Feinswine will introduce assault weapons ban in Senate

[AndreaGail]

(even though handguns were used in the latest school shooting ::) )

how convenient they have been working on this bill for a year and they get all these nice juicy shootings


Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) vowed Sunday to introduce legislation to ban assault weapons at the start of the next Congress.

“I’m going to introduce in the Senate and the same bill will be introduced in the House, a bill to ban assault weapons. It will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession. Not retroactively but prospectively. And it will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets. So there will be a bill. We’ve been working on it now for a year ,” Feinstein said on NBC’s “Meet The Press” during a discussion about guns following Friday’s deadly mass shooting as a Connecticut school.

Feinstein said she was confident such a measure could pass. In a separate interview on Sunday, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said he too was was optimistic about the prospect of passing a gun control measure.

“I think we can get something done,” said Schumer on CBS’s “Face The Nation.” Schumer advocated focusing on three areas: Banning assault weapons, limiting the size of clips, and making it harder for “mentally unstable” individuals to obtain firearms.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/12/16/feinstein-will-introduce-assault-weapons-ban-in-senate/

[midnight rambler]

Their newest line of horseshit, "We believe in the 2nd Amendment, *however*..."

[mamboni]

This should be bullish for gun maker stocks (prospective ban).

[JDRock]

^-^ oh...the SHOCK!

[Shami-Amourae]

Let the fuckers do it. Watch what happens. People will turn to RepRap and start PRINTING guns from their homes. Every man, woman, and child can have a printed up AR-15 ready to go against these Marxist scum. These fools think they have control us that easily? Do they understand what happens when you try to prohibit something people want? You'll end up seeing the gun industry and the anti-gun people merging. Just watch.

The RepRap Revolution is coming!

It will be like the Printing Press Revolution and the Internet Revolution!

[chad]

sweet, looks like i get to keep buying hi-cap mags, as only "clips" will be outlawed. i guess it will suck to own an sks now.

[madfranks]

And it will ban the same for big clips

yeah, big clips, those things are dangerous! Also, barrel shrouds must be outlawed too.

[Norweger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLLckyRpwr0

[sirgonzo420]

yeah, big clips, those things are dangerous! Also, barrel shrouds must be outlawed too.

That's the shoulder thing that goes up, right?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospNRk2uM3U

also, watch out for heat seeking bullets! They can cook deer!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRQqieimwLQ

[gunDriller]

the classic liberals (Feinstein, Schumer, Harman) can wring their hands all they want.

if those teachers at that school want to protect their kids - they need to open carry.

[midnight rambler]

the classic liberals (Feinstein, Schumer, Harman) can wring their hands all they want.

if those teachers at that school want to protect their kids - they need to open carry.

That's the only realistic approach, the whiny leftists notwithstanding.

[General of Darkness]

the classic liberals (Feinstein, Schumer, Harman) can wring their hands all they want.


All jews of course. I suggest they go to Israel with their bullshit and stop fucking with every white nation on the planet.

[osoab]

Should I get my ptr-91 now. like right now?

[midnight rambler]

Should I get my ptr-91 now. like right now?

Forget the HK91/CETME clone, get a FAL* (AK reliability) or a M1A (MOA accuracy) if you're wanting 7.62 NATO - both reliable as they come. The CETME design has a flaw that will render the rifle absolutely worthless if you're not extremely diligent in maintaining it - it is completely unforgiving to being neglected (whereas the FAL will take the same sort of abuse a good AK will without a hiccup).

*I'm very familiar with FALs and can tell you which ones are desirable and which ones are not (stay away from ANYTHING which has 'Century Arms International' on it)

[General of Darkness]

Forget the HK91/CETME clone, get a FAL* (AK reliability) or a M1A (MOA accuracy) if you're wanting 7.62 NATO - both reliable as they come. The CETME design has a flaw that will render the rifle absolutely worthless if you're not extremely diligent in maintaining it - it is completely unforgiving to being neglected (whereas the FAL will take the same sort of abuse a good AK will without a hiccup).

*I'm very familiar with FALs and can tell you which ones are desirable and which ones are not (stay away from ANYTHING which has 'Century Arms International' on it)

7.62x51 I like my DPMS AR10 type versus my FAL. Lighter etc.

[chad]

anyone want to buy my worthless piece of shit with dozens of crap added on ar-15?

[midnight rambler]

7.62x51 I like my DPMS AR10 type versus my FAL. Lighter etc.

No doubt the DI DPMS is superior in accuracy head and shoulders above the rest of the field including the M1A/M14, only problem is when it comes to a survival scenario is that it shits where it eats just like the AR DI system. The one advantage you have with a 7.62x51 over the 5.56 in a DI platform is that one is unlikely to get 'the mother of all jams' with the 7.62x51 which the 5.56 is prone to.

When it gets down to a situation where you're unlikely to be maintaining your weapon DAILY as the DI system *demands*, the VERY forgiving FAL will not let you down no matter how much you neglect it. The FAL went into service in many African countries +/-50 years ago, and I've seen photos of 'well seasoned' (read: brown with rust due to no more phosphate finish left) FALs being used by the indigs, like this inch pattern L1A1 example -

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2897/nigeriaeu0.jpg

There's no way in the world a CETME/HK91/G3 rifle would take that sort of neglect/abuse for more than a month or two.

Come and hear the Tale of Ol' Dirty, the FAL which has been fired over 16,000 rounds without being cleaned, ever (includes a full submersion in a mud puddle along the way) - the only part which has failed so far is the piston return spring, spring is still broken after several thousand rounds yet rifle still functions well enough -

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68486

[General of Darkness]

anyone want to buy my worthless piece of shit with dozens of crap added on ar-15?

Details?

[chad]

i don't know off the top of my head, it's at my uncles until next weekend. it's a fulton armory lower, not sure what the upper is (you can i care about and use this rifle a lot). has one of those eotech holo sights and a bunch of other crap. when he gives it back next weekend i will post the details in the firearms forum (he's doing coyote eradication with it right now). i've shot maybe 200 rounds through it since putting it together new about 7 years ago. i just don't dig it at all.

[gunDriller]

That's the only realistic approach, the whiny leftists notwithstanding.

i like a lot of the things 'leftists' like. but maybe - i'm slightly more realistic ?

i like the environment, but when it comes to endangered species, preference must be given to Homo Sapiens over Spotted Owls and Striped Mullets.


as far as Labor, i think Labor has the right to Assemble - a Constitutional Right. Of course, that right does not protect them from the realities of the market, especially when trade barriers are lowered and American workers are forced to compete with Chinese workers making $1 an hour (if they're 'lucky').

however, i do support Out-sourcing of many Bankster Jobs. i wouldn't mind seeing 50,000 laid off bankers waiting in line for 500 silver mining jobs.

they want to work in Financial Services, let them mine Precious Metals. not THAT's a Financial Service ! :)


one of the things i notice about many conventional environmentalists (working at environmental organizations) is that - they have jobs.

for them to use their sinecure - frequently a result of Jewish nepotism - to oppose development that will create jobs for Gentiles 5, 10, or 20 years down the road - well, they just show their true priorities.

the problem is that the court system does not consider Homo Sapiens Americanus Gentile-us to be an endangered species.


maybe we should all learn to moo or make bird sounds and claim endangered species status.

and convince PETA to consider Ethical Treatment of Animals and Humans. i guess then they would be PETAH.

[General of Darkness]

i like a lot of the things 'leftists' like. but maybe - i'm slightly more realistic ?

i like the environment, but when it comes to endangered species, preference must be given to Homo Sapiens over Spotted Owls and Striped Mullets.


as far as Labor, i think Labor has the right to Assemble - a Constitutional Right. Of course, that right does not protect them from the realities of the market, especially when trade barriers are lowered and American workers are forced to compete with Chinese workers making $1 an hour (if they're 'lucky').

however, i do support Out-sourcing of many Bankster Jobs. i wouldn't mind seeing 50,000 laid off bankers waiting in line for 500 silver mining jobs.

they want to work in Financial Services, let them mine Precious Metals. not THAT's a Financial Service ! :)


one of the things i notice about many conventional environmentalists (working at environmental organizations) is that - they have jobs.

for them to use their sinecure - frequently a result of Jewish nepotism - to oppose development that will create jobs for Gentiles 5, 10, or 20 years down the road - well, they just show their true priorities.

the problem is that the court system does not consider Homo Sapiens Americanus Gentile-us to be an endangered species.


maybe we should all learn to moo or make bird sounds and claim endangered species status.

and convince PETA to consider Ethical Treatment of Animals and Humans. i guess then they would be PETAH.

You probably didn't know this but most of what the German Nationalist Party, AKA NAZI'S standed for are now left ideas. Environments etc. Interesting, huh?

[ArgenteumTelum]

Second Amendment Hypocrites: Senators Schumer and Feinstein Pack Heat
http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=10104


Quote:


Not only does Schumer carry a handgun, the New York City Police Department also provides armed escorts for the good senator. In fact, the Government Accounting Office -- the investigative arm of the US Congress -- slammed Schumer's use of police resources for personal protection. It's clear that Schumer believes he's special. He wishes to ban private citizens' ownership of firearms, while he enjoys layers of protection.

"No wonder Chuckie Schumer shoots his mouth off so much - he's able to protect himself," says a 25-year police veteran.

Also, a check of Pistol License records shows that Senator Schumer possesses an "unrestricted" pistol permit, a rarity in New York City. Licenses are distributed in different categories in the Big Apple: Target Permits allow only use of a firearm at a licensed firing range; Premises Permits allow weapons to be kept in a home or apartment; Restricted Permits allow the gunowner to carry their firearms concealed but only within the purview of their job (security, jewelers, armored car guards, etc.). So it's evident that Senator Schumer has two sets of rules -- one for Americans and one for himself.

And then we have Senator Diane Feinstein on the Left Coast who possesses something more rare than a conservative Republican in San Francisco - an unrestricted concealed weapons permit. Apparently without shame, she participated in a citywide gun turn-in program that was intended to create some kind of statue from the donated guns that were to be melted down. One of her police body guards let it slip that she contributed a cheap model for the meltdown, while retaining her .357 magnum revolver for her own personal self-defense.

[palani]

What is an assault weapon? Is that like a howitzer? A mortar? Is the USS Iowa an assault weapon? How about a pit studded with shit dipped pungi sticks? Is it ok to carry a crossbow as long as it is not bent?

[Ponce]

Some American may act as sheeps and turn in their weapons......but.....not one single Mexican will turn it theirs, they will not give their future away.

Their parts in CA where the cops will not go in, even with the SWAT team.........maybe with the army.

Having guns means freedom, not having them means death

[Shami-Amourae]

Some American may act as sheeps and turn in their weapons......but.....not one single Mexican will turn it theirs, they will not give their future away.

Their parts in CA where the cops will not go in, even with the SWAT team.........maybe with the army.

Having guns means freedom, not having them means death


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfA9_Z1RlNs

[midnight rambler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfA9_Z1RlNs

Shit, in that video apparently someone turned in a Marlin Golden 39A .22 lever action (world's longest continuous running production gun, originally used by Annie Oakley, literally a piece of history) to be melted down - they could have easily fetched $450-500 on calguns going to someone who would genuinely appreciate it and enjoy it, but noooo, let's melt it down.

500 guns x $200 = $100,000 donated by the 'anonymous donor' (Soros?)

[collector]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfA9_Z1RlNs

Wow - $200 per gun? I have a couple of guns I'd easily turn in for that. With a little extra I can get myself a new M70 AK47 !!

[Dogman]

As the renewed gun ban debates heat up IT will get nasty!

Because of this shooting and all the kids involved, the battle to keep our gun rights will be the worst that gun owners will probably see in their lifetimes. I have no doubt that some kind of tightening up on the rules will happen at the very minimum.

And it can only get worse from there.

It will boil down on the numbers, of freedom and our rights members of society. and the others that want to ban/control of who can or can not own guns and the constitution be dammed!

Who will have the bigger number to support their goal?

Or there maybe a move to change the Constitution and the rights that are provided now.

Time will tell on this one, the one thing for sure it is going to be a very nasty fight!

[osoab]

I think finding anything prior to the new ban may be difficult as of now. I underestimated the amount of early panic.

no ammo
http://sgammo.com/

no usable website CLICK THE LINK. they only have a message.
http://www.ammoman.com/StoreClosed.htm

Nice headline banner.
http://www.cdnninvestments.com/

budsgunshop nice little disclaimer at the main site. local ffl says he charges more for transfers from buds. none of the other ffls like buds from his opinion.
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php

Suspended sales at Atlantic.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/

Fuck...



anecdotal...

Scheels in Springfield IL, is out. Just about everything but shotgun shells and some obscure mags. Out of all their AR's. Bulk ammo and pistol ammo. Walmart (Springfield) was out of all 223 and they pulled the tags for the ammo off the shelves.

[osoab]

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
Wal-Mart Stores Sell Out Of Guns (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-19/wal-mart-stores-sell-out-guns)


Yesterday, when we described the unprecedented surge in gun sales in the aftermath of the Newtown massacre, we said (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-18/gun-sales-soar-aftermath-newtown-killings) that "what is most ironic, is that it is precisely the fear of forced, unilateral rejection, by either or all three branches of government, of the original constitution and its various amendments that has Americans scrambling into gun stores. And thus the closed loop nature of the problem: by threatening to take away America's guns, the government is only exacerbating a problem that is steeped in 200+ years of history and is engrained deep in American psychology." It took about 24 hours to demonstrate just how counterproductive government intervention always is: as of this moment, Bloomberg reports, Wal-Mart, the biggest retailer in the US and the world, has stores in at least five states where guns are now completely out of stock.

[AndreaGail]

Scheels in Springfield IL, is out. Just about everything but shotgun shells and some obscure mags. Out of all their AR's. Bulk ammo and pistol ammo. Walmart (Springfield) was out of all 223 and they pulled the tags for the ammo off the shelves.
Same thing in CO...all ammo and magazines sold out at 3 different big box stores I went too minus the random calibers

[madfranks]

Same thing in CO...all ammo and magazines sold out at 3 different big box stores I went too minus the random calibers

Me too. Haven't been able to find shit. Thankfully, I got what I needed long ago and I'm not really in the market for more right now.

[AndreaGail]

Sen. Feinstein suggests national buyback of guns


Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said that she and other gun control advocates are considering a law that would create a program to purchase weapons from gun owners, a proposal that could be compulsory.

“We are also looking at a buy-back program,” Feinstein said today in a press conference. “Now, again, this is a work in progress so these are ideas in the development.”

Gov. Andrew Cuomo, D-N.Y., already discussed the possibility of a buy-back law for his state, but he made clear it would be a forced buyback.

“Confiscation could be an option,” Cuomo told The New York Times yesterday when discussing semiautomatic weapons. “Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.”

Australia implemented a mandatory buyback program in 1996 following a mass shooting. “The law banned semiautomatic and automatic rifles and shotguns and put in place a mandatory buy-back program for newly banned weapons,” USA Today recalls. “The buyback led to the destruction of 650,000 gun.”

Some liberal activists want the policy imitated here. “That would be like destroying 50 million guns in America today,” the Center for American Progress’ Matt Miller wrote after noting that Australia eliminated 20 percent of the weapons in the country. “The Australian ‘outlaw and repurchase’ option is one approach. But if Congress balks at banning certain weapons entirely, it could make gun owners an offer they can’t refuse. Instead of $200 a gun, Uncle Sam might offer $500.”

Feinstein also said that that former President Bill Clinton had volunteered, on a phone call, to help her get a new gun law passed.

“[Clinton] was talking about the battle back in 1993 with the bill that, interestingly enough, was introduced and passed within the year fo 1993 and went into effect in 1994,” she said. “And, of course, he was president and the White House came alive and was very very helpful in enabling the passage of that bill both in the senate and in the House. So, to have him part of the team again is really quote special for us.”

http://washingtonexaminer.com/sen.-feinstein-suggests-national-buyback-of-guns/article/2516648

[willie pete]

feinswine, now that's one bitch I can say I honestly hate....

[Norweger]

Fascinating that she is still into politics at the age of 79. Must be a purely demonic motivation.

It's a woman that is pushing for semi-auto ban in Norway as well... or works as the figurehead so to speak.

[sirgonzo420]

Fascinating that she is still into politics at the age of 79. Must be a purely demonic motivation.

It's a woman that is pushing for semi-auto ban in Norway as well... or works as the figurehead so to speak.

They are probably cousins!

[Norweger]

Here she is. The leader of the 22 July commission.

This hag even claimed in their phony commission that you could easily convert a semi-auto to a fully automatic rifle by just changing the magazines.. she found out later how that just isn't the case, but didn't change her opinion one bit. In an unprepared interview where she exposed her idiotic thinking she said something to the effect of "It's a good thing to ban firearms because then we force criminals down another path which makes it easier for them to be captured by the system at an earlier stage".

http://gfx.nrk.no/fJE3mjCnQy8GC-QJr3F1XAZkLTS48E2cV5ms7dGk3_8Q.jpg

[midnight rambler]

it could make gun owners an offer they can’t refuse.

Yeah, here's the 'offer': give up your guns and we won't put a .40 S&W hollowpoint bullet in your melon.

[madfranks]

Gov. Andrew Cuomo, D-N.Y., already discussed the possibility of a buy-back law for his state, but he made clear it would be a forced buyback.

“Confiscation could be an option,” Cuomo told The New York Times yesterday when discussing semiautomatic weapons. “Mandatory sale to the state could be an option.

But nobody has been more vocal in defense of the 2nd amendment than him.

[BarnkleBob]

The Facts
Since 1974, more than 90 percent of all state prisoners have been repeat offenders
70% of America’s crime is committed by 6% of its criminals
Bright Lines, Dark Deeds: Counting Convictions Under the Armed Career Criminal Act by James E Hooper; Michigan Law Review, Vol. 89, 1991
http://www.dnasaves.org/dna_law.php
Seems to me that the liberal idea & concept Of repeat rehabilitation is a complete failure.... The libs rather than admit they are failures seek to shift the blame upon the general public....

[midnight rambler]

The Facts
Since 1974, more than 90 percent of all state prisoners have been repeat offenders
70% of America’s crime is committed by 6% of its criminals
Bright Lines, Dark Deeds: Counting Convictions Under the Armed Career Criminal Act by James E Hooper; Michigan Law Review, Vol. 89, 1991
http://www.dnasaves.org/dna_law.php
Seems to me that the liberal idea & concept Of repeat rehabilitation is a complete failure.... The libs rather than admit they are failures seek to shift the blame upon the general public....

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with crazed lone gunmen impaired with mental disorders who have such easy access to guns.




/sarc

[BarnkleBob]

Data collection
The data presented in Crime in the United States reflect the Hierarchy Rule, which requires that only the most serious offense in a multiple-offense criminal incident be counted. The descending order of UCR violent crimes are murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault, followed by the property crimes of burglary, larceny-theft, and motor vehicle theft. Although arson is also a property crime, the Hierarchy Rule does not apply to the offense of arson. In cases in which an arson occurs in conjunction with another violent or property crime, both crimes are reported, the arson and the additional crime.

Overview
In 2011, an estimated 1,203,564 violent crimes occurred nationwide, a decrease of 3.8 percent from the 2010 estimate.
When considering 5- and 10-year trends, the 2011 estimated violent crime total was 15.4 percent below the 2007 level and 15.5 percent below the 2002 level.
There were an estimated 386.3 violent crimes per 100,000 inhabitants in 2011.
Aggravated assaults accounted for the highest number of violent crimes reported to law enforcement at 62.4 percent. Robbery comprised 29.4 percent of violent crimes, forcible rape accounted for 6.9 percent, and murder accounted for 1.2 percent of estimated violent crimes in 2011.
Information collected regarding type of weapon showed that firearms were used in 67.7 percent of the nation’s murders, 41.3 percent of robberies, and 21.2 percent of aggravated assaults. (Weapons data are not collected for forcible rape.) (See Expanded Homicide Data Table 7, Robbery Table 3, and the Aggravated Assault Table.) http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr.../violent-crime
The statistics evidence that 70+% of all crime is committed by repeat offenders...thus about 900,000 of the above crimes were committed by repeat offenders.... We, the general public should be outraged and we should put the libs, politicians & MSM under the microscope for moving on our rights when the statistics clearly evidence WE are not the problem!

[Cebu_4_2]

So what are you trying to tell me?

[AndreaGail]

Summary of 2013 legislation


Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:
Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
120 specifically-named firearms
Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds
Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:
Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test
Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test
Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans
Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:
Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment
Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and
Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons
Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons

[drafter]

"Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law;"

Haha, yeah right, when pigs fly!

[Steal]

duplicate

[PatColo]

harvested from a few sites,


To Stop Mass Killings, Limit the First Amendment, Not the Second! | Truth Jihad News (http://truthjihad.com/news/?p=249)

Tyranny Red Alert: Traitorous [Gun-Toting] Senator Feinstein Seeking to Criminalize Nearly All Firearms, Require Nationwide Registration and Fingerprinting of All Gun Owners (http://www.naturalnews.com/038483_Senator_Feinstein_gun_control_registration. html)

Record Gun Sales as the Soviet Socialist Insurgency Falters (http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/record-gun-sales-as-the-soviet-socialist-insurgency-falters/29258/)

Sandy Hook- No “Assault Weapons” Used- What Now Gun-Grabbers?!? (http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/sandy-hook-no-assault-weapons-used-what-now-gun-grabbers/29263/)

Feinstein & Cuomo Admit Planning Australian Style Government Gun Buy Back (http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/feinstein-cuomo-admit-planning-australian-style-government-gun-buy-back/29265/)

Operation Gladio: State-Sponsored Terrorism in Europe - CIA and M16 Secret Army Murdered Hundreds and Blamed it on 'Extremists' (http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/operation-gladio-state-sponsored-terrorism-in-europe-full-version/)

Subversive, seditious journalist Piers Morgan must be arrested, prosected for crimes against America (http://www.naturalnews.com/038481_Piers_Morgan_sedition_deportation.html)

(http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/12/the-fbi-drowning-in-counter-terrorism-money-power-and-other-resources-will-apply-the-term-terrorism-to-any-group-it-dislikes-and-wants-to-control-and-suppress.html)The FBI – Drowning In Counter-Terrorism Money, Power and Other Resources – Will Apply The Term “Terrorism” To Any Group It Dislikes And Wants To Control And Suppress (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/12/the-fbi-drowning-in-counter-terrorism-money-power-and-other-resources-will-apply-the-term-terrorism-to-any-group-it-dislikes-and-wants-to-control-and-suppress.html)

Obama Administration Intends to Increase Limits on Gun Ownership (http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/obama-administration-intends-to-increase-limits-on-gun-ownership/29213/)

Celebrating Christmas with a bang: Americans pose happily by the tree with guns they were given as gifts despite wake of deadly shootings

(http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/celebrating-christmas-with-a-bang-americans-pose-happily-by-the-tree-with-guns-they-were-given-as-gifts-despite-wake-of-deadly-shootings/29222/)
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/26/article-2253337-16A7B7AB000005DC-972_634x628.jpg



Facebook Bans Gandhi Quote as Part of Revisionist History Purge

(http://www.naturalnews.com/038484_Gandhi_quote_Facebook_censorship.html)
"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." - Mohandas Gandhi, an Autobiography, page 446.


West fears Iranian media (http://presstv.com/detail/2012/12/26/280157/iranian-media-terrorizes-west/)

If You Are On This List You May Be In Grave Danger (http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/if-you-are-on-this-list-you-may-be-in-grave-danger/29204/)
It’s pretty safe to say that if one were to have a sign placed in front of their home, Americans would overwhelmingly prefer to have this one:
http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/gunlist-survivorswillbeshot.jpg



As opposed to being the neighbor in this photo:

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/gunlist-unarmed.jpeg



Concealed Carry at Work (in Israel) (http://xrepublic.tv/node/1531)
gets interesting around the middle, carjack nut,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwKq9vY6wp8

[Tumbleweed]

I can't help but thinking that lots of school teachers like this little gal in the video would be the best solution to these school shootings



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzvREaIJvG8

[PatColo]

^ is there any videos of her doing that gig topless? :D

Why do 'They' want Americans disarmed ? - Aug 23, 1991 William Cooper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb_OyFTi6QY)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb_OyFTi6QY

[Tumbleweed]

^ is there any videos of her doing that gig topless? :D



I doubt it Pat. She strikes me as a nice girl, a sweetheart, the girl next door every guy would like to marry.

[PatColo]

^ yeah I agree, just posted that for shits & giggles. Nice girl, a sweetheart, the girl next door every guy would like to marry- and that lucky husband would privately get to see her practice her gig with her big'ns unobscured... :D

@ WRH, just check his RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS (http://whatreallyhappened.com/category/right-bear-arms) category for all the latest stories...

House Dems to propose large-capacity gun magazine ban (http://www.salon.com/2012/12/28/house_dems_to_propose_large_capacity_magazine_ban/)

Tags:

RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS (http://whatreallyhappened.com/category/right-bear-arms)


It would not include equipment that is already legally owned
Let's quit pussy-footing around the issue. This is not about hunting and target shooting. The Second Amendment reserves to We The People military-grade weapons to protect ourselves from those 500 tyrants inside Washington DC.

[willie pete]

I can't help but thinking that lots of school teachers like this little gal in the video would be the best solution to these school shootings



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzvREaIJvG8


I love this one......a big "way to go " should go out to Dad...


http://youtu.be/irykjLjuKo8

[Steal]

good rant!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgoVzWIn3gI

[Tumbleweed]

I've sent emails to my congress critter and senators to fight Fineswines bill with no compromises and will call there offices to follow up monday. I've belonged to GOA for quite a few years and have made a donation to help them fight the gun grabbers.

[willie pete]

GOA is far superior than the NRA, I gave up my NRA membership more than 20 years ago, I could see back then they'd more or less sold out

[PatColo]

found @ http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/ -The Russian Press Pravda Message to Americans: Do not give up your guns


Americans never give up your guns (http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/28-12-2012/123335-americans_guns-0/)

28.12.2012


By Stanislav Mishin


These days, there are very few things to admire about the socialist, bankrupt and culturally degenerating USA, but at least so far, one thing remains: the right to bare arms and use deadly force to defend one’s self and possessions.


This will probably come as a total shock to most of my Western readers, but at one point, Russia was one of the most heavily armed societies on earth. This was, of course, when we were free under the Tsar. Weapons, from swords and spears to pistols, rifles and shotguns were everywhere, common items. People carried them concealed, they carried them holstered. Fighting knives were a prominent part of many traditional attires and those little tubes criss crossing on the costumes of Cossacks and various Caucasian peoples? Well those are bullet holders for rifles.


Various armies, such as the Poles, during the Смута (Times of Troubles), or Napoleon, or the Germans even as the Tsarist state collapsed under the weight of WW1 and Wall Street monies, found that holding Russian lands was much much harder than taking them and taking was no easy walk in the park but a blood bath all its own. In holding, one faced an extremely well armed and aggressive population Hell bent on exterminating or driving out the aggression.


This well armed population was what allowed the various White factions to rise up, no matter how disorganized politically and militarily they were in 1918 and wage a savage civil war against the Reds. It should be noted that many of these armies were armed peasants, villagers, farmers and merchants, protecting their own. If it had not been for Washington’s clandestine support of and for the Reds, history would have gone quite differently.


Moscow fell, for example, not from a lack of weapons to defend it, but from the lieing guile of the Reds. Ten thousand Reds took Moscow and were opposed only by some few hundreds of officer cadets and their instructors. Even then the battle was fierce and losses high. However, in the city alone, at that time, lived over 30,000 military officers (both active and retired), all with their own issued weapons and ammunition, plus tens of thousands of other citizens who were armed. The Soviets promised to leave them all alone if they did not intervene. They did not and for that were asked afterwards to come register themselves and their weapons: where they were promptly shot.


Of course being savages, murderers and liars does not mean being stupid and the Reds learned from their Civil War experience. One of the first things they did was to disarm the population. From that point, mass repression, mass arrests, mass deportations, mass murder, mass starvation were all a safe game for the powers that were. The worst they had to fear was a pitchfork in the guts or a knife in the back or the occasional hunting rifle. Not much for soldiers.


To this day, with the Soviet Union now dead 21 years, with a whole generation born and raised to adulthood without the SU, we are still denied our basic and traditional rights to self defense. Why? We are told that everyone would just start shooting each other and crime would be everywhere….but criminals are still armed and still murdering and to often, especially in the far regions, those criminals wear the uniforms of the police. The fact that everyone would start shooting is also laughable when statistics are examined.


While President Putin pushes through reforms, the local authorities, especially in our vast hinterland, do not feel they need to act like they work for the people. They do as they please, a tyrannical class who knows they have absolutely nothing to fear from a relatively unarmed population. This in turn breeds not respect but absolute contempt and often enough, criminal abuse.


For those of us fighting for our traditional rights, the US 2nd Amendment is a rare light in an ever darkening room. Governments will use the excuse of trying to protect the people from maniacs and crime, but are in reality, it is the bureaucrats protecting their power and position. In all cases where guns are banned, gun crime continues and often increases. As for maniacs, be it nuts with cars (NYC, Chapel Hill NC), swords (Japan), knives (China) or home made bombs (everywhere), insane people strike. They throw acid (Pakistan, UK), they throw fire bombs (France), they attack. What is worse, is, that the best way to stop a maniac is not psychology or jail or “talking to them”, it is a bullet in the head, that is why they are a maniac, because they are incapable of living in reality or stopping themselves.


The excuse that people will start shooting each other is also plain and silly. So it is our politicians saying that our society is full of incapable adolescents who can never be trusted? Then, please explain how we can trust them or the police, who themselves grew up and came from the same culture?


No it is about power and a total power over the people. There is a lot of desire to bad mouth the Tsar, particularly by the Communists, who claim he was a tyrant, and yet under him we were armed and under the progressives disarmed. Do not be fooled by a belief that progressives, leftists hate guns. Oh, no, they do not. What they hate is guns in the hands of those who are not marching in lock step of their ideology. They hate guns in the hands of those who think for themselves and do not obey without question. They hate guns in those whom they have slated for a barrel to the back of the ear.


So, do not fall for the false promises and do not extinguish the light that is left to allow humanity a measure of self respect.

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/28-12-2012/123335-americans_guns-0/

[vacuum]

Oh man....the thought of what the disarmed russians went through should send a chill down everyone's spine. I didn't know they used to have weapons ubiquitously...talk about the need to learn a lesson if there ever was one.

[PatColo]

^ what I'd like to learn more about are the logistical details of their "disarming", given there was no prior registration of guns to work with. I can't believe they'd all just line up and turn in all they had. I'm thinking it was some sort of incentive, like an engineered food shortage, then guns for food... along those lines?

[vacuum]

Or maybe they were just good-natured trusting farmers who didn't know what genocide or a world war was? Kind of like native americans who didn't understand the concept of "war" like the white man did?

[midnight rambler]

Zero expects "resistance" to his gun control intentions.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20121230/DA3G50V00.html

[Twisted Titan]

If just 0.5 of the 80 million gun owners feels like us that means there are 400,000 ready to do whatever is required to protect themselves and family

Sociopaths are cowards and they would NEVER take on that many people with kind of mindset.

They are crazy but not dum

[midnight rambler]

If just 0.5 of the 80 million gun owners feels like us that means there are 400,000 ready to do whatever is required to protect themselves and family

Sociopaths are cowards and they would NEVER take on that many people with kind of mindset.

They are crazy but not dum

And many of those have prior military experience.

However never underestimate what the Communists and other collectivists are capable of. NEVER.

[PlatinumBlonde]

^ what I'd like to learn more about are the logistical details of their "disarming", given there was no prior registration of guns to work with. I can't believe they'd all just line up and turn in all they had. I'm thinking it was some sort of incentive, like an engineered food shortage, then guns for food... along those lines?

They may have disarmed them via ammo..

[vacuum]

Zero expects "resistance" to his gun control intentions.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20121230/DA3G50V00.html

Kind of a strange interview.


"I am skeptical that the only answer is putting more guns in schools," Obama said. "And I think the vast majority of the American people are skeptical that that somehow is going to solve our problem."
Why would he even acknowledge this solution exists? Why bring it up? Why imply it's "an answer"?



Obama said he intended to press the issue with the public.

"Will there be resistance? Absolutely there will be resistance," he said.

"The question then becomes whether we are actually shook up enough by what happened here that it does not just become another one of these routine episodes where it gets a lot of attention for a couple of weeks and then it drifts away. It certainly won't feel like that to me. This is something that - you know, that was the worst day of my presidency. And it's not something that I want to see repeated."

That's kind of a weird thing to say.

[AndreaGail]

^^I read it as do we have enough momentum to go full steam ahead with the legislation or do we need another one of these manufactured tragedies to win over enough support

[midnight rambler]

That's kind of a weird thing to say.

Not so weird for someone who's 'in the loop' with respect to the FF aspect and someone incapable of deep thought.

I found the "more guns in schools" comment very interesting.

[midnight rambler]

^^I read it as do we have enough momentum to go full steam ahead with the legislation or do we need another one of these manufactured tragedies to win over enough support

The collectivists will never win over 'enough' (i.e. more) support, they're already at their limit now, imo. They will simply scream louder.

"Force shits on reason's back." --Ben Franklin

[Libertytree]

The collectivists will never win over 'enough' (i.e. more) support, they're already at their limit now, imo. They will simply scream louder.

"Force shits on reason's back." --Ben Franklin

Gotta link fer that? If that's legit it's sig material, if you don't mind.

[midnight rambler]

Gotta link fer that? If that's legit it's sig material, if you don't mind.

Upon first seeing it I did a 'net search and I'm convinced it's legit (although anyone could have made it up, it's still true).

[vacuum]

(http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/274881-obama-hopes-to-enact-new-gun-control-measures-in-2013#) Here's the top story on drudge right now:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/274881-obama-hopes-to-enact-new-gun-control-measures-in-2013

Here's the most upvoted comment on that story:
jleinf • 10 hours ago (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/274881-obama-hopes-to-enact-new-gun-control-measures-in-2013#comment-751441961) Nice, the person who approved fast and furious, the Benghazi operation and new wars in the middle east is going to save humanity-Lovely
2063 (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/274881-obama-hopes-to-enact-new-gun-control-measures-in-2013#) 4


It's not looking good for them.

[vacuum]

The other big takeaway I get is that the president is talking about putting together a bill and getting it through this year. We don't hear any talk about executive orders. Once he starts pushing a bill through, it kind of stops any possible executive order.

[gunDriller]

They may have disarmed them via ammo..

it's not like FeinWhine is going to disarm us with her Sly Wit, her Toothy Smile, or her curvacious Bod.

but she's trying !

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Dianne_Feinstein_2010.jpg/220px-Dianne_Feinstein_2010.jpg

"Dick, did you take your Viagra yet ?"

FeinWhine in 2010.



http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/10/66/64/2321727/9/628x471.jpg

"Also in 1984, Feinstein proposed banning handguns in San Francisco, and became subject to a recall attempt organized by the White Panther Party. She won the recall election and finished her second term as mayor on January 8, 1988."


so this Bitch has been at it for 28+ years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianne_Feinstein


what a beautiful couple. Blum looks a little worried.

http://foundsf.org/images/1/1b/Sen_dianne_feinstein_d_calif_smiles_along_with_her _husband_richard_blum_left_at_a_democratic_electio n_party_in_san_francisco_tuesday_nov_7_2006.jpg

[midnight rambler]

Zero says he's going to "put his full weight behind" his gun control efforts, but I gotta tell ya, that's one very scrawny Negro -

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_of9ue2vob2g/Sm0icrxXcTI/AAAAAAAAJxg/gFyUXW3Kjsk/s400/obama+golfing.JPG

[PatColo]

Celebrating Christmas with a bang: Americans pose happily by the tree with guns they were given as gifts despite wake of deadly shootings (http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/celebrating-christmas-with-a-bang-americans-pose-happily-by-the-tree-with-guns-they-were-given-as-gifts-despite-wake-of-deadly-shootings/29222/)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppOXpyhM2wA

http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples_resource/image/18142

my, what fat left hand fingers on Ralphie's new scoped Red Ryder AR-15! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Christmas_Story#Red_Ryder_BB_gun) :D

hope he doesn't shoot anyone's eye out now, :(


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZh7OZ5Xc4Q

[vacuum]

http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples_resource/image/18142

my, what fat left hand fingers on Ralphie's new scoped Red Ryder AR-15! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Christmas_Story#Red_Ryder_BB_gun) :D
wow! 8 year olds with AR15s! I guess that's what happens when weapons become non-transferable. There's no passing anything down...everyone gets a gun!

[Cebu_4_2]

Zero says he's going to "put his full weight behind" his gun control efforts, but I gotta tell ya, that's one very scrawny Negro -

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_of9ue2vob2g/Sm0icrxXcTI/AAAAAAAAJxg/gFyUXW3Kjsk/s400/obama+golfing.JPG

C'mon my cat take that imposter out.

[Cebu_4_2]

HAHAHA he has a boner or some shit.

[PatColo]

Ernst Zundel Warns The Jews About Doing To America What They Did To Germany (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGATDr0cDfI)
@ 1:50,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGATDr0cDfI

[midnight rambler]

Ernst Zundel Warns The Jews About Doing To America What They Did To Germany (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGATDr0cDfI)
@ 1:50,

I think that's a very accurate observation.

[vacuum]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ooa98FHuaU0

[midnight rambler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ooa98FHuaU0

That was a wow moment.

[Twisted Titan]

If this vid goes viral watch the FBI magically scrub that list

Everybody better go and take a snapshot of it right now before it tumbles down the memory whole

[PatColo]

YT desc in that crime stats vid - I always appreciate when posters incl it with YT vids (where it's relevant, IE music vids etc don't matter), I like to know who & when it was uploaded, and any description and links included. This crime stats vid is a good example of why,


Choose Your Own Crime Stats


http://i2.ytimg.com/i/aGoVAB64Ojh3JU_VPis8ig/1.jpg?v=50e1c3a7 (http://www.youtube.com/user/AmidsTheNoise?feature=watch)AmidsTheNoise (http://www.youtube.com/user/AmidsTheNoise?feature=watch)·1 video (http://www.youtube.com/user/AmidsTheNoise/videos)
Published on Dec 31, 2012
Crime stats they'd rather you not hear.


www.facebook.com/AmidstTheNoise (http://www.facebook.com/AmidstTheNoise)
Sources:

FBI Uniform Crime Reports Table 1
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-1

FBI Uniform Crime Reports Table 16
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table_16_rate_number_of_crimes_per_100000_inhabita nts_by_population_group_2011.xls

FBI Uniform Crime Repots Table 8
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

Crimes Detected in England and Wales 2011/2012
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/science-research-statistics/research-statistics/crime-research/hosb0812/hosb0812?view=Binary


^ when I C/P YT descriptions with links included into messaageboard posts, I de-spy-tracker the links as I did with the 5 links above, which can be a bit laborious, and which I'm too lazy to type proper details on now- some know what I mean!

[PatColo]

latest BroNat vid, reader comments inside:
Jews Lead Gun Control Charge (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=783) # 7 (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=783#comments)
December 31, 2012


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zy227hN5B0

BroNat article 5 days prior, reader comments inside:

Creeping Steps Of ‘Jewish’ Gun Control (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=782) # 62 (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=782#comments)

December 26, 2012


http://www.trueorthodox.com/pictures/jewcreep.jpg

YOU CAN SEE IT COMING a mile away…

For in the aftermath of Sandy Hook with all the Jewish-driven clamoring for tighter ‘gun control,’ we can now expect the rolling out of a greatly expanded role for Homeland Security and its grope your groin arm…the TSA.


The propaganda for even more Jewish control over our lives AND our private property, especially guns, is now in full swing…and the Jewish-owned press is exploiting the massacre of young children to advance its manipulation of the minds of the masses.


In an OpEd (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/17/15971960-conn-massacre-lessons-from-israel-where-guns-are-a-way-of-life?lite) on NBC News, (Jewish-owned (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=759)), an “Israeli model” for gun control is being hyped, plugged, and expectantly swallowed by zionist dupe, Jew-loving, ‘evangelical’ christians.


The deceptively titled article, “Conn. massacre: Lessons from Israel, Where Guns Are a Way of Life,” (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/17/15971960-conn-massacre-lessons-from-israel-where-guns-are-a-way-of-life?lite) penned by Jewish journalist (why, of course, a Jew!) Paul Goldman, would have the reader think that it’s a piece that all advocates of the 2nd Amendment would applaud. NOT SO.


http://www.trueorthodox.com/pictures/jewcurveb.jpg Goldman throws his Jewish curve ball quickly, enthusing for Israel’s policy (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/17/15971960-conn-massacre-lessons-from-israel-where-guns-are-a-way-of-life?lite) of gun checks of cars and personal belongings at Israeli cafes, movies theaters, public buildings and malls.


THE JEWISH PROPAGANDA gets thicker as the article proceeds.



The author spins the deception (you must always watch these Jews very carefully) that while “young soldiers carrying M16 rifles are a common sight on main streets” in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, at the same time, “ownership of assault rifles by a private person is forbidden.”


Foul! EVERY young Israel citizen MUST (http://www.mahal-idf-volunteers.org/information/background/content.htm) enlist in the Israeli army, (it’s the LAW (http://www.mahal-idf-volunteers.org/information/background/content.htm)…compulsory enlistment (http://www.mahal-idf-volunteers.org/information/background/content.htm) for both men and women), and that’s why “young soldiers carrying M16 ASSAULT rifles are indeed a “common sight.”


Yet, Goldman would have us swallow that “private persons” are “forbidden” to own “assault rifles” in Israel.


Tell me, Mr Jewish-spin Goldman…


What do these young soldiers do with their M16s once they get home from the streets of Jerusalem and Tel Aviv? Throw away their assault rifles until they go back to their military barracks? Tel Aviv us another one Mr Goldberg!


Do you see the Jewish strategy here? Goldman hypes the “Israeli model” for a Jewish police state in America complete with “gun checks” at every mall, theatre, and highway, AND a total disarming of the gullible goyim.


http://www.trueorthodox.com/pictures/jewrymall.jpg

JEWISH SENATOR JOSEPH LIEBERMAN, head of the Senate Committee for Homeland Security, and his synagogue buddy, Michael Chertoff, (his Porno Scanners (http://www.politicolnews.com/chertoff-lobbyists-and-airport-scanners/) are in EVERY airport), are licking their chops.


And ALL of the gullible ‘evangelical’ pro-gunners will go along because America will be following their Jewish masters’ lead over in Israhell.


It’s a done deal.


Just think of all the Goyim you see raising their arms and spreading their legs as they pass through Chertoff’s porno scanners in the airports.


And soon, the Goys will be surrendering their guns (and souls) to the Jews at every “Gun Watch” station…coming NEXT to a theatre, highway, and mall near you…

[gunDriller]

BroNat article:

Creeping Steps Of ‘Jewish’ Gun Control (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=782) # 62 (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=782#comments)
December 26, 2012

latest vid:
Jews Lead Gun Control Charge (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=783) # 7 (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=783#comments)
December 31, 2012

Jews are not ALWAYS in favor of Gun Control - THEY LOVE GUNS - as long as the guns are held by
A/ other Jews, or
B/ Gentiles who work for Jews.

When it comes to Gentiles owning Guns, THEN the Jews want Gun Control.

Just ask any Israeli Jew about letting the Palestinians have some decent hunting rifles.


FeinSwineWhine is of the same ilk. She can't bear to let the Gentiles own guns - or she would have led the charge for Intensive Firearms Training for ALL American school-teachers, so they would have gone back to class ready for Bear.

Instead, whether classes start on Jan. 3 or Jan. 7, the students will be JUST AS DEFENSELESS as they were in Newtown on Dec. 14.

[PatColo]

Jews are not ALWAYS in favor of Gun Control - THEY LOVE GUNS - as long as the guns are held by
A/ other Jews, or
B/ Gentiles who work for Jews.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHiQpFt_kqg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHiQpFt_kqg

RussiaToday (http://www.youtube.com/user/RussiaToday?feature=watch)


Uploaded on Sep 2, 2010
A Jewish group in the U.S. shares the view that Israelis are in danger wherever they are - and believes they should prepare themselves for the worst. Its members are involved in intensive training in military skills and survival methods. But as Lauren Lyster discovered, critics claim their enemy is mostly in the mind...

[Steal]

So, due to the extreem velocity achieved, by leverage on the "wrist rocket" these to will be banned soon ? bollacks!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onUvaohduvI

[Horn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zy227hN5B0


We all need to pitch in and get Brother Nathanial an infiltrators hair trim.

[Libertytree]

We all need to pitch in and get Brother Nathanial an infiltrators hair trim.

He don't need a hair trim, he just needs a ballcap, some jeans and a flannel shirt.

[Horn]

He don't need a hair trim, he just needs a ballcap, some jeans and a flannel shirt.

At least its above the ears.

My father in-law has that much hair coming out of his ears...

[PatColo]

Rothschild Zionist law professor: Scrap ‘archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil’ Constitution (which just happens to be the Rothschild agenda, as is disarming the American population - see proposed bill by Rothschild Zionist Dianne Goldman Feinstein) (http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/31/georgetown-law-professor-scrap-archaic-idiosyncratic-and-downright-evil-constitution)
Wednesday, 02 January 2013 11:31


Just a coincidence, nothing to worry about.
http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/January20130/israelelephant2.jpg

The Jewish population of America (many of whom will not be Rothschild Zionists) is less than 2%. But their political, financial, corporate, media and 'entertainment' industry influence is collosal and fundamental. This is why government payments to the poor and destitute are cut and cut, but never the billions handed by the United States every year to Israel.



If the same situation were true with regard to African-Americans, Hispanics, Chinese, Russians, Mexicans, Australians, etc., there would be an outcry that a minority was controlling America. But to expose this blatant elephant in the living room when it applies to a micro-minority of Rothschild Zionists is to be called racist by Rothschild Zionist organisations established to do just that - the ADL, B'nai B'rith and all the rest.
Well, I don't care - the truth needs saying before the cell door finally closes.




http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/January20130/israel20sharon20usa20washington20un20european20uni on20world20trade20center20new20york.jpg Wake Up America!
Read more ... (http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/31/georgetown-law-professor-scrap-archaic-idiosyncratic-and-downright-evil-constitution)

[PatColo]

Friday, January 4, 2013

Fact Sheet: Guns Save Lives (Duh) (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/01/fact-sheet-guns-save-lives-duh.html)



by Gun Owners Foundation 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102 Springfield, VA 22151

1. Highlights

* Guns are used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year—or about 6,850 times a day.(1) This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.(2)

* Even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self-defense. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of self-defense with a firearm every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of "Guns in America"—a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig.(3)

* Concealed carry laws have reduced murder and crime rates in the states that have enacted them. According to a comprehensive study which reviewed crime statistics in every county in the United States from 1977 to 1992, states which passed concealed carry laws reduced their rate of murder by 8.5%, rape by 5%, aggravated assault by 7% and robbery by 3%.(4)

* Anti-gun journal pronounces the failure of the Brady law. One of the nation’s leading anti-gun medical publications, the Journal of the American Medical Association, found that the Brady registration law has failed to reduce murder rates. In August 2000, JAMA reported that states implementing waiting periods and background checks did "not [experience] reductions in homicide rates or overall suicide rates."(5)

* Twice as many children are killed playing football in school than are murdered by guns. That’s right. Despite what media coverage might seem to indicate, there are more deaths related to high school football than guns. In a recent three year period, twice as many football players died from hits to the head, heat stroke, etc. (45), as compared with students who were murdered by firearms (22) during that same time period.(6)

* More guns, less crime. In the decade of the 1990s, the number of guns in this country increased by roughly 40 million—even while the murder rate decreased by almost 40% percent.7 Accidental gun deaths in the home decreased by almost 40 percent as well.(8)

Read the rest here, everything is sourced. Spread around.

http://gunowners.org/fs0404.htm

[Rubberchicken]

...

[madfranks]

^ ^ ^ I think that's supposed to say "smuggled weapons", but smugged weapons is pretty funny.

[PatColo]

from AJ/HealthRangerCo, but it hits the right notes,
Demand A Real Plan - Disarmament leads to Democide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDlbg1VoMZ0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDlbg1VoMZ0


TheHealthRanger (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheHealthRanger?feature=watch)·284 videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheHealthRanger/videos)


Published on Jan 3, 2013
This hard-hitting public service announcement exposes the truth about government violence against the People: DEMOCIDE is the #1 cause of death in our world.

DEMOCIDE = mass murder committed by governments, usually after disarming the People. 290,000,000 people have been killed by governments, and U.S. Senators like Dianne Feinstein now want to make that number even higher by disarming, criminalizing and then killing U.S. citizens.

Demand a REAL plan. A plan of liberty and freedom for all.

[midnight rambler]

from AJ/HealthRangerCo, but it hits the right notes,
Demand A Real Plan - Disarmament leads to Democide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDlbg1VoMZ0)


"One death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic." --Uncle Joe Stalin

[PatColo]

here's the accompanying article to the vid ^^,
Democide: How many people will government kill this year? (http://www.infowars.com/democide-how-many-people-will-government-kill-this-year/)
parrots the "Lenin, Stalin, Hitler and Mao all banned private gun ownership" line-- I believe I heard that Hitler bit is kosher revisionist disinfo? I'd have to look up details (at non-kosher sources of course); maybe he omitted that gun ban was only in effect at internment camps? lol

[PatColo]

yes "Kaul" is a very kosher surname, http://hebrewsurnames.com ;)

Amendment, death of gun owners (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/des-moines-columnist-calls-for-repeal-of-second-amendment-death-of-gun-owners/)

Posted by crescentandcross (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/author/crescentandcross/) in Uncategorized (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/category/uncategorized/) on January 3, 2013

http://www.opencarry.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Donald_Kaul.jpg

In an op-ed at the Des Moines Register (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012312300033&gcheck=1&nclick_check=1), retired columnist Donald Kaul called for, among other things, a repeal of the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, the forced elimination of the NRA (http://www.examiner.com/topic/nra) as an organization, and the death of gun owners who refuse to give up their arms, Newsbusters reported Monday.

Read the rest of this entry » (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/des-moines-columnist-calls-for-repeal-of-second-amendment-death-of-gun-owners/#more-49647)

[joboo]

http://www.naturalnews.com/images/Dianne-Feinstein-Gremlin.jpg

[Shami-Amourae]

http://www.naturalnews.com/images/Dianne-Feinstein-Gremlin.jpg



AGHH!!! What's that scary demon looking thing to the left?

[gunDriller]

[B]In an op-ed at the Des Moines Register (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012312300033&gcheck=1&nclick_check=1), retired columnist Donald Kaul called for, among other things, a repeal of the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, the forced elimination of the NRA (http://www.examiner.com/topic/nra) as an organization, and the death of gun owners who refuse to give up their arms, Newsbusters reported Monday.


he talks tough.

[PatColo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVbDrdCm7AY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVbDrdCm7AY

Mother Shoots Home Intruder Five Times after Being Cornered in Attic


http://i4.ytimg.com/i/CR19glb_uf1gAV5dtkfv5A/1.jpg?v=504ee6a0 (http://www.youtube.com/user/djgabrielpresents?feature=watch)djgabrielpresents (http://www.youtube.com/user/djgabrielpresents?feature=watch)·271 videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/djgabrielpresents/videos)

Published on Jan 5, 2013
A Georgia mother and her two young children are unharmed after a man broke into their house with a crowbar on Friday, cornering them in an attic crawlspace. The woman was at home with her nine-year-old twins when the doorbell rang. When they didn't answer, the man reportedly went back to his car and returned with a crowbar. The mother said she could see the suspect-- now identified as Paul Slater-- trying to enter the house with the crowbar from her office window. Without hesitation, she grabbed her children, her phone, her gun, and ran upstairs.

One can only imagine the breathless moments after the man broke down the door and began searching the house.
But the man eventually found the family.

"The perpetrator opens that door. Of course, at that time he's staring at her, her two children and a .38 revolver," The woman then shot him five times, but he survived, Chapman said. He said the woman ran out of bullets but threatened to shoot the intruder if he moved.

"She's standing over him, and she realizes she's fired all six rounds. And the guy's telling her to quit shooting," Chapman said.
The woman ran to a neighbor's home with her children. The intruder attempted to flee in his car but crashed into a wooded area and collapsed in a nearby driveway, Chapman said.

Slater-- who was taken to the hospital with punctured lungs, a punctured liver, and a punctured stomach-- has reportedly been arrested six times since 2008.

"My wife is a hero. She protected her kids. She did what she was supposed to do as a responsible, prepared gun owner," [the woman's husband] Donnie Herman said.

He said he's thankful for his family's safety.

"Her life is saved, and her kids' life is saved, and that's all I'd like to say," Herman said.

Commenters have overwhelmingly agreed with the husband thus far-- one Savannah Morning News reader even posting a similar story illustrating the importance of the woman's firearm.

In the other report, after an unarmed woman's home was robbed, ​she​ was the one who ended up in the hospital with multiple gunshot wounds.



http://dancingczars.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/gun-free-cartoon-3-1.jpg?w=620

[Twisted Titan]

She should have had a Glock 26 with a 17rd magazine.

Should have turned him into swiss cheese

[PatColo]

flashback to Jan '11 AZ shooting,
Thread: Interviews with Joe Zamudio, Arizona masacre CCW hero (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?42749-Interviews-with-Joe-Zamudio-Arizona-masacre-CCW-hero)

"Tucson Shooting Hero Joe Zamudio Sets Ed Schultz Right On Owning A Pistol"
(advance playbar to 2:20 to begin the interview with Joe Zamudio... @ 5:05: "you're damn right! ..." LOL)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-3GT...eature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-3GTwalrGY&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-3GTwalrGY&feature=related

"AZ Massacre Hero Educates Geraldo on What a Responsible Gun Owner Does In a Crisis"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUmmO...eature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUmmOWL05r8&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUmmOWL05r8&feature=related

"Joe Zamudio carries gun, saves lives in Arizona during fatal shooting"
"I don't even know if I'm going to go into an airport again, because I can't take it with me."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwT3v5OpSFQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwT3v5OpSFQ

[madfranks]

She should have had a Glock 26 with a 17rd magazine.

Should have turned him into swiss cheese

True, it is incredible that she shot the guy six times with a .38 revolver and it didn't put him down, but it did stop the criminal in his tracks. The lesson is, 6 rounds is good, but 17 is better. :)

[osoab]

yes "Kaul" is a very kosher surname, http://hebrewsurnames.com ;)

Amendment, death of gun owners (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/des-moines-columnist-calls-for-repeal-of-second-amendment-death-of-gun-owners/)

Posted by crescentandcross (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/author/crescentandcross/) in Uncategorized (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/category/uncategorized/) on January 3, 2013

http://www.opencarry.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Donald_Kaul.jpg

In an op-ed at the Des Moines Register (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012312300033&gcheck=1&nclick_check=1), retired columnist Donald Kaul called for, among other things, a repeal of the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, the forced elimination of the NRA (http://www.examiner.com/topic/nra) as an organization, and the death of gun owners who refuse to give up their arms, Newsbusters reported Monday.

Read the rest of this entry » (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/des-moines-columnist-calls-for-repeal-of-second-amendment-death-of-gun-owners/#more-49647)


Same paper that ran the warning before the lusitania.

[gunDriller]

there's a great thread on the GunGrabbers in the Gunsmithing section @ Practical Machinist -

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/gunsmithing/weapons-ban-257475/
/\ the thread

http://kontradictions.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/why-not-renew-the-assault-weapons-ban-well-ill-tell-you/
/\ uses this pro-Self-Defense-Rights essay for a reference

[PatColo]

Ret. Marine Absolutely Owns CNN Anchor On 2nd Amendment - "Unconstitutional Laws Aren't Laws" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOjI6laKGYU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOjI6laKGYU

I'd add, soldiers are compelled to disobey unlawful orders.

[PatColo]

Georgia Mother's Shooting of Home Invader Puts New Spin on Gun Control Debate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEpEoWLkKMc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEpEoWLkKMc

Jebby Sanderson (http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbE4vGDNdfZ0xi-XKtnb3Aw?feature=watch)·16 videos (http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbE4vGDNdfZ0xi-XKtnb3Aw/videos)
14 4,614
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Published on Jan 7, 2013
The story of a young Georgia mother's actions during a home invasion is putting a new spin on the gun control debate.

A woman was home with her 9-year-old twins when a man began knocking on the door and persistently ringing the bell. The woman quickly called her husband and while he dialed 911, she grabbed the family's .38 revolver, her twins and shuttered them all in a closet.

The suspect then broke into the house and began ransacking it. He walked upstairs and opened the closet door, bringing the woman and her twins face-to-face with the intruder. She acted quickly, firing six shots and hitting the suspect in the face and neck.

He was able to get up and stumble out of the home. Police quickly caught up to him and arrested him.

Radio host Lars Larson pointed out that while the woman acted heroically, had there been more than one intruder, she would have been in real danger because she wouldn't have had enough bullets in that type of weapon to protect herself and her family. He said many people want a gun that is capable of holding more bullets, but "this is what the president's plan will go after."

"This president wants to take away people's rights to own the appropriate tool to repel an invader or invaders into their houses," Larson said.

That's a local Portland OR network affiliate - amazing the "pro 2nd Amendment" slant we can find in local newscasts vs the nat'l CNNs, FAUX, MSNBCs etc. :)

[madfranks]

Ret. Marine Absolutely Owns CNN Anchor On 2nd Amendment - "Unconstitutional Laws Aren't Laws" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOjI6laKGYU)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOjI6laKGYU

I'd add, soldiers are compelled to disobey unlawful orders.

Not bad, but he could have done better. He should have pointed out that Fineswine simply does not have the authority to ban any kind of arms. The constitution supposedly grants government powers delegated to them by the people. Well, "we the people" did not grant them the power to prohibit arms, in fact we specifically deny them that power.

[PatColo]

Rense last night, haven't listened but should be ~42 mins comm-free:


Listen (http://www.talkshoe.com/resources/talkshoe/images/swf/lastEpisodePlayer.swf?fileUrl=http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/1mtbr4cj8v/rense.20130107.2of3.mp3)
Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/1mtbr4cj8v/rense.20130107.2of3.mp3)
Hour 2 - Brother Nathanael (http://www.realjewnews.com/) - Jews Lead The Grab For AmericanGuns (http://brovids.com/?p=926) - Vid


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3DKuN2ey80

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3DKuN2ey80

[Shami-Amourae]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3DKuN2ey80

Lotta people throwing around the J-word in the comments...

Just saying.

[PatColo]

Americans Are Targeted for Planned Obsolescence (http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/01/05/americans-targeted-for-planned-obsolescence/)

[vacuum]

Wow, I almost have a difficult time believing this is real:




In an interview with the Daily Times Herald in Caroll, Iowa, state Rep. Dan Muhlbauer (https://www.legis.iowa.gov/Legislators/legislator.aspx?PID=10799) said governments should start confiscating semi-automatic rifles and other firearms.
Muhlbauer, a Democrat from the western Iowa town of Manilla, is a cattleman and farmer. The newspaper reported that he owns a .410 shotgun, a .22 rifle and a .22 pistol.
“We cannot have big guns out here as far as the big guns that are out here, the semi-automatics and all of them,”??? Muhlbauer told the newspaper (http://carrollspaper.com/m/Articles.aspx?ArticleID=14934) during a December 19 audiotaped interview. “We can’t have those running around out here. Those are not hunting weapons.”

“We should ban those in Iowa,” he said, adding that such a ban should be applied retroactively.
“We need to get them off the streets — illegally — and even if you have them, I think we need to start taking them,”??? Muhlbauer told the Daily Times Herald. “We can’t have those out there. Because if they’re out there they’re just going to get circulated around to the wrong people. Those guns should not be in the public’s hands. There are just too many guns.”

The newspaper published excerpts from the interview Wednesday morning along with an audio recording of the full 15-minute interview.
“We have to change, and we have to get stricter and tougher with what we do,” Muhlbauer said.


more
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/iowa-lawmaker-calls-for-retroactive-gun-bans-confiscations-of-semi-automatic-weapons/

[vacuum]

They're now talking executive orders.....


"The president is going to act," said Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. "There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-obama-might-use-executive-order-deal-guns_694984.html

[Twisted Titan]

The President has his Excutive Orders

The Freedom Fighther has his MARCHING ORDERS.

We will shall soon see which one is the most effective during these troubled times

[gunDriller]

they are simply pushing gun owners underground.

buy bullets in a state that doesn't require ID for bullets.

buy gun in private transactions, do not report.


what TPTB are trying to do is create a database of every gun-owner - and every gun - in the US.

my guess, from working in the "defense" tech sector & with 3D GIS, is that they won't do something as simple as an Excel spreadsheet. they will use Virtual Reality type tools that allow them to bring up a map of all registered weapons in a geographic area, for when they decide to dis-arm by force.

similar to the tools they use on Cop Shows on TV, like NCIS.

it's important that that map be in-accurate, regardless of which technology they use to represent the data.

[Twisted Titan]

Which is why you DONT register as that makes you a accomplice to your own demise and that of your sisters and Brothers

Whatever they have is all there going to get from me.

[midnight rambler]

CONFIRMED: Fineswine will push for NFA registration of 'grandfathered' semi-autos -

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2013/jan/22/miller-national-assault-weapon-ban-coming-thursday/

[chad]

this is way bigger than most people think it is. this is not gun control. this is disarmament of people for some predetermined event they have planned and are waiting to execute. the more and more i think about it, mass genocide on some level is the only thing that makes sense.

[osoab]

I heard some nice programming today on a national radio spot for cbs news. I cannot locate the audio.

The headline was "Protected by Smith and Wesson".

In the spot they describe a 15 year old kid from Albuquerque. He asked the cops to follow him to his house because he found his family shot to death. Cops saw guns in the van he was driving and the kid spilled the beans. Shot his mom because he was ticked at her for some reason. Then shot his siblings because they woke up. Then shot the dad when he came home. They had a sign out from of the house that said "Protected by Smith & Wesson".

The jive of the story was that the kid pulled the guns from the house that the parents had to protect themselves, just like Adam Lanza's mom. Kid was home schooled, admitted to playing violent video games even though they were banned in the house. Wanted to drive to a busy place and shoot it up so someone would shoot him.

They juiced this piece to the hilt.

The ending line by Bob Fuss (last name might be wrong) was "Protected by Smith & Wesson" with an airy exhale.

[midnight rambler]

this is way bigger than most people think it is. this is not gun control. this is disarmament of people for some predetermined event they have planned and are waiting to execute. the more and more i think about it, mass genocide on some level is the only thing that makes sense.

Like Max Igan's last video, the Death Cult *wants* conflict, and therefore civil war to erupt. That's why they are 'pushing' gun owners like they are. The Communists are on a roll, doing what they do best.

[Libertytree]

http://i.imgur.com/GQ2SXmo.png

[Rubberchicken]

She's a racist!

[Serpo]

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/Feinstein%20%28R%29.jpghttp://rense.com/

[Norweger]

In the future if the jewish stranglehold on the west is not broken then those pictures will be shown as examples of "anti-semetism" of our age kinda like der sturmer of ww2 is portrayed in the jewsmedia today.

[joboo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQMwpbSjC1A&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeRR7MwllH8&feature=player_embedded