ms Rochon. But one and only the one decent moment in a hundred and twenty-five minute flick is just not good enough and the film, like the aforementioned chav, has nothing left to redeem it.
A wiseman once said that the key to a good life is making the most of every minute because as each one passes, you never get them back. I urge you not to waste yours on Sandy Hook as it is without a shadow of a doubt as rancid as a night in a decaying concrete tomb. Forget it
Slasher Trappings:

Killer Guise: √√√√

Gore: √

Final Girl: √√

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I found this helpful post at Project Avalon messageboard with the above & more, Link to Post #13 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53354-The-Dead-Sandy-Hook-Kids-MAY-STILL-BE-ALIVE-NOW&p=602470&viewfull=1#post602470)


Re: The "Dead" Sandy Hook Kids MAY STILL BE ALIVE NOW


Here’s some info I found while scouring the net that I think may be interesting to some researchers regarding decoding of the Sandy Hook / Newtown tragedy as well as the Aurora and The Dark Knight Rises connections.

On the cover of a strangely named vhs slasher movie from the year 2000 entitled “SANDY HOOK LINGERIE PARTY MASSACARE” ! (Link below)
(notice the spelling mistake of the word massacre on the released versions cover) it clearly says “deadly hurricane” ! and the intentionally misspelled title could be a take on “Mass of Care” as in the Bohemian Grove Cremation of Care?

A review of the movie by Luisito Joaquín González, first paragraph Quote: “So here we have Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre. Let’s say that again, SANDY HOOK LINGERIE PARTY MASSACRE! What do you think of when you see that combination of words? What’s in a title anyway? Does it have a cryptic meaning? Who is Sandy Hook? What on earth am I writing about? Let’s move on…”

The review http://aslashabove.com/2012/07/20/sa...e-2000-review/ (http://aslashabove.com/2012/07/20/sandy-hook-lingerie-party-massacre-2000-review/) was posted on the day of the Aurora shooting July 20 2012 and has been confirmed via google cache.

This is Google's cache of hxxp://aslashabove.com/2012/07/. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Nov 30, 2012 05:22:24 GMT. http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:qow4IajjwL4J:aslashabove.com/2012/07/%20Sandy%20Hook%20Lingerie%20Party%20Luisito%20Gon zalez&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

A map overlay of Gotham City and Sandy Hook / Newtown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWbGKuOipR0

And According to Wikipedia, Gotham City was included in the tv series 'Young Justice' episode "Schooled" and was located in southwest CONNECTICUT !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weIYOQyLwS8

Bruce Wayne AKA Batman was tapped for skull and bones @ 4.13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm9aadkgPig

IMHO these are indicators that something very strange is going on and that they are not just some random coincidences. What do you think ?

[Glass]

Does anyone have any idea what the two black blotches are next to Lanza's car?? ???

Also, note how the car is parked all nice and square OUTSIDE the striped area (and not right up on top of the entrance...wtf?).

http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Newtown-2.jpg

Looking for edit information. Haven't found any yet. This is the information I get from that picture:

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[sunshine05]

DateTimeOriginal: 2012-12-14T15:21:12+08:00

What time would that have been taken?

[Awoke]

I don't know how they get the participants to go along with it. Giffords was a congresswoman. If she wasn't shot in the head, how did they get all the EMTs and medical people at the hospital to go along with that? How did they get her husband, who is an astronaut to go along with it? How do they get all the law enforcement people to go along with any of these frame ups? Is everybody in this country corrupt? Or is everybody afraid career death or of being killed if they don't conform and obey? Isn't there a single person who can figure out what is going on and willing to talk about it? That is what is most remarkable about all these shootings.

Hatha, the satanic cult is so massive that you cannot imagine it. Their numbers are huge and their players cover all positions. They all take blood oaths and would kill their own children at the behest of the cult hierarchy. Compartmentalization is used in a big way, but where that doesn't work, reminders of loyalty to the satanic cause, or threats of violence/career destruction/defamation work to motivate the members.

"Is there no help for the widows son?"

They will do anything.

[Awoke]

And I just want to go on record saying that the people here should really appreciate what an asset Patcolo is to the research community.

[Glass]

DateTimeOriginal: 2012-12-14T15:21:12+08:00

What time would that have been taken?

To me, this says the camera is set up for GMT
+ 8 means its probably a Hong Kong or Singapore sourced camera. Assuming the time is correct.
Connecticut is GMT -5.
So I think DateTimeOriginal = 10:21:12 am in Connecticut time. (GMT -5)

It might be DateTimeOriginal - 13hrs. (02:21:12) I'm not sure about that one.

[midnight rambler]

Black splotches are cutouts of K9, possibly indicating the feds are also there,

What leads you to say that? I'm not seeing it.

original image can be enlarged here - http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Newtown-2.jpg

[PatColo]

^^^ haha thanks Awoke. But I mostly ride on the shoulders of giants, and pass along the nuggets they find ;)

like these clips linked above, but I hadn't actually watched the YTs when I posted. I since have, pretty astounding,

Gotham City in the series 'Young Justice' was located in southwest CONNECTICUT!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weIYOQyLwS8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weIYOQyLwS8

ALERT!!! SANDY HOOK MAP OVERLAY ON GOOGLE MAPS IS AN EXACT MATCH!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWbGKuOipR0)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWbGKuOipR0

advance to 4:13 - Illuminati - Batman's Grandfather FOUNDED the Skull & Bones - Must See!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm9aadkgPig)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm9aadkgPig

and notice how after the skull/bones line, a party guest finds a hook in his grub, which Batman & Robin take back to the bat cave for further analysis... :o

[PatColo]

advance to 4:13 - Illuminati - Batman's Grandfather FOUNDED the Skull & Bones - Must See!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm9aadkgPig)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJDs1cg9Eo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJDs1cg9Eo

[PatColo]

Rense hour with Gordon Duff (whose revelations have dubious repute!) last night, it's all sandy hook (I'm half through)- 44 mins comm free,


Listen (http://www.talkshoe.com/resources/talkshoe/images/swf/lastEpisodePlayer.swf?fileUrl=http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/5u3d11ftfw/rense.20121226.2of3.mp3) Download (http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/5u3d11ftfw/rense.20121226.2of3.mp3) Hour 2 - Gordon Duff (http://www.veteranstoday.com/) - Editor-in-Chief, Veterans Today America At The Crossroads

[Horn]

^^^ haha thanks Awoke. But I mostly ride on the shoulders of giants, and pass along the nuggets they find ;)

I posted that Lingerie party link 2 weeks ago, and the reviews were terrible.

[sunshine05]

To me, this says the camera is set up for GMT
+ 8 means its probably a Hong Kong or Singapore sourced camera. Assuming the time is correct.
Connecticut is GMT -5.
So I think DateTimeOriginal = 10:21:12 am in Connecticut time. (GMT -5)

It might be DateTimeOriginal - 13hrs. (02:21:12) I'm not sure about that one.

Thanks. How are you able to access all of the metadata? Do you use photoshop?

[sirgonzo420]

Thanks. How are you able to access all of the metadata? Do you use photoshop?

Here is a website that reads EXIF data from pictures:

http://regex.info/exif.cgi

[midnight rambler]

This all continues to get more and more weird.

"It's still not weird enough for me." --Hunter S. Thompson

What would Hunter say today?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsl2xZO6UcQ&amp;feature=player_embedded

[Cebu_4_2]

So since the sacrifice is today shouldn't there be leaked information from anyone in that area?

[Steal]

No rifle used in CT shooting. Guess the medical examiner was compromised. (this may be old news, have not looked at every page in thread past few days)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30sjtuXcvOE

[midnight rambler]

No rifle used in CT shooting. Guess the medical examiner was compromised. (this may be old news, have not looked at every page in thread past few days)



On the radio dispatch recording you can clearly hear: "We have multiple guns, a rifle and a shotgun." There are way too many inconsistencies.

And consider this - don't you think that the State (of Connnecticut) Medical Examiner was compromised years ago (perhaps was even chosen for the position because he was compromised)?

[madfranks]

No rifle used in CT shooting.

Doesn't matter, don't you see, because he might have used one. This won't stop the push for the "assault" rifle ban, they've got their momentum and they're running with it.

[Cebu_4_2]

On the radio dispatch recording you can clearly hear: "We have multiple guns, a rifle and a shotgun." There are way too many inconsistencies.

What radio dispatch? From what I read the local cops were blocked from entering the scene. Was this all acting like on that training video and none is real?


And consider this - don't you think that the State (of Connnecticut) Medical Examiner was compromised years ago (perhaps was even chosen for the position because he was compromised)?

Simply an actor.

This thing is so fukt up I can't understand any of it.

[Glass]

What leads you to say that? I'm not seeing it.

original image can be enlarged here - http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Newtown-2.jpg

right hand side front of vehicle and right hand rear quarter of vehicle are two very black blotches. Darker than the road repairs and over the top of the no parking markings. It almost looks like some animal cut outs.

[Cebu_4_2]

K9 silhouettes

[General of Darkness]

Does anyone have any idea what the two black blotches are next to Lanza's car?? ???

Also, note how the car is parked all nice and square OUTSIDE the striped area (and not right up on top of the entrance...wtf?).



http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Newtown-2.jpg

If you right click on the image and choose VIEW IMAGE, you can then zoom in. That picture has been photo shopped.

[Agrippa]

right hand side front of vehicle and right hand rear quarter of vehicle are two very black blotches. Darker than the road repairs and over the top of the no parking markings. It almost looks like some animal cut outs.

Maybe the shooter shed his cape and trenchcoat on the way into the school.

[Nitz]

in all these videos comparing the sandy hook google map to the "batman" map...the map they use for comparisons is very clear and from what I have heard from people who have seen the movie is that the map in movie looks nothing like this, that it is blurry and the lighting is low...so where are these people pulling this clear "gotham" map from?....i have not seen movie

[midnight rambler]

in all these videos comparing the sandy hook google map to the "batman" map...the map they use for comparisons is very clear and from what I have heard from people who have seen the movie is that the map in movie looks nothing like this, that it is blurry and the lighting is low...so where are these people pulling this clear "gotham" map from?....i have not seen movie

All Gotham City maps found at Gotham City Map Archives - http://batmangothamcity.net/gotham-city-map-archive/

Map being referred to, this map is specific to Dark Knight Arises (note that all prior maps had this island ID'ed as 'Tricorner' and this is the only Gotham City map which shows an interstate hwy [I-35 interestingly enough and crosses that island they renamed Sandy Hook] which just happens to match the profile of the interstate hwy in Newtown Conn.) -

http://batmangothamcity.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Gotham-map-Dark-Knight-Rises.jpg

[Nitz]

hhaha...can someone please tell me what the deal is with this site? http://wellaware1.com/index.html

the guy claims Wil Smith played the Kansas City Chief who killed his Girlfriend and that Ray Liota IS John Boehner!? hahah wtf?

[Nitz]

All Gotham City maps found at Gotham City Map Archives - http://batmangothamcity.net/gotham-city-map-archive/

Map being referred to, this map is specific to Dark Knight Arises (note that all prior maps had this island ID'ed as 'Tricorner' and this is the only Gotham City map which shows an interstate hwy [I-35 interestingly enough and crosses that island they renamed Sandy Hook] which just happens to match the profile of the interstate hwy in Newtown Conn.) -

http://batmangothamcity.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Gotham-map-Dark-Knight-Rises.jpg

so the map used to superimpose or see the "sandy hook" clearly is NOT in the movie? just on this website?

[midnight rambler]

hhaha...can someone please tell me what the deal is with this site? http://wellaware1.com/index.html

the guy claims Wil Smith played the Kansas City Chief who killed his Girlfriend and that Ray Liota IS John Boehner!? hahah wtf?

It's a disinfo site intended to fuck with people. It's best to avoid it entirely.

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30sjtuXcvOE

Whatever it is its also showing in this video at 1:10

And here

42274228http://diversityhuman.com/hollywood/media/blogs/NEW-Current-Affairs/sandy-hook-elementary-massacre-connecticut/sandy-hook-massacre-student-father.jpg?mtime=13555129474229

This one's tight... no show?

http://thumbnail.newsinc.com/23991626.jpg?w=116&h=73&aspect=nostretch4230

Sumtin's chunky there where it should be...^

http://www.cnycentral.com/news/ndnvideo?id=23882730#.UNz1h6xj3dU

[Shami-Amourae]

Video showing hypocrisy of Hollywood actors who made the "Demand a Plan" video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1SZurGArxE

[Horn]

http://media.spokesman.com/picture_story_item_images/Connecticut_School_Shooting_4_t940.jpg?e9219e083a7 8a4429a18d28d8a24b72ce48bf775http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/lt/lt_cache/thumbnail/400/img/photos/2012/12/16/ef/49/aerial_shot_sandy_hook.jpg

Now you see it, now you don't.

Maybe it was a piece of Lanza's skull?

[JohnQPublic]

Let's start with the f-ing moron's movies where the good guy always hits his target at 100 yds. while tumbling, and the bad guy can't hit the side of a barn at 20 feet.

[EE_]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98TV7OFazFU&feature=youtu.be

[Shami-Amourae]

Let's start with the f-ing moron's movies where the good guy always hits his target at 100 yds. while tumbling, and the bad guy can't hit the side of a barn at 20 feet.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SW7-8C8kL4

[General of Darkness]

Let's start with the f-ing moron's movies where the good guy always hits his target at 100 yds. while tumbling, and the bad guy can't hit the side of a barn at 20 feet.

Fricken troll, WTF prick, you think you own this place? :)

[PatColo]

To Stop Mass Killings, Limit the First Amendment, Not the Second! (http://truthjihad.com/news/?p=249) Posted on December 27, 2012 (http://truthjihad.com/news/?p=249) by kbarrett (http://truthjihad.com/news/?author=2)
http://truthjihad.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/lynchTV.jpg

(http://truthjihad.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/lynchTV.jpg)Time to lynch the corporate monopoly media?



The Bill of Rights is a beautiful thing. The First Amendment protects freedom of expression and freedom of religion, while the Second Amendment mandates that the people ARE the military – in other words, the only kind of military allowed to exist in the USA is the “well-regulated militia” consisting of THE PEOPLE, self-organized, and their privately-held weapons.


No other interpretation of the Second Amendment makes any sense whatsoever. If you don’t like it, amend the Constitution (http://www.foavc.org/) – don’t torture logic!


Today, the First Amendment is on life support. Since the coup d’état on September 11th, 2001 (http://www.bollyn.com/solving-9-11-the-book), the USA has gone to war against the religion and people of Islam. So much for freedom of religion. And many thousands of people, including Sami al-Aryan and Tarek Mehanna (http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2012/04/tarek-mehanna-for-president-open-letter.html), have been imprisoned for their political opinions as well as their religion. So much for freedom of expression.


But the First Amendment isn’t entirely dead. Enough of it survives in the hearts of minds of the people that many serious dissidents, including yours truly, are still on the loose.


The Second Amendment, however, is as dead as Monthy Python’s proverbial parrot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218). (Except maybe in Switzerland, where the “Swiss Army” consists of the entire adult population of Switzerland, every one of whom is required to own a machine-gun and keep it in a locked box in case someone is stupid enough to invade that country and challenge its “well-regulated militia.”)


Nobody, not even Hitler and Napoleon, is ever dumb enough to invade Switzerland.


The whole point of the Second Amendment was to prevent any armed bureaucratic organization, whether “police” or “military,” from ever raising its ugly head. The Founders (at least the smart ones) knew that unless the people ARE the military and police, they will be oppressed and exploited by the bureaucracies that control the guns.


In other words, power does indeed grow out of the barrel of a gun. The only way for the people to have the power, is for the people to have the guns. It really is that simple.


Unfortunately, the USA, unlike Switzerland, is in an advanced state of civilizational decline. Loonies, Operation Gladio (http://911blogger.com/node/2582)style false-flag killers, and various combinations thereof regularly commit mayhem with the relatively light weapons they are able to obtain.


And since the real meaning of the Second Amendment is so profoundly at odds with today’s reality, after every massacre, an anti-gun mob starts howling for even more restrictions on privately-held guns – without ever calling for the Operation Gladio professional killers, and all of the other armed bureaucracies including police and military agencies, to be similarly disarmed, as the Second Amendment mandates.


Meanwhile, the so-called “gun nuts” of the NRA respond by touting the talking points of the firearms industry.


Any way you slice it, the gun nuts are right about one thing: Banning and regulating weaponry is not going to stop crazy, evil people from committing massacres. Anybody who wants to can easily massacre at least a couple of dozen people, maybe more, without using any “weapons” at all.


Regulating and restricting privately-held firearms – which the Second Amendment would seem to prohibit – cannot possibly stop massacres. But regulating and restricting free speech – i.e. violating the First Amendment – probably could.


Here’s how: Simply pass a law prohibiting any professional media outlet from covering any massacre.


When crazy people commit these massacres, it is because they have seen similar massacres in the media, and gotten excited about them (like everybody else, only more so). They see that committing a massacre is by far the easiest ticket to fame. Any idiot can make their name a household word simply by murdering a whole bunch of innocent people.


And when Operation Gladio professionals commit these massacres, their purpose is to use the media coverage to manipulate popular opinion in service to an authoritarian political agenda.


Any way you slice it, the real culprit in these massacres is THE MEDIA.


Who says that twenty-six deaths in a school is nationwide news, while twenty-six deaths on the highways are ignored? THE MEDIA. Why? Because by hyping the exciting, melodramatic nature of school massacres, and whipping up fear and hysteria, they can MAKE MONEY.


The media are getting rich by lapping up the blood of the murdered children of Newtown, Columbine, and all the other places where lucrative wall-to-wall coverage has, in effect, celebrated the exploits of a mass killer.


It gets worse. Believe it or not, the media are often directly involved in the Gladio-style operations that massacre civilians. For example: The corporate-monopoly media, owned by 9/11 conspirators, was profoundly complicit in the terrorist attacks of 9/11. If you don’t believe it, check out the pre-scripted performances of Harley Guy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0wHeekgPqk), Jerome Hauer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj0Rz9ZsDAg), Ehud Barak (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAueLjdKh1s), and Jane Standley of the BBC (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/bbc_wtc7_videos.html); or watch the evidence of foreknowledge broadcast shortly before 9/11 in these episodes of The Lone Gunman (http://www.infowars.com/print/Sept11/pp_sept11.htm) and The Simpsons (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKkEq0n6gPY).


The film V for Vendetta (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKvvOFIHs4k) got this exactly right.


Today, the corporate monopoly media are the real terrorists. They are the ones who are terrorizing us. They brainwash us into fearing “Islamic terrorism,” even though you’re far more likely to be struck by lighting than to be killed by any kind of terrorist; and even though Muslims commit less terrorism than radical Jews, leftists, and hispanics.


Maybe it’s time for President Obama to use his insanely unconstitutional power to order drone strikes against suspected terrorists, and “take out” every key player in every major US corporate media outlet. I mean, if you’re going to shred the Constitution, you might as well go all the way.


Yes, some might call that a violation of the First Amendment. But compared to the violations that have made the Second Amendment a dead letter, executive assassination of every significant player in every significant corporate media organization would be a relatively minor transgression.


And if you think that’s going too far, we could always just prohibit big media from covering massacres (including “terrorist attacks”). Word could still leak out through the non-professional internet media, so we’d all still know what was going on. In fact, we’d probably have a more accurate idea of what really happened at Newtown, or 9/11 for that matter, if everything went straight from those involved to the non-professional media, without the filtering of the professional liars and propagandists.


Severely restricting big media would actually enhance freedom of expression overall. One could even argue that if we really want to respect the spirit of the First Amendment, we should completely shut down the Orwellian corporate media propaganda machine.


And if that’s going too far, maybe we could at least start by convincing the media to act responsibly, and turn the volume way, way down on its coverage of massacres.


Obviously, if we did that, the attacks would stop.


But does anybody, in our corporate-media-brainwashed society of the spectacle, really want them to stop?


http://truthjihad.com/news/?p=249

[Glass]

"I need my 30 rd mag for my AR-15 to go hunting... yuck yuck yuck"

I don't get this. The 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting

[Steal]

I don't get this. The 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting

No, and it was pretty awsome hearing Jessie Ventura say exactly what it is for on national tv in front of Piers Morgans smug ass face.

[mamboni]

Per Zerohead at ZeroHedge (Lanza used pistols, not a rifle, right?):

the local paper quotes the school principal (original deleted this is the
goog cache)



Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn
Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and
started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count – that went "on and
on." http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xDwcObxapXIJ:newtow... (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xDwcObxapXIJ:newtownbee.com/News/News/2012-12-14__11-05-25/)




only problem is she was killed



Munson-Lovetere Funeral Home was no match for the mourners of Dawn
Hochsprung, the principal of Sandy Hook Elementary School who died Friday
lunging at the gunman to try to stop his terrorizing attack.

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-12-19/national/35929806_1_math-t... (http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-12-19/national/35929806_1_math-teacher-sandy-hook-dream-house)

now I don't know bout you but the little local paper that was on the scene, I
mean do you think they made that up and quoted the principal knowing she was
dead?





PS this is the redacted article from the little local paper with no mention
of ms. Hochsprung http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=&d=27025525379957592&mkt=en-US&setlang=... (http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=&d=27025525379957592&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=O14cGGIZzsLkjHs_S4P7GIcfsvvPaK78)

[madfranks]

By the way, I want to give a big thumbs up to everyone here digging up and posting the real relevant info. You guys are all better investigative reporters that any of the mass media "reporters" reading their scripts handed to them by the controllers. This thread illustrates why mainstream media reporting is dead and/or dying across the nation. This is what journalism is supposed to be!

[Hatha Sunahara]

Has anyone seen any pictures of dead bodies? Or injured people? How do we know the whole thing wasn't just a big'exercise'?


Hatha

[midnight rambler]

Has anyone seen any pictures of dead bodies? Or injured people? How do we know the whole thing wasn't just a big'exercise'?


Hatha

Interestingly ANY evidence from the crime scene at Sand Hook School is extremely tightly controlled, as in NONE being available. We've gotten a few overhead shots from a nooz helicopter and that's IT. That is so surreal and bizarre.

Meanwhile one can find all sorts of photos of the school massacre in Russia (Beslan) including plenty of dead bodies and photos of the wounded children (without their faces obscured).

[madfranks]

Interestingly ANY evidence from the crime scene at Sand Hook School is extremely tightly controlled, as in NONE being available. We've gotten a few overhead shots from a nooz helicopter and that's IT. That is so surreal and bizarre.

Meanwhile one can find all sorts of photos of the school massacre in Russia (Beslan) including plenty of dead bodies and photos of the wounded children (without their faces obscured).

Also, what is strange, if you recall the photos after the Colorado theater shooting, there was blood everywhere, stained all over the sidewalks. And here, almost 30 people dead but no blood anywhere to be seen. Not just on the ground, but on the people too, not a single photo of blood stained hands or clothes, that I have seen.

[Glass]

So I think this image was taken
http://diversityhuman.com/hollywood/media/blogs/NEW-Current-Affairs/sandy-hook-elementary-massacre-connecticut/sandy-hook-massacre-student-father.jpg?mtime=1355512947
before this one
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4230&d=1356658665

Why those splotches disappear is beyond me. I noticed in one of the images a sherrif is stepping right on top of the splot near the front of the car. Anyway it's clear something is being redacted.

Some other forums had quite a bit of discussion and disection of all the info. These seem to have been steam rollered now so no discussion could be had.

I'm not sure about claims:
the Parker father was an actor.
the girl was photographed after death - with Obama no less
the Ryans have been on TV before as parents of a child during another event - I thought I saw 2 photos supporting this but cannot locate now
the Pshycologist, weird or scared witless. Story doesn't make sense and some comments he made could be read a couple ways
the car is not shooters mothers car. A big argument about this but I thought someone looked this up and matched the towed car to Christopher Rodia

[General of Darkness]

the car is not shooters mothers car. A big argument about this but I thought someone looked this up and matched the towed car to Christopher Rodia

No the car belongs to the felon they found in the woods. Let me try and find it.

[General of Darkness]

Glass this is what I found so far and then found this other video just lambasting that fucking kike Rosen as a lying acting sack of shit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs8ITUoe07I


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keOG2piLGsM

Fucken horrible shell game being played here but people are figuring this out.

[Horn]

So I think this image was taken
http://diversityhuman.com/hollywood/media/blogs/NEW-Current-Affairs/sandy-hook-elementary-massacre-connecticut/sandy-hook-massacre-student-father.jpg?mtime=1355512947
before this one
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4230&d=1356658665


What makes you think the splotches were taken away, or without was a later one?

My thinking was someone through down some patch tar to cover up something.

[Horn]

Another photo of the car.

4236

[Horn]

Maybe it was a garment, or something? this angle it has more of a 3d relief.

http://tribwpmt.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/sandy-hook.jpg?w=900

[sunshine05]

I looked up the "father" of one of the "victims", Mark Barden. He has a website, is in the music business markbarden.com. He has a memorial fund on his site, bardenfund.com. I looked up the website registration and Dravot Carnehan / Peter Barossi set up the site.

He is involved in film and photography. He worked on a film called Loop Dreams created by Captured Time Productions. http://peterbarossi.com/production/

List of clients:
http://peterbarossi.com/about/clients/


They definitely have some agendas, a film about abortion and a film about globalism. Barossi worked on "Loop Dreams". I find it interesting - the link to films and photography and Hollywood in light of the weirdness surrounding Sandy Hook.
http://www.capturedtimeproductions.com/

ETA: Barossi's website

[madfranks]

What makes you think the splotches were taken away, or without was a later one?

My thinking was someone through down some patch tar to cover up something.

Many of the people are wearing black or dark jackets, maybe a few of them got warm and left their coats on the ground for a while... ? Just thinking out loud.

[Tumbleweed]

After they've completed their investigation the school will probably be demolished and shipped to China.

I'm just thinking out loud too.

[General of Darkness]

A lot of shit in this video that hasn't been discussed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EEKqcRELz4&feature=player_embedded

[mamboni]

I only have patience to watch the first half right now. But that is not a professional medical examiner; that guy is an actor and a loon on psychotropric drugs. Seriously, the ME's conduct is so inappropriate and wrong. As for the father: he acts like it's a big hoax or joke. Then he goes into the "I'm devastated" act.

Something is not right about this whole shooting incident.

Where are graphic images of bloodied bodies?

Why is the staging area half a mile away at the Firehouse?

Why is there a private company that specializes in depicting realistic public scenes of mass murder by lone gunmen using professional actors? Who the heck came up with this business model and who are his clients? Who pays these people? Who needs this type of service? How the heck would the viewer on TV know a mock mass murder from a real one? It's entirely dependent on what the media says it is. Think about that. Is this Sandy Hook incident a false flag? After all, all you know is the images shown to you and the narration provided by the media, the same media that said arab terrorists brought down the twin towers with box cutters.

This is so so wrong.

[gunDriller]

I looked up the "father" of one of the "victims", Mark Barden. He has a website, is in the music business markbarden.com. He has a memorial fund on his site, bardenfund.com. I looked up the website registration and Dravot Carnehan / Peter Barossi set up the site.

He is involved in film and photography. He worked on a film called Loop Dreams created by Captured Time Productions. http://peterbarossi.com/production/

List of clients:
http://peterbarossi.com/about/clients/


They definitely have some agendas, a film about abortion and a film about globalism. Barossi worked on "Loop Dreams". I find it interesting - the link to films and photography and Hollywood in light of the weirdness surrounding Sandy Hook.
http://www.capturedtimeproductions.com/

ETA: Barossi's website


it fits in with the demographics of Connecticut. it's about 10% Jewish, and a lot of the towns, including Newtown, are bedroom communities for people who work in New York City.

the daily routine for many of them is - drive to the train station, take the train into New York City.

same thing in reverse at the end of the day.

it's logical that there would be some 'media outposts' in bedroom communities like Newtown. NYC might be one of the primary hubs for the the media & entertainment & advertising industries (Jew Central), but there's plenty of tentacles in Westchester ... White Plains ... Stamford ... Westport - etc.

[sunshine05]

They haven't even shown us the surveillance videos from the front of the building, photos from the scene, even the front entrance - nothing. We heard the lengthy dispatch video but NO actual 911 calls from the school. Not even photos of the girl who was covered in blood from head to toe, the one who was "playing dead".

The fact is that they can get away with this - creating news stories that are completely fabricated because the majority of Americans believed the official story and have since moved on.

[Horn]

Many of the people are wearing black or dark jackets, maybe a few of them got warm and left their coats on the ground for a while... ? Just thinking out loud.

Ha, yeah let me just hang my coat on the shooters car here for a while... lol

I dunno, the things clearly look out of place there anyway, like GoD said that one photo looked touched compared to the others.

Then the one without any "sploch" has sumtin lumpy in there. Maybe covering with plastic until forensics gets there?

[sunshine05]

Yes, something is seriously wrong in the photo. They were hiding something.

[midnight rambler]

Why is the staging area half a mile away at the Firehouse?

Sandy Hook School was PERFECTLY situated in such a way as to completely isolate the 'crime scene' from prying eyes, hence the firehouse was the perfect 'staging area'. (and actually the firehouse is ~1/4 mile from the school, not 1/2 mile)

[palani]

Ready to prosecute independent thinkers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4CT4boLPrU

If it doesn't come from this microphone it is not official.

[Cebu_4_2]

Where is Chad and his take on his friend of a friends child?

[Glass]

Maybe it was a garment, or something? this angle it has more of a 3d relief.

http://tribwpmt.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/sandy-hook.jpg?w=900

In this photo the item lying in front of the car. I think you are right. possibly some kit from one of the military guys, who seem to be everywhere in that photo.

The thing is though that one at the front is not in the same position as the blotch on other images. If you drew a line from that kit straight up towards all those soldiers to the very next yellow line, that would be about where the redacted bit was.

[collector]

Ready to prosecute independent thinkers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4CT4boLPrU

If it doesn't come from this microphone it is not official.

So when are they going to prosecute the lying coroner who said that the kids were killed with a long rifle?.

[palani]

So when are they going to prosecute the lying coroner who said that the kids were killed with a long rifle?.

Who says they weren't?

[collector]

Who says they weren't?

NBC News http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98TV7OFazFU who has recently been told by both sate and federal officials

[Glass]

NBC News http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98TV7OFazFU who has recently been told by both sate and federal officials

it doesn't mean they weren't, but your question is valid. To keep up the narrative there should be a fix there. Either the guys lying or everyone was killed with a long gun. The ME does qualify what he says by saying "all the ones I have seen". So at that time either he hadn't finished looking at everyone or he wasn't going to look at all of them and delegated some to another ME. It's likely there'd be more than on examiner. I'd like to know how many he looked at.

[Horn]

In this photo the item lying in front of the car. I think you are right. possibly some kit from one of the military guys, who seem to be everywhere in that photo.

The thing is though that one at the front is not in the same position as the blotch on other images. If you drew a line from that kit straight up towards all those soldiers to the very next yellow line, that would be about where the redacted bit was.

Why anyone would lay anything down in that area (other than to protect evidence from elements) is beyond me.

Right, see what you mean, as it appears larger in the other photos.. why that one soldier is crossing over the area is also strange.

http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Newtown-2.jpghttp://tribwpmt.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/sandy-hook.jpg?w=900

[Glass]

My mistake looking at those two again. The way you describe it is 100% right. I thought that front blacked out bit was in a different place altogether but it's in the same place on both images.

Do you think maybe it's a dead person? Would the proportions be right for a young adult? from the angle is seems possible but I don't know about the vertical.

On the dispatch recording, when the officer radios in he see's 2 of em, at about 90 seconds in, it sounds to me like there is gun fire as well. 2 shots. just wondering if a couple people got shot out front.

[palani]

NBC News http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98TV7OFazFU who has recently been told by both sate and federal officials
All that news article says is that ONE AR-15 was found in the shooters car and (apparently) not used in the shooting and that (4) handguns were found inside the school. This says nothing about another rifle not being used to kill victims.

[collector]

it doesn't mean they weren't, but your question is valid. To keep up the narrative there should be a fix there. Either the guys lying or everyone was killed with a long gun. The ME does qualify what he says by saying "all the ones I have seen". So at that time either he hadn't finished looking at everyone or he wasn't going to look at all of them and delegated some to another ME. It's likely there'd be more than on examiner. I'd like to know how many he looked at.

No, the news report now states that 4 handguns were taken into the school - only handguns were taken into the school.
He had taken the assault rifle but left it in the car.

Imagine you're the medical examiner. Supposedly each kid was shot 5 times - that's over 100 hits. I'm sure there would also be many more misses and you'd have bullets going through glass windows, hitting the walls, getting lodged in closets etc. Now imagine the floor - bullet casings everywhere as well as empty mags. Anyone who has any knowledge of firearms can pick up that casing, look on the back and see either 9mm or .223 or whatever. Dr Creepy is so careful not to say what caliber bullet killed the kids but he is willing to go on record saying that the bullets that killed came from a rifle - since none was taken into the school, this is a deliberate lie - no error, no omission, a lie !

[palani]

he is willing to go on record saying that the bullets that killed came from a rifle - since none was taken into the school, this is a deliberate lie - no error, no omission, a lie !

How do you know no rifle was taken into the school?

[collector]

All that news article says is that ONE AR-15 was found in the shooters car and (apparently) not used in the shooting and that (4) handguns were found inside the school. This says nothing about another rifle not being used to kill victims.

you'll have to re-watch the video from the 28 second mark forward. if no rifle was brought into the school, I have serious doubts a loaded one was laying around for him to pick up and use it on the kids.

[palani]

you'll have to re-watch the video from the 28 second mark forward. if no rifle was brought into the school, I have serious doubts a loaded one was laying around for him to pick up and use it on the kids.

You are making a presumption that he was the only killing platform operating that day.

[collector]

You are making a presumption that he was the only killing platform operating that day.


Since no one else was officially charged then it's a safe assumption. This is THEY'RE fable - they're controlling it and cloaking it with secrecy, trying to get everyone involved on the same page. If they can't even do that and they're having to change their story, everyone involved in the deception should be charged with a crime just as they want to charge individuals for POSTING false information.

[palani]

Since no one else was officially charged then it's a safe assumption.

I prefer to make NO assumptions. I also make no accusations. There appears to be conflicting facts associated with this event.

[collector]

I prefer to make NO assumptions. I also make no accusations. There appears to be conflicting facts associated with this event.

Personal choice - I choose not to give carte blanche for terrorists the time they need to create the perfect lie.
I posted a video where the media has announced that no rifle was brought into the school and that 4 handguns were found - medical examiner said kids were shot with a rifle. Police said there was only one shooter....someone is intentionally lying

[BrewTech]

I don't get this. The 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting

That's why my (presumably uninvited) reply was "nobody said anything about hunting".

[palani]

someone is intentionally lying
Police have no qualms about lying to your face. This is a proven fact.

Has a grand jury been seated yet? Has an indictment been brought against anyone?

[Norweger]

The entire thing is one giant hoax and what makes it so hard to accept for the common man is the number involved. We are talking several thousand if not tens of thousand people.

Hell is BIG.

[collector]

Police have no qualms about lying to your face. This is a proven fact.

Has a grand jury been seated yet? Has an indictment been brought against anyone?

Of course not but these videos should be saved to hard drives because anyone facing trumped up charges about posting "misleading information" can use these in their defense. Again, it's important to document official lies in order to wake people up to what's going on here. It's been proven that major networks will alter file footage, change audio or edit video from their own archives (Fox after 9/11) so it's important to save this stuff and spread it everywhere to expose the outright lies and fabrications. I won't hold my breath for indictments but if it happens or if people demand it from their representatives - that'll be a bonus. In the meanwhile we should all do our part to document and spread this information

[collector]

The entire thing is one giant hoax and what makes it so hard to accept for the common man is the number involved. We are talking several thousand if not tens of thousand people.

Hell is BIG.

I think in this particular hoax, a lot of people have been compartmentalized. They have their role and are told it's for whatever reason (super secret ongoing drill, etc) but I think we all know this thing is about pushing gun control just like OKC was about anti-terrorism bills and security in federal buildings as well as BATF funding. In OKC they tried to blame militia but that failed so they used other means to break apart groups dedicated to defending the constitution and opposed to UN influence.

I agree - there's a lot of people involved in the bigger globalism picture but the number is negligible when compared to the amount of people in this country

[Hatha Sunahara]

Here are a couple of links to other endeavors in deconstructing what we have been fed by the MSM on Sandy Hook:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-unanswered-questions-and-missing-information/5316776

and Paul Craig Roberts, who describes how the story is 'agenda driven' and that the truth doesn't matter:

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/12/28/agenda-prevails-over-truth/

What I find interesting in all of this is the speed with which the deconstruction has taken place. It's been two weeks since the event, and already a huge list of inconsistencies have been cataloged, and we are entering into the phase where the agenda is starting to override the event itself as the main issue. Does it seem that the people who pull off these grotesque 'mass murder events' are becoming transparent?


Hatha

[sunshine05]

Here are a couple of links to other endeavors in deconstructing what we have been fed by the MSM on Sandy Hook:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-unanswered-questions-and-missing-information/5316776

and Paul Craig Roberts, who describes how the story is 'agenda driven' and that the truth doesn't matter:

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/12/28/agenda-prevails-over-truth/

What I find interesting in all of this is the speed with which the deconstruction has taken place. It's been two weeks since the event, and already a huge list of inconsistencies have been cataloged, and we are entering into the phase where the agenda is starting to override the event itself as the main issue. Does it seem that the people who pull off these grotesque 'mass murder events' are becoming transparent?


Hatha


Unless the inconsistencies are discussed by the MSM, the truth will never be known. Everyone is going along with the official story, just like 911. People will be looking at Sandy Hook for a long time.

I think they will continue to fabricate the news since they see how willingly people believe it and trust it as factual.

[Horn]

On the dispatch recording, when the officer radios in he see's 2 of em, at about 90 seconds in, it sounds to me like there is gun fire as well. 2 shots. just wondering if a couple people got shot out front.

That's about the only thing the MSM has been consistent on,

all the shooting took place within a small perimeter near the entry, inside the school and first adjacent classroom.

This is also strange to me, I would think after the first shots many would flee to other parts away. A teacher may have been delayed only by pitching kids out the windows, for one shooter to cause so much damage in a small perimeter with minor # of injuries seems the work of a professional.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Unless the inconsistencies are discussed by the MSM, the truth will never be known. Everyone is going along with the official story, just like 911. People will be looking at Sandy Hook for a long time.

I think they will continue to fabricate the news since they see how willingly people believe it and trust it as factual.

The MSM is losing credibility. Look at how many people are buying guns. At some point, all the agendas they are pursuing will become apparent to even the least astute among us. You will know when we reach that point when you start hearing really cruel sarcastic jokes about what these people are doing. Like when the Soviet Union was collapsing.


Hatha

[collector]

That's about the only thing the MSM has been consistent on,

all the shooting took place within a small perimeter near the entry, inside the school and first adjacent classroom.

This is also strange to me, I would think after the first shots many would flee to other parts away. A teacher may have been delayed only by pitching kids out the windows, for one shooter to cause so much damage in a small perimeter with minor # of injuries seems the work of a professional.

What has me wondering is how much glass would have been blown out by ricocheting bullets or direct shots ? Every classroom I've seen has an entire wall of windows, you would think with supposedly over 100 shots fired, there would be bullets and glass everywhere in that area of the building. I wish there was some footage of the outside of the classroom(s) involved....I'm having a hard time believing this entire thing wasn't a secret drill using blanks and actors.

[Horn]

Maybe those black blotches are gun sacks from the shooter(s)?

The medical examiner stated all casualties were caused by rifle.