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chad
14th December 2012, 08:48 AM
one of my friends who lives there alerted me via facebook. 2 shooters reported to be on the loose.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/

State police responded to reports of a shooting Friday at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., according to State Police Lt. Paul Vance.
Vance had no information as to possible injuries and no information on the apparent shooter.

Students at Sandy Hook Elementary were taken to a staging area where their parents could pick them up, the Hartford Courant reported (http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-police-responding-to-incident-in-newtown-20121214,0,3969911.story).
NBC Connecticut (http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/State-Police-Responding-to-Shooting-at-School-Police--183498401.html) reported that the entire school district was in lockdown.

Twisted Titan
14th December 2012, 08:52 AM
So thats how they are going to ram it down our throats.

Its for the childeren

Shami-Amourae
14th December 2012, 08:54 AM
Seems like they are doing this more and more to get us to throw up our hands, and demand gun control.

Fuck that. I'm buying more. I don't even care about stacking Gold/Silver now (trust me I have ENOUGH.) I'm all into guns/ammo now.

chad
14th December 2012, 08:55 AM
my friend says the local radio is reporting it's adult shooters, not kids.

Cebu_4_2
14th December 2012, 08:58 AM
I wonder if they are wearing combat fatigues and gas masks?

Ponce
14th December 2012, 09:02 AM
Connecticut School District on Lockdown Following Shooting Report
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A Connecticut school district is on lockdown today following reports of an unconfirmed shooting at an elementary school.

"Due to reports of a shooting as yet unconfirmed, the district is taking preventive measures by putting all schools in lockdown until we ensure the safety of all students and staff," Newton Public School District secretary of superintendent Kathy June said in a statement.

State police are sending units to Newtown following reports of a shooting at an elementary school.

All public and private schools in the town are on lockdown.

A message on the school district website says that all afternoon kindergarten is cancelled today and there will be no mid-day bus runs.

First post of the day..............good snowy morning to one and all.

Steal
14th December 2012, 10:25 AM
public just does not get it. As economy crashes, this will escalate. If its not a gun, people will improvise, irregardless. Guns DONT kill people , PEOPLE kill people.

China School Attack: Knife-Wielding Man Injures 22 Kids, 1 Adult Outside Primary School


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/14/china-school-attack_n_2298430.html

Dogman
14th December 2012, 10:28 AM
That frigging Brit on cnn is going to have a field day.

This is a bad day for honest and responsible gun owners.

This one will be different because it is involving young kids.

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 10:31 AM
Two shooters (allegedly) attacking an elementary school with guns - what's the motivation?? ???

Dogman
14th December 2012, 10:34 AM
Two shooters (allegedly) attacking an elementary school with guns - what's the motivation?? ??? That is the $100,000 question! Time May tell?

PlatinumBlonde
14th December 2012, 10:43 AM
So thats how they are going to ram it down our throats.

Its for the childeren

That's how they did it in the UK. After the school shooting of kids in Dunblane(Scotland, I think), the UK was disarmed..

Cebu_4_2
14th December 2012, 10:47 AM
Two shooters (allegedly) attacking an elementary school with guns - what's the motivation?? ???

It's for the children.

Dogman
14th December 2012, 10:50 AM
So far they are saying 20 people killed and abt 10 kids

Edit: Now 27 people and 18 of them kids.

From k-4th grade!

Shami-Amourae
14th December 2012, 10:59 AM
Wait guys, hold on. There wasn't a shooting.

The school was a gun-free zone. There weren't any guns involved since they are illegal.

Case closed.

EE_
14th December 2012, 11:09 AM
So far they are saying 20 people killed and abt 10 kids

27 dead, 18 children
This is so unbelievable and so sad

vacuum
14th December 2012, 11:16 AM
Here's my theory:

The colorado shooting was designed to get guns banned. However, people saw right through the drugged 'killer' psyop.

What happens when your false flag fails? It's like an antibody. If one fails you have to use one 10x more powerful or what you're trying to kill develops immunity to it.

Therefore, they decided to kill a bunch of kindergarteners. No one can question anything in this scenario!

chad
14th December 2012, 11:22 AM
27 dead, 18 of them kids, still finding more.

that's it folks, no more assault rifles or handguns for you. hope you enjoyed it while it lasted.

Dogman
14th December 2012, 11:23 AM
27 dead, 18 of them kids, still finding more.

that's it folks, no more assault rifles or handguns for you. hope you enjoyed it while it lasted. If anything will light the fire, this sure in the hell is it!

collector
14th December 2012, 11:27 AM
So now they will call to disarm those that had nothing to do with this crime. We should accept the disarming of 329,999,998 innocent people because of the actions of 2 - that may or may not have gov't ties, be on FDA approved pharmaceutical drugs, or have used stolen weapons. Makes as much sense as arresting me because my neighbor ran a red light, the logic being that we both have cars


... get 'em while you can !

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 11:30 AM
"Ok all you gunowners, there goes your argument that if only those 5 y.o. children were armed they could have prevented this."

osoab
14th December 2012, 11:36 AM
"Ok all you gunowners, there goes your argument that if only those 5 y.o. children were armed they could have prevented this."

What about the teachers and school admins?

mamboni
14th December 2012, 11:39 AM
If any of the teachers or security personnel were carrying, the shooters never could have shot that many adults and children. Once the first shot is fired, armed citizens have cause to interdict. On the other hand, a totally disarmed populace is but a herd of defensive sheep to one armed man, making slaughter of innocents en masse and unchecked possible. But the gun control fanatics will have none of this logic. Why?

Cebu_4_2
14th December 2012, 11:41 AM
Who let the shooters into the school? Why didn't any of the adults nip this in the bud? Ahhh gun free school zone, I understand completely.

Is this another made up situation by the MSM? Has anything been confirmed first hand by anyone NOT in the media or on TPTB payroll IE cops, feds etc?

This shit is really pissing me off!

osoab
14th December 2012, 11:44 AM
What are the odds that both of the perps were under psychiatric care?

Hatha Sunahara
14th December 2012, 11:47 AM
I wonder who really does all these 'mass shootings'? The media just reports on patsies set up to take the blame. The cops handling the public relations seem so stupid. Maybe they are setting an example for the public. Doesn't anyone investigating these events have a shred of common sense or critical thinking ability? Or are those qualities disqualifiers for any role in an investigation? Why is it that anyone who does have common sense, and asks the right questions is systematically marginalized and ignored?


Hatha

Cebu_4_2
14th December 2012, 11:48 AM
Whoaa! Again here we go:
Connecticut police: Shooter is deceased inside school building; scene is secure, public is not in danger
There were 2 shooters and now there is only one shooter... where have we seen this before?

collector
14th December 2012, 11:48 AM
Who let the shooters into the school? Why didn't any of the adults nip this in the bud? Ahhh gun free school zone, I understand completely.

Is this another made up situation by the MSM? Has anything been confirmed first hand by anyone NOT in the media or on TPTB payroll IE cops, feds etc?

This shit is really pissing me off!

EXCELLENT POINT !
We're old how wonderful metal detectors are for schools, how great it is to have cops and security guards in the schools and trying to get your kid home requires photo ID and a DNA sample. Yet somehow some guy gets in and opens fire - seems like the schools to blame on THAT breach of security !
This whole incident really makes the best case for home schooling - forget gun control, obviously these administrators can't seem to keep your kid safe not to mention the poor quality of education these gov't institutions dish out

vacuum
14th December 2012, 11:50 AM
Whoaa! Again here we go:
Connecticut police: Shooter is deceased inside school building; scene is secure, public is not in danger


There were 2 shooters and now there is only one shooter... where have we seen this before?

I was shocked when I saw it was 2 shooters. One dead shooter is so much more convenient.

collector
14th December 2012, 11:51 AM
Whoaa! Again here we go:
Connecticut police: Shooter is deceased inside school building; scene is secure, public is not in danger


There were 2 shooters and now there is only one shooter... where have we seen this before?

There's probably a car parked outside the school with no license plate, the perp went to militia meetings and he previously served in the military

palani
14th December 2012, 11:53 AM
Homeschoolers.

Cebu_4_2
14th December 2012, 11:54 AM
Wow 3 victims are hospitalized! 1 shooter dead, now interviewing parents...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/connecticut-sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooting-parent-interview-17974989

Dogman
14th December 2012, 11:58 AM
Now they are saying the death toll will be close to 30.

Cebu_4_2
14th December 2012, 11:59 AM
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Dec. 14, 2012



More than two dozen people, mostly elementary school children, were shot and killed at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school this morning, federal and state sources tell ABC News.
The massacre involved two gunmen and prompted the town of Newtown to lock down all its schools and draw SWAT teams to the school, authorities said today.
One shooter is dead and a manhunt is on for a second gunman. Police are searching cars. One shooter was described as a 24-year-old armed man with four weapons and wearing a bullet-proof vest, sources told ABC News.
It's unclear how many people have been shot, but 25 people, mostly children, are dead, multiple federal and state sources tell ABC News. That number could rise, officials said.
President Obama was briefed on the shooting by FBI Director Robert Mueller.
It is the worst shooting in a U.S. elementary school in recent memory and exceeds the carnage at the 1999 Columbine High School shooting in which 13 died and 24 were injured.
The Newtown shooting comes three days after masked gunman Jacob Roberts opened fire in a busy Oregon mall, killing two before turning the gun on himself.
Today's shooting occurred at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, which includes 450 students in grades K-4. The town is located about 12 miles east of Danbury.
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State Police received the first 911 call at 9:41 a.m. and immediately began sending emergency units from the western part of the state. Initial 911 calls stated that multiple students were trapped in a classroom, possibly with a gunman, according to a Connecticut State Police source.
A photo from the scene shows a line of distressed children being led out of the school.
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Three patients have been taken to Danbury Hospital, which is also on lockdown, according to the hospital's Facebook page.
"Out of abundance of caution and not because of any direct threat Danbury Hospital is under lockdown," the statement said. "This allows us simply to focus on the important work at hand."
CLICK HERE for more photos from the scene. (http://abcnews.go.com/US/slideshow/photos-sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooting-17974409)
Newtown Public School District secretary of superintendent Kathy June said in a statement that the district's schools were locked down because of the report of a shooting. "The district is taking preventive measures by putting all schools in lockdown until we ensure the safety of all students and staff," she said.
State police sent SWAT team units to Newtown.
All public and private schools in the town are on lockdown.
"We have increased our police presence at all Danbury Public Schools due to the events in Newtown. Pray for the victims," Newtown Mayor Boughton tweeted.
State emergency management officials said ambulances and other units were also en route and staging near the school.
A message on the school district website says that all afternoon kindergarten is cancelled today and there will be no midday bus runs.

Norweger
14th December 2012, 12:00 PM
Whoaa! Again here we go:
Connecticut police: Shooter is deceased inside school building; scene is secure, public is not in danger
There were 2 shooters and now there is only one shooter... where have we seen this before?

Utya, Norway.

Shami-Amourae
14th December 2012, 12:04 PM
Maybe they'll link the shooter to Iran too.

EE_
14th December 2012, 12:06 PM
Maybe they'll link the shooter to Iran too.

If the shooters name is Bernie Schwartz, would we be told?

Shami-Amourae
14th December 2012, 12:08 PM
If the shooters name is Bernie Schwartz, would we be told?

No. That would mean it was a ritual sacrifice. ZOG law protects those kinds of murders.

Cebu_4_2
14th December 2012, 12:09 PM
Newtown school shooting story already being changed by the media to eliminate eyewitness reports of a second shooter




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(NaturalNews) The national media is ablaze today with coverage of the tragic elementary school shooting in Newtown, CT, where 27 people have reportedly been killed, including 18 children.

As always, when violent shootings take place, honest journalists are forced to ask the question: "Does this fit the pattern of other staged shootings?"

One of the most important red flags of a staged shooting is a second gunman, indicating the shooting was coordinated and planned. There are often mind control elements at work in many of these shootings. The Aurora "Batman" shooter James Holmes (http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html), for example, was a graduate student actually working on mind control technologies funded by the U.S. government. There were also chemical mind control elements linked to Jared Lee Loughner (http://www.naturalnews.com/030953_Gabrielle_Giffords_shooting.html), the shooter of Congresswomen Giffords in Arizona in 2011.

According to multiple eyewitness reports from Aurora, Colorado, including at least one caught on camera by mainstream media news reports in Colorado, James Holmes did not operate alone. There was a second shooter involved. But the media quickly eliminated any mention of a second shooter from its coverage, resorting to the typical cover story of a "lone gunman."

Today, the exact same thing is happening with the Newton, CT school shooting.

Eyewitness reports of a second shooter now being "scrubbed" from the news

As the story of this shooting was first breaking, the news was reporting a second gunman.

FoxNews reported (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/14/police-respond-to-shooting-at-connecticut-elementary-school/) that this second gunman was "led out of the woods by officers" and then questioned. The original source of this report was the Connecticut Post.

A local CBS affiliate (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/police-respond-to-report-of-school-shooting-in-conn/) was also reporting the existence of a second gunman and said "Police believe there may be a second gunman and are looking for a red or maroon van with its back window blown out..."

ABC News also originally reported (http://abcnews.go.com/US/gunmen-connecticut-elementary-school-shooting-dead/story?id=17973836), "A second gunman is apparently at large. Car-to-car searches are underway."

A local CT CBS affiliate (http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/school-shooting-leaves-multiple-injured/) was also reporting, "CBS News reports that a potential second shooter is in custody and that SWAT is now investigating the home of the suspect. A witness tells WFSB-TV that a second man was taken out of the woods in handcuffs wearing a black jacket and camouflage pants and telling parents on the scene, 'I did not do it.'"

But the more recent stories being put out by the media are scrubbing any mention of a second gunman and going with the "lone gunman" explanation, which holds about as much water as the "lone gunman" explanation of the JFK assassination.

"A lone gunman killed 27 people at an elementary school here, including 18 children, in a terrifying early Friday morning shooting spree," reports USA Today. (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/14/school-shooting-connecticut/1769367/) It makes no mention whatsoever of a second gunman.

NBC News (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/14/15907407-26-dead-after-gunman-assaults-connecticut-elementary-school-official-says?lite) is also now chiming in with the "lone gunman" version of the story, eliminating any mention of a second gunman from its coverage of the tragic event.

Another story authored by NBC News (http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/20347317/multiple-fatalities-in-conn-school-shooting) carries the title, "26 dead after lone gunman assaults Connecticut elementary school." Once again, no mention of a second gunman as reported by eyewitnesses.

When key elements of the story keeps changing, something is fishy

Journalists are trained to ask questions, and one of the questions I have right now is: Why was the second gunman suddenly dropped from media coverage after the first few hours of this story developing?

And why is there always a second gunman in these recent mass shootings that seem to be engineered to maximize emotional shock value due to the sheer horror of all the innocent deaths?

This story is continuing to develop, and we'll keep asking questions here on Natural News (http://www.naturalnews.com). Our hearts and prayers go out to the children and families impacted by this violent tragedy. Given the terrible loss of life that has taken place here, shouldn't we all seek to get to the bottom of WHY these shootings all seem to fit a common pattern of multiple mind-controlled shooters followed by an almost immediate media cover-up of the facts?

For the sake of those children who were killed today, I want to get to the bottom of this and expose the REAL story, for the purpose of stopping this violence from targeting yet more innocents in the future.

PlatinumBlonde
14th December 2012, 12:12 PM
There's probably a car parked outside the school with no license plate, the perp went to militia meetings and he previously served in the military

And is white..

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 12:17 PM
What about the teachers and school admins?


If any of the teachers or security personnel were carrying, the shooters never could have shot that many adults and children. Once the first shot is fired, armed citizens have cause to interdict. On the other hand, a totally disarmed populace is but a herd of defensive sheep to one armed man, making slaughter of innocents en masse and unchecked possible. But the gun control fanatics will have none of this logic. Why?

My own view echos what Patrick Henry had to say on the matter: “The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun.” So I'm definitely have the opinion that good people armed in situations like this could and would mitigate the carnage if not outright prevent it (by the fact that it's common knowledge any shooter would be meet with opposing deadly force). However in this current environment the dominant meme as propagated by the establishment is NO ONE other than state actors 'should' be armed in places where 'the public' gathers. A whole lot of fluoride drinkers* are unable to see through this, and that is our challenge.

Note that the "he was wearing a 'bulletproof vest'" is being played up. How convenient. (IOW, "even if there were armed adults in the school IT'S UNLIKELY they could have neutralized him, besides with someone returning fire there could have been even more casualties."

*this certainly includes tons of folks who consider themselves 'good gunowners' (see my thread on "cause division among them")

Cebu_4_2
14th December 2012, 12:22 PM
Okay, this FF even has me wondering what are they doing right now since the world is glued on guns and children. Of course there will be a media blackout on everything but this for days.

Norweger
14th December 2012, 12:32 PM
This is nothing compared to what the same political entity that wants to ban guns is doing in the middle-east on a daily basis.

chad
14th December 2012, 12:33 PM
i just closed my facebook account. some friends from college were preaching about gun control. i made 1 comment, and i had 7 people who i've known for 18+ years turn on me like wild dogs.

this is THE event in terms of disarming us.

Norweger
14th December 2012, 12:33 PM
Yeah, this is it.

drafter
14th December 2012, 12:34 PM
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/rlanza?fref=ts

He looks Jewish to me. Another Dylon Klebold.

Shami-Amourae
14th December 2012, 12:42 PM
i just closed my facebook account. some friends from college were preaching about gun control. i made 1 comment, and i had 7 people who i've known for 18+ years turn on me like wild dogs.

this is THE event in terms of disarming us.

I keep a Facebook to stay in touch with family/friends, but don't post. I keep it totally blank and don't even put a picture up. You're better off being on the grid, and not being suspicious, than being off the grid, and being suspicious.

drafter
14th December 2012, 12:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyJowcdlGlo

Here he is in a youtube clip also.

Cebu_4_2
14th December 2012, 01:04 PM
i just closed my facebook account. some friends from college were preaching about gun control. i made 1 comment, and i had 7 people who i've known for 18+ years turn on me like wild dogs.


I have mixed results, I just posted the FF article but many others beat me to it. It's like half these people turned a 180 turn and now see reality. This would not have happened a year ago. I will just keep plugging away with my little articles. 4 people mirrored that same article so far. People are really waking up!

messianicdruid
14th December 2012, 01:04 PM
Two shooters (allegedly) attacking an elementary school with guns - what's the motivation?? ???

Eyewitness reports of a second shooter now being "scrubbed" from the news
As the story of this shooting was first breaking, the news was reporting a second gunman.

FoxNews reported that this second gunman was "led out of the woods by officers" and then questioned. The original source of this report was the Connecticut Post.

A local CBS affiliate was also reporting the existence of a second gunman and said "Police believe there may be a second gunman and are looking for a red or maroon van with its back window blown out..."

ABC News also originally reported, "A second gunman is apparently at large. Car-to-car searches are underway."

A local CT CBS affiliate was also reporting, "CBS News reports that a potential second shooter is in custody and that SWAT is now investigating the home of the suspect. A witness tells WFSB-TV that a second man was taken out of the woods in handcuffs wearing a black jacket and camouflage pants and telling parents on the scene, 'I did not do it.'"

But the more recent stories being put out by the media are scrubbing any mention of a second gunman and going with the "lone gunman" explanation, which holds about as much water as the "lone gunman" explanation of the JFK assassination.

"A lone gunman killed 27 people at an elementary school here, including 18 children, in a terrifying early Friday morning shooting spree," reports USA Today. It makes no mention whatsoever of a second gunman.

NBC News is also now chiming in with the "lone gunman" version of the story, eliminating any mention of a second gunman from its coverage of the tragic event.

Another story authored by NBC News carries the title, "26 dead after lone gunman assaults Connecticut elementary school." Once again, no mention of a second gunman as reported by eyewitnesses.


When key elements of the story keeps changing, something is fishy
Journalists are trained to ask questions, and one of the questions I have right now is: Why was the second gunman suddenly dropped from media coverage after the first few hours of this story developing?

And why is there always a second gunman in these recent mass shootings that seem to be engineered to maximize emotional shock value due to the sheer horror of all the innocent deaths?

This story is continuing to develop, and we'll keep asking questions here on Natural News. Our hearts and prayers go out to the children and families impacted by this violent tragedy. Given the terrible loss of life that has taken place here, shouldn't we all seek to get to the bottom of WHY these shootings all seem to fit a common pattern of multiple mind-controlled shooters followed by an almost immediate media cover-up of the facts?

For the sake of those children who were killed today, I want to get to the bottom of this and expose the REAL story, for the purpose of stopping this violence from targeting yet more innocents in the future.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038352_school_shooting_lone_gunman_media_cover-up.html#ixzz2F3gtZWAq

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 01:08 PM
What's up with all the young 20 somethings twisting off and going on killing sprees*? Especially the incidents where they off a parent? A couple weeks ago it was that young fellow in Wyoming who shot his father in the classroom with a bow and arrow. I assert these are indications of a very sick society and has ZERO to do with '*easy* access to guns'.

*mind control

sirgonzo420
14th December 2012, 01:11 PM
Two shooters (allegedly) attacking an elementary school with guns - what's the motivation?? ???

Banning guns, of course. That's actually the most rational thought when the whole situation is taken into consideration. There is, of course, otherwise no motive for such an act. It is not a robbery or a drug deal gone bad, it is a mass execution done by professionals with the intent to shift public opinion. There will be more and more events like this one until the objective is sufficiently achieved or until those in power fall from power.

Black Op Agent goes to victim/"shooter" house, kills someone, kidnaps victim/"shooter", goes to school, shoots children and victim/"shooter", and leaves his corpse to appear as if victim/"shooter" did it all and then killed himself.

Black Op Agent gets picked up by getaway driver, and heads back to HQ, perhaps in a police cruiser dressed as a police officer.

Tune in next time.

mamboni
14th December 2012, 01:12 PM
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/rlanza?fref=ts

He looks Jewish to me. Another Dylon Klebold.

He's a witch! He's a witch!

Ponce
14th December 2012, 01:15 PM
Where is the anger for all those kids worldwide being killed by the US and all those Palestinians kids being killed by the IDF?.....do you think that those parents will just sit down and cry?.......if a country, any country, were to go into Cuba and start killing my people as the US is doing worldwide do you think that I would be sitting here talking to you?...... There will be hell to pay in what is to come. I am also including Japan in the pay back.

BrewTech
14th December 2012, 01:16 PM
I just mentioned shami's comment (school/gun free zone) to a couple of customers that are following the action on farcebook. It went right over their heads, and now they are currently making snide comments about "I need my 30 rd mag for my AR-15 to go hunting... yuck yuck yuck"

Grrrrrrr. I need to go check on my brew.

drafter
14th December 2012, 01:20 PM
He's a witch! He's a witch!

Actually I think he'd be a Warlock then.

Anyways, it appears he was into drama and violent video games. Mother was a teacher. Funny how these crazies always seem to come from what i would consider a liberal background. Maybe they're easier to brainwash.

Shami-Amourae
14th December 2012, 01:22 PM
Actually I think he'd be a Warlock then.

Anyways, it appears he was into drama and violent video games. Mother was a teacher. Funny how these crazies always seem to come from what i would consider a liberal background. Maybe they're easier to brainwash.

Dude, everyone plays violent video games at my age. I've played them with members on this forum. It's normal.

mick silver
14th December 2012, 01:23 PM
this is just one more reason to carry . never leave home without .

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 01:25 PM
Banning guns, of course.

I get that, I'm referring to how the propaganda channels can explain all of this in ANY reasonable way. (they can't) Which is why I asked the question the way I did.

drafter
14th December 2012, 01:25 PM
Dude, everyone plays violent video games at my age. I've played them with members on this forum. It's normal.

Not saying it isn't normal, but something serious had to have been done to this persons head to allow them to shoot 5 year olds. Tinfoil or not, they're being "programmed" by something and it isn't the Andy Griffith show.

Dogman
14th December 2012, 01:27 PM
Sounds like he went after his family, killed his brother at (house?) the goes to the school and kills his mother and most of the kids in her class, then himself??

The others may have been killed while he was going after his mom?

?

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 01:27 PM
Not saying it isn't normal, but something serious had to have been done to this persons head to allow them to shoot 5 year olds. Tinfoil or not, clearly they're being "programmed" by something or somebody and it isn't the Andy Griffith show.

fixed it

Very clearly that's the case.

And my tinfoil hat just happens to filter out all the signals being beamed at me by the alien shitmonkeys who are responsible for all this nonsense. lol

BrewTech
14th December 2012, 01:30 PM
Sounds like he went after his family, killed his brother at (house?) the goes to the school and kills his mother and most of the kids in her class, then himself??

The others may have been killed while he was going after his mom?

?Don't tell me you're trying to piece this together based directly on what the nooz is telling you??

Dogman
14th December 2012, 01:32 PM
Don't tell me you're trying to piece this together based directly on what the nooz is telling you??


Sorta all I see on Booob tub and the net.

But I know for a dam fact that some how and some way "Jakie" did it!

sirgonzo420
14th December 2012, 01:34 PM
I get that, I'm referring to how the propaganda channels can explain all of this in ANY reasonable way. (they can't) Which is why I asked the question the way I did.

Oh I saw what you were doing. I was just pointing out the only "rational" scenario/motive.

Of course, this will be easy for the MSM to handle.

"Obviously no one in their right mind would do something so horrific, so we have to make sure that guns stay out of the hands of the mentally ill. It's time we institute common sense gun policies. Unstable people shouldn't have any access to guns."

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 01:39 PM
Oh I saw what you were doing. I was just pointing out the only "rational" scenario/motive.

Of course, this will be easy for the MSM to handle.

"Obviously no one in their right mind would do something so horrific, so we have to make sure that guns stay out of the hands of the mentally ill. It's time we institute common sense gun policies. Unstable people shouldn't have any access to guns."

Piers Morgan is going to be in total orgasmic ecstasy tonight, completely unable to contain himself.

Dogman
14th December 2012, 01:41 PM
Piers Morgan is going to be in total orgasmic ecstasy tonight, completely unable to contain himself.


Understatement on and of a massive scale. That sob will be foamming at both ends.

sirgonzo420
14th December 2012, 01:55 PM
Piers Morgan is going to be in total orgasmic ecstasy tonight, completely unable to contain himself.

You bet.

Here are some words from Barry Obummer:


“The majority of those who died today are children. Beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10-years-old,” he said. “They had their entire lives ahead of them. Birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own.”

At times, Obama wiped away tears from the corner of his eyes, adding ”Our hearts are broken.”

“As a country, we have been through this too many times,” he said. “These children are our children and we are going to come together to take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this regardless of the politics.”

from http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/police-respond-to-report-of-school-shooting-in-conn/

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 01:55 PM
Scenario is now being presented that alleged shooter killed both parents. Isn't that convenient? (neither parent can be interviewed as a potential witness)

This has NOTHING to do with guns and everything to do with 'Why would a young adult kill (their parents)?'

Indication of a very sick society, and if that sick society is unable to make that connection then that society may just be terminally ill.

mamboni
14th December 2012, 01:55 PM
Oh I saw what you were doing. I was just pointing out the only "rational" scenario/motive.

Of course, this will be easy for the MSM to handle.

"Obviously no one in their right mind would do something so horrific, so we have to make sure that guns stay out of the hands of the mentally ill. It's time we institute common sense gun policies. Unstable people shouldn't have any access to guns."

To whom the correct response is: "Yeah, that is the present gun law, moron. You don't get to buy a gun without a full background check. Check your facts before 'shooting' your mouth off next time."

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 01:57 PM
we are going to come together to take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this regardless of the politics.

TRANSLATION: Standby, we are currently drafting an EO to address this unacceptable condition.

sirgonzo420
14th December 2012, 02:00 PM
To whom the correct response is: "Yeah, that is the present gun law, moron. You don't get to buy a gun without a full background check. Check your facts before 'shooting' your mouth off next time."

Their reply:

"Obviously the background checks aren't good enough if it allows madmen like that to legally obtain a weapon.

Common sense gun policies.... it's for the children.... fuck your rights.... yadda yadda yadda..."



Remember, this is about the masses of people... public opinion. And I hate to say it, but dayum the masses are dumbasses. If TPTB play their cards right, they will get a majority to clamor for strict gun laws.

Steal
14th December 2012, 02:02 PM
I can kind of see the philosophical side on this turning to the families whom begot violence ( severe punishment , beatings etc ) as a form of control over their 'tiny' people will grow those people into violent beings as adults.

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 02:04 PM
To whom the correct response is: "Yeah, that is the present gun law, moron. You don't get to buy a gun without a full background check. Check your facts before 'shooting' your mouth off next time."

I'm thinking you missed that POS limey Piers Morgan the other night where he kept bringing up "40%* of gun sales (i.e. 'private sales' between individuals) are not subject to background checks."

What to expect:

1) 'Closing the *gun show loophole*' (in reality no such thing) whereby it will be made a FELONY to make ANY gun transaction which is not done via NICS (that's right, you cannot give one of your children or any other relative one of your guns 'off the books') - naturally as a matter of 'necessity' there will need to be a registry to keep track of all the guns being transferred.

(NOTE: this would NOT have precluded the Oregon mall shooter from doing what he did)

and 2) the terms 'mentally ill' and 'mentally deranged' will be expanded to include ANYONE who shows ANY interest whatsoever in those extremely evil high capacity guns which use detachable HIGH capacity magazines (if you want to defend yourself 'within your home' then a revolver is more than satisfactory).

*I'm relatively certain this figure is at least 3 times too high

sirgonzo420
14th December 2012, 02:07 PM
I'm thinking you missed that POS limey Piers Morgan the other night where he kept bringing up "40%* of gun sales (i.e. 'private sales' between individuals) are not subject to background checks."

What to expect:

1) 'Closing the *gun show loophole*' (in reality no such thing) whereby it will be made a FELONY to make ANY gun transaction which is not done via NICS (that's right, you cannot give your children one of your guns 'off the books')

and 2) the terms 'mentally ill' and 'mentally deranged' will be expanded to include ANYONE who shows ANY interest whatsoever in those extremely evil high capacity guns which use detachable HIGH capacity magazines (if you want to defend yourself 'within your home' then a revolver is more than satisfactory).

*I'm relatively certain this figure is at least 3 times to high

Dontcha just love the phrase "gun show loophole"?

Uh yeah, you don't have rights; just loopholes.

StreetsOfGold
14th December 2012, 02:08 PM
Meanwhile..............

A knife works just as well as a gun.

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-china-stabbingsbre8bd065-20121213,0,5592318.story

December 14, 2012
BEIJING (Reuters) - A knife-wielding man slashed 22 children and an adult at an elementary school in central China on Friday

sunshine05
14th December 2012, 02:12 PM
We talk about this being a false flag, but it's difficult to understand exactly how they go about doing such a thing. How do we know that the killer really killed his family members, himself and even others at the school? Are they capable of staging the whole thing? What if "they" just put this family in a witness relocation system?

collector
14th December 2012, 02:12 PM
Meanwhile..............

A knife works just as well as a gun.

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-china-stabbingsbre8bd065-20121213,0,5592318.story


December 14, 2012
BEIJING (Reuters) - A knife-wielding man slashed 22 children and an adult at an elementary school in central China on Friday

Knives will be next after guns - we always follow the UK

collector
14th December 2012, 02:14 PM
I'm thinking you missed that POS limey Piers Morgan the other night where he kept bringing up "40%* of gun sales (i.e. 'private sales' between individuals) are not subject to background checks."

What to expect:

1) 'Closing the *gun show loophole*' (in reality no such thing) whereby it will be made a FELONY to make ANY gun transaction which is not done via NICS (that's right, you cannot give one of your children or any other relative one of your guns 'off the books') - naturally as a matter of 'necessity' there will need to be a registry to keep track of all the guns being transferred.

(NOTE: this would NOT have precluded the Oregon mall shooter from doing what he did)

and 2) the terms 'mentally ill' and 'mentally deranged' will be expanded to include ANYONE who shows ANY interest whatsoever in those extremely evil high capacity guns which use detachable HIGH capacity magazines (if you want to defend yourself 'within your home' then a revolver is more than satisfactory).

*I'm relatively certain this figure is at least 3 times too high


Can't do all that without sensible gun registration on the national level. This way we know who has what and can track all movements

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 02:14 PM
Dontcha just love the phrase "gun show loophole"?

Uh yeah, you don't have rights; just loopholes.

Dunno about the gun shows in your locale, but the gun show tables at gun shows here are <1% private sellers with FFLs (and anything but guns) making up the bulk, and the private sellers who are there have a tiny bit of over-priced crap which very few people are interested in. In the recent past I haven't seen a single piece offered for sale by a private seller at a gun show that I'd be remotely interested in even if I was in desperate need.

sirgonzo420
14th December 2012, 02:15 PM
We talk about this being a false flag, but it's difficult to understand exactly how they go about doing such a thing. How do we know that the killer really killed his family members, himself and even others at the school? Are they capable of staging the whole thing? What if "they" just put this family in a witness relocation system?

Dead bodies have less a chance of talking than people in witness protection, but your point is well taken.

sirgonzo420
14th December 2012, 02:16 PM
Dunno about the gun shows in your locale, but the gun show tables at gun shows here are 99% FFLs (and anything but guns), and the private sellers who are there have a tiny bit of over-priced crap which very few people are interested in. In the recent past I haven't seen a single piece offered for sale a private seller at a gun show that I'd be remotely interested in even if I was in desperate need.

Yep, you know what gun shows are like (at least nowadays)!

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 02:22 PM
Conflicting reports - a Bushmaster (AR) was found in his car in one, and the AR was found with the shooter in another report.

BATF reporting "two weapons found with the shooter" - likely the Sig and Glock pistols reported earlier...?

vacuum
14th December 2012, 02:26 PM
Sounds like he went after his family, killed his brother at (house?) the goes to the school and kills his mother and most of the kids in her class, then himself??

The others may have been killed while he was going after his mom?

?

WOW!!!

So his immediate family is dead. Now they can't step forward and tell everyone they don't know what the hell happened and it was not him who did this.

Tumbleweed
14th December 2012, 02:40 PM
I'm wondering if this was a staged shooting too. There was a thread on here awhile back about a drug called "Devils Breath" that the CIA uses. If a person is given a dose of it they will do anything they are told but when they come out from under it they can't remember anything. Could have been used here but the shooter is dead so there won't be a killer with no memory of what happened.

drafter
14th December 2012, 02:51 PM
I'm wondering if this was a staged shooting too. There was a thread on here awhile back about a drug called "Devils Breath" that the CIA uses. If a person is given a dose of it they will do anything they are told but when they come out from under it they can't remember anything. Could have been used here but the shooter is dead so there won't be a killer with no memory of what happened.

You know I have to wonder. I'd love to believe that these are all just random crazies, but it just feels like the Portland shooting mere days ago "went wrong". The kids gun jammed before he could get the body count required to start "Meaningful Action" on gun control. I think TPTB realized that they had to kick it up a notch and go for broke. Only way to do that is to murder innocent kids. Just like they used conveniently placed children as human shields in Oklahoma to destroy the "Militia Movement", they've once again pulled out the "for the children" card. On it's face it just smells like an act of desperation.

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 02:52 PM
I'm wondering if this was a staged shooting too. There was a thread on here awhile back about a drug called "Devils Breath" that the CIA uses. If a person is given a dose of it they will do anything they are told but when they come out from under it they can't remember anything. Could have been used here but the shooter is dead so there won't be a killer with no memory of what happened.

I'm thinking the drug you're referring to (comes from a tree or plant in Colombia) only makes the subject passively compliant to what you're walking them through, e.g. "let's go to your ATM and withdraw all your money"..."Okay" and "let's go to your house or apartment and you can help me load all your possessions into my car"..."okay" - and NOT something which one can 'program' someone to do *proactively* on their own independently of any assistance or prompting especially something so unconscionable as gunning down people.

That said about that 'natural' substance, I wouldn't doubt the Death Cult with the aid of Big Pharma developing something which would do precisely as you described. Shit, Derren Brown proved that he can simply hypnotize someone to kill people on command -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC9J6O6soHA

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 02:55 PM
You know I have to wonder. I'd love to believe that these are all just random crazies, but it just feels like the Portland shooting mere days ago "went wrong". The kids gun jammed before he could get the body count required to start "Meaningful Action" on gun control. I think TPTB realized that they had to kick it up a notch and go for broke. Only way to do that is to murder innocent kids. Just like they used conveniently placed children as human shields in Oklahoma to destroy the "Militia Movement", they've once again pulled out the "for the children" card. On it's face it just smells like an act of desperation.

I bet you dollars to donuts that there are dozens (if not hundreds or even thousands) of mind control subjects who are 'on deck' all ready to 'go to bat' for very specific 'missions' on a moment's notice.

sirgonzo420
14th December 2012, 03:07 PM
So a gunman in black military gear who doesn't say a word.

The parents of the "shooter" are both dead in different locations. Girlfriend and another friend are missing.

Sounds like the clean-up went well for them.

Down1
14th December 2012, 03:15 PM
I was out and about and this was on the news.
I kept heard the word "security" pop up.
I wonder if TSA will make a play to expand massively based on this ?

Gun control might be out of their reach for the moment.

Libertarian_Guard
14th December 2012, 03:16 PM
I'm thinking the drug you're referring to (comes from a tree or plant in Colombia) only makes the subject passively compliant to what you're walking them through, e.g. "let's go to your ATM and withdraw all your money"..."Okay" and "let's go to your house or apartment and you can help me load all your possessions into my car"..."okay" - and NOT something which one can 'program' someone to do *proactively* on their own independently of any assistance or prompting especially something so unconscionable as gunning down people.

That said about that 'natural' substance, I wouldn't doubt the Death Cult with the aid of Big Pharma developing something which would do precisely as you described. Shit, Derren Brown proved that he can simply hypnotize someone to kill people on command -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC9J6O6soHA

The drug is called escopolamina.

It comes from a flower, from a tree.

chad
14th December 2012, 03:21 PM
Breaking:kid was autistic and had aspbergers. And was on meds.

chad
14th December 2012, 06:21 PM
bump. this is unlocked.

osoab
14th December 2012, 06:24 PM
bump. this is unlocked.

How did you lock it accidentally? Inquiring minds want to know.

All right back to the conspiracy.

Hurricane Sandy ------ New York City

Sandy Hook ----- Newtown.

chad
14th December 2012, 06:27 PM
don't know. my last reply was on my iphone, and i was swiping a bunch of stuff around. i guess i must have clicked something by accident. i dind't notice it at the time though, so weird.

Shami-Amourae
14th December 2012, 06:28 PM
http://static.infowars.com/2012/12/i/general/tweetsnra.jpg
http://static.infowars.com/2012/12/i/general/tweets2nd.jpg

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 06:31 PM
Shooter was 20 y.o., not old enough to purchase handguns anyway. So he allegedly used handguns owned by his mom.

So his mom had both a Glock and a Sig along with plenty spare high cap mags (enough to shoot "over 100 rounds")?

Who besides a 'gun nut' has more than one spare mag for their semi-auto pistol??

And what in the world could a 'sweet, kind, kindergarten teacher' do to piss off her 20 y.o. son enough for him to shoot her in the face?? ???

chad
14th December 2012, 06:33 PM
this is it. make no mistake. buy as much as you can, while you can. they're coming for everything semi auto or more than 10 rounds (probably less). mandatory ammo reporting is coming as well (like on cold/allergy medicine). it's on.

mamboni's kid was right after sandy when he said "we need to buy a bunch more guns and ammo now!" mamboni's kid, if you are reading this, hats off to you sir.

Steal
14th December 2012, 06:35 PM
Amen Brotha , ( I do not venture into gun free zones, too risky)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCC4pg0or5I

osoab
14th December 2012, 06:39 PM
Shooter was 20 y.o., not old enough to purchase handguns anyway. So he allegedly used handguns owned by his mom.

So his mom had both a Glock and a Sig along with plenty spare high cap mags (enough to shoot "over 100 rounds")?

Who besides a 'gun nut' has more than one spare mag for their semi-auto pistol??

And what in the world could a 'sweet, kind, kindergarten teacher' do to piss off her 20 y.o. son enough for him to shoot her in the face?? ???


I had read he used two guns. Your saying that they were two different guns. Non interchangeable mags.

So this guy did at least 2 full reloads assuming 17-15 round mags.

This story smells worse by the minute.

I mean no disrespect for the dead. Just to make it clear.

I am waiting to see the list of the departed. I want to know who's kids were killed.

Remember the banker whose nanny killed their kids then slit her own throat...

vacuum
14th December 2012, 06:40 PM
Ok, time to buy weapons and a ton of ammo. Seriously.

If I could edit my posts permanently I'd probably mention a good way to hide this stuff.

Shami-Amourae
14th December 2012, 06:42 PM
http://static.infowars.com/2012/12/i/general/pierstweets.jpg

osoab
14th December 2012, 06:44 PM
don't know. my last reply was on my iphone, and i was swiping a bunch of stuff around. i guess i must have clicked something by accident. i dind't notice it at the time though, so weird.

Fucking Steve Jobs...

AndreaGail
14th December 2012, 06:44 PM
no wonder the hook noses employ this faggot


http://static.infowars.com/2012/12/i/general/pierstweets.jpg

vacuum
14th December 2012, 06:50 PM
no wonder the hook noses employ this faggot

Is this real? It's not a spoof?

Shami-Amourae
14th December 2012, 06:52 PM
Is this real? It's not a spoof?
It's real.
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan

chad
14th December 2012, 06:53 PM
my head is going to explode if i hear one more motherfucker say we need to "ban automatic weapons."

AndreaGail
14th December 2012, 06:56 PM
I agree with those thinking this one might be it

definitely has a different feel from all other prior ones

osoab
14th December 2012, 06:56 PM
my head is going to explode if i hear one more motherfucker say we need to "ban automatic weapons."

Ain't that the best part of teevee and radio. They can spew all they want under these circumstances and no one is allowed on air with them to repute their lies.

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 06:57 PM
Is this real? It's not a spoof?

Some of us are brave enough to 'take one for the team' and actually watch that POS when he's spouting off about gun control.

What you just read are his tame comments without his foaming at the mouth talking over his guests while abusing them.

Horn
14th December 2012, 06:57 PM
Next a ban on glass bottles and gasoline.

Dogman
14th December 2012, 06:58 PM
my head is going to explode if i hear one more motherfucker say we need to "ban automatic weapons."

The devil made me do this! ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-MhgnMX73Pw

Now back to our regular programming!

Cebu_4_2
14th December 2012, 07:05 PM
Is this real? It's not a spoof?

That would be impossible. Number one it is in media although alternative but there is just no way to spoof his picture in the threads. C'mon man you know better than to bring up insignicant things when we should mourn and ask all our friends and neighbors to hand over their guns... to us ;-]

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 07:21 PM
Shooter was most likely on meds -


The gunman, Adam Lanza, was believed to suffer from a personality disorder

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CONNECTICUT_SCHOOL_SHOOTING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-12-14-20-56-42

So when is there going to be a 'national dialogue' regarding the deadly effects of Big Pharma and their mind poison??

Libertarian_Guard
14th December 2012, 07:37 PM
Shooter was most likely on meds -



http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CONNECTICUT_SCHOOL_SHOOTING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-12-14-20-56-42

So when is there going to be a 'national dialogue' regarding the deadly effects of Big Pharma and their mind poison??

When hell freezes over.

zap
14th December 2012, 07:42 PM
I am sorry so many innocent kids were killed, God Bless them and their families.

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 07:46 PM
I am sorry so many innocent kids were killed, God Bless them and their families.

That's ok, we'll just have our pretend 'leader' take out our frustrations on a bunch of completely innocent ragheads in the sandbox with some Predator drone/Hellfire missile strikes and it's all good.

Hope you appreciate that if you're going to make an omelette ya gotta break some eggs.

Ponce
14th December 2012, 07:51 PM
Freaking stupid people....how did he get in? .......... simple..... his mother was a teacher there so that she had a key to the front door.

zap
14th December 2012, 07:56 PM
That's ok, we'll just have our pretend 'leader' take out our frustrations on a bunch of completely innocent ragheads in the sandbox with some Predator drone/Hellfire missile strikes and it's all good.

Hope you appreciate that if you're going to make an omelette ya gotta break some eggs.

Yes I do feel for the "Rag heads" as you call them, ( Iranians, Iraqis, Palestinians) wrong is wrong no matter the reason, this is close to home though, it could have been my daughter.

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 07:59 PM
Yes I do feel for the "Rag heads" as you call them, ( Iranians, Iraqis, Palestinians) wrong is wrong no matter the reason, this is close to home though, it could have been my daughter.

Not to worry, the Death Cult is intent upon providing those (equal) opportunities for you.

(and 'they' do so SOLELY BECAUSE 'we' *let* them)

sunshine05
14th December 2012, 08:15 PM
Some on ATS were discussing the fact that it's odd that there are no reported injuries, only deaths. Meaning the shooter was very skilled for no one to have survived.

drafter
14th December 2012, 08:22 PM
Some on ATS were discussing the fact that it's odd that there are no reported injuries, only deaths. Meaning the shooter was very skilled for no one to have survived.

Yes it makes you wonder where these people get their training doesn't it?

zap
14th December 2012, 08:24 PM
Some on ATS were discussing the fact that it's odd that there are no reported injuries, only deaths. Meaning the shooter was very skilled for no one to have survived.

I don't think it is odd, when you are shooting 5 to 10 yr. olds, its easy to get a kill, skill really? no skill involved just hate and metal retardation, what a sick bastard, fine shoot your MOM but why shoot a bunch of little kids?

I am glad the shooter is dead. to bad he couldn't have suffered a little bit before he died.

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 08:24 PM
Some on ATS were discussing the fact that it's odd that there are no reported injuries, only deaths. Meaning the shooter was very skilled for no one to have survived.

There was the one (and only one as far as I can tell) reported injury where the woman was shot in the leg or foot.

I've been trying to wrap my head around the situation despite the lack of info in that area - was those really his mother's guns, or did he use his brother's ID to purchase them? Where did the spare mags come from? Did he purchase those himself? If not, who bought all those evil black guns?? If he made this purchases himself (over $2,000 in cost for just the three guns), where did he get the money to do so? If he did buy all these himself (acquire the guns, spare mags, and ammo), how did a kid growing up in a non-rural area have a clue about what guns to buy? If this 20 y.o. was somehow 'knowledgeable' about guns, did he intentionally purchase the much more deadly personal defense ammo like Golden Sabers, Winchester Ranger, etc. (this would account for no children surviving)?

And most importantly, what was his history of taking meds and what meds had he been taking recently??

So many questions and of course we're going to be left in the dark in order to further a certain agenda.

Ares
14th December 2012, 08:26 PM
Anyone want to take a bet that this kid was on anti-depressants?

Just check out this video to see how bad these things are and tell me he didn't display the behavior this doctor talks about.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBJfZtB_3cc&feature=youtu.be

Link--> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBJfZtB_3cc&feature=youtu.be

sunshine05
14th December 2012, 08:28 PM
I don't think it is odd, when you are shooting 5 to 10 yr. olds, its easy to get a kill, skill really? no skill involved just hate and metal retardation, what a sick bastard, fine shoot your MOM but why shoot a bunch of little kids?

I am glad the shooter is dead. to bad he couldn't have suffered a little bit before he died.

I'm just saying that if he was under mind control (MKUltra) he may have just been a patsy. Someone else may have done the shooting and then shot him.

Libertarian_Guard
14th December 2012, 08:59 PM
I'm just saying that if he was under mind control (MKUltra) he may have just been a patsy. Someone else may have done the shooting and then shot him.


?

I'am not sure how to form this into a question, but if someone else could have done ALL THAT, then why not just leave the gun and walk away.

People under their own mind can't carry out this kind of stuff on orders.

vacuum
14th December 2012, 08:59 PM
Lets not forget there were 2 gunmen.

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 09:05 PM
I'm thinking that (just about) the ONLY way for someone to get to such a dark place in their own mind (that they are willing to kill young children) is via pharmaceuticals. (Kurt Vonnegut referred to this sort of condition as "having bad chemicals in his head" in his work Breakfast of Champions)

Hell's bells, just witness all the Big Pharma ads where the 'side effects' include..."thoughts of suicide" - and OF COURSE if someone is having suicidal thoughts they are ALSO having HOMICIDAL thoughts*. Duh!

*fucking NATURALLY those Big Pharma ads are NEVER, EVER going to mention "side effects include...thoughts of homicide" - but ya know those kind of thoughts just go hand in hand, like peas and carrots

SURELY I'm not the only one thinking of this, however those with the (bully) pulpit are going to keep it to themselves - or get fired.

Horn
14th December 2012, 09:10 PM
Tell me, why does the MSM detail the exact nature & names of the guns used?

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 09:14 PM
Tell me, why does the MSM detail the exact nature & names of the guns used?

Because it perfectly suits their agenda of gun control since all three guns are (evil), black, accept hi-cap mags, and are ONLY intended for killing large numbers of people* - which are precisely the ones they want to ban.

*a revolver is more than sufficient for "self-defense inside your home"

These fuckers are on a roll, they have their spiel down pat this go 'round.

Horn
14th December 2012, 09:17 PM
Because it perfectly suits their agenda of gun control since all three guns are (evil), black, accept hi-cap mags, and are ONLY intended for killing large numbers of people* - which are precisely the ones they want to ban.

*a revolver is more than sufficient for 'self-defense inside your home'

Amazing how some crazed man would take the time to select different calibers.

How it has any relevance to the case at this point, eludes me.

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 09:19 PM
Amazing how some crazed man would take the time to select different calibers.

How it has any relevance to the case at this point, eludes me.

I have not seen any reference in any accounts as to the calibers of the two pistols he used - have you a link indicating that?

Libertarian_Guard
14th December 2012, 09:23 PM
I'm thinking that (just about) the ONLY way for someone to get to such a dark place in their own mind (that they are willing to kill young children) is via pharmaceuticals. (Kurt Vonnegut referred to this sort of condition as "having bad chemicals in his head" in his work Breakfast of Champions)

Hell's bells, just witness all the Big Pharma ads where the 'side effects' include..."thoughts of suicide" - and OF COURSE if someone is having suicidal thoughts they are ALSO having HOMICIDAL thoughts*. Duh!

*fucking NATURALLY those Big Pharma ads are NEVER, EVER going to mention "side effects include...thoughts of homicide" - but ya know those kind of thoughts just go hand in hand, like peas and carrots

SURELY I'm not the only one thinking of this, however those with the (bully) pulpit are going to keep it to themselves - or get fired.

Spot on.



http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26951

Blink
14th December 2012, 09:26 PM
Time to take the guns on a boating trip..........

Horn
14th December 2012, 09:26 PM
I have not seen any reference in any accounts as to the calibers of the two pistols he used - have you a link indicating that?

The entire story doesn't make sense for three different weapons and tactical garb, its full of holes in that aspect.

vacuum
14th December 2012, 09:29 PM
The second gunman totally changes the entire story. No longer is it a madman that snapped, it's organized. When something is organized, it doesn't matter if weapons are legal or not.

Not to mention, the fact that two people would agree to kill kindergarteners opens up an entirely different discussion.

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 09:32 PM
The entire story doesn't make sense for three different weapons and tactical garb, its full of holes in that aspect.

The only thing I've found so far ID'ed the Glock as a 9mm, no info on caliber of Sig that I've seen thus far.

All news reports are saying that all guns including AR were 'registered' (Conn. requires a permit for the purchase of handguns apparently) to Nancy Lanza the shooter's mother. I cannot imagine a mother who teaches/is a teacher's assistant/whatever of kindergarteners purchasing three such evil black guns (ESPECIALLY the AR) - except perhaps to appease her younger son somehow.

Sparky
14th December 2012, 09:38 PM
I have not seen any reference in any accounts as to the calibers of the two pistols he used - have you a link indicating that?

9 mm Glock and 9 mm Sig Sauer handguns found at scene. .232 Buckmaster rifle found in car.

sunshine05
14th December 2012, 09:38 PM
The only thing I've found so far ID'ed the Glock as a 9mm, no info on caliber of Sig that I've seen thus far.

All news reports are saying that all guns including AR were 'registered' (Conn. requires a permit for the purchase of handguns apparently) to Nancy Lanza the shooter's mother. I cannot imagine a mother who teaches/is a teacher's assistant/whatever of kindergarteners purchasing three such evil black guns (ESPECIALLY the AR) - except perhaps to appease her younger son somehow.

The "facts" are all over the place in these articles. I've seen one article that 4 firearms were found. Another states that his mother was NOT the teacher but possibly volunteered at the school at one point and was shot to death in her home.

sunshine05
14th December 2012, 09:41 PM
An official with knowledge of the situation said the shooter was armed with a .223-caliber rifle. Four weapons in total were recovered from the scene. The motive is not yet known.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/14/police-respond-to-shooting-at-connecticut-elementary-school/#ixzz2F5nA5haY

Sparky
14th December 2012, 09:42 PM
The "facts" are all over the place in these articles. I've seen one article that 4 firearms were found. Another states that his mother was NOT the teacher but possibly volunteered at the school at one point and was shot to death in her home.

This article has a lot more detail about the family, and insight about the shooter. It indicates the mother as a "former" teacher at the school. Implications from earlier TV stories was that she IS a teacher, and he went to her classroom. You're right, a lot of questionable information.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/adam-lanza-20-deeply-disturbed-kid-article-1.1220752?pgno=1

Horn
14th December 2012, 09:42 PM
The only thing I've found so far ID'ed the Glock as a 9mm, no info on caliber of Sig that I've seen thus far.

All news reports are saying that all guns including AR were 'registered' (Conn. requires a permit for the purchase of handguns apparently) to Nancy Lanza the shooter's mother. I cannot imagine a mother who teaches/is a teacher's assistant/whatever of kindergarteners purchasing three such evil black guns (ESPECIALLY the AR) - except perhaps to appease her younger son somehow.

The level of reporting just insults intelligence, as there is absolutely no investigative interviews of eyewitness at all. Its all how do you feel questions.

Its only a review of Connecticut's gun laws.

Any question of off base bias here?

Sparky
14th December 2012, 09:45 PM
An official with knowledge of the situation said the shooter was armed with a .223-caliber rifle. Four weapons in total were recovered from the scene. The motive is not yet known.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/14/police-respond-to-shooting-at-connecticut-elementary-school/#ixzz2F5nA5haY



This article says the shooter "then went to nearby Sandy Hook Elementary School where she taught and gunned down her entire class"

The NY Post article identifies her as a "former" teacher at the school.

vacuum
14th December 2012, 09:45 PM
The level of reporting just insults intelligence, as there is absolutely no investigative interviews of eyewitness at all.

Its only a review of Connecticut's gun laws.

Any question of off base bias here?

Maybe reporters aren't allowed within 500 meters of the scene? And all witnesses are securely in custody?

midnight rambler
14th December 2012, 09:51 PM
This article has a lot more detail about the family, and insight about the shooter. It indicates the mother as a "former" teacher at the school. Implications from earlier TV stories was that she IS a teacher, and he went to her classroom. You're right, a lot of questionable information.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/adam-lanza-20-deeply-disturbed-kid-article-1.1220752?pgno=1

Holy shit! The mother was receiving alimony payments from her ex of nearly $300K annually.

It appears the mother bought the three guns and allowed her "deeply disturbed" son unfettered access to those guns. Clearly an inexcusable failure to exercise intelligence or sound judgment under the circumstances.

It is also noteworthy that the shooter was a 'gamer'.

Libertarian_Guard
14th December 2012, 09:52 PM
9 mm Glock and 9 mm Sig Sauer handguns found at scene. .232 Buckmaster rifle found in car.

Bushmaster .223?

AndreaGail
14th December 2012, 09:55 PM
Holy shit! The mother was receiving alimony payments from her ex of nearly $300K annually.

It appears the mother bought the three guns and allowed her "deeply disturbed" son unfettered access to those guns. Clearly an inexcusable failure to exercise intelligence or sound judgment under the circumstances.

It is also noteworthy that the shooter was a 'gamer'.

that does seem to be a common theme...prozac and video games....so its the guns we need to go after ::)

EE_
14th December 2012, 10:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwBTwz-9Fw&feature=player_embedded

Horn
14th December 2012, 10:31 PM
Looks like all gun owners will be given mental evaluations as to their right to own.

Any found to harbor any neglect or animosity towards the collective us.gov will be denied... as that is mental....

JohnQPublic
14th December 2012, 10:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyJowcdlGlo

Here he is in a youtube clip also.

4186

vacuum
14th December 2012, 10:59 PM
Important youtube clips can be saved:
http://keepvid.com/

sirgonzo420
14th December 2012, 11:26 PM
http://static.infowars.com/2012/12/i/general/tweetsnra.jpg
http://static.infowars.com/2012/12/i/general/tweets2nd.jpg

It's fucking hilarious how anti-gunners are saying "shoot gunowners" and shit.

Shoot them with what? Guns?

vacuum
14th December 2012, 11:29 PM
It's fucking hilarious how anti-gunners are saying "shoot gunowners" and shit.

Shoot them with what? Guns?

The ones advocating going to an NRA meeting and shooting everyone are kind of funny when you think about it

Sparky
14th December 2012, 11:35 PM
Bushmaster .223?

Yes, I'll go back and correct my post. Thanks.

Edit: Damn, it won't let me edit.

BrewTech
15th December 2012, 12:38 AM
Uh yeah, you don't have rights; just loopholes.

You just made a sig-worthy quote... dontcha know!

BrewTech
15th December 2012, 12:41 AM
It's fucking hilarious how anti-gunners are saying "shoot gunowners" and shit.

Shoot them with what? Guns?

You do realize those are all shills working for the folks directly responsible for this tragedy, right?

It's called follow-up Public Relations.

old steel
15th December 2012, 12:47 AM
Now they are saying parents aren't allowed to view their slain children who will lay where they fell till Sunday for the "investigation"

Sounds like some weird kind of three day ritual thing going on to me considering the supposed shooter is dead.

WTF?

8:06 p.m.: Vance, speaking to CNN's Soledad O'Brien, says they'll be processing the crime scene until Sunday and that the bodies of the children and adults killed remain in the school where they fell, and will still be there until Sunday. Parents have not been allowed to see the bodies of their children. "We will leave no stone unturned" in pursuit of answering the questions of how and why this happened, says Vance. At this time he would not confirm the name of the shooter or whether he had "a personality disorder" or "a mental disorder."

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/12/newtown-connecticut-school-shooting/59999/

Neuro
15th December 2012, 01:43 AM
Now they are saying parents aren't allowed to view their slain children who will lay where they fell till Sunday for the "investigation"

Sounds like some weird kind of three day ritual thing going on to me considering the supposed shooter is dead.

WTF?

8:06 p.m.: Vance, speaking to CNN's Soledad O'Brien, says they'll be processing the crime scene until Sunday and that the bodies of the children and adults killed remain in the school where they fell, and will still be there until Sunday. Parents have not been allowed to see the bodies of their children. "We will leave no stone unturned" in pursuit of answering the questions of how and why this happened, says Vance. At this time he would not confirm the name of the shooter or whether he had "a personality disorder" or "a mental disorder."

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/12/newtown-connecticut-school-shooting/59999/
Obviously it wasn't their children, they were just custodians for the state... This is sick!

vacuum
15th December 2012, 01:50 AM
Now they are saying parents aren't allowed to view their slain children who will lay where they fell till Sunday for the "investigation"

Sounds like some weird kind of three day ritual thing going on to me considering the supposed shooter is dead.

WTF?

8:06 p.m.: Vance, speaking to CNN's Soledad O'Brien, says they'll be processing the crime scene until Sunday and that the bodies of the children and adults killed remain in the school where they fell, and will still be there until Sunday. Parents have not been allowed to see the bodies of their children. "We will leave no stone unturned" in pursuit of answering the questions of how and why this happened, says Vance. At this time he would not confirm the name of the shooter or whether he had "a personality disorder" or "a mental disorder."

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/12/newtown-connecticut-school-shooting/59999/
Totally, incomprehensibly, f*cked up behavior.

To the average person, suggesting this was a false flag makes you look insane. However, if news of what is going on right now is spread, it might just make them realize something is really wrong here.

midnight rambler
15th December 2012, 01:54 AM
Now they are saying parents aren't allowed to view their slain children who will lay where they fell till Sunday for the "investigation"

Sounds like some weird kind of three day ritual thing going on to me considering the supposed shooter is dead.

WTF?

8:06 p.m.: Vance, speaking to CNN's Soledad O'Brien, says they'll be processing the crime scene until Sunday and that the bodies of the children and adults killed remain in the school where they fell, and will still be there until Sunday. Parents have not been allowed to see the bodies of their children. "We will leave no stone unturned" in pursuit of answering the questions of how and why this happened, says Vance. At this time he would not confirm the name of the shooter or whether he had "a personality disorder" or "a mental disorder."

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/12/newtown-connecticut-school-shooting/59999/

Now we watch as the M$M largely ignores this demonic activity as it strains at gnats and swallows elephants.

Shami-Amourae
15th December 2012, 03:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_Pvj95AkDg

EE_
15th December 2012, 04:08 AM
I don't like Alex, but...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2h1QNTQDnoU

Steal
15th December 2012, 04:49 AM
the philisophical view


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7EZCK-QtBY

Twisted Titan
15th December 2012, 08:12 AM
Everybody knows exactly what to get each other for Christmas now.

There is no way on planet earth we get on the other side of this without some new national mandates on firearm ownership.


All the pieces are in place.


Buy like your life depends on it.


Because it does.

Ponce
15th December 2012, 08:52 AM
For your viewing pleasure... another shooting coming up.....you always have copy cats and drug takers.

JohnQPublic
15th December 2012, 08:58 AM
The father's linkedin profile. DO NOT CLICK ON if you have an account. You will be tagged.

Peter Lanza (http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=40092527&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=ERSp&locale=en_US&srchid=25e20930-37bd-4fce-9ce2-ffd10c52a6e4-0&srchindex=1&srchtotal=10&goback=%2Efps_PBCK_*1_Peter_Lanza_*1_*1_*1_*1_*2_* 1_Y_*1_*1_*1_false_1_R_*1_*51_*1_*51_true_*1_us%3A 0_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_ *2_*2_*2&pvs=ps&trk=pp_profile_name_link)

Horn
15th December 2012, 09:23 AM
It might have just been mentioned on CNN that Obama was proposing sweeping legislation to prevent this in the future,

by making it mandatory that everyone be provided with a firearm...

EE_
15th December 2012, 09:57 AM
Are violent video games programming our youth to be violent? What about violent movies?
Does the removing of God from society, program people that there is no higher consequence to their actions?
Does our government and it's police blatantly showing so little regard for human life, affect society?
Why has society become so sick?
These are the real questions we should be asking.

Shami-Amourae
15th December 2012, 10:03 AM
http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/december2012/151212thread.jpg

EE_
15th December 2012, 10:06 AM
http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/december2012/151212thread.jpg

What are we looking at here?

Horn
15th December 2012, 10:06 AM
Does our government and it's police blatantly showing so little regard for human life, affect society?
Why has society become so sick?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdbV5J20mpw

Norweger
15th December 2012, 10:19 AM
There is an element of racism amongst the dumbshits of the western populace. They turn around and look in another direction when its Afghan or Iraqi children that is being slaughtered but somehow get all worked up when its white children that is affected.

Shami-Amourae
15th December 2012, 10:20 AM
What are we looking at here?

4Chan. He prob posted at /pol/ (http://boards.4chan.org/pol/) or /b/ (http://boards.4chan.org/b/).

His username is iKTatjYX.

Shami-Amourae
15th December 2012, 10:20 AM
There is an element of racism amongst the dumbshits of the western populace. They turn around and look in another direction when its Afghan or Iraqi children that is being slaughtered but somehow get all worked up when its white children that is affected.

Sand niggers on the other side of the world? Who cares!? We're MURIKA!

Norweger
15th December 2012, 10:29 AM
Americuh: No weapons for the goy.

http://elizabethemkenussenate2012.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/feinstein_rect-460x307.jpg

Horn
15th December 2012, 10:36 AM
Americuh: No weapons for the goy.

That would mean an even more increased police presence within the inner cities.

Can she afford that?

Maybe they can ship those in from Colombia afterwards and reap 2% on the black market take there too...

EE_
15th December 2012, 11:19 AM
All this gun control talk..is it mentioned why we have the second amendment?
To protect us against tyranny, that's why!...and we have a tyrannical government right now.

Why do we need high power, high capacity, semi-auto weapons?
Because that is what the tyrants have and what they will use against us.

freespirit
15th December 2012, 11:21 AM
video update...


http://video.msn.com?vid=cbcc2012-1512-1126-0015-231660535900&amp;mkt=en-ca&amp;src=CPSmall:shareBar:permalink:uuids&amp;from=cp^c u stomplayer_en-ca_news

midnight rambler
15th December 2012, 11:26 AM
All this gun control talk..is it mentioned why we have the second amendment?
To protect us against tyranny, that's why!...and we have a tyrannical government right now.

Why do we need high power, high capacity, semi-auto weapons?
Because that is what the tyrants have and what they will use against us.

You know you can hear the retort to that:

"You can't expect to go up against the world's best equipped military with helicopter gunships, drones with hellfire missiles, satellite surveillance, A-10 attack aircraft, etc. What are you - crazy??"

chad
15th December 2012, 11:30 AM
there's dozens of people on huffpo calling for a repeal to the second amendment. australia is being mentioned frequently as the perfect model. make everybody turn everything in, everything, and melt them all down. then the world will be perfect.

Horn
15th December 2012, 11:42 AM
You know you can hear the retort to that:

Nobody ever uses molotov cocktails in these things anymore.

CNN will not let anyone speak about a culture of violence, its not good for Judeo movie and Bible sales.

EE_
15th December 2012, 11:52 AM
You know you can hear the retort to that:

"You can't expect to go up against the world's best equipped military with helicopter gunships, drones with hellfire missiles, satellite surveillance, A-10 attack aircraft, etc. What are you - crazy??"

I guess my retort would be "so, if all the citizens of the US revolted against this tyrannical government...the government would annihilate their own entire country?...what, are they crazy?"

EE_
15th December 2012, 12:14 PM
I can't believe they are letting these babies lay dead on the floor for two days, or more...what possible evidence could they collect from them? It's disgraceful IMO.
Let the shooter lay there dead for a week, I don't give a shit.
Give the babies the respect they deserve now!

freespirit
15th December 2012, 12:19 PM
I can't believe they are letting these babies lay dead on the floor for two days, or more...what possible evidence could they collect from them? It's disgraceful IMO.
Let the shooter lay there dead for a week, I don't give a shit.
Give the babies the respect they deserve now!

what?! and cut short the best photo op they've had this year?? how in the world are they gonna get the support they need to strip every firearm from the public if they don't have an avalanche of horrific pictures to burn into the psyche of the american sheeple?

midnight rambler
15th December 2012, 12:37 PM
I can't believe they are letting these babies lay dead on the floor for two days, or more...what possible evidence could they collect from them? It's disgraceful IMO.
Let the shooter lay there dead for a week, I don't give a shit.
Give the babies the respect they deserve now!

Nooz reports are indicating that all bodies were removed from the scene by 9 AM EST this morning 12/15.

Twisted Titan
15th December 2012, 12:41 PM
You know you can hear the retort to that:

"You can't expect to go up against the world's best equipped military with helicopter gunships, drones with hellfire missiles, satellite surveillance, A-10 attack aircraft, etc. What are you - crazy??"


Thats exactly what a bunch traitors to the crown were mumbling about prior to 1776

joboo
15th December 2012, 01:01 PM
Are violent video games programming our youth to be violent? What about violent movies?
Does the removing of God from society, program people that there is no higher consequence to their actions?
Does our government and it's police blatantly showing so little regard for human life, affect society?
Why has society become so sick?
These are the real questions we should be asking.

Look a the precedence being set via foreign policy, and fed to everyone daily. It's being made socially acceptable to act with lethal force towards other human beings.

Sick...

Horn
15th December 2012, 01:12 PM
Look a the precedence being set via foreign policy, and fed to everyone daily. It's being made socially acceptable to act with lethal force towards other human beings.

Sick...

The real reason the U.S. demands so much respect from around the globe is not for its freedom & democracy.

but for its ability to launch (with devastating fury) unconscious shock and awe violence to all parts of the globe.

Norweger
15th December 2012, 02:21 PM
I guess my retort would be "so, if all the citizens of the US revolted against this tyrannical government...the government would annihilate their own entire country?...what, are they crazy?"

"We had to destroy the city in order to save it."

JohnQPublic
15th December 2012, 02:35 PM
4189

not acting



4191
not acting



4190
not sure





http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/images-of-grief-following-school-shooting/2j84byueh

midnight rambler
15th December 2012, 02:39 PM
You're "not sure" if Zero was acting?? ???

Tears do not accumulate at the outer corners of one's eyes (since tear ducts are directly on either side of one's nose), so there's no way to wipe away tears from the outer corners of one's eyes. I.e. unless reptiles have their tear ducts located in the outer corners of their eyes.

Agrippa
15th December 2012, 02:47 PM
You're "not sure" if Zero was acting?? ???

Tears do not accumulate at the outer corners of one's eyes...

Maybe the teleprompter wasn't specific-enough on where he should wipe. It is hard to think of everything.

joboo
15th December 2012, 02:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_Pvj95AkDg

Nice conclusions to be drawn from that.

Goes to show what is made to be acceptable in a society via public policy, inevitably echoes throughout that society. IMO the two realities are inescapable for a certain percentage of the population who are unable to self reflect on a regular basis.

Fabricating identity.

JohnQPublic
15th December 2012, 03:24 PM
killed by drones...robots...

No, they were killed by people who operate those drones, and pull the trigger remotely.

joboo
15th December 2012, 03:45 PM
No, they were killed by people who operate those drones, and pull tth trigger remotely.

I'm not sure what I'm being corrected on, but how do we know some drones aren't running automated programs according to flight patterns?

i.e. if GPS location = (data_set_(pakistan_border)_etc...) and video camera identification= (x#_people), then target, and drop payload?

It would actually make more sense in some cases.

Horn
15th December 2012, 04:30 PM
I'm not sure what I'm being corrected on, but how do we know some drones aren't running automated programs according to flight patterns?

i.e. if GPS location = (data_set_(pakistan_border)_etc...) and video camera identification= (x#_people), then target, and drop payload?

It would actually make more sense in some cases.

Then in some cases there's that guy (disguised as a towel head) on the ground painting it with a laser.

He's got a job in the chain to keep too, needs to create new targets if there aren't many left.

joboo
15th December 2012, 05:02 PM
Then in some cases there's that guy (disguised as a towel head) on the ground painting it with a laser. He's got a job in the chain to keep too, needs to create new targets if there aren't many left. It could be as simple as zoning certain areas, and giving troops transponders to avoid friendly fire. "Area X is a no go zone". Anything in that area get's smoked. Nice guilt free scenario....hey...they assembled in a no go zone...we can't control what other people do. i.e.... this is a known combat area, enter at your own discretion. Set it, and forget it. Goes on the premise if you stick your arm in a meat grinder do you blame the grinder? Or....the camera system auto profiles individuals carrying weapons. With all the computer modeling going on how easy would it be to create, and store near infinite angle profiles of anyone carrying xyz weapon? Profile match + no transponder signals present + GPS match = boom. Tough love border patrol.

slvrbugjim
15th December 2012, 05:41 PM
Police Walked A Man In Camo Pants And Dark Jacket Out Of Woods: Newtown Connecticut School Shooting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=ovspEgeMXb4

slvrbugjim
15th December 2012, 05:47 PM
x

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_ODW4JG9y8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=wPAvh5Hog-4

midnight rambler
15th December 2012, 05:56 PM
Now the Medical Examiner is saying that everyone was shot with an AR-15 rifle. Incongruent, does not square with everything else that's come out, i.e. AR was left in his mother's car in the parking lot.

slvrbugjim
15th December 2012, 07:45 PM
Now the Medical Examiner is saying that everyone was shot with an AR-15 rifle. Incongruent, does not square with everything else that's come out, i.e. AR was left in his mother's car in the parking lot.

Now we know here this was a staged event, interesting that now many others that would not think this now do, I have seen this will friends and family that never believe but now do, hmm yes a great awakening perhaps. Many videos now coming out proving multiple shooters just like in Colorado. TS is HTF for sure

midnight rambler
15th December 2012, 07:58 PM
Has anyone heard this?? That the mother was a "bit of a survivalist" and "had some stored food and believed a crash was coming". Reportedly on NBC, relayed to me by a very reliable source who's paying attention.

slvrbugjim
15th December 2012, 08:14 PM
Has anyone heard this?? That the mother was a "bit of a survivalist" and "had some stored food and believed a crash was coming". Reportedly on NBC, relayed to me by a very reliable source who's paying attention.

The father like in the Colorado shooting was connected to the Libor scandal

JDRock
15th December 2012, 08:17 PM
Two shooters (allegedly) attacking an elementary school with guns - what's the motivation?? ???
ummmm -Gun control.

slvrbugjim
15th December 2012, 08:24 PM
ummmm -Gun control.
confiscation actually

midnight rambler
15th December 2012, 08:30 PM
confiscation actually

Isn't going to be much confiscation going on, the Commies goal is civil war.

slvrbugjim
15th December 2012, 08:45 PM
Isn't going to be much confiscation going on, the Commies goal is civil war.
no doubt you are correct, if confiscation begins there will be civil war

joboo
15th December 2012, 09:49 PM
Roger Ebert:

"The day after Columbine, I was interviewed for the Tom Brokaw news program. The reporter had been assigned a theory and was seeking sound bites to support it. "Wouldn't you say," she asked, "that killings like this are influenced by violent movies?"

"No," I said, "I wouldn't say that."

"But what about Basketball Diaries?" she asked. "Doesnt that have a scene of a boy walking into a school with a machine gun?" The obscure 1995 Leonardo Di Caprio movie did indeed have a brief fantasy scene of that nature, I said, but the movie failed at the box office (it grossed only $2.5 million), and it's unlikely the Columbine killers saw it. The reporter looked disappointed, so I offered her my theory.

"Events like this," I said, "if they are influenced by anything, are influenced by news programs like your own. When an unbalanced kid walks into a school and starts shooting, it becomes a major media event. Cable news drops ordinary programming and goes around the clock with it. The story is assigned a logo and a theme song; these two kids were packaged as the Trench Coat Mafia. The message is clear to other disturbed kids around the country: If I shoot up my school, I can be famous. The TV will talk about nothing else but me. Experts will try to figure out what I was thinking. The kids and teachers at school will see they shouldn't have messed with me. I'll go out in a blaze of glory."

In short, I said, events like Columbine are influenced far less by violent movies than by CNN, the NBC Nightly News and all the other news media, who glorify the killers in the guise of explaining them. I commended the policy at the Sun-Times, where our editor said the paper would no longer feature school killings on Page 1. The reporter thanked me and turned off the camera. Of course the interview was never used. They found plenty of talking heads to condemn violent movies, and everybody was happy."

Roger Ebert"


Morgan Freeman:

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single victim of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem."

http://www.dailypaul.com/266479/surprising-message-from-morgan-freeman-he-blames-the-media-for-ct-shooting

joboo
15th December 2012, 09:59 PM
Forensic Psychiatrist explains how to create more mass murderers:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=PezlFNTGWv4

slvrbugjim
15th December 2012, 10:09 PM
Forensic Psychiatrist explains how to create more mass murderers:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=PezlFNTGWv4

Well done but I think that the accused in this one and in Colorado did not fire a shot

JohnQPublic
15th December 2012, 11:39 PM
I'm not sure what I'm being corrected on, but how do we know some drones aren't running automated programs according to flight patterns?

i.e. if GPS location = (data_set_(pakistan_border)_etc...) and video camera identification= (x#_people), then target, and drop payload?

It would actually make more sense in some cases.

I was not really correcting you, but commenting on the video. I was not trying to be critical, but just point out that drones do not typically kill people autonomously (at least not yet). I.e., drones don't kill people, people kill people.

Steal
16th December 2012, 12:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4E5Hp2CKI8

midnight rambler
16th December 2012, 01:03 AM
The shooter's mother Nancy "described (by her sister) as something of a survivalist...had been worried about economic collapse...was stockpiling...had a collection of guns, knew how to use them and enjoyed them..."

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/50209477/#50209477

Steal
16th December 2012, 02:02 AM
wonder if Mr. excutive order potus has anything up his sleeve for this new years eve....

Shami-Amourae
16th December 2012, 03:04 AM
no doubt you are correct, if confiscation begins there will be civil war

They need to demonize gun owns and guns more first. They are doing they can to do with with every chance they get. They won't confiscate till a majority of people DEMAND it. I'm talking about where you see many gun owners willingly give up their guns since they are ashamed of how "Evil" they are. They were able to do this in Australia, but thankfully our culture in America is deeply intertwined with guns, but they are "fixing" that.

This is all Edward Bernays style programming. If you don't think the Elite can't pull this off you're crazy. They probably will, in due time. It's hard to argue with what the government says when you're getting a check from the bastards. They are ensuring everyone is dependent on that system so everyone does as they are told.

Shami-Amourae
16th December 2012, 03:25 AM
Encyclopedia Dramatica page is up (https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_Massacre)

https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/d/d0/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_-_FB_Reactions_-_01.png

https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/3/38/Sandyhook_dog.jpg

Shami-Amourae
16th December 2012, 04:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GlmAYtUVgo

JohnQPublic
16th December 2012, 08:31 AM
I am not looking for gore, but has anyone seen any pictures of victims, blood, an injured person, etc.? We see a lot of scared reactions, etc, but not the crime. By now usually there would be some evidence shown (kind of like the Osama assanation).

Dogman
16th December 2012, 08:40 AM
Good question, but seeing that things got so totally locked down and all, with kids being the largest number of victums. There may or not be any photos "leaked". Only time will tell, if anything gets let out so the public can see. Probably during the new campaign to bring out the (unnecessarily) new laws that are totally unnecessary. Then the photos (some?) maybe displayed to horrify the public into pushing for more gun control. ?

JDRock
16th December 2012, 09:49 AM
still no mention that all of these (alleged) killers were on meds? Wheres the outrage at the drug companies? isnt there a more direct link to BEHAVIOR through medication than guns??

midnight rambler
16th December 2012, 09:52 AM
A couple of things that came out on the talking head shows this AM -

Two computers in Nancy's house were "smashed to smithereens" - now why would the shooter who's intending to off himself be the least bit concerned with what is being left behind on a couple of computers?? ???

The long gun found in the car was a "shotgun which would accept a drum magazine" meaning it was either a Saiga 12 or a Mossy Sidewinder. Interesting.

chad
16th December 2012, 10:09 AM
when i started this thread, i noted the fact that a friend who lives there alerted me to it. spoke with her this morning. one of her friends children is among the dead. i guess everyone of the families has a state patrol guard assigned to them as well to shield them mostly from the press. the press seems to be being assholes i'm told, trying to get all of the families to talk about "what they think of gun control," etc. seems the press out there is being very, very, shitty.

freespirit
16th December 2012, 10:14 AM
when i started this thread, i noted the fact that a friend who lives there alerted me to it. spoke with her this morning. one of her friends children is among the dead. i guess everyone of the families has a state patrol guard assigned to them as well to shield them mostly from the press. the press seems to be being assholes i'm told, trying to get all of the families to talk about "what they think of gun control," etc. seems the press out there is being very, very, shitty.

this does not surprise me AT ALL. fucking cockroaches!

midnight rambler
16th December 2012, 10:16 AM
seems the press...is being very, very, shitty.

Who finds that surprising?

Even that POS Chris Wallace on Fox was railing against semi-autos.

Horn
16th December 2012, 10:17 AM
trying to get all of the families to talk about "what they think of gun control," etc. seems the press out there is being very, very, shitty.

Terrible, adding insult to the death of children,

the MSM press in the U.S. needs to be capitulated upon by the people, and re-freed.

It sleeps with Mega-corp.

JDRock
16th December 2012, 10:21 AM
The father like in the Colorado shooting was connected to the Libor scandal
THIS ^^^^ oh what the foook are the odds??

Horn
16th December 2012, 10:23 AM
THIS ^^^^ oh what the foook are the odds??

GTFO, where'd that come from, is real?

I thought multiple shot entry wounds to 20 victims was a tad much for one shooter...

sirgonzo420
16th December 2012, 10:23 AM
The father like in the Colorado shooting was connected to the Libor scandal

Source?

JDRock
16th December 2012, 10:46 AM
Source? steve quayle has a link.

midnight rambler
16th December 2012, 11:09 AM
Photo of Nancy Lanza -

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2012/12/16/news/web_photos/nancy_lanza--300x300.jpg

Article about Nancy's 'gun obsession' -

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/mother_made_kid_slay_madman_ojfQG64P9S35iQz9x3BmTJ/0

I'm still trying to wrap my head around where the rage/anger came from for a kid to shoot his loving, doting mother in the face - that's a very emotional, personal attack, much more so than shooting someone in the chest. (which leads me to think that her kid didn't shoot her)

gunDriller
16th December 2012, 11:40 AM
Memories of Newtown -

I thought it sounded familiar.

The name of the road that our school bus drove up and down, in rural Southwestern Connecticut - Newtown Turnpike. Highway 53. We lived about a mile from it.

I lived near Westport & Stamford during my "Wonder Bread" years.

We wrestled Newtown, in High School.


Blimey. This sure does bring back memories.

http://s403998394.onlinehome.us/westport-stamford-newtown_2.jpg

slvrbugjim
16th December 2012, 11:56 AM
Source?

several but here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gui-VRT_YZo

osoab
16th December 2012, 12:38 PM
bomb threat at the catholic church. very weird. don't remember this happening after one of the other ritual killings.

i was listening to wgn radio this morning. the douche they had talking said that it is ok for the media to stay on this for 24/7. "just because you already know doesn't mean everyone else knows. someone just might have turned on the teevee 5 minutes ago."

wls radio now has a intro/leader promoting their station with the coverage of the ritual killings.

if this is going on in radio land, i cannot imagine what the teevee looks like.

i also noticed flags at half staff. did this happen after aurora? barry is heading there for some photo op time too.

Horn
16th December 2012, 01:13 PM
http://www.infowars.com/father-of-alleged-connecticut-shooter-is-vp-of-ge-capital-reports/

According to (http://www.infowars.com/father-of-alleged-connecticut-shooter-is-vp-of-ge-capital-reports/)ABC and Yahoo news (http://gma.yahoo.com/connecticut-shooter-adam-lanza-obviously-not-well-182011729--abc-news-topstories.html), the alleged shooter at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, Adam Lanza, is the son of Vice President of GE Capital, Peter Lanza. Peter Lanza is also a partner at Ernst & Young, and major accounting firm. The older brother, Ryan Lanza, is also reported to be employed at Ernst & Young.

Peter Lanza, who drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI, is a vice president at GE Capital and had been a partner at global accounting giant Ernst & Young.
Adam’s older brother Ryan Lanza, 24, has worked at Ernst & Young for four years, apparently following in his father’s footsteps and carving out a solid niche in the tax practice. He too was interviewed by the FBI. Neither he nor his father is under any suspicion.... ..

Another report from Stamford Advocate (http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/default/article/Reporter-broke-news-to-father-of-suspect-4119559.php) says Peter Lanza is vice president of taxes for GE Energy Financial Services and also an adjunct professor a Northeastern University in Boston since 1995. The facts have been sketchy and changing from hour to hour.

After 28 years of marriage, Peter and Nancy Lanza divorced. Nancy Lanza was found shot at her home. A source told The Post (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/potential_connecticut_school_shooting_8HMOSbP38TXw SYYsVGkYLO) Ryan has told investigators he last saw Adam in 2010 and that Adam is autistic.

The tragedy is also being politically exploited for tighter gun control. If they ever get guns banned in the U.S., the politically unfavorable will be quickly rounded up and we will get a Soviet style authoritarian system magnified by 100. It is not the guns doing the shooting, but the people. Some of the “leaders” in the U.S. want to get the guns away from the citizens. I don’t know what the answer is to the violence that permeates the United States, but it is likely a symptom of a very sick society. Nobody is shedding tears for the thousands of children who die from U.S. bombs. A nation that exports violence around the planet with an elite core of individuals that profit from it, is destined to be troubled domestically. It’s a karmic certainty.


Obama’s tears
Are Obama’s tears fake like some people are suggesting? Obama has no compunction to order bombings all over the place which regularly kill civilians including children. He also authorizes the killing of Americans (http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/3-obama-authorizes-international-assassination-campaign/), so it’s very hard to believe that his tears are real, although anything is possible in this strange world.



http://www.linkedin.com/pub/peter-lanza/11/515/83b




(http://www.infowars.com/father-of-alleged-connecticut-shooter-is-vp-of-ge-capital-reports/)

Horn
16th December 2012, 01:26 PM
Some jew God must be going around taking CFO's sons into socio-genome robotics school?



Peter Lanza, the father of 20-year-old Adam Lanza, who shot to death his mother in their home and then slaughtered 26 people in an elementary school before killing himself, issued the following statement Saturday: "Our hearts go out to the families and friends who lost loved ones and to all those who were injured. Our family is grieving along with all those who have been affected by this enormous tragedy. No words can truly express how heartbroken we are. We are in a state of disbelief and trying to find whatever answers we can. We too are asking why. We have cooperated fully with law enforcement and will continue to do so. Like so many of you, we are saddened, but struggling to make sense of what has transpired."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/15/peter-lanza-statement-adam-lanza_n_2308744.html

slvrbugjim
16th December 2012, 01:43 PM
Some jew God must be going around taking CFO's sons into socio-genome robotics school?



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/15/peter-lanza-statement-adam-lanza_n_2308744.html
Peter Lanza | LinkedIn

Remember this fact about G.E.?, no taxes paid for years ranking in lots of Billions..
Peter Lanza had alot to do with how they did that...read on

G.E.s Strategies Let It Avoid Taxes Altogether
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/bu...&ref=business (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2011%2F03%2 F25%2Fbu...%26ref%3Dbusiness&h=xAQEXiX5v&s=1)&
The company reported worldwide profits of $14.2 billion, and said $5.1 billion of the total came from its operations in the United States.
Its American tax bill? None. In fact, G.E. claimed a tax benefit of $3.2 billion.


Ok so let me see, if you didn't know their is that huge LIBOR case on going and the son of a FICO big wig who was going to testify in the case..sees said son commits mass murk in a Theater...read on
DARK KNIGHT RISES FANS THIS ARTICLE WILL BLOW YOUR MIND,
Batman Connections,Robert Holmes And The LIBOR Scandal - :

Oh btw Libor case is on going, this is what happened as of yesterday

UBS to admit Japan criminal wrongdoing in Libor case: sources | Fox Business
UBS will admit to criminal wrongdoing by its Japanese arm, where one of the Swiss bank's traders manipulated yen Libor and euroyen contracts, to secure a $1-billion-plus settlement with regulators,

Ok so what's Peter Lanza going to testify soon?

Peter Lanza a big wig at G.E now see his son
commits mass murk on a greater scale than the Colorado rich kid

No motive for neither of the attacks were given, just the same old "mental illness" subject
brought up after these two k!lled Humans with precision and zero remorse....what kind of
Psychotropics are these rich kids on?, that turns their geeky pale clumsy[..]es into
Terminator like personas?, pumping out 100s of rounds like super agents, something ain't right about these two events happening in the same year as the LIBOR case is on going.


Seems like Elite Banker war is going on, messages are being sent and the innocent are getting caught up}}

http://slumz.boxden.com/f5/dec-14-father-conn-shooting-tax-director-vp-g-e-1856293/
http://investmentwatchblog.com/peter-lanza-father-of-adam-lanza-is-the-tax-director-for-general-electric/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Investmentwatch+%28Investment WatchBlog%29

A flash back on the LIBOR scandal.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2172377/LIBOR-scandal-rocks-US-experts-warn-biggest-consumer-fraud-history.html (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2F article-2172377%2FLIBOR-scandal-rocks-US-experts-warn-biggest-consumer-fraud-history.html&h=pAQGinxFF)

Tumbleweed
16th December 2012, 04:30 PM
Peter Lanza | LinkedIn

Remember this fact about G.E.?, no taxes paid for years ranking in lots of Billions..
Peter Lanza had alot to do with how they did that...read on

G.E.’s Strategies Let It Avoid Taxes Altogether
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/bu...&ref=business (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2011%2F03%2 F25%2Fbu...%26ref%3Dbusiness&h=xAQEXiX5v&s=1)&
The company reported worldwide profits of $14.2 billion, and said $5.1 billion of the total came from its operations in the United States.
Its American tax bill? None. In fact, G.E. claimed a tax benefit of $3.2 billion.


Ok so let me see, if you didn't know their is that huge LIBOR case on going and the son of a FICO big wig who was going to testify in the case..sees said son commits mass murk in a Theater...read on
DARK KNIGHT RISES FANS THIS ARTICLE WILL BLOW YOUR MIND,
Batman Connections,Robert Holmes And The LIBOR Scandal - :

Oh btw Libor case is on going, this is what happened as of yesterday

UBS to admit Japan criminal wrongdoing in Libor case: sources | Fox Business
UBS will admit to criminal wrongdoing by its Japanese arm, where one of the Swiss bank's traders manipulated yen Libor and euroyen contracts, to secure a $1-billion-plus settlement with regulators,

Ok so what's Peter Lanza going to testify soon?

Peter Lanza a big wig at G.E now see his son
commits mass murk on a greater scale than the Colorado rich kid

No motive for neither of the attacks were given, just the same old "mental illness" subject
brought up after these two k!lled Humans with precision and zero remorse....what kind of
Psychotropics are these rich kids on?, that turns their geeky pale clumsy[..]es into
Terminator like personas?, pumping out 100s of rounds like super agents, something ain't right about these two events happening in the same year as the LIBOR case is on going.


Seems like Elite Banker war is going on, messages are being sent and the innocent are getting caught up}}

http://slumz.boxden.com/f5/dec-14-father-conn-shooting-tax-director-vp-g-e-1856293/
http://investmentwatchblog.com/peter-lanza-father-of-adam-lanza-is-the-tax-director-for-general-electric/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Investmentwatch+%28Investment WatchBlog%29

A flash back on the LIBOR scandal.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2172377/LIBOR-scandal-rocks-US-experts-warn-biggest-consumer-fraud-history.html (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2F article-2172377%2FLIBOR-scandal-rocks-US-experts-warn-biggest-consumer-fraud-history.html&h=pAQGinxFF)

This reminds me of the interviews Ted Gunderson had with Chip Tatum. When the CIA wanted to "Nutralize" someone they would send an agent to have a talk with them. If they didn't comply with the agents request they were warned someone close to them would be killed. If they still didn't comply the person they were sent to nutralize would die. Since both of the fathers to the shooters were involved in the Libor scandle with billions of dollars involved I have to wonder if these shootings were about "nutralizing" testomony of the shooters fathers in the libor scandle/cover up.

sirgonzo420
16th December 2012, 04:55 PM
This reminds me of the interviews Ted Gunderson had with Chip Tatum. When the CIA wanted to "Nutralize" someone they would send an agent to have a talk with them. If they didn't comply with the agents request they were warned someone close to them would be killed. If they still didn't comply the person they were sent to nutralize would die. Since both of the fathers to the shooters were involved in the Libor scandle with billions of dollars involved I have to wonder if these shootings were about "nutralizing" testomony of the shooters fathers in the libor scandle/cover up.

Talk about killing two birds with one stone.... neutralize witnesses and cause major anti-gun events at the same time.

midnight rambler
16th December 2012, 05:06 PM
Say, this talk of 'neutralizing' someone reminds me of that movie(?) scene where this fellow answers a knock at his door, upon opening the door some guy immediately holds a chemically laced (cloroform?) cloth over his mouth while restraining, then that guy and his accomplice drag the unconscious victim into his own bathroom where they pull his shoe and sock off one foot and give him an injection between the toes. Then they wait a couple of minutes to check to make sure he's a goner, then put his sock and shoe back on his bare foot. Anyone remember the name of that movie? This is exactly the sort of precision which necessarily have to be pulled off.

midnight rambler
16th December 2012, 05:07 PM
Talk about killing two birds with one stone.... neutralize witnesses and cause major anti-gun events at the same time.

You should know by now that when the Death Cult does an elaborate operation it's ALWAYS 'multi-purpose'.

JohnQPublic
16th December 2012, 05:40 PM
I suspect that what we are witnessing is a major rift and power grab within the PTB. Gun control may not happen, or may be a secondary benefit. It is interesting that both this shooting and the Aurora shooting involved connected banking types (regardless of whether they were to testify on Libor or not).

JohnQPublic
16th December 2012, 05:46 PM
Also, isn't it interesting that the wife of a well connected derivatives/tax VP of GE (herself apparently into finance at one time) was preparing for a big crash?

midnight rambler
16th December 2012, 05:50 PM
Recent report is stating that Nancy was found in her bed wearing pajamas shot four times in the head (which would indicate to me that roughly 2 hours transpired between her being killed and the school shooting).

Also that the Glock was a 10mm and not a 9mm.

joboo
16th December 2012, 06:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=xKMgxuHBasI

midnight rambler
16th December 2012, 06:27 PM
From Ziopedia regarding Nancy Lanza being a prepper -


Marsha Lanza also recalled that Nancy was a survivalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivalist) and that Nancy had turned her home into "a fortress" in which she was stockpiling guns and food to prepare for what she believed was an apocalyptic event associated with impending economic collapse.

Naturally the 'edit' button is missing on that article (which I'm guessing may appear if one was to login).

Hatha Sunahara
16th December 2012, 07:35 PM
Say, this talk of 'neutralizing' someone reminds me of that movie(?) scene where this fellow answers a knock at his door, upon opening the door some guy immediately holds a chemically laced (cloroform?) cloth over his mouth while restraining, then that guy and his accomplice drag the unconscious victim into his own bathroom where they pull his shoe and sock off one foot and give him an injection between the toes. Then they wait a couple of minutes to check to make sure he's a goner, then put his sock and shoe back on his bare foot. Anyone remember the name of that movie? This is exactly the sort of precision which necessarily have to be pulled off.

Movie was called Michael Clayton, starring George Clooney.

Hatha

Cebu_4_2
16th December 2012, 07:50 PM
31 QUESTIONS TO ASK YOURSELF

1. As yet, we have not seen any concrete evidence that any child died.
2. As yet, parents have not been allowed to see their children. (Photoshopped pictures do not count).
3. As of now, I have seen only one unambiguous statement from a grieving parent (Robbie Parker).
4. According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother's ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan--who officials say is very cooperative--claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?
5. According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest, if he planned to kill himself?
6. The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in the school with only handguns--a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. But then he could not possibly have been firing the rifle, and could not have committed the murders. Who did?
7. According to the official story, the killing was tightly confined to two classrooms. But then why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?
8. Joanne Didonato, the principal's secretary, called in sick on Friday--something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. "Of all days," she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.
9. The hospital went into lockdown and cleared four trauma rooms, but received only three patients, two of them dead children (according to the official story) and one mildly wounded adult.
10. Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and that she died at the school, when the new official story is that she was not connected to the school and was killed at home?
11. What happened to the report that Adam Lanza's girlfriend and another friend were missing in New Jersey?
12. What happened to the woodsman in a black jacket and camo pants who was arrested and handcuffed outside the school? He actually shouted to parents, "It wasn't me." Who was he and what was he doing there?
13. What happened to the dark van or SUV that the police surrounded in the parking lot, or the maroon sedan with a blown-out back window they were on the lookout for?
14. The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector who obeyed the law. But since 20-year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why would she give her "autistic" son access to both guns and ammo?
15. Why were parents told on Friday that "if you haven't been reunited with your child by now it's already over"? Does anyone imagine that real parents of real children would simply say, "Okay, the show's over, let's go home now"?
16. Would real parents of real children really be satisfied with (possibly photoshopped) pictures of their children? Wouldn't they demand to see their children one last time firsthand?
17. According to the official story, 28 people died but only 1 was wounded. The dead included 20 small, squirmy children--difficult targets even for professionals. How could Adam Lanza achieve such amazingly deadly accuracy, in such a short length of time?
18. A child asserts that he/she heard someone say, "Put your hands up," followed by the reply, "Don't shoot." This indicates that the police took a suspect into custody inside the school. But if that was Adam Lanza, how did he kill himself after that point?
19. Another child asserts that he/she saw a man pinned down to the ground with handcuffs on. Again, this indicates that the police took a suspect into custody. If that was Adam Lanza, how did he then kill himself?
20. When Ryan Lanza was falsely identified as the shooter, who deleted his Facebook profile and created many others in his name?
21. Is it reasonable for a geeky 20-year-old to carry two pistols and hundreds of rounds of ammunition while wearing a bulletproof vest and a mask?
22. Why did the police say on Friday that they were going to leave the bodies rotting in the school until Sunday, then Saturday morning announce that they had spirited the bodies away in the middle of the night? Perhaps to ensure that the transport, if any, would go unrecorded on photos or video?
23. Why won't police tell us where they found the Henry repeating rifle, the Enfield rifle, and the shotgun?
24. Did the school have one or more security cameras? What do they show?
25. Why did a police officer specifically mention, on radio, that "they're coming at me through this wood," followed by a fellow officer saying, "This is it"?
26. One officer in the school said, "We've got one suspect down." Who was that? Down in this situation generally means in custody (on the ground and cuffed), not dead.
27. Why didn't Adam's uncle see anything out of the ordinary in Adam when the two saw each other in June?
28. Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically), "[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school"?
29. Why did police assign an individual state trooper to every grieving family, whether the family wants such "protection" or not?
30. Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police pretending that it's for their own benefit?
31. Is it a coincidence that Nancy Lanza's brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion, who lives next door to the former Lanza home?

midnight rambler
16th December 2012, 08:29 PM
This article highlights that Nancy Lanza was "part of the 'prepper' movement" -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9749217/Connecticut-school-shooting-Adam-Lanzas-mother-was-preparing-for-disaster.html

sunshine05
16th December 2012, 09:52 PM
Sandy Hook is on the map in The Dark Knight Rises Batman movie



http://www.imgbox.de/users/Deckard666/Sonstiges/The_Dark_Knight_Rises___Sandy_Hook_1.jpg

midnight rambler
16th December 2012, 09:57 PM
Sandy Hook is on the map in The Dark Knight Rises Batman movie


Wow. Now isn't that just fascinating as Hell??

Now that is some crazy shit.

Aurora was also mentioned in that movie as well -

http://deadlinelive.info/2012/12/16/sandy-hook-aurora-mentioned-in-batman-dark-night-rising-phoenix-movie/