what the shooting has taught me

[chad]

90% of the public is completely ignorant of firearms and believe whatever they are told. consider:

endless talk (bloomberg, mayor of boston, everry person on huffpo) about banning "automatic weapons." the kid didn't use automatic weapons.

we need stricter handgun laws. kid was not old enough to purchase handguns; they were stolen.

we need to ban assault rifles. the rifle was left in the car and not even used.

we need to close the private party gun show loophole. the handguns were purchased in a store, not at a gun show or from a private party.

people are believing all of this. i now have absolutely zero faith in the future of the country. i thought people were stupid for re-electing obama, but this has highlighted even more how stupid they are. they don't care about facts, all they want is for someone to take care of them.

we are hosed.

[SLV^GLD]

i now have absolutely zero faith in the future of the country.

Just now, huh?

Besides, I consider any faith placed outside of God misplaced. I say, Trust God, Love people.

[drafter]

People are in full "emotional overdrive" over this last shooting. Logic and rational thinking will be tough to debate with because these people just don't have the capicity to get past how they "feel". Remember our society has spent years trying to teach us it's not about intelligence and using logic, it's about how you "feel" about things.

[chad]

we are entering dangerous times when people make laws based on their feelings drafter. i now completely understand how depots come to power.

[SLV^GLD]

I consider the gun grab conspiracy element of this tragedy a very real possibility considering there is likely no more emotionally overriding element than that of children.

That is, I KNOW the gun grabbers will leverage this event but I also SUSPECT the event was engineered specifically for this purpose.

[Twisted Titan]

Which is all the more reason to hold on to your guns.


Anybody who is willing to kill childeren to take them away.....could you imagine what they will do to you. ...when they know you have no reasonable means of defending yourself?

You better shudder at the thougth

[Horn]

we are entering dangerous times when people make laws based on their feelings drafter. i now completely understand how depots come to power.

The U.S. has been basically a protectorate nation of the U.K.'s since WWII.

All U.S. laws will be modeled after her's The Queen of the despots.


The English are perceived to be the leaders of etiquette and masters of a polite society. Quite often, too often, it is American chic to consider our neighbors in the UK a model to emulate. Perhaps, to the American ear the English tone represents a higher intellect.

This is not to denigrate our UK neighbors, but rather to encourage our American citizens to assess by fact and not by fad. The trail blazing UK held the distinction of having the toughest firearm restrictions of any democracy and their 1997 handgun ban became the "gold standard" of gun control.

How has that UK gun ban been working?



In the four years from 1997 to 2001, the rate of violent crime more than doubled.
Your chances of being mugged in London are now six times greater than in New York.
England's rates of assault, robbery, and burglary are far higher than America's.
53 percent of English burglaries occur while occupants are at home, compared with 13 percent in the U.S., where burglars admit to fearing armed homeowners more than the police.


In a [2002] United Nations study of crime in 18 developed nations, England and Wales led the Western world's crime league, with nearly 55 crimes per 100 people. [1] Gun crime in London is increasing so rapidly that police fear they may not have the resources to cope. In a 2001 BBC report, officers stated there had been a 100% increase in firearms-related crime in the capital..



http://voices.yahoo.com/the-uk-gun-ban-3819560.html?cat=17

[midnight rambler]

People are in full "emotional overdrive" over this last shooting. Logic and rational thinking will be tough to debate with because these people just don't have the capicity to get past how they "feel". Remember our society has spent years trying to teach us it's not about intelligence and using logic, it's about how you "feel" about things.

Let's talk about how you feel about all that.

[Horn]

You'd just have to use your feelings in retort, its only logical.

[joboo]

I can't imagine it would affect outside of CT at the end of the day.

Look at Canada, scrapped the long gun registry, all except for the "big" school shooting location (Quebec) due to too many people being vocal over it there still.

The logic is totally ridiculous though. A gun is registered...so what??...it's pointless.

Your car is registered. Why doesn't registering cars prevent drunk people from crashing them?

Deerrrrrp......

[Twisted Titan]

A registry does nothing but make it easier for the power mongers to compile kill list for the shock troopers

[Bigjon]

90% of the public is completely ignorant of firearms and believe whatever they are told. consider:

endless talk (bloomberg, mayor of boston, everry person on huffpo) about banning "automatic weapons." the kid didn't use automatic weapons.

we need stricter handgun laws. kid was not old enough to purchase handguns; they were stolen.

we need to ban assault rifles. the rifle was left in the car and not even used.

we need to close the private party gun show loophole. the handguns were purchased in a store, not at a gun show or from a private party.

people are believing all of this. i now have absolutely zero faith in the future of the country. i thought people were stupid for re-electing obama, but this has highlighted even more how stupid they are. they don't care about facts, all they want is for someone to take care of them.

we are hosed.

These events are setups not to be wasted.

The news media manufactures the news, in other words there could have been twenty to thousand knowledgeable gun people there demanding solutions which save our guns.

BUT they will never be seen on the boob tube as that would muddy the message.

The news medias business is manufacturing consent.

[Horn]

I can't imagine it would affect outside of CT at the end of the day.

Look at Canada, scrapped the long gun registry, all except for the "big" school shooting location (Quebec) due to too many people being vocal over it there still.

The logic is totally ridiculous though. A gun is registered...so what??...it's pointless.

Your car is registered. Why doesn't registering cars prevent drunk people from crashing them?

Deerrrrrp......

There may be a point there for gun/D.L. removal,

anyone who's had to submit to those psychotropic drugs that big-pharma hands out like candy,

may have to give up their rights to either drive or possess.

[midnight rambler]

M$M has pulled out of the stops calling for more gun control. All kinds of tear-jerking videos with grief stricken images and very sad background music. They are playing it to the HILT.

Turns out that Connecticut has some of the toughest gun control laws in the country, and look at how well that worked.

Nonetheless, this failure will be used to implement much harsher 'gun control' *Federally* - expect Draconian measures.

[joboo]

A registry does nothing but make it easier for the power mongers to compile kill list for the shock troopers

I actually had a good friend tell me they thought the gun registry was a good idea. The reasoning was ..well it would be nice if the police knew who had what in case of a domestic dispute call.

I was like well, so if there was nothing registered at that address, you would walk in rest assured with not a care in the world? Hmm... Who knows what's behind a door when you open it? Who's at home? Who is visiting? who doesn't belong there? and who has what?

Blank stares...

more derpity derp logic.

[Horn]

There may be a point there for gun/D.L. removal,

anyone who's had to submit to those psychotropic drugs that big-pharma hands out like candy,

may have to give up their rights to either drive or possess.

Of course when you do that it might include any premises the afflicted lives on too,

which would wipe out gun possession across the U.S. by default.

[joboo]

There may be a point there for gun/D.L. removal,

anyone who's had to submit to those psychotropic drugs that big-pharma hands out like candy,

may have to give up their rights to either drive or possess.

That is actually not a bad idea. There should be filtering for being self admittedly mentally imbalanced, and criminals. Who wants buddy next door armed to the teeth popping pills all the time to cope with being conscious? Hell no thanks.

I think it wil be quite the day indeed when Canada is more pro gun than the US...haha...LOL

Too many vocal pro gun folks in the US for anything drastic to take place. Not gonna happen.

[freespirit]

I think it wil be quite the day indeed when Canada is more pro gun than the US...haha...LOL



you may not be LOL'ing for long, by the way things seem to be shaping up. that day may come sooner than you think...

...and not in a good way, either.

[Osiris]

M$M has pulled out of the stops calling for more gun control. All kinds of tear-jerking videos with grief stricken images and very sad background music. They are playing it to the HILT.


It is a time like this that I am so happy I don't have cable!!! We were out at breakfast this morning and a basketball game or a sports show was on and they were showing quotes from the players about the situation in Connecticut. Who gives a fuck! I am amazed that people put value on sports players let alone their opinions or thoughts on a shooting.

[freespirit]

It is a time like this that I am so happy I don't have cable!!! We were out at breakfast this morning and a basketball game or a sports show was on and they were showing quotes from the players about the situation in Connecticut. Who gives a fuck! I am amazed that people put value on sports players let alone their opinions or thoughts on a shooting.

thats because they don't have an opinion until one is giftwrapped and handed to them courtesy of the MSM. people have lost the ability to think and reason for themselves, they are paralyzed until they are told what to do, think, feel, or say. other than that they always seem to have "no comment"...

[iOWNme]

The next great War is the War on inanimate objects. Look for funding from Congress and an entire new Government Agency called "The Governmental Control and Regulation of Inanimate Objects Agency".

Things like chairs, pencils and possibly milk cartons will be taxed/regulated/licensed. You may even have to go to a class to learn how to properly wash a plate in your sink as you could use a wet plate for a slippery weapon.

[Horn]

The shooting has taught me that CNN will defend & protect Israel's right to flatten entire neighborhoods with skin burning phosphorous in Gaza for bottle rocket use, but propose nothing for protection of U.S. citizen's right to bear plinkers.

[joboo]

you may not be LOL'ing for long, by the way things seem to be shaping up. that day may come sooner than you think... ...and not in a good way, either. I'm wondering which politician will pick up that torch for their own immediate career suicide attempt. My guess is very few to none....perhaps less than that.

[chad]

i can't the the "we need to get rid of automatic guns" talk anymore. it's everywhere. you can just walk in to the 5 & dime and buy scary black automatic rifles like in the matirx with no background check or anything. you can get them out of vending machines even.

[Horn]

you can get them out of vending machines even.

I can't get glass bottles out of vending machines anymore for molotov cocktails.

[EE_]

I can't get glass bottles out of vending machines anymore for molotov cocktails.

Maybe get some of these before they're banned.

http://www.giftag.com/clip/chrisonline1991/rei-storm-proof-matches-at-reicom-clip.jpg

[freespirit]

I can't get glass bottles out of vending machines anymore for molotov cocktails.


you could always use beer bottles, they would work well, i bet.

[Horn]

More evidence of our "Mega-corp Global Gun Removing Media"

just passing hints as to where they must be hurled...

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65880-Media-blackout-Oregon-mall-shooter-was-stopped-by-an-armed-citizen


(http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65880-Media-blackout-Oregon-mall-shooter-was-stopped-by-an-armed-citizen)