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joboo
21st December 2012, 10:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B7YhWNqIU1g https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B7YhWNqIU1g

Glass
22nd December 2012, 01:02 AM
they want the land

Shami-Amourae
22nd December 2012, 02:21 AM
they want the land

They want everything. The government is an all consuming parasite. A majority of Americans support this too.

Twisted Titan
22nd December 2012, 02:45 AM
He can open his burger stand in Gaults Gultch.....that is where the smart people are going

woodman
22nd December 2012, 03:15 AM
I couldn't watch the whole vid. I started getting too pissed. Heavy sigh.......

Shami-Amourae
22nd December 2012, 03:19 AM
He can open his burger stand in Gaults Gultch.....that is where the smart people are going

All the Gault's Gultches I know of are only for rich people. There's none that I know of for the common small business owner.

willie pete
22nd December 2012, 06:18 AM
I don't get it, that whole area could be defined under the same definitions....why don't they close the whole neighborhood?

Shami-Amourae
22nd December 2012, 06:37 AM
I don't get it, that whole area could be defined under the same definitions....why don't they close the whole neighborhood?

They go after small business owners, one at a time. They can't destroy America overnight.

joboo
22nd December 2012, 09:13 AM
"All cooperation on behalf of the owner is completely voluntary"....volunteer or go to jail.

So they meet up there for drug transactions. How is getting rid of the place going to change that?

All they did was take away the possibility of getting a bite to eat. ?!?! Ultimately changes nothing.

The stupid...it hurts.

Cebu_4_2
22nd December 2012, 09:18 AM
I don't get it, that whole area could be defined under the same definitions....why don't they close the whole neighborhood?http://gold-silver.us/forum/clear.gif (http://gold-silver.us/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=597881)

Looks like the neighborhood is already closed.

Horn
22nd December 2012, 09:24 AM
"All cooperation on behalf of the owner is completely voluntary"....volunteer or go to jail.

So they meet up there for drug transactions. How is getting rid of the place going to change that?

All they did was take away the possibility of getting a bite to eat. ?!?! Ultimately changes nothing.

The stupid...it hurts.

The drug dealers will all just move to another area, hopefully next to one of the commissioners homes.

joboo
22nd December 2012, 09:29 AM
If we take away their hamburgers they will see the wrongs of their ways, and start obeying the law!

Brilliant! yes.... High five!

Muhahahahahahaaaa!

Libertytree
22nd December 2012, 09:33 AM
Another casualty of the war on drugs.

Horn
22nd December 2012, 09:36 AM
Another casualty of the war on drugs.

My guess is one of the local police officers wants to run the business and get a piece of the drug action.

joboo
22nd December 2012, 01:28 PM
This can't be good..ouch...

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/55-reasons-why-california-is-the-worst-state-in-america

55 Reasons Why California Is The Worst State In America

"Why in the world would anyone want to live in the state of California at this point? The entire state is rapidly becoming a bright, shining example of everything that is wrong with America. It is so sad to watch our most populated state implode right in front of our eyes. Like millions of Americans, I was quite enamored with the state of California when I was younger.

The warm weather, the beaches, the great natural beauty of the state and the mystique of Hollywood all really appealed to me. At one point I even thought that I wanted to move there. But today, hordes of Californians are racing to get out of the state because it has become a total nightmare.

It is the worst state in the country in which to do business, taxes were just raised even higher, unemployment is more than 20 percent higher than the national average and the state government is drowning in debt. Meanwhile, poverty, gang activity and crime just seem to get worse with each passing year.

On top of everything else, the insane politicians in Sacramento just keep on passing more laws that make the problems that the state is facing even worse. Unfortunately, what is happening in California may be a preview of what is coming to the entire nation. The old adage, "as California goes, so goes the nation", has been proven to be true way too many times.
In dozens of different ways, the state of California is showing the rest of us what not to do.

Will we learn from their mistakes, or will we follow them into oblivion? Please share the list below with as many people as you can. In addition to a large amount of new research, this list also pulled heavily from one of my previous articles (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/16-reasons-to-move-away-from-california) and from outstanding research done by Richard Rider (http://www.foxandhoundsdaily.com/2012/09/breaking-bad-california-vs-the-other-states/). The following are 55 reasons why California is the worst state in America...

1. One survey of business executives has ranked California as the worst state in America to do business for 8 years in a row (http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/02/business/la-fi-mo-california-worst-state-20120502).

2. In 2011, the state of California ranked 50th (http://www.forbes.com/sites/garyshapiro/2012/07/05/california-regulators-its-time-to-open-the-golden-state-for-business-once-again/) out of all 50 states in new business creation.

3. According to one recent study, California is the worst-governed state (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/29/Study-CA-worst-governed) in the entire country.

4. Thanks to Proposition 30 (http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2012/12/high-income-californians-may-pay-nations-highest-tax-rate.html), California now boasts the highest state income tax rate in the nation.

5. Even though California just raised taxes dramatically on the wealthy, state revenues are falling like a rock (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/07/CALIFORNIA-STATE-BUDGET-GOES-OFF-THE-CLIFF). State revenue for November 2012 was 10.8 percent (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/07/CALIFORNIA-STATE-BUDGET-GOES-OFF-THE-CLIFF) below projections.


6. California has the highest sales tax rate (http://taxfoundation.org/article/state-and-local-sales-tax-rates-january-1-2012) in the United States.


7. California has the 8th highest corporate income tax rate (http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/ff2012.pdf) in the country.


8. California has the highest "minimum corporate tax" in the country. Each corporation must pay at least $800 (http://www.taxes.ca.gov/corpC.shtml) to the state even if a corporation does not make a single dollar of profit.

9. California is tied with New York for the highest gasoline tax rate (http://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas-overview/industry-economics/fuel-taxes.aspx) in the country.

10. California is the only state in America that taxes carbon emissions (http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/09/californians-could-face-double-taxation-with-state-federal-carbon-taxes/#ixzz2EgPAvyuy).

11. The state of California issues some of the most expensive traffic tickets (http://www.vcstar.com/news/2011/sep/08/brown-expensive-traffic-fines-are-getting-out-of/) in the nation. This is another form of taxation.

12. As of October, only Nevada and Rhode Island (http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm) had higher unemployment rates than California.

13. The unemployment rate in California is more than 20 percent higher (http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm) than the overall unemployment rate for the rest of the nation.

14. The state of California requires licenses for 177 different occupations (http://cssrc.us/publications.aspx?id=7707) (the most in the nation). The national average is only 92.

15. California teachers are the highest paid in the nation, but California students rank 48th in math (http://www.lao.ca.gov/reports/2011/calfacts/calfacts_010511.aspx) and 49th in reading (http://www.lao.ca.gov/reports/2011/calfacts/calfacts_010511.aspx).

16. California accounts for 12 percent of the U.S. population, but a whopping 33 percent (http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/jul/28/welfare-capital-of-the-us/?print&page=all) of Americans that receive TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) live there.

17. Only the state of Illinois (http://www.calwhine.com/great-news-california-no-longer-has-worst-credit-rating/1554/) has a lower bond rating than the state of California does.

18. Including unfunded pension liabilities, the state of California has more than twice as much debt (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/24/states-debt-combined-may-exceed-4-trillion_n_1029162.html) as any other state does.

19. Average pay for California state workers has risen by more than 100 percent (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-11/go-west-young-man-new-normal-dream-job-california-state-workers) since 2005. That is good news for those state employees, but it is bad news for the taxpayers that have to pay their salaries.

20. More than 5,000 California state troopers made more than $100,000 (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-11/-822-000-worker-shows-california-leads-u-s-pay-giveaway.html) last year.

21. One highway patrol officer ended up bringing home almost $484,000 (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-11/-822-000-worker-shows-california-leads-u-s-pay-giveaway.html) in 2011.

22. One state psychiatrist in California was paid $822,000 (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-11/-822-000-worker-shows-california-leads-u-s-pay-giveaway.html) in 2011.

23. Since 2007, the number of children living in poverty in the state of California has increased by 30 percent (http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Millions-More-California-Children-Slip-into-Poverty-134842133.html).

24. Sadly, an astounding 60 percent (http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/state&id=7996155) of all students attending California public schools now qualify for free or reduced-price school lunches.

25. The American Tort Reform Association has ranked the state of California as the worst "judicial hellhole" (http://californiacitynews.typepad.com/californiacitynewsorg/2010/12/california-ranked-2nd-worst-judicial-hellhole-by-tort-reform-group.html) in America.

26. Businesses all over the state of California are being absolutely suffocated to death by ridiculous regulations.

27. According to the Milken Institute, operating costs for California businesses are 23 percent higher (http://www.nctimes.com/top-ten-reasons-why-companies-are-leaving-california/article_be130984-2fe2-52f1-b49e-3cc2e28fbe70.html) than the national average.

28. According to CNN (http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/19/smallbusiness/small_business_state_failure_rates/index.htm), the state of California had the worst "small business failure rate" in America in 2010. It was 69 percent higher than the national average.

29. The number of people unemployed in the state of California is roughly equivalent to the populations of Nevada, New Hampshire and Vermont combined (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/california-is-broke-19-reasons-why-it-may-be-time-for-everyone-to-leave-the-state-of-california-for-good).

30. Residential customers in California pay about 29 percent more (http://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/) for electricity than the national average.

31. So many poor people and illegal aliens have taken advantage of the "free" healthcare at emergency rooms that many of them have been forced to shut down in California. As a result, the state of California now ranks dead last (http://www.businessinsider.com/why-california-is-the-next-greece-2010-05#california-has-americas-fewest-7-emergency-rooms-per-one-million-people-6) out of all 50 states in the number of emergency rooms per million people.

32. Political correctness is totally out of control in California.

33. One California town is actually considering making it illegal to smoke in your own backyard (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2106269/Rocklin-California-town-ban-smoking-ANYWHERE-outside-backyard.html).

34. The traffic around the big cities is horrific.

35. Los Angeles

36. San Francisco

37. Oakland

38. Stockton

39. Sacramento

40. The rampant gang activity in the state gets even worse with each passing year.

41. Crime continues to rise all over the state.

42. Just recently, the city attorney of San Bernardino, California told citizens to "lock their doors and load their guns (http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/11/30/city-attorney-tells-san-bernardino-residents-to-lock-their-doors-load-their-guns-because-of-police-downsizing/)" because there is not enough money to pay for adequate police protection any longer.

43. The murder rate in San Bernardino is up 50 percent (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/lock-your-doors-and-prepare-to-defend-your-family) this year.

44. In Oakland, burglaries are up 43 percent (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/11/28/phil-matier-oakland-crime-rate-worries-city-officials/) so far this year.

45. Today, Oakland is considered the 5th most violent city (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/22/most-dangerous-cities-in-_n_787010.html#s188480&title=5_Oakland_California) in the United States.

46. There have been more than 250 gold chain robberies (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/report-over-250-gold-robberies-in-stockton-since-april-police-taken-by-surprise_11202012) in Stockton, California just since the month of April.

47. In Stockton, the police budget cuts got so bad that the police union put up a billboard at one point with the following message (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/16-reasons-to-move-away-from-california): "Welcome to the 2nd most dangerous city in California. Stop laying off cops."

48. Jerry Brown.

49. The absolutely insane California state legislature.

50. Wildfires.

51. Mudslides.

52. The state of California lies directly along the infamous "Ring of Fire (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-ring-of-fire-is-roaring-to-life-and-there-will-be-earthquakes-of-historic-importance-on-the-west-coast-of-the-united-states)". Approximately 90 percent of all the earthquakes in the entire world happen along the Ring of Fire and the "Big One" could hit the state at any moment.

53. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, approximately 100,000 (http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Californias-Population-Moving-Out-182914961.html) more people moved out of the state of California in 2011 than moved into it.

54. During 2011, more than 58,000 people moved from California to the state of Texas (http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Californias-Population-Moving-Out-182914961.html).

55. Overall, the state of California has experienced a net loss of about four million residents (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304444604577340531861056966.html) to other states over the past 20 years."

mick silver
22nd December 2012, 01:58 PM
When Money Power Rules Business Thursday, December 20, 2012 – by Staff Report
http://www.thedailybell.com/images/library/smoothie.jpg


Starting a business: young entrepreneurs are vital to Britain's economy ... There's never been a better time to start a business, says Richard Reed, co-founder of Innocent Drinks, who also believes that young entrepreneurs are vital to our economy. – Richard Reed/UK Telegraph
Dominant Social Theme: It's not easy to found a business but you can do it.
Free-Market Analysis: Richard Reed is CEO of Innocent Drinks, a UK smoothie chain, and obviously he knows what he is talking about when it comes to businesses. Today Innocent Drinks has sales in excess of £100 million, 250 employees and offices across Europe.
The three founders of Innocent Drinks have also cashed out handsomely, as Coca Cola has bought a majority stake in the company for in excess of £65 million. The founders are said to retain operational control and the company remains a fast-growing young franchise.
Reed's personal success obviously influences how he looks at business. He firmly believes in entrepreneurship and the capacity for individuals to create new and successful ventures. Here's more from the article:
Every big business that you can think of started life with an entrepreneur's good idea. It is so important to encourage entrepreneurship because it has a direct and positive impact on society as a whole through the creation of new jobs, opportunities and wealth.
The reason why we should encourage young entrepreneurs in particular is that they have the best naturally occurring opportunity to start a business. They tend to have a lot less to risk than people who have had time to develop their career, put down roots and have people who depend on their income.
Business people tend to be at their most creative during their mid to late twenties, and because setting up a business is inherently a creative endeavour – from creating your philosophy to designing your product or service – the process suits the abilities of younger entrepreneurs.
While people with more experience in the workplace tend to spot opportunities in tangents of the work they do for a living, people with little or no experience of work concentrate more on "big picture", customer-facing ideas in sectors such as food, retail and manufacturing ...
Cheaper and more powerful communications, in the form of devices and software, as well as online services for funding your business, organising the way you work and sourcing suppliers, means there has never been a better time to start a business.
Reed also points out that banks "are lending again," and thus this is a good time for a startup. It is here we begin to depart from Reed's optimism. Banks may be lending again but this does not necessarily translate into a business opportunity.
In fact, Reed is likely wrong about the business cycle. This article bangs the drum generally for a "recovery" – though it is widely acknowledged that Britain remains mired in recession. Additionally, there are numerous factors that militate against a real recovery.
The biggest one is the monetary system itself – something Reed elaborately avoids discussing. Central banks seem to have dumped something like US$50 trillion into the larger marketplace via the commercial banks they use as their distribution arms.
But most of this money apparently has not yet been lent out. It has been used instead to run up securities markets, recreating bubbles that had collapsed in 2008. And now this money threatens to seep out into the larger economy.
When it does, it will push up prices. And price inflation will lead to higher interest rates. In the late 1970s, Paul Volcker had to yank rates all the way up to 20 percent to control US price inflation.
But how high will rates have to go this time if economies really begin to recover? We figure it may not even be feasible to wring out price inflation this time around. That's why we suggest another monetary system is going to take the place of this one ... one that may be global in nature.
From our point of view, the economic environment is being driven by a power elite that wants to create world government. Crashes and recoveries are manipulated with this goal in mind. And thus, from our point of view, entrepreneurs are a bit like bugs skating on the surface of a dark lake; the real action is taking place at a murky, deeper level.
Once upon a time, perhaps, entrepreneurs were the most important – vital – force in a capitalist economy. These days, however, it is the bankers who run the world, specifically those bankers who run the money production via central banking.
Reed may believe it is a good time to start a business but please note he and his partners are funded by Coca Cola which, as near as we can figure, is controlled by the same interests that control central banks.
The best that can be hoped for these days, maybe, is to create the kind of value that attracts the powers-that-be and opens up the spigot of significant investments. But within this context, one ends up supporting a system that is in many ways profoundly anti-entrepreneurial and anti-competitive. (Ironic, eh?)
Reed doesn't discuss this cognitive dissonance. In fact, as he is a drink-maker (albeit a rich one), it's in a sense beyond his pay grade. He'll go on making smoothies and hopefully he doesn't over-expand his company because the recovery he believes is on its way is almost certain to be derailed by high interest rates.
Conclusion: Opportunities may abound, as Reed maintains. But in this day and age – for the moment anyway – Money Power rules.

gunDriller
22nd December 2012, 06:16 PM
This can't be good..ouch...

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/55-reasons-why-california-is-the-worst-state-in-america

55 Reasons Why California Is The Worst State In America


California is basically run by Jews.

i figure that's part of the story.