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madfranks
25th December 2012, 05:39 AM
A refreshing alternate view of the future of gun control in the wake of Sandy Hook. I don't agree with his whole analysis, but it's good to read.

http://lewrockwell.com/north/north1237.html


Why the Gun Control Movement Is Doomed

by Gary North
GaryNorth.com

I have watched the gun control movement become a major voice against gun ownership over the last 40 years. What has most impressed me is this: this movement has been unsuccessful in disarming Americans. The demand for guns keeps rising.

I have known the leaders of the gun ownership movement. Larry Pratt is the head of the lobbying group, Gun Owners of America. He has held that position for as long as the organization has existed. It began in 1975. The founder of the organization, H. L. "Bill" Richardson, was a state senator in California. I do not recall when I first met him, but it was probably sometime around 1967. I met Pratt no later than 1969, and it may have been earlier. I have watched Gun Owners of America grow into a major sounding board for those who want to preserve Second Amendment freedoms. There are a number of lobbying organizations that promote gun ownership, but Gun Owners of America is generally regarded as hard-core. It does not recommend making political deals with those who would control legal access to firearms.

These mass murderers are almost always on prescription mood-altering drugs. The mainstream media rarely mention this. Every time that there is an incident where the latest drug-crazed shooter kills a number of people, there is a strong push by the gun control movement to get all guns banned. In contrast, every time some elderly lady shoots an intruder who had invaded her home, there is a brief story about this in the local newspaper. I have known for over 40 years that reporting in the major media is skewed in favor of the gun control movement.

In the years that I have known Richardson and Pratt, I have watched the gun control movement attempt to ban access to firearms, and in virtually all cases, it has failed. Guns are as plentiful today at gun shows as they were 40 years ago. We see billboards promoting gun shows in small towns across the South. I do not know if they have comparable sized shows outside of the South, but in the South, they are well attended.

There is more registration than was required 40 years ago, but there has been no concerted effort to move from gun registration to gun confiscation. With computerization, the possibility exists, but the manpower required to enforce such a ban of weapons would be astronomical.

ENFORCEMENT

Some laws are inherently unenforceable. We know that the laws are unenforceable among urban gang members. Gang members are among the best-armed civilians in the world. Gangs have more firepower than most local police departments. They do not use this firepower against what they would regard as the civilian population. They use the weapons against other gang members.

There is no way in the United States that the federal government could gain access to the weapons of the country without threatening extremely high fines or other penalties. It is unlikely that Congress will enact legislation that would authorize some system of draconian imposition of fines or jail sentences for violators.

The sheer volume of guns owned by Americans precludes the ability of the federal government to confiscate anything like 80% of the weapons. The kinds of people who own weapons are the kinds of people who resist bureaucratic intrusions into their lives. It is not like Americans in 1933, who surrendered gold coins in the darkest days of the Great Depression. They did not view gold coins as basic to their rights as citizens. They were incorrect in this regard, but there has never been the degree of commitment to the ownership of gold coins that there has been to the ownership of firearms.

Who would enforce the ban? I do not think that it will be local sheriffs. It may be local police departments, but local law enforcement agencies do not like to think of themselves as being unpaid enforcers of federal regulators. Cooperation will be limited, at best.

Any attempt by the federal government to enforce such a law will be met by foot-dragging. We will see lots of interest in ways of slowing down the bureaucratic machine. Paperwork, not armed resistance, is the weapon of choice in dealing with bureaucrats. The more paperwork that non-cooperative citizens can force the bureaucracy to go through, the less likely the bureaucracy is going to be able to implement its task of confiscating the guns of the United States. It is easy to jam the system, and with computers, it becomes even easier. I started writing about this over 25 years ago, when desktop computers were a novelty. I said that the microcomputer was the Saturday Night Special of resistance. Now the tablet has replaced it.

PARALYSIS AT THE TOP

I realize that a lot of Americans believe that the federal government is ready to take action against gun owners. Rhetoric aside, where is the evidence that the President is actively pursuing any such goal? I think the best indication of Obama's commitment to this is that he has put Joe Biden in charge of the whole operation. The Vice President has no power, and of recent Vice Presidents, Joe Biden is something of a laughingstock. He is no Dick Cheney.

Every time there is some major shooting, the media insist that legislation will soon be passed to outlaw assault rifles. It is conceivable that Congress will pass a ban on certain kinds of assault rifles, but that will have essentially zero affect in keeping assault rifles out of the hands of drug-crazed psychotics. There will be more shootings, and there will be more calls to ban more assault rifles, but the failure of the legislation to stop the shootings will testify against the effectiveness of further legislation.

The fact that no legislation has been introduced as a result of the Newtown, Connecticut shootings tells me that this lame-duck Congress is not interested in pursuing the matter. It has other fish to fry.

If the new House of Representatives is ready to cooperate with the Senate in passing legislation against assault rifles, then we may see such legislation. But what would motivate Republicans to cooperate? What is in it for them? Why would they want to face the wrath of their constituents in order to pass a piece of legislation previous Congresses have resisted for 40 years?

I do not believe that voters in favor of gun ownership should back off and let politicians have a free ride their attempts to restrict legal access to guns in the United States. I do not think it is wise to give a free ride to any political group that wants to interfere with constitutional liberties. I think people should support lobbying agencies that are in favor of gun ownership. Nevertheless, I do not think they should do this on the assumption that the end of gun ownership is imminent, because it isn't. I think they should do it on the assumption that the Constitution is on their side, and that the gun control movement is taking a stand against three centuries of American liberties.

The fact that the gun control movement has been politically impotent, or close to it, for a generation is not a good reason to sit back and let them browbeat squishy Congressman who were elected by voters who are in favor of gun ownership. If pro-Second Amendment voters remain silent, they will give an illusion to politicians that there will not be a backlash against anyone who breaks ranks and votes in favor gun control. We have to remind people in Congress that they can lose votes if they get wobbly on gun ownership. As Bill Richardson taught me over 40 years ago, politics is mostly about inflicting pain on politicians who deviate from a particular agenda. Politicians respond to pain, he taught me, and I watched him develop tactics that were specially designed to impose pain on those who favored gun control. He did this at the state level, and his organization has done it nationally

CONCLUSION

Within a decade, it will be possible for people to manufacture handguns inexpensively in their own homes. Even if it takes two decades, it is clear what is going to come. The ability of the government to confiscate handguns is surely limited when somebody can download a free piece of software that will enable him to manufacture a handgun, or the components of a handgun, in the privacy of his own home. The Left is now facing an ideological crisis. Either it bans 3D printers, raising civil rights issues, or else it must give up having any shot at banning guns.

The ability of the gun control crowd to control the spread of weapons across the face of the earth is going to decline dramatically over the next 10 years or 20 years. This is the last gasp of the entire movement. The 20th century will go down in history as the era of gun control. The 21st century is going to be knon as a century in which the common man, around the world, becomes a gun owner.

I think it is a good idea for people to purchase those items that they want to own, and which are legal for them to own. They tend to do this in times of panic, when prices have been bid up. But, in my view, it is better to buy an artificially or temporarily high-priced item than it is to wait. It is best to take action when you are motivated to take action. Otherwise, procrastination wins out again.

December 22, 2012

Gary North [send him mail] is the author of Mises on Money. Visit http://www.garynorth.com. He is also the author of a free 31-volume series, An Economic Commentary on the Bible.

mamboni
25th December 2012, 09:54 AM
I am posting from my new Android Nexus 10 which I received for Christmas from my family. I am more of a desktop guy and not sure I will use this fully. I might return it. What can I do with this thing besides surf the net, read stuff and listen to music?

chad
25th December 2012, 09:56 AM
give it a month. you'll never not have it on you.

Blink
25th December 2012, 10:20 AM
I am posting from my new Android Nexus 10 which I received for Christmas from my family. I am more of a desktop guy and not sure I will use this fully. I might return it. What can I do with this thing besides surf the net, read stuff and listen to music?


You've answered your own question. The toys are a useless distraction. Plus your always looking down instead of looking at what their spraying in the skies..........

Dogman
25th December 2012, 10:27 AM
I am posting from my new Android Nexus 10 which I received for Christmas from my family. I am more of a desktop guy and not sure I will use this fully. I might return it. What can I do with this thing besides surf the net, read stuff and listen to music? Just got one also, If you like the read there are good reading apps that you can use. I am moving away from my laptop/desktop because I just am not running many programs anymore that need the horsepower they have. It saves the wear and tear on them when I really do not need much other than keeping up with mail/chatting and reading and posting on forums.

Tablets are easy to carry around, just put it into your pocket! Anymore lugging a laptop around is becoming a major pain in the butt for me.

I have both of mine setup so they are also phones using the magic jack app and my account. Everything I do on them syncs to all my other devices. As you said E-mail, I am posting this right now on my Nexus 7 using a Bluetooth keyboard out in my carport watching it rain and the cold front move through.

Also you can turn it into a GPS voice guided map navigator, I am finding they are just handy to have/use. And finding new uses for them almost everyday.

But, to each their own!

Edit: I see you have the 10" and that imho is too large to tote around without a mini tablet bag.

Libertytree
25th December 2012, 10:30 AM
You've answered your own question. The toys are a useless distraction. Plus your always looking down instead of looking at what their spraying in the skies..........

It's funny but true. Yesterday I drove past a few people who were seperately walking down the sidewalk, each one had a phone in their hand, looking down at it. I swear if there had been a hole there that would have fell into it, I just had to chuckle.

Shami-Amourae
25th December 2012, 11:26 AM
I make video games for a living and I still don't own a smart phone. Won't touch 'em.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GjVAPVX2_s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw7FmlSSvwc

mamboni
25th December 2012, 11:30 AM
Just got one also, If you like the read there are good reading apps that you can use. I am moving away from my laptop/desktop because I just am not running many programs anymore that need the horsepower they have. It saves the wear and tear on them when I really do not need much other than keeping up with mail/chatting and reading and posting on forums.

Tablets are easy to carry around, just put it into your pocket! Anymore lugging a laptop around is becoming a major pain in the butt for me.

I have both of mine setup so they are also phones using the magic jack app and my account. Everything I do on them syncs to all my other devices. As you said E-mail, I am posting this right now on my Nexus 7 using a Bluetooth keyboard out in my carport watching it rain and the cold front move through.

Also you can turn it into a GPS voice guided map navigator, I am finding they are just handy to have/use. And finding new uses for them almost everyday.

But, to each their own!

Edit: I see you have the 10" and that imho is too large to tote around without a mini tablet bag.

You been talkin' to my kids? They got me the bag too!

Dogman
25th December 2012, 11:39 AM
You been talkin' to my kids? They got me the bag too! While you are at it, look for a cover if you do not have one yet! The good covers have magnets in them that put the unit to sleep when you close it!

As far as privacy and syncing my devices, most is done over my local WiFi network and does not get on the internet. But what does go out is encrypted, and none of the stuff that goes out is sensitive.

I really do see tablets as the coming thing, because they are not the pain in the ass, laptops are when out and about! They are evolving. The nexus's can even multitask.

hoarder
25th December 2012, 11:51 AM
Mamboni, if you took your car to the dealer for the 50,000 mile service, then got it back to find that the brake pedal was on the right, gas pedal on the left and you had to turn the steering wheel clockwise for a left turn and vice-versa, you would be pissed. Then the dealer tells you that they had to "upgrade" it that way because all the new ones work that way, you accept it as progress that you must adjust to.

The moral of the story is this:
All other things being equal, if a new device or program operates differently than the old one, it is MUCH WORSE than the old one.

I would return it.

gunDriller
25th December 2012, 01:01 PM
I am posting from my new Android Nexus 10 which I received for Christmas from my family. I am more of a desktop guy and not sure I will use this fully. I might return it. What can I do with this thing besides surf the net, read stuff and listen to music?

you can be at the beach, check the Gold & Silver price, decide to buy, and transact a purchase. all while getting a tan or staring at, well, sights like this -
http://lars.toomre.com/sites/lars/files/pictures/blonde-blue-thong-bikini-image2_0.jpg?1283617968

but i would be careful about how you pay for the transaction.

if you pay by check, then all someone can get is your email & password. if you pay by credit card, a skilled phone/ computer hacker can intercept your work session and make off with your credit card info.

madfranks
25th December 2012, 01:22 PM
Wow what a derail. Anyone care to address the thread topic?

mamboni
25th December 2012, 01:44 PM
Wow what a derail. Anyone care to address the thread topic?

Sorry MadFranks - my bad.

I think North makes excellent points. He thinks gun confiscation or meaningful beefing up of gun control laws is a non-starter and I think he's right. America is largely divided between two camps vis-a-vis gun ownership: those who own are de facto 2nd amendment believers; those who don't are either undecided, oblivious or have already drank the anti-gun koolaid and don't think past "let the government ban all guns and problem solved." The latter are hopelessy brainwashed and cannot be turned. Save your persuasive energies for the first two groups of not-yet-gun-owners - we must bring them into the gun rights fold in order to safeguard the second amendment.