The Jesus Haters

[EE_]

What's not to love?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3AaXFeRtR58

[Neuro]

Charming, the Holey land...

[joboo]

A heart warming collection of bits and pieces found on the internet.

Thing is, there could easily be a Muslim version that is equally if not more disturbing.

Same pedophilia biblical references, jihad, heads meeting the sword, halal slaughter, kids strapped with bomb vests, and the like...

...and the merry go round continues.

[EE_]

Thing is, there could easily be a Muslim version that is equally if not more disturbing.

The difference being, we don't support Muslims, or endless wars for their benefit. Muslims don't own our government and dictate our foreign policy. Muslims don't own our banking, finance and industry, or polute our population with endless perversion by media.

[joboo]

The difference being, we don't support Muslims, or endless wars for their benefit. Muslims don't own our government and dictate our foreign policy. Muslims don't own our banking, finance and industry, or polute our population with endless perversion by media.

...at this moment in time. Living in Saudi Arabia might suck a little harder though.

I don't hold either group on a pedestal. They both read fucked up books, and act like like nutbars.

Solution? One huge meteorite comes in....blam...right on the money. Problem solved.

That, or get rid of those stupid "holy" books they keep reading, and teaching to their kids.

Neither scenario is likely.

Dear Santa! >:D

[Horn]

The difference being, we don't support Muslims, or endless wars for their benefit. Muslims don't own our government and dictate our foreign policy. Muslims don't own our banking, finance and industry, or polute our population with endless perversion by media.

No that's the Judeo-Zio-Christians.

[Neuro]

...at this moment in time. Living in Saudi Arabia might suck a little harder though.

I don't hold either group on a pedestal. They both read fucked up books, and act like like nutbars.

Solution? One huge meteorite comes in....blam...right on the money. Problem solved.

That, or get rid of those stupid "holy" books they keep reading, and teaching to their kids.

Neither scenario is likely.

Dear Santa! >:D
Funny that Saudi Arabia happens to be one of the few regimes in the middle east with unquestioning support from the USA...

[joboo]

Funny that Saudi Arabia happens to be one of the few regimes in the middle east with unquestioning support from the USA...

From a business model perspective it's working very well. Everyone is speaking the same currency.

If by some odd chance that all changed, the power balance shifted, and a whole new set of muslim based laws, and customs were imposed, I'm guessing anyone not of that faith would not be loving the daily living realities imposed on them.

I could be wrong, but not knowing which location mecca is 24/7, and getting down on your hands and knees with some nutter wailing on a loudspeaker every day would probably wear pretty thin on me probably after the first day.

Maybe I'm exaggerating, but If those governments came into absolute power with their strict scriptural codes of what is acceptable, and that was enforced in any great capacity globally....well.....maybe I'm not exaggerating? I dunno..

[Santa]

That, or get rid of those stupid "holy" books they keep reading, and teaching to their kids.


This fucked up mentality is exactly the same as wanting to get rid of the stupid "harmful" guns they keep shooting kids with.

[joboo]

This fucked up mentality is exactly the same as wanting to get rid of the stupid "harmful" guns they keep shooting kids with. A gun with a filed down trigger, and a disposition towards intolerance, and I agree with you. Are religions tolerant, unbiased, and accepting of other religions? Not to my understanding.

[Horn]

A gun with a filed down trigger, and a disposition towards intolerance, and I agree with you. Are Western religions tolerant, unbiased, and accepting of other religions? Not to my understanding.

Its an East - West argument.

[Santa]

A gun with a filed down trigger, and a disposition towards intolerance, and I agree with you. Are religions tolerant, unbiased, and accepting of other religions? Not to my understanding.

An observation, Joboo. You wrote an emotional comment and I called you on it. It's not the Bible that kills, it's people that load it up with ignorant intentions that kill...

Atheists are social retards. They're like rebellious teens that never grow up.
First, they lose faith in God the Father, then they lose faith in humanity, and finally they lose faith in their own culture, in their brothers and sisters and ultimately they lose faith in themselves. Very sad.
For a while they attach their faith to artificiality, such as logic, science, statistical analysis, policies and dictators, but eventually realize those concepts only support the aggregation and accumulation of things in the world. Not humanity. Not soul. Not joy. Not love. Not even social cohesiveness.

Humanity and the premise of civilization, requires that we all serve someone or something higher than self.

Not much point in tossing God, just to replace Him with a Scientific Technocracy called State.

[Horn]

First, they lose faith in God the Father,

Santa likes to add his own title in there, what's with this "Father" opinion?

Does it not imply a son is present, God has a penis?

Or restrict one from becoming an adult responsible for themselves?

[Neuro]

That video didn't last long...

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That video didn't last long...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CxGKbgYqICg/TvJb6MTUyKI/AAAAAAAAjg4/vQcfJEzWLNY/s1600/abe_foxman_claw.jpg

[joboo]

An observation, Joboo. You wrote an emotional comment and I called you on it. It's not the Bible that kills, it's people that load it up with ignorant intentions that kill...

Atheists are social retards. They're like rebellious teens that never grow up.
First, they lose faith in God the Father, then they lose faith in humanity, and finally they lose faith in their own culture, in their brothers and sisters and ultimately they lose faith in themselves. Very sad.
For a while they attach their faith to artificiality, such as logic, science, statistical analysis, policies and dictators, but eventually realize those concepts only support the aggregation and accumulation of things in the world. Not humanity. Not soul. Not joy. Not love. Not even social cohesiveness.

Humanity and the premise of civilization, requires that we all serve someone or something higher than self.

Not much point in tossing God, just to replace Him with a Scientific Technocracy called State.

If someone studies a particular firearm, it doesn't make them less tolerant of people that decide not to. The same cannot be said for scriptural text. In that regard a holy book might seem to be an inanimate object, but in reality it is not.

Nowhere on a gun, or in the manual it comes with, does it have the words slay everything that breathes, and dash their heads upon the rocks, carry out jihad, etc..

There seems to be a clear distinction between the two scenarios.

You analogy is not holding up from what I can see.

[singular_me]

Atheism is a word that is completely irrelevant to me. I know many atheists who live by "thou shall not steal/kill/coerce" and to me those are God believers. Actions will always surpass words.



An observation, Joboo. You wrote an emotional comment and I called you on it. It's not the Bible that kills, it's people that load it up with ignorant intentions that kill...

Atheists are social retards. They're like rebellious teens that never grow up.
First, they lose faith in God the Father, then they lose faith in humanity, and finally they lose faith in their own culture, in their brothers and sisters and ultimately they lose faith in themselves. Very sad.
For a while they attach their faith to artificiality, such as logic, science, statistical analysis, policies and dictators, but eventually realize those concepts only support the aggregation and accumulation of things in the world. Not humanity. Not soul. Not joy. Not love. Not even social cohesiveness.

Humanity and the premise of civilization, requires that we all serve someone or something higher than self.

Not much point in tossing God, just to replace Him with a Scientific Technocracy called State.

[Horn]

Again, I think most atheists are closet Buddhists.

[Horn]

That video didn't last long...

I didn't even see the video.

Anyway I'm not posting anymore on this thread, because i might be labeled a Jesus hater.

I'm not, as I've no association with him directly, only images of him strapped to a cross.

Now the Christian folklore told of Jesus in the Bible, is a cool story.

This I have to admit.

[joboo]

I didn't even see the video.

Anyway I'm not posting anymore on this thread, because i might be labeled a Jesus hater.

I'm not, as I've no association with him directly, only images of him strapped to a cross.

Now the Christian folklore told of Jesus in the Bible, is a cool story.

This I have to admit.

Rumor has it it's actually impossible to watch this movie too many times...

https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7524532/Life_Of_Brian_1979_1080p_BluRay_X264_-_1.40GB_-_YIFY
http://image.bayimg.com/oabllaaea.jpg


I think there's a Muslim version floating around, but if I posted it, I would have hordes of people calling for my death, and dismemberment.

[Horn]

joboo, you're just another Roman


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vbSRaXH3NM

[joboo]

joboo, you're just another Roman


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vbSRaXH3NM

Guilty as charged, I willingly accept my punishment... ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk

[joboo]

That video didn't last long...

It lives on Vimeo >:D
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/the-chosenites-stop-everything-and-watch-this-horrid-expose.html

[EE_]

It lives on Vimeo >:D
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/the-chosenites-stop-everything-and-watch-this-horrid-expose.html

Abe is not happy about it
http://www.redressonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Abe-Foxman.jpg

[Santa]

If someone studies a particular firearm, it doesn't make them less tolerant of people that decide not to. The same cannot be said for scriptural text. In that regard a holy book might seem to be an inanimate object, but in reality it is not.

Nowhere on a gun, or in the manual it comes with, does it have the words slay everything that breathes, and dash their heads upon the rocks, carry out jihad, etc..

There seems to be a clear distinction between the two scenarios.

You analogy is not holding up from what I can see.

Maybe you should broaden your perspective, your view of the analogy rather than blindly rejecting it outright.
Stick to studying your factory supplied "how to" manuals on firearms. You'll be sure to remain socially retarded that way.

The analogy was about Faith, or lack thereof, which is the very essence of an atheists position. A critical lack of Faith.

I'm not talking about any particular faith, or religion, or what you probably confuse as belief, or personal opinion.

Faith is the bedrock of human understanding. And understanding is dependent upon language. And language has been crafted from ancient Sumerian/Babylonian/Hebe/ Greek/Latin/English Biblical text.

You can't offhandedly dismiss the Bible and what it contains without dismissing our known civilization.

In short, doing so is a grievous form of social retardation.

[BarnkleBob]

Jesus reminds me of the Constitution... you can point at either writing and say "see they both exist" but both are failures in toto when almost no one but a few observes the intent & meaning of the constructs.... whether one or both are myths or real... the same result has occured by perversion of thought & perversion of language & perversion of want! nuff said!

[joboo]

Maybe you should broaden your perspective, your view of the analogy rather than blindly rejecting it outright.
Stick to studying your factory supplied "how to" manuals on firearms. You'll be sure to remain socially retarded that way.

The analogy was about Faith, or lack thereof, which is the very essence of an atheists position. A critical lack of Faith.

I'm not talking about any particular faith, or religion, or what you probably confuse as belief, or personal opinion.

Faith is the bedrock of human understanding. And understanding is dependent upon language. And language has been crafted from ancient Sumerian/Babylonian/Hebe/ Greek/Latin/English Biblical text.

You can't offhandedly dismiss the Bible and what it contains without dismissing our known civilization.

In short, doing so is a grievous form of social retardation.

LOL whatever that means. If it makes sense to you welll...ok.

You made the claim banning bibles is the same as banning guns. I don't see it as being the same. I don't see a holy book as a purely inanimate object. The more you pick one up and start reading it, the more it trends your entire belief system, and entire living reality, to a particular slant.

I don't feel hostility, or feel that people who don't own guns are socially retarded, or wasting their lives. My entire belief system does not become up ended over being a gun owner. To me that is just their choice in life.

There seems to be a distinction going on from what I can gather.

[Horn]

You can't offhandedly dismiss the Bible and what it contains without dismissing our known civilization.

In short, doing so is a grievous form of social retardation.

Keyword;

the details of which are hidden in those sociopaths still following it & repeating the same history over & over again while calling it righteous.

It has been recorded, so let it be done.

^cheap Ramses impersonation^

Only retards would post in this thread :)

[Santa]

LOL whatever that means. If it makes sense to you welll...ok.

You made the claim banning bibles is the same as banning guns. I don't see it as being the same. I don't see a holy book as a purely inanimate object. The more you pick one up and start reading it, the more it trends your entire belief system, and entire living reality, to a particular slant.



So you think banning Holy Books is okey dokey? Lol...

[joboo]

So you think banning Holy Books is okey dokey? Lol...

Well seeing as I already tore apart your guns v.s holy books analogy. ;) Allow me to further elaborate on my earlier post.

These pieces of literature are the cause for ongoing disagreements due to how they empower people to think they are ultimately right about something, when in reality that have no more of an idea than the next guy.

They ultimately end up causing more conflict than they resolve. More people are waking up to these aspects, and this trend is increasing.

Not fast enough imo. But then again, that part of the world is mostly about 100+ years behind modern civilization intellectually, to the point many even still dress like it.

[Horn]

You can't ban Bibles, joboo.

That would be like banning the Terminator Movie series.

[Santa]

Nothing quite like an atheist attempting to interpret the Bible in it's entirety without ever having read or probably ever even having looked at it except maybe in a hotel room drawer rooting around for a TV remote.

Atheists have lost their Faith.

Let me explain to you what Faith is.

This is just an example. Faith is allowing your 10 year old daughter out to play with friends unattended. It takes Faith to allow her the leeway to live and experience life for herself, on her own, without YOU or some other human authority figure making sure she's always 100% safe from danger.... That's Faith... because it's accepting a higher authority than your own or that of a Government to take care of and have mercy for your little daughter.

Without faith you'd have to rely on some sort of "proof" that she'd be safe. Some law. Some statistical calculation. Some Official Law Enforcement Authority to fill in for that Higher Natural Authority that you don't have Faith in.

Lack of Faith is the original cause for all the man made Institutional Governments and Churches that are indeed responsible for so much misery in the world.

Lack of Faith is what causes people to turn to Authoritarian Governments and Theocratic Empires in the first place.

In fact, the emergence of Atheism as a political creation, occurred simultaneously to that of Communisn, Marxism, Authoritarianism, collectivism, etc...

Hand in Hand they march. The Faithless and their Armies. Marching for control, assurance, security... because they don't have any Faith in God. They don't have the Faith that the world is a Godly place that's being cared for by an intelligent Creator. For the Faithless, creation is a mishmash of randomness that must be controlled by Man.

All because they don't believe in God who already has everything under control. They can't relax their grip for a second.

Governments are the manifest expression of the lack of Faith in God in the general population.

Expansion of Government occurs in direct relation to Faith in God by a people. So the weaker the Faith, the larger the Government. The larger the Government, the more oppression and misery doled out to the people.

[Horn]

Look at the atheist, Santa.

Gaillo was a perfect example of one. He did not believe in a "Biblical God" but he did believe in the almighty of Mother Nature. You are proposing that all atheists have no faith in anything, A blanket statement.

I conclude that some have more faith in the human race than do Bible followers... putting faith in a Book or in an imaginary movie playact, just doesn't add up anyway. Afterall that's all the Bible really is in most human's brains, an imaginary play act.

[joboo]

You can't ban Bibles, joboo.

That would be like banning the Terminator Movie series.

You can't in practice ban anything, which is why the holy cleansing meteorite reference was brought forth. ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK7qU1Ik2HQ

:rolleyes:

[Santa]

Look at the atheist, Santa.

Gaillo was a perfect example of one. He did not believe in a "Biblical God" but he did believe in the almighty of Mother Nature. You are proposing that all atheists have no faith in anything, A blanket statement.

I conclude that some have more faith in the human race than do Bible followers... putting faith in a Book or in an imaginary movie playact, just doesn't add up anyway. Afterall that's all the Bible really is in most human's brains, an imaginary play act.

I can't interpret the Bible for others, either negatively or positively. I don't worship the Bible. I can only interpret what I can in relation to my understanding... which depends entirely on the strength of my Faith. Personally, I struggle with my lack of Faith every day. I'm not a strong man.
For me, reading the Bible is like the game "Pin the Tail On The Donkey"... most of time I blindly miss the point, but once every so often I'm struck by the sheer beauty and magnificence of a verse. An epiphany. A transcendent understanding occurs.
Acceptance of that transcendent occurrence allows for more occurrences. It's like exercise.
God exists in those transcendent moments, breathing Life into me. Which allows me a little bit of breathing room from grubbing for the paltry token coins
of security in the world.

[Horn]

The ethereal wisps of divine consciousness' mane harkens one to reach out & ride the dawn horse.











Don't fall off.

[singular_me]

Again, I think most atheists are closet Buddhists.

I concur :)

and same otherwise, I know many believers who dont see anything wrong with coercion