Recognizing the mindfuck

[midnight rambler]

GSUSers are pretty much tuned into everyone as a whole being subject to 'perception management' - what I refer to as 'the mindfuck'. A perfect example we can all see is the incident at Sandy Hook.

With the Sandy Hook incident we have virtually NO evidence whatsoever to go on, only what we're told "from this official microphone", a couple of low res videos (apparently) shot from a nooz helicopter and handful of still images shot from an aerial platform - NOTHING else. Only the 'picture' which is painted for us by 'the official narrative', i.e. we are left to *construct* an image of the scene within our MINDS - based solely upon NO eyewitnesses(!) (as in no personal first hand accounts or sworn testimony), only from those speaking into 'this official microphone'. This is the setup of the mindfuck.

Well, this particular mindfuck persists in promulgating throughout our culture, our 'reality'. I was catching a lil' bit of The Walking Dead on AMC last nite (I have an interest in observing what they're bombarding us with) and low and behold, what did I see as an advisory to watching this extremely violent teevee show? It was a warning that due to "the tragedy in Connecticut that the show The Walking Dead (*)may(*) (my emphasis) contain violent scenes which would cause someone distress (or some such nonsense) - viewer discretion advised" Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot. As if. Super mindfuck there.

Now I'm seeing what's been developing as another mindfuck centering on Queen Jezebel aka Hiltlary, and her 'concussion'. The picture 'they' are painting for us for the 'construct' in our minds is that of Queen Jezebel having a severe case of diarrahea which disabled her to the point of fainting/falling down and suffering a concussion (reminds me of GeeDub's bruised faced [most likely from Big Dick 'persuading' him] from "falling off a sofa(!) [onto a carpeted floor...REALLY?? ???] after choking on a pretzel" - can't they come up with any new material?? lol). Of course we're all supposed to buy this since it comes from 'this official microphone'*. Now I've noted from at least two sources, one of them being a NBC reporter, that Queen Jezebel's injuries stem from a plane crash (possibly just inside Iran?). My thoughts: perception management to keep us from seeing that Queen Jezebel is now 'damaged goods' and that would lessen her chances at ascending the throne and becoming the next organ grinder's trained pet monkey in the WH.

*this comes to mind: "Do not believe them, do not fear them, do not ask anything of them." --Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

*They are also working from Dr. K's playbook: "It's not a matter of what is true (reality) that counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true (reality)." --Henry Kissinger

[sunshine05]

That's funny. I was thinking the same thing this morning about Hillary, wondering it any of the illness was true at all.

The more I look at this (Sandy Hook), the more clear everything is becoming. I'm going to write some blog articles about Sandy Hook and how I believe this all works. There are lots of charities involved and I don't trust most of them anyhow but really don't trust these ones. I believe that is a way they get a lot of people to go along with this. They are getting money for their "social programs", millions of dollars. People are getting rich through this fake tragedy.

9/11 was the same, lots of charities behind the "vicsims".


Here's one of them, note the upcoming speaker (Madeleine Albright). The "Grace McDonnell memorial fund" is being handled by this outfit, and this is just one. Read through what they do. The chairman of the board has received awards for violence prevention against youths, something like that.

http://www.fccfoundation.org/cm/Home.html

[midnight rambler]

Before it disappears down the memory hole:

NBC News’ chief science correspondent Robert Bazell on Monday speculated that federal officials may not be telling the whole story regarding Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s recent hospitalization for a blood clot. Clinton was reportedly admitted to a New York hospital on Sunday after the discovery of a blood clot resulting from a concussion she sustained earlier this month.
(Scroll down for update)
“We really don’t know a lot about what’s going on here,” Bazell said, adding that the hospital “is not saying much.” So far, Clinton’s office has only said she is being treated with blood thinners for the blood clot. But something about that explanation didn’t sit right with the NBC reporter.
“The problem is that concussions, when they lead to blood clots — the blood clots are not usually treated with blood thinners, as they say she’s being treated,” he explained. “If she has a blood clot that occurred because she was sitting around or something, they would treat that with blood thinners, and that would be fine. But there may be more to this story that we don’t know.”
Bazell said more information should be released over the next few days. He did not speculate any further.
Watch the video via NBC/Mediaite (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nbc-reporter-on-hillary-clintons-hospitalization-there-may-be-more-to-this-story-that-we-dont-know/) below:

State Department spokesman Pillippe Reines said in a statement that Clinton is “being treated with anticoagulants and is at New York-Presbyterian Hospital so that they can monitor the medication over the next 48 hours.”

“Her doctors will continue to assess her condition, including other issues associated with her concussion. They will determine if any further action is required,” he wrote.
CBS New York’s Dr. Max Gomez (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/31/hillary-clinton-remains-hospitalized-for-blood-clot-new-years-eve/) discussed the possible scenarios Clinton is facing.
“There are two main possibilities here. One is that she developed blood clots in her legs as a result of being on bed rest after her concussion, those would commonly be treated with anti-coagulants…A second possibility is that she developed something called a subdural hematoma, which means as a result of the blow on her head, she broke a small blood vessel on the surface of her brain, and it has been slowly leaking blood, which accumulates and forms a blood clot.”

Meanwhile, Clinton’s illness has continued to fuel conspiracy theories (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/hillary-clintons-illness-prompts-conspiracy-theories_692441.html), some involve a traumatic “brain crisis” others involve a plane crash. And the continued absence of Clinton has people speculating whether it will keep her from testifying on Benghazi before she steps down.
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Update: Doctors say they have located the blood clot in Clinton’s head and are treating her with blood thinners. For the full update, click here (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/doctors-blood-clot-located-in-hillary-clintons-head-confident-she-will-make-full-recovery/).

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/why-does-this-nbc-reporter-think-there-may-be-more-to-hillary-clintons-hospitalization/

[midnight rambler]

I'm thinking that after each successful major incident the key players involved all get together for a skull session and refine their techniques. Of course this would include how to increase their net profits.

[JohnQPublic]

...There are lots of charities involved and I don't trust most of them anyhow but really don't trust these ones. I believe that is a way they get a lot of people to go along with this. They are getting money for their "social programs", millions of dollars. People are getting rich through this fake tragedy.

9/11 was the same, lots of charities behind the "vicsims".


Here's one of them, note the upcoming speaker (Madeleine Albright). The "Grace McDonnell memorial fund" is being handled by this outfit, and this is just one. Read through what they do. The chairman of the board has received awards for violence prevention against youths, something like that.

http://www.fccfoundation.org/cm/Home.html

These are not charities. These are the organs of TPTB. These are trusts of past criminals and traitors (in many, but not necassarily all cases, some may be criminal offspring), who continue to operate after the death of the originator. It is these trusts and networks that Obama's mom, and Timmy Geitner's family were operating from (Ford Foundation- though I suspect Henry Ford himself may not have been an ok human being, but his foundation took off with its own agenda). I suspect that many of the actors also must come through these channels. As the offspring sucking from the teets of the foundations increase, bigger acts are required to satisfy their voracious, greedy appetites. There is likely a revolving door between the foundations/trusts and various security apparatus.

[JohnQPublic]

Before it disappears down the memory hole:

NBC News’ chief science correspondent Robert Bazell on Monday speculated that federal officials may not be telling the whole story regarding Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s recent hospitalization for a blood clot. Clinton was reportedly admitted to a New York hospital on Sunday after the discovery of a blood clot resulting from a concussion she sustained earlier this month.
(Scroll down for update)
“We really don’t know a lot about what’s going on here,” Bazell said, adding that the hospital “is not saying much.” So far, Clinton’s office has only said she is being treated with blood thinners for the blood clot. But something about that explanation didn’t sit right with the NBC reporter.
“The problem is that concussions, when they lead to blood clots — the blood clots are not usually treated with blood thinners, as they say she’s being treated,” he explained. “If she has a blood clot that occurred because she was sitting around or something, they would treat that with blood thinners, and that would be fine. But there may be more to this story that we don’t know.”
Bazell said more information should be released over the next few days. He did not speculate any further.
Watch the video via NBC/Mediaite (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nbc-reporter-on-hillary-clintons-hospitalization-there-may-be-more-to-this-story-that-we-dont-know/) below:

State Department spokesman Pillippe Reines said in a statement that Clinton is “being treated with anticoagulants and is at New York-Presbyterian Hospital so that they can monitor the medication over the next 48 hours.”

“Her doctors will continue to assess her condition, including other issues associated with her concussion. They will determine if any further action is required,” he wrote.
CBS New York’s Dr. Max Gomez (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/31/hillary-clinton-remains-hospitalized-for-blood-clot-new-years-eve/) discussed the possible scenarios Clinton is facing.
“There are two main possibilities here. One is that she developed blood clots in her legs as a result of being on bed rest after her concussion, those would commonly be treated with anti-coagulants…A second possibility is that she developed something called a subdural hematoma, which means as a result of the blow on her head, she broke a small blood vessel on the surface of her brain, and it has been slowly leaking blood, which accumulates and forms a blood clot.”

Meanwhile, Clinton’s illness has continued to fuel conspiracy theories (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/hillary-clintons-illness-prompts-conspiracy-theories_692441.html), some involve a traumatic “brain crisis” others involve a plane crash. And the continued absence of Clinton has people speculating whether it will keep her from testifying on Benghazi before she steps down.
–
Update: Doctors say they have located the blood clot in Clinton’s head and are treating her with blood thinners. For the full update, click here (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/doctors-blood-clot-located-in-hillary-clintons-head-confident-she-will-make-full-recovery/).

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/why-does-this-nbc-reporter-think-there-may-be-more-to-hillary-clintons-hospitalization/

Have any nurses been found dead yet?

[midnight rambler]

no personal first hand accounts or sworn testimony

I admit be off a little bit on this as the M$M did interview the school nurse and some children (can't depend on a 6 y.o.'s view), but my point is that we really have no substantive eyewitness that are front and center giving accurate, reliable testimony of the actual event. (it should be noted that there are conflicting accounts originating from the school nurse)

[joboo]

The sad part is you can't recognize the mindfuck without fucking up your mind.

[midnight rambler]

Sayeth the mindfucker to his intended mindfuck targets. lol

[joboo]

Sayeth the mindfucker to the mindfuckees. lol

I just ask questions, and make people think about life before the never ending descent into the rabbit hole.

(That's a good thing btw.)

If thinking makes you angry, and act in a racist manner, maybe it's time for more self reflection.

[hoarder]

The sad part is you can't recognize the mindfuck without fucking up your mind.jewboy says don't risk fucking up your mind by attempting to understand how his tribe fucks with your mind.

[joboo]

see ^^

[midnight rambler]

jewboy says don't risk fucking up your mind by attempting to understand how his tribe fucks with your mind.

+1 qft

[Libertytree]

The bottom line is we can't believe one word that they ever speak, sure it might be mixed with partial truth but partial truth is just a varying degree of the lie. Therefor, every word and sentence must be considered false, their track record speaks for itself.

[gunDriller]

I'm thinking that after each successful major incident the key players involved all get together for a skull session and refine their techniques. Of course this would include how to increase their net profits.

i looked at the DHS website.

DHS canine handlers make $75K to $100K a year.

there's definitely some disaster capitalism at work.


as far as the Newtown shooting, my perception is that it really happened. the funerals for the allegedly dead children ... those are hard to fake. when they did the "deceased ID", the parents would have been shown their children's body with - they tell us - 2 or more bullet holes.

i wonder if Adam Lanza's freak-out was facilitated. in order for that to be the case, he would have had to make it onto TPTB radar through deranged Facebook postings etc.

[palani]

I recall hearing about Hitlery bouncing a shoe off a secret service man's bean when he opened a door at the wrong time and found her in bed with her girlfriend. He probably had a better chance of complaining of concussion than she does.

As far as the cause .... well Bill can get moody occasionally after years of having his nose shoved into his messes. I figure he decked her.

[joboo]

+1 qft

I know you hate all jews regardless of anything. You're a broad stroke racist that probably (definitely) hates all blacks, and mexicans as well.

Tell us something everyone already doesn't know.

Now where's the on switch for your head?

What happened to it?

You guys are so paranoid it's hilarious.

[midnight rambler]

I admit be off a little bit on this as the M$M did interview the school nurse and some children (can't depend on a 6 y.o.'s view), but my point is that we really have no substantive eyewitness that are front and center giving accurate, reliable testimony of the actual event. (it should be noted that there are conflicting accounts originating from the school nurse)

I've done a quick search of jootube (the first 80 videos under search term 'Sandy Hook eyewitness') and I'm unable to find any adults being interviewed by the M$M (or anyone else) who actually saw the shooter(s).

[midnight rambler]

I recall hearing about Hitlery bouncing a shoe off a secret service man's bean when he opened a door at the wrong time and found her in bed with her girlfriend. He probably had a better chance of complaining of concussion than she does.

As far as the cause .... well Bill can get moody occasionally after years of having his nose shoved into his messes. I figure he decked her.

There's also a credible report that she once threw a lamp at a SS agent.

[sunshine05]

i looked at the DHS website.

DHS canine handlers make $75K to $100K a year.

there's definitely some disaster capitalism at work.


as far as the Newtown shooting, my perception is that it really happened. the funerals for the allegedly dead children ... those are hard to fake. when they did the "deceased ID", the parents would have been shown their children's body with - they tell us - 2 or more bullet holes.

i wonder if Adam Lanza's freak-out was facilitated. in order for that to be the case, he would have had to make it onto TPTB radar through deranged Facebook postings etc.

I don't think it would be hard to fake a funeral. Closed casket, funeral staff and church leaders wouldn't even have to know that it's all staged. Get a group of actors for the funeral and that's it.

[midnight rambler]

I don't think it would be hard to fake a funeral. Closed casket, funeral staff and church leaders wouldn't even have to know that it's all staged. Get a group of actors for the funeral and that's it.

We don't know what we don't know.

[joboo]

I know you hate all jews regardless of anything. You're a broad stroke racist that probably (definitely) hates all blacks, and mexicans as well.

Tell us something everyone already doesn't know.

Now where's the on switch for your head?

What happened to it?

You guys are so paranoid it's hilarious.

You won't get a credible answer to this.

Some people think being a bigot somehow gives you credibility in life, when in reality the world laughs at them.

Great way to sabotage the truth movement you fucking loons.

4250

[madfranks]

Excellent analysis, midnight. I would add that the official bin laden-is-dead narrative fits perfectly with your thesis.

[midnight rambler]

Excellent analysis, midnight. I would add that the official bin laden-is-dead narrative fits perfectly with your thesis.

Of course it does. The media plays it as 'the *capture* of bin Laden'. lol

When I traveled in cop circles, a cop buddy pointed out to me: "cops are trained to capture*, soldiers are trained to kill."

*not any more, that was 25 years ago, the old school approach

[gunDriller]

The bottom line is we can't believe one word that they ever speak, sure it might be mixed with partial truth but partial truth is just a varying degree of the lie. Therefor, every word and sentence must be considered false, their track record speaks for itself.

plus there's always the consideration that dealing with them wastes your time - precious time.

why give the J-whiner's & their mind-fucks a chance to waste your time ?

[Libertytree]

Excellent analysis, midnight. I would add that the official bin laden-is-dead narrative fits perfectly with your thesis.

Hell, every "narrative" for that matter! When the trust is lost then everything must be considered false, a lie, bullshit...meant to bring about a desired perception that assists them in carrying out their agenda.

[midnight rambler]

plus there's always the consideration that dealing with them wastes your time - precious time.



Isn't that the point?

[Libertytree]

Time is nothing..it's what is accomplished in their timeframe with those minds that matters.

[joboo]

plus there's always the consideration that dealing with them wastes your time - precious time.

why give the J-whiner's & their mind-fucks a chance to waste your time ?

Because anyone could easily point out that some people involved in the truth movement who label an entire group of people without hesitation are batshit crazy.

...and they would be right, because it ultimately discredits the entire truth movement.

[palani]

If they can convince you that 1960s technology was capable of moon travel then convincing you of anything else must seem trivial.

[Santa]

Trying to fit this into a big picture... the entire population is undergoing an ongoing psychological operation through the Media.

[midnight rambler]

Trying to fit this into a big picture... the entire population is undergoing an ongoing psychological operation through the Media.

I really don't see how anyone can doubt that it's a concerted effort and has been for decades, but it seems to me that they are getting really good at it.

[Santa]

These fuckers have been running Game Theory logarithms for the past 50 years on the most powerful computers on earth. They don't intend to lose.

[midnight rambler]

Ok, so I dig a lil' deeper into the alleged plane crash Hitlary was supposedly involved in and find that it's the always highly suspect EU Times. Furthermore the EU Times states that a C-12 Huron aircraft was involved. I see two problems with this story now considering the C-12 Huron is the military designation for the Beechcraft (Raytheon) King Air - first of all that arrogant, egocentric Queen Jezebel considers herself too high and mighty to be caught dead using a turboprop twin with a service ceiling of a mere 32,800 ft. and cruise speed half that of a jet, she surely deserves better (in her mind), only the best for her; secondly, and to me this is key, King Air aircraft are some of safest, more reliable aircraft anywhere with an excellent track record therefore it's very doubtful that a AF pilot crashed a very well maintained C-12 Huron/King Air.

While there's something odd going on with the Queen Jezebel story, I doubt that it has anything to do with a plane crash reported in EU Times.

Here's an extreme case (which is very rare with the King Air) demonstrating the reliability and survivability of the King Air (safely landed with no elevators and bent wings) -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWuPmGPBW8o

[Libertytree]

These fuckers have been running Game Theory logarithms for the past 50 years on the most powerful computers on earth. They don't intend to lose.

No one intends to lose but there is inevitably always a loser...and sometimes it's not who ya think it might be.

[joboo]

These fuckers have been running Game Theory logarithms for the past 50 years on the most powerful computers on earth. They don't intend to lose.

This is why people need to get smarter about the approach.

Look at David Duke. Perfect example.

He ultimately fucked himself through his own blanket hate rhetoric, and despite how much good, and accurate information he puts out, he'll never shake his past.

Ron Paul was also taken to town over that publication.

People need to learn from these living examples, and WTFU.


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The funny part is I try to educate people here on this by actually thinking about it, and they slap the label on me, dive right back into the steaming pile, and revel in it.

I question the sanity of this place sometimes. It's absolutely necessary, and I'm taking the hit for it.

[Santa]

Stay on topic, Joboo. This isn't about you.

[PlatinumBlonde]

These fuckers have been running Game Theory logarithms for the past 50 years on the most powerful computers on earth. They don't intend to lose.

Paging Boris Berezovsky...(Russian oligarch rumored to have gamed 911)

[midnight rambler]

No one intends to lose but there is inevitably always a loser...and sometimes it's not who ya think it might be.

It's a spiritual battle, makes no difference how 'super' the competition's computers are.

[joboo]

Stay on topic, Joboo. This isn't about you.

That's the reality whether you like it or not.

You can be a dick about it, but the truth is the truth. Learn to recognize it for what it is.

Anyone that supports blanket racism, and sings a song about "truth", is the real disinfo agent. Speaking of mindfucks.

These goofballs work for the ADL.

Wake up already.

[Santa]

It's a spiritual battle, makes no difference how 'super' the competition's computers are.

HALLELUIAH, Brother... (Santa does a little foot dance.)

We may not have money or power, but we do have SOUL.

[joboo]

High five the promoter of bigotry. Cheer on your own destruction.

[Norweger]

Speaking of Rabbi Duke.. I have always felt a stench of kosher coming from that guy.

David Duke in 1992: “I don’t admire anything about Hitler, I think he was a disaster for Jewish people and all of European Civilization”

http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/10/07/david-duke-in-1992/

[Hatha Sunahara]

I think Hillary's game is to keep mum about Benghazi until she's out of her office. Whatever happened in Benghazi, she doesn't want to talk about it. It might compromise the results they expect in Syria. It could be a clean-up operation to get rid of the guy who knew too much. She could be protecting her Israeli friends. I seriously doubt that any medical treatments are really being done on her. She's playing hookey.

Hatha

[joboo]

Speaking of Rabbi Duke.. I have always felt a stench of kosher coming from that guy.

David Duke in 1992: “I don’t admire anything about Hitler, I think he was a disaster for Jewish people and all of European Civilization”

http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/10/07/david-duke-in-1992/

That was duke trying to dig himself out of the pit of bigotry he dug for himself.

ZCF might as well be run by the ADL, or mossad.

The owner thinks he gets it, but ultimately does not. All he does at the end of the day is spew hate rhetoric, which is then immediately harvested by the ADL as ammunition. Those organizations need sites like that. They love em like bread, and butter.

Whether the guy is right or wrong it doesn't matter. The way he goes about it totally discredits everything he is trying to achieve. That level of approach will never gain any traction in the world. It never has, and history speaks the truth on that issue.

I question sites like that as ADL or mossad fronts. Leading the opposition while lining the pockets of the ADL, and the like.

[midnight rambler]

joobot persists in trying to derail the thread to suit his own agenda*, don't fall for it.

*that agenda should be clear to everyone by now

[joboo]

joobot persists in trying to derail the thread to suit his own agenda*, don't fall for it.

*that agenda should be clear to everyone by now

Says those who routinely empower organizations like the ADL. Stupid is as stupid does.

You sir are a disinfo agent who pretends to espouse the "truth" in one hand while spewing hate with the other.

Time to wake up, and grab a few IQ points.

You sir discredit the truth movement with your pro hate bs. Go back to the ADL, and resume counting your shekels.

A thread on recognizing the mindfuck indeed.

[gunDriller]

Ok, so I dig a lil' deeper into the alleged plane crash Hitlary was supposedly involved in and find that it's the always highly suspect EU Times. Furthermore the EU Times states that a C-12 Huron aircraft was involved. I see two problems with this story now considering the C-12 Huron is the military designation for the Beechcraft (Raytheon) King Air - first of all that arrogant, egocentric Queen Jezebel considers herself too high and mighty to be caught dead using a turboprop twin with a service ceiling of a mere 32,800 ft. and cruise speed half that of a jet, she surely deserves better (in her mind), only the best for her; secondly, and to me this is key, King Air aircraft are some of safest, more reliable aircraft anywhere with an excellent track record therefore it's very doubtful that a AF pilot crashed a very well maintained C-12 Huron/King Air.


maybe Bill sent her flowers, and she wanted to get home for some of that conjugal action. give the bed springs a work-out, that sort of thing.

i think even with her High & Mighty attitude, as a Secretary of State she cranks up loads of Frequent Flier miles. i doubt the flight schedule for her preferred flight always works out for her. the military turbo-prop may well have been the fastest way home/ most expedient way home.

plus she can use flight time on a military transport to do some fraternizing with the military. whether it's joining the mile-high club with some general, or just confab-ing about their dedication to Fight the Royal Terror War.


Michelle Obama certainly acts like she's entitled, judging by the cost of some of her vacations.

[vacuum]

I think Hillary's game is to keep mum about Benghazi until she's out of her office. Whatever happened in Benghazi, she doesn't want to talk about it. It might compromise the results they expect in Syria. It could be a clean-up operation to get rid of the guy who knew too much. She could be protecting her Israeli friends. I seriously doubt that any medical treatments are really being done on her. She's playing hookey.

Hatha

This seems to be the most credible explanation at this point.

[vacuum]

Hell, every "narrative" for that matter! When the trust is lost then everything must be considered false, a lie, bullshit...meant to bring about a desired perception that assists them in carrying out their agenda.

This is getting close to a very important point which is relevant to both the OP as well as the side-discussion going on here.

The concept of 'paranoia', considering everything false, etc, eventually leads to a certain method of reasoning if studied enough. The key thing to realize is that consciously, we should let nothing be taken for granted as being known to be true or false. Everything should be questioned.

The best strategy is to take everything as true (from all sources) and build out independent probable scenarios (hypotheses) which grow over time as more information is gained. Once we're able to accept the idea of allowing contradictory theories coexist peacefully within our brains, then we can make decisions based on the most probable likelihood at the time a decision is needed. This is abductive reasoning. Here's an excerpt from wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abductive_reasoning):


Logic-based abduction

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This robust abductive reasoning will help overcome many fallacies and lies. Instead of being too heavily invested in an outlook or idea, you can dynamically make decisions based on a pool of hypotheses, instead of having to necessarily prove or disprove certain hypotheses before moving on to something else. Not only will this method allow us to discover the truth, but it will make communication with others more tolerant, flexible, and efficient in my view.

[Twisted Titan]

Look at David Duke. Perfect example.

He ultimately fucked himself through his own blanket hate rhetoric, and despite how much good, and accurate information he puts out, he'll never shake his past.

Ron Paul was also taken to town over that publication.

People need to learn from these living examples, and WTFU.





Hold on.............I just want to be clear.

So because of Dukes past......his information is some how not credible??

This man can actually cite where his information comes from and the overwhelming majority of comes from the zionists mouths VERBATIM.


If that is meter by which you choose to judge do tell me where would a ehud olmert, netenyahu or Abe foxman be able to stand based on their well documented pasts full of skulldugery???


I eagerly await your response.

[Norweger]

Due to his masonic KKK past and other things it is easy to discredit him and make him look like a fool. It's just the kind of opposition the media wants, because nobody will rally around such a person.

Never heard him say much about 911 either.. when i google i only find some diffuse articles which claims it happened because of "us foreign policy" which is in itself true, but not meant as in american jews comitted the acts with their media monopoly and with the help of mossad in order to rally the western military machine so that it can serve as a protector of the jewish state, but rather, the arabs attacked the wtc because they got pissed on the USA because of their foreign policy... which of course every informed individual knows to be false.

[Twisted Titan]

If I had to take a guess

If DD was to extensively reasearch 911 like he does the zionist agenda

I think he will get "Bill Coopered" post haste.


But I cant even totally commit to that because once you make it your business to connect the dots as to how The Tribe works You take your life and the lives of those nearest to you in your hands.

[joboo]

Hold on.............I just want to be clear.

So because of Dukes past......his information is some how not credible??

This man can actually cite where his information comes from and the overwhelming majority of comes from the zionists mouths VERBATIM.

If that is meter by which you choose to judge do tell me where would a ehud olmert, netenyahu or Abe foxman be able to stand based on their well documented pasts full of skulldugery???


I eagerly await your response.

Let's analyze what I said:

"Look at David Duke. Perfect example.

He ultimately fucked himself through his own blanket hate rhetoric, and despite how much good, and accurate information he puts out, he'll never shake his past."

Is that not exactly the case? The guy got caught up in the bigotry perspective with the KKK thing, and it has destroyed his credibility despite his best efforts after the fact.

The guy is now labeled for life. This is how history treats people who act like this, and it always has, and there's a good reason for that.

Duke has since dropped the bigotry angle, and is now focusing on the political perspectives, and it has gained him some credibility since, but he will always be viewed in reduced capacity due to his actions earlier in life.

Anyone on that pretends to tell you they are purveyors of truth but espouse hate speech rhetoric in the next breath is a disinfo agent. They are poison in the well. A metastasized cancer to any aspects of legitimate truth.

Same with anyone on any side doing the same. Anyone spouting joo this, and jewboy that, or goyim this and that, goyim are made to serve, jews are the master race etc.. are losers.

They are losers in life, and stuck in the paradigm of being a small minded idiot.

History will show you this, and prove the same thing over and over again.

Learn to spot these disinfo agents, distance yourself from them, and call them out for what they are.

Nothing good will come from them.

[vacuum]

Let's analyze what I said:

"Look at David Duke. Perfect example.

He ultimately fucked himself through his own blanket hate rhetoric, and despite how much good, and accurate information he puts out, he'll never shake his past."

Is that not exactly the case? The guy got caught up in the bigotry perspective with the KKK thing, and it has destroyed his credibility despite his best efforts after the fact.

The guy is now labeled for life. This is how history treats people who act like this, and it always has, and there's a good reason for that.

Duke has since dropped the bigotry angle, and is now focusing on the political perspectives, and it has gained him some credibility since, but he will always be viewed in reduced capacity due to his actions earlier in life.

Anyone on that pretends to tell you they are purveyors of truth but espouse hate speech rhetoric in the next breath is a disinfo agent. They are poison in the well. A metastasized cancer to any aspects of legitimate truth.

Same with anyone on any side doing the same. Anyone spouting joo this, and jewboy that, or goyim this and that, goyim are made to serve, jews are the master race etc.. are losers.

They are losers in life, and stuck in the paradigm of being a small minded idiot.

History will show you this, and prove the same thing over and over again.

Learn to spot these disinfo agents, distance yourself from them, and call them out for what they are.

Nothing good will come from them.
I'd take a step back and try to generalize some aspects of the situation.

Racism is but one potential aspect of bigotry. The key here is bigotry, which is defined as "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices". A racist or any other bigot is not really a disinfo agent, but rather or of a: robot, tool, automation, drone, etc. Basically, bigots are actually somewhat closer to machines than actual human beings (what human beings are supposed to be).

Bigotry is the one area where each an every one of us should focus on. We can all be self-admittedly biased, unreasonable, illogical, emotional, unintelligent, etc. But we are still redeemable if we are able to tolerate others and honestly listen to their opinions (even if they come across in a distorted manner due to the above mentioned flaws). So it's not about racism, but about being able to tolerate, interact with, and learn from others and our surroundings on a continual basis. This is a personal thing and you can't necessarily determine how someone else is operating.

Humans develop from children to adults physically without any effort on their part. Nature just does that for us. However, it does not take us beyond the point of being reactionary robots. Personal development is required to actually be able to interact instead of react (like an animal). When we give others the idea that we're a bigot, we make them think we never achieved that extra level of development and hence lose credibility of possible meaningful communication. The older we are when this happens the worse it is, because as we get older we become more set in our ways.

So it's easy to take a specific person and a specific example and say that behavior is bad. For self-evident examples, a large group of people will agree. However, people may have different views on one specific example, and may have their own differing examples of what's bad and what's good. This view of good and bad and what should be done eventually leads to politics. However the key takeaway is not politics, but rather modifying one's own behavior to be able to engage in meaningful communication with those who disagree with us (and actually more importantly, honest communication with ourselves, where we do most of our lying). We all think we can already do this, when in reality the first bigoted belief is usually that one isn't bigoted. In other words, it's not trivial to even know if one is bigoted or not, much less actually not be bigoted.

Note: racism might not always be bigotry, depending on semantics. Just using it as an example.

[Twisted Titan]

Let's analyze what I said:

"Look at David Duke. Perfect example.

He ultimately fucked himself through his own blanket hate rhetoric, and despite how much good, and accurate information he puts out, he'll never shake his past."

Is that not exactly the case? The guy got caught up in the bigotry perspective with the KKK thing, and it has destroyed his credibility despite his best efforts after the fact.

The guy is now labeled for life. This is how history treats people who act like this, and it always has, and there's a good reason for that.

Duke has since dropped the bigotry angle, and is now focusing on the political perspectives, and it has gained him some credibility since, but he will always be viewed in reduced capacity due to his actions earlier in life.

Anyone on that pretends to tell you they are purveyors of truth but espouse hate speech rhetoric in the next breath is a disinfo agent. They are poison in the well. A metastasized cancer to any aspects of legitimate truth.

Same with anyone on any side doing the same. Anyone spouting joo this, and jewboy that, or goyim this and that, goyim are made to serve, jews are the master race etc.. are losers.

They are losers in life, and stuck in the paradigm of being a small minded idiot.

History will show you this, and prove the same thing over and over again.

Learn to spot these disinfo agents, distance yourself from them, and call them out for what they are.

Nothing good will come from them.

O
You did not answer my question



I want to hear what YOUR official response to the three individuals i asked about

Ehud Olmert
Bibi Netenyahu
Abe Foxman

The past behavior of these three is well documented and pales Mr Duke hate mongering by quantum leaps yet they enjoy all manner of accolades

Please explain to me how you can have one but not the other.

[Horn]

i looked at the DHS website.

DHS canine handlers make $75K to $100K a year.

there's definitely some disaster capitalism at work.

Estonia the guards in the square make 10 times what the salary is for College Professors.

[joboo]

O
You did not answer my question



I want to hear what YOUR official response to the three individuals i asked about

Ehud Olmert
Bibi Netenyahu
Abe Foxman

The past behavior of these three is well documented and pales Mr Duke hate mongering by quantum leaps yet they enjoy all manner of accolades

Please explain to me how you can have one but not the other.


I did answer it. I stated that anyone that classifies people as goyim, and pretends they are the master race are most definitely losers, and history will ultimately remember them as such.

Bigotry is a pervasive stink that can't ever be washed away. In all flavors.

[joboo]

I'd take a step back and try to generalize some aspects of the situation.

Racism is but one potential aspect of bigotry. The key here is bigotry, which is defined as "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices". A racist or any other bigot is not really a disinfo agent, but rather or of a: robot, tool, automation, drone, etc. Basically, bigots are actually somewhat closer to machines than actual human beings (what human beings are supposed to be).

Bigotry is the one area where each an every one of us should focus on. We can all be self-admittedly biased, unreasonable, illogical, emotional, unintelligent, etc. But we are still redeemable if we are able to tolerate others and honestly listen to their opinions (even if they come across in a distorted manner due to the above mentioned flaws). So it's not about racism, but about being able to tolerate, interact with, and learn from others and our surroundings on a continual basis. This is a personal thing and you can't necessarily determine how someone else is operating.

Humans develop from children to adults physically without any effort on their part. Nature just does that for us. However, it does not take us beyond the point of being reactionary robots. Personal development is required to actually be able to interact instead of react (like an animal). When we give others the idea that we're a bigot, we make them think we never achieved that extra level of development and hence lose credibility of possible meaningful communication. The older we are when this happens the worse it is, because as we get older we become more set in our ways.

So it's easy to take a specific person and a specific example and say that behavior is bad. For self-evident examples, a large group of people will agree. However, people may have different views on one specific example, and may have their own differing examples of what's bad and what's good. This view of good and bad and what should be done eventually leads to politics. However the key takeaway is not politics, but rather modifying one's own behavior to be able to engage in meaningful communication with those who disagree with us (and actually more importantly, honest communication with ourselves, where we do most of our lying). We all think we can already do this, when in reality the first bigoted belief is usually that one isn't bigoted. In other words, it's not trivial to even know if one is bigoted or not, much less actually not be bigoted.

Note: racism might not always be bigotry, depending on semantics. Just using it as an example.

The line between racism, and bigotry is so paper thin the terms are synonymous.

If someone holds up the truth in one hand, and promotes an agenda with the other, that is what you call an agent of disinfo. They are leading you along a path of self destruction while pretending otherwise.

Doesn't fox news do this very same thing? Same deal with Alex Jones.

The get you hooked with a facade of legitimacy, then infect your mind with their agenda.

That is a disinfo agent. It's the exact same thing my friend.

These are people that lead you on with a percentage of truth, then feed you poison. I've seen people in this very forum fall victim to it.

[midnight rambler]

I'm so glad there's someone on this forum willing to give us several actual examples of mindfucking on this thread. MANY THX!!!

[joboo]

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[Twisted Titan]

I did answer it. I stated that anyone that classifies people as goyim, and pretends they are the master race are most definitely losers, and history will ultimately remember them as such.

Bigotry is a pervasive stink that can't ever be washed away. In all flavors.



You did not answer my question.

What you did was give a general blanket statement to three individuals i queried you about.

What would put the issuse to rest is to see the question answer in tge following format


As opposed to hate filled Past of mr Duke which brings him constant condemnation ....the behavior of Netenyahu is ( FILL IN YOUR ANSWER)

As opposed to hate filled past of mr Duke which brings him constant condemnation.....the behavior of Abe Foxman is ( FILL IN YOUR ANSWER)

The same formant for Ehud Olmert.

I eagerly await your response

[joboo]

You did not answer my question.

What you did was give a general blanket statement to three individuals i queried you about.

What would put the issuse to rest is to see the question answer in tge following format


As opposed to hate filled Past of mr Duke which brings him constant condemnation ....the behavior of Netenyahu is ( FILL IN YOUR ANSWER)

As opposed to hate filled past of mr Duke which brings him constant condemnation.....the behavior of Abe Foxman is ( FILL IN YOUR ANSWER)

The same formant for Ehud Olmert.

I eagerly await your response

You want severity levels on bigotry?

Equal or perhaps worse for all three.

Can you affix a quantitative # on being in the KKK v.s. being a supremacist of another group? If there is a way please let me know what universal scale of bigotry you employ to come up with the values you're looking for.

You're picking at bones. The answer is there already.

IMO, it's like arguing which pile of dung smells worse compared to what was eaten, or how it may have been digested. In the end it's still a pile on the floor, that smells bad.

[Twisted Titan]

You're picking at bones. The answer is there already.*




Why do you find it so hard to just give your personal assement of mr foxman,bibi and omhert?

Why can you not even call them by name?

Yet you quickly call out KKK

Why not the Likud?

[vacuum]

The line between racism, and bigotry is so paper thin the terms are synonymous.

If someone holds up the truth in one hand, and promotes an agenda with the other, that is what you call an agent of disinfo. They are leading you along a path of self destruction while pretending otherwise.

Doesn't fox news do this very same thing? Same deal with Alex Jones.

The get you hooked with a facade of legitimacy, then infect your mind with their agenda.

That is a disinfo agent. It's the exact same thing my friend.

These are people that lead you on with a percentage of truth, then feed you poison. I've seen people in this very forum fall victim to it.

I'm not disagreeing with you on the facts you state. My main point is more around the context. Basically, you've zeroed in on a phenomena you've observed where you see people who are 80 - 90% right, but 10 - 20% FATALLY flawed (because of a specific issue), to the point of being disinfo agents.

The key realization from my perspective is we're all agents (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent#In_philosophy) by the very fact that we're interacting. And since no one likely has everything figured out, all of us could be considered disinfo agents. The key thing is not to use binary filtering and put people in the 'good' or 'bad' category, but rather ideas form independently of the source. These ideas can then be put into categories.

It's still a good thing to point out what you see as disinfo when you see it, but the key is how you view the process. It's truly just a bunch of personalities (nodes) exchanging messages, each one trying to solve a puzzle. Personalities that have compatible solutions come together (in other words, come to the same forum, like GSUS). Some nodes will see other nodes as putting out garbage, and will either try to repair or ignore (or maybe destroy) them.

So go ahead and point out mistakes you see other people making. It definitely helps and is necessary. My main contention is that pointing out these mistakes isn't how we will eventually "fix everything". Rather, it will be accomplished by an enhancement in people's ability to discern the key points of the noisy information they receive from the imperfect sources around them. So that process is the other half that should be focused on. That's where the real changes will come from imo.

[joboo]

You're picking at bones. The answer is there already.* Why do you find it so hard to just give your personal assement of mr foxman,bibi and omhert? Why can you not even call them by name? Yet you quickly call out KKK Why not the Likud?

The focus was David Duke, because you asked specifically about DD. You initiated the question, I answered it. That is why. You can't come back and say oh there must be something more to this.

For me to jump through additional hoops to make it a form perfect English exam, I just didn't see the point in it. There is no no valid take away conclusion, other than I don't feel like arranging dung in neat little piles when it's really all the same to me.

Duke paces back and forth over the prospect, and scrunches up his nose.....
Yahu puckers his butt hole, and gets high blood pressure...
Abe grinds his teeth, and thinks about kicking puppies...
Barak gets a muscle twitch in his neck, and likes to fantasize about getting head from a donkey...

How else would one imagine what they ultimately feel inside?

If they all get the feeling that they are racially superior, I see it as an even sum game. If murder is involved it ultimately makes it worse. Gaza... West bank...that would be something as well to consider, and ultimately increase the severity of their mental disease, if that's what you're getting at.

Did any of them actually murder anyone with their own hands, or did they encourage others to do it for them? Duke....dunno....possibly...maybe. The other three other than Abe (?)....yes. Who knows maybe even Abe too.

Maybe he books hunting expeditions in IL to take pot shots at gazans with his Tavor. They might even have their own live drone video games wired into their homes. I've been surprised by less.

[joboo]

I'm not disagreeing with you on the facts you state. My main point is more around the context. Basically, you've zeroed in on a phenomena you've observed where you see people who are 80 - 90% right, but 10 - 20% FATALLY flawed (because of a specific issue), to the point of being disinfo agents.

The key realization from my perspective is we're all agents (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent#In_philosophy) by the very fact that we're interacting. And since no one likely has everything figured out, all of us could be considered disinfo agents. The key thing is not to use binary filtering and put people in the 'good' or 'bad' category, but rather ideas form independently of the source. These ideas can then be put into categories.

It's still a good thing to point out what you see as disinfo when you see it, but the key is how you view the process. It's truly just a bunch of personalities (nodes) exchanging messages, each one trying to solve a puzzle. Personalities that have compatible solutions come together (in other words, come to the same forum, like GSUS). Some nodes will see other nodes as putting out garbage, and will either try to repair or ignore (or maybe destroy) them.

So go ahead and point out mistakes you see other people making. It definitely helps and is necessary. My main contention is that pointing out these mistakes isn't how we will eventually "fix everything". Rather, it will be accomplished by an enhancement in people's ability to discern the key points of the noisy information they receive from the imperfect sources around them. So that process is the other half that should be focused on. That's where the real changes will come from imo.

I agree with everything you say except some people (bigots) are not trying to solve the puzzle when they think they've already solved it, and it's proudly sitting on the counter for all to see.

They instinctively know what they are doing is wrong (because it's socially unacceptable in 360 degrees), but they persist in acting that way out of personal pleasure, and defiance. The need to feel above others. It upholds their illusion like getting a drug hit.