The Scandal That Will Bring Obama Down

[Ares]

It’s even worse than we previously thought. A retired four-star admiral is now claiming that Barack Obama intentionally conspired with America’s enemies to stage a bogus attack and the kidnapping of an American ambassador so he could “negotiate” the release of a “hostage” and bolster his mediocre approval ratings just prior to the election!

The Washington Examiner, quoting retired Four-Star Admiral James Lyons, writes: “the attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi… was the result of a bungled abduction attempt…. the first stage of an international prisoner exchange… that would have ensured the release of Omar Abdel Rahman, the ‘Blind Sheik’…”

But something went horribly wrong with Obama’s “October Surprise.” Although the Obama Administration intentionally gutted security at the consulate prior to the staged kidnapping, former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty disobeyed direct orders to stand down, saved American lives, single-handedly killed scores of attackers…and the attackers, believing that Obama had betrayed them, tortured Ambassador Chris Stevens and dragged his body through the streets.

Some will say that Admiral Lyons’ accusation is not a smoking gun. We agree; that’s exactly why Congress must investigate Benghazi-gate.

Moreover, we firmly believe the problem with Admiral Lyons’ assertion is that he is only scratching the surface; the full and complete truth may be much, much worse.

Benghazi-gate is not about a bogus YouTube video series of lies. It’s not about the Obama Administration’s foreign policy ineptitude. We are dealing with something much more sinister… something potentially treasonous… and the following questions, posed in an article in The New American, go to the heart of the matter:

1. ”What was the Obama administration’s full role in helping violent Jihadists, self-styled al Qaeda terrorists, and Western-backed “revolutionaries” take over Libya in the first place?

2. Did that half-baked scheme to arm Jihadist leaders, who… had previously fought U.S. troops in Iraq, contribute to the attack, as countless experts and officials have suggested?

3. What was actually going on at the compound in Benghazi, which, as the report states, was never a “consulate” despite establishment media claims?

4. Was Ambassador Stevens recruiting and arming Jihadists and terrorists to wage war on the Syrian regime after what Obama called the “success” in Libya, as a growing body of credible evidence suggests?

5. Why did the administration claim for so long that the attack was just a “protest” over a YouTube video gone awry, even when it knew definitively that was not the case?

6. Was the lack of security at the compound a political ploy to conceal the extent of the lawlessness and utter chaos left in the wake of Obama’s unconstitutional “regime change” war on Libya, as even members of Congress have alleged?”

It’s clear. Benghazi-Gate is only a small piece of a much larger operation, an attempt to conceal what The New American calls “the Obama administration’s full role in helping violent Jihadists and self-styled al Qaeda terrorists.”

Prior to the election Barack Obama continually told us that “Osama bin-Laden is dead and GM is alive”; but the sad truth is that Osama bin-Laden’s organization is alive and well, and the Obama Regime may be giving aid and comfort to this terrorist network.

And prior to the election, Fox News’ Geraldo Rivera pontificated that Republicans shouldn’t “politicize” Benghazi-gate. Swaggering onto the set of Fox and Friends, Rivera bloviated: “I think we have to stop this politicizing.” And Rivera issued the following veiled warning to Republicans: “Do we want to try and influence the election with a tragedy that happened in North Africa?”

Ironic, isn’t it? Barack Obama played politics with the lives of Americans; like Rivera, the media covered Obama’s rear and threatened to accuse anyone and everyone who mentioned it of “playing politics.”

Weak-willed Republicans apparently took Rivera’s threat to heart as Rivera also said that Republican Senators John Barrasso, James Inhofe, and Bob Corker, who all sit on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, “all agree that the supercharged atmosphere around the story — prudence dictates that these hearings be postponed until” after the election.

Well, the election has come and gone. Congress now has no excuse. The American people needed the truth before the election; but now that Obama is back in the White House, real conservatives must demand answers.

The American people deserve to have those questions answered; and moreover, the American people deserve justice.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/the-scandal-that-will-bring-obama-down/

[Ponce]

If the fact that he is not a US citizen didn't bring him down then nothing will....

V

[Libertarian_Guard]

The American public has not heard the true story about Benghazi. But this story seems like another wabbit hole. It's B.S. and imo will not lead us to the truth, whatever the truth may be.

[midnight rambler]

Sounds about right.

As folks contact their CONgresscritters about stopping gun control, they need to ramp up the pressure on Benghazi-gate.

Rivera is a turd that just won't flush.

The fact that Queen Jezebel keeps dodging the investigation speaks volumes.

[joboo]

If you think some issue in the war zone is going to bring obama down, you just haven't been paying attention very well.

I can see them lining up all the goat farmer jihadists to testify in congress replete with interpreters..

"he bery, bery bad man!" points to obama...

Open shut case no doubt.

[Cebu_4_2]

Not gonna happen.

And for jesibel Joo... FUCK YOU. not a personal attack but should be, against paid trolls.

[joboo]

Not gonna happen.

And for jesibel Joo... FUCK YOU. not a personal attack but should be, against paid trolls.

If that's not a personal attack, I don't know what is.

[mamboni]

When a four star general fingers you, you have a gigantic problem, whether you be a president or a pauper. I don't see how the press can suppress this story. Obama risks a military revolt.

[Spectrism]

Obama has supernatural protection and sanction to continue being the selected leader of an evil country. He is the right demon-possessed man for the job. Amerika deserves this illegal alien devil. Destruction os not far away. It starts to unfold soon and we will be rolling by Mar 22, 2013.

[joboo]

When a four star general fingers you, you have a gigantic problem, whether you be a president or a pauper. I don't see how the press can suppress this story. Obama risks a military revolt.

Kinda pales by comparison...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCHMyN92T7U

[mamboni]

Kinda pales by comparison...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCHMyN92T7U

This is a flat out attempt to derail this thread. I hope you get banned because in my book you've earned it in spades. And the MODs and members here know I NEVER call for a ban. I have a very long fuse. And you asshole, have lit it. Go fuck yourself: not an personal attack, merely a request.

[joboo]

This is a flat out attempt to derail this thread. I hope you get banned because in my book you've earned it in spades. And the MODs and members here know I NEVER call for a ban. I have a very long fuse. And you asshole, have lit it. Go fuck yourself: not an personal attack, merely a request.

What your problem is at this point I have no idea.

That content is directly on par with suppression of realities, and what will, and will not come of this because of some 4 star general. Watch it, and learn how things operate.

Two members now in this thread, have come out of left field, and attacked me personally in lowest intellectual manner possible.

What a disgrace.

Is this kind of behavior to be tolerated on this forum?

Both you and Cebu owe me an apology.

[mamboni]

What your problem is at this point I have no idea.

That content is directly on par with suppression of realities, and what will, and will not come of this because of some 4 star general. Watch it, and learn how things operate.

Two members now in this thread, have come out of left field, and attacked me personally in lowest intellectual manner possible.

What a disgrace.

Is this kind of behavior to be tolerated on this forum?

Both you and Cebu owe me an apology.

No amount of word twisting and feigned hurt feelings will exonerate you. You just took a big stinking crap on this thread and everyone witnessed it jerk.

[joboo]

No amount of word twisting and feigned hurt feelings will exonerate you. You just took a big stinking crap on this thread and everyone witnessed it jerk.


I did no such thing.

It's mainstream news content directly related to a 4 star general will make any appreciable difference.

People are blackmailed throughout. Realize that.

You don't seem very apologetic despite your actions, and yet you add further insult to injury.

You are way out of line here.

[midnight rambler]

Some jackasses live to be complete dicks on the interwebs - it's what they do to amuse themselves, they consider abusing others to be their preferred form of cheap entertainment. This type is VERY egocentric. Not the first time I've witnessed this and surely it won't be the last.

[Mouse]

It's a flipping sticky on the main page.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62293-The-Gentleman-s-Guide-To-Forum-Spies-(spooks-feds-etc-)

[mamboni]

I'm tired of it. Asshole needs a permanent vacation.

[joboo]

I've abused nobody in this thread, yet cannot say the same about others in return.

If you want to speak in terms of moral integrity, there is indeed a problem here.

If you cannot digest certain facts, and realities without telling people to go F themselves, then some members here are in a very sad state of affairs intellectually.

[joboo]

I'm tired of it. Asshole needs a permanent vacation.

...

[joboo]

Some jackasses live to be complete dicks on the interwebs - it's what they do to amuse themselves, they consider abusing others to be their preferred form of cheap entertainment. This type is VERY egocentric. Not the first time I've witnessed this and surely it won't be the last.


Yes I remember simply mentioning dress code in another thread, and this prompted you to immediately call me a f-ing moron.

[vacuum]

The problem is that people keep posting threads on various topics, and unlike most others, joboo keeps discussing meta issues rather than the issues themselves.

For example, in this thread everyone was discussing the Benghazi story and how the story was evolving, and presumably drawing their own conclusions. On the other hand, instead of discussing the evolution of this story, joboo rather discussed his own personal conclusions about it, skipping any mention of the actual content.

Because naturally people each draw their own conclusions, these meta discussions easily create conflict. When discussing just the content we only have to agree on the facts, which is easy. But by trying to predict the future and discuss it at a meta level, we have to either do no thinking on our own and accept someone else's conclusion, or our conclusion has to just happen to be exactly the same.



Conclusion: meta discussions are only appropriate if you've previously started with the subject matter itself and evolved a line of thought leading to your analysis and prediction. When the thoughtful discussion leading to the meta analysis is completely skipped, people feel manipulated or confused.

(This post is a meta meta post, but it is (presumably) ok because I have evolved my reasoning within the post, starting with previous content.)

[zap]

I just got off the phone with my mom, she told me she is very scared, Mind you she has always voted and thought the government was for the people, by the people, All that crap, you know .....

So tonight she told me she believes that President Obama is the Anti-Christ.

What say you?

[mamboni]

The problem is that people keep posting threads on various topics, and unlike most others, joboo keeps discussing meta issues rather than the issues themselves.

For example, in this thread everyone was discussing the Benghazi story and how the story was evolving, and presumably drawing their own conclusions. On the other hand, instead of discussing the evolution of this story, joboo rather discussed his own personal conclusions about it, skipping any mention of the actual content.

Because naturally people each draw their own conclusions, these meta discussions easily create conflict. When discussing just the content we only have to agree on the facts, which is easy. But by trying to predict the future and discuss it at a meta level, we have to either do no thinking on our own and accept someone else's conclusion, or our conclusion has to just happen to be exactly the same.



Conclusion: meta discussions are only appropriate if you've previously started with the subject matter itself and evolved a line of thought leading to your analysis and prediction. When the thoughtful discussion leading to the meta analysis is completely skipped, people feel manipulated or confused.

Thank you Doctor Thread Psychologist. So interesting. What were we discussing, I can't recall....BenGay, BenGoo...

Congratulations to schmucko - mission accomplished - thread trashed, chock full of irrelevent and self-serving content having nothing whatsoever to do with the OP's topic.

[midnight rambler]

I just got off the phone with my mom, she told me she is very scared, Mind you she has always voted and thought the government was for the people, by the people, All that crap, you know .....

So tonight she told me she believes that President Obama is the Anti-Christ.

What say you?

Believe her...there apparently IS a Satanic force at play here. I've heard people actually express that they think it's the spawn of Satan. Since the critter appears to be completely fabricated without ANY means of verifying where it came from, who's to say it's not?? In it's own autobiography* (Dreams From My Father) it comes right out and admits that its 'mentor' from 11 to 18 or 19 was 'Frank' (Marshall Davis - hardcore card-carrying Communist).

*yet another fabrication built to suit

[joboo]

Thank you Doctor Thread Psychologist. So interesting. What were we discussing, I can't recall....BenGay, BenGoo...

Congratulations to schmucko - mission accomplished - thread trashed, chock full of irrelevent and self-serving content having nothing whatsoever to do with the OP's topic.

I stated my opinion, and the reasons why. What your problem is I have no idea.

If you could maintain some semblance of basic human integrity it would at least be the decent thing to do. Yet it is sorely lacking, and still you persist.

Absolutely disgraceful, disgusting behavior.

Way out of line, and you still owe me an apology.

Same with Cebu.

[joboo]

The problem is that people keep posting threads on various topics, and unlike most others, joboo keeps discussing meta issues rather than the issues themselves.

For example, in this thread everyone was discussing the Benghazi story and how the story was evolving, and presumably drawing their own conclusions. On the other hand, instead of discussing the evolution of this story, joboo rather discussed his own personal conclusions about it, skipping any mention of the actual content.

Because naturally people each draw their own conclusions, these meta discussions easily create conflict. When discussing just the content we only have to agree on the facts, which is easy. But by trying to predict the future and discuss it at a meta level, we have to either do no thinking on our own and accept someone else's conclusion, or our conclusion has to just happen to be exactly the same.



Conclusion: meta discussions are only appropriate if you've previously started with the subject matter itself and evolved a line of thought leading to your analysis and prediction. When the thoughtful discussion leading to the meta analysis is completely skipped, people feel manipulated or confused.

(This post is a meta meta post, but it is (presumably) ok because I have evolved my reasoning within the post, starting with previous content.)

What you call meta is what I call zooming out and realizing the big picture.

If people feel "manipulated" or "confused" by that, then they can at least act civilized, and pose questions inquiring as to how, or why, I am arriving at these conclusions.

Reality check.

It's not a rocket science event to think Obama is not going suffer direct persecution in a manner that will threaten his position in office based on past actions, and those who came before him.

The reason many of those 5200 DOD employees were not investigated on child pornography charges is because those allegations are being held over them as a control mechanism.

This information is directly applicable to how that system is working on the inside, and what kind of expectations are to be realized.

The ridiculous part is Cebu even mirrored my initial conclusion, then proceeded to tell me to go F myself.

Pretty unbelievable levels of garbage coming from some people on this forum.

Welcome to GSUS. Pull up a cozy chair, but don't ever disagree, or think too quickly with some people on this forum, or they will proceed to trash your character, and promptly tell you to go F yourself.

[collector]

I'll attempt to re-rail this thread,

I think this is another example of how there's a lot more to this scandal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e-VLZ-_PsM

The fact that this creature can get away with faking a concussion is very reminiscent of the Vince Foster death where she doesn't recall why she was on the phone all night with her lawyers. Again, more proof of a pattern of her lying
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9xVCnQKo-0
(not to derail my attempted re-rail of the thread but look at the familiar cast of characters going back to the 90s !!)

[Libertarian_Guard]

If there is any way of getting back on-track with the origional thread here, I am wondering if anyone will raise the 'white flag?'

The truth won't surface for a long, long time.

[Hillbilly]

What you call meta is what I call zooming out and realizing the big picture.

If people feel "manipulated" or "confused" by that, then they can at least act civilized, and pose questions inquiring as to how, or why, I am arriving at these conclusions.

Reality check.

It's not a rocket science event to think Obama is not going suffer direct persecution in a manner that will threaten his position in office based on past actions, and those who came before him.

The reason many of those 5200 DOD employees were not investigated on child pornography charges is because those allegations are being held over them as a control mechanism.

This information is directly applicable to how that system is working on the inside, and what kind of expectations are to be realized.

The ridiculous part is Cebu even mirrored my initial conclusion, then proceeded to tell me to go F myself.

Pretty unbelievable levels of garbage coming from some people on this forum.

Welcome to GSUS. Pull up a cozy chair, but don't ever disagree, or think too quickly with some people on this forum, or they will proceed to trash your character, and promptly tell you to go F yourself.


I'm even sick of your ass now! you have nothing to contribute to this forum. You only cause problems by popping off at the mouth every chance you get about some impertinent BS. Go away, but ,this is what you have wanted all along to cause problems and become the center of attention. I think we all need to just Block you and no longer respond until you dry up and blow away like a piece of dog shit.

[woodman]

I'm even sick of your ass now! you have nothing to contribute to this forum. You only cause problems by popping off at the mouth every chance you get about some impertinent BS. Go away, but ,this is what you have wanted all along to cause problems and become the center of attention. I think we all need to just Block you and no longer respond until you dry up and blow away like a piece of dog shit.

What we all need to realize is that we are dealing with 'Jewristic Person' from GIM. He has an agenda and is on a payroll.

As far as the original thread goes, all I have to say is that nothing will ever happen to right the wrongs done until the media itself raises a stink. Without the power of the press, nothing will ever come of it. This is why it is so important to control the media. Control the media and you control the populace. They can do anything they want. Obama could copulate with a monkey on the front lawn of the whitehouse and nothing would come of it and no one would believe it unless they saw it on CNN.

[madfranks]

Seriously, can't you just put on "ignore" the people you don't like? And I'm saying this to everybody here. There have been enough threads derailed with petty arguments back and forth.

[Spectrism]

I just got off the phone with my mom, she told me she is very scared, Mind you she has always voted and thought the government was for the people, by the people, All that crap, you know .....

So tonight she told me she believes that President Obama is the Anti-Christ.

What say you?


There are many anti-Messiahs. It is likely that Obama is indwellt by Beelzebub- the lord of the flies. That is a high level fallen angel, a general in the devil's army. Watch for the unveiling of the big cheese in the next couple of months. Two events to watch for: death of Ariel Sharon & death of Pope Ratzinger. When these happen, the next power holders step in.

There will be one who speaks bold words against God and claims that he himself is god. When that happens, you had best get clear of the coastlines immediately. Get to high ground, and have a plan to deal with fires. We are about to see hellfire and brimstone comig out of the sky. By August 2013, the plague of wars will be ignited and eventually become a firestorm of unimaginable proportions.... ending in 2016.... Sep/Oct 2016.

And there will be two bold speakers arise in March 2013. They will be called kooks and sick men by the main news media. But they will speak strong words and control the weather with their words. Military & police will try to silence them but will be overcome. Those two speakers will give out the truths- hard truths that few will want to hear.


Obama cannot be taken down by human force.

[JDRock]

hahah jew boo is acting RIGHT out of the adl handbook on thread derailing! hahahha well, consider yourself DERAILED.

[JDRock]

I'm tired of it. Asshole needs a permanent vacation. Do you think its time to get the "band" back together??

[mamboni]

Do you think its time to get the "band" back together??

Yes! We are being inundated with bagel-eating shillmeisters and sundry kosher kooks. We must defend the homeland against this alien invasion.

[joboo]

I'm even sick of your ass now! you have nothing to contribute to this forum. You only cause problems by popping off at the mouth every chance you get about some impertinent BS. Go away, but ,this is what you have wanted all along to cause problems and become the center of attention. I think we all need to just Block you and no longer respond until you dry up and blow away like a piece of dog shit.

The same band group comes out to cheer each other on every time, and the paranoia ramps up Alex Jones style once again. One guy gets suspicious over a disagreement, and then it's on. Everything I say is one big joooo conspiracy, and the daggers come out in a low IQ name calling paranoia festival of idiocy.

I'm allowed to have an opinion. In fact it's the same opinion you're going to possess once you catch up to speed on the real truth movement....if you're interested in real progress that is.

Two years from now you''l be thinking what an idiot you were two years ago if you can keep up the research.

I could care less what some small clique thinks about anything.

I see things very clearly. I possess a lot of related knowledge, and I will express my opinion.

[JDRock]

Yes! We are being inundated with bagel-eating shillmeisters and sundry kosher kooks. We must defend the homeland against this alien invasion.
Indeed...were at 1/2 strength as mssrs book and magnes are awol....sgt jd reporting for duty SIR!

[mamboni]

Indeed...were at 1/2 strength as mssrs book and magnes are awol....sgt jd reporting for duty SIR!

I miss BOOK and MAGNES. I wish they would return. BOOK staying away this long is highly uncharacteristic - I hope he is well.

[Hillbilly]

Seriously, can't you just put on "ignore" the people you don't like? And I'm saying this to everybody here. There have been enough threads derailed with petty arguments back and forth.

Thanks, I just did that...the turd is drying up...

[JohnQPublic]

Seriously, can't you just put on "ignore" the people you don't like? And I'm saying this to everybody here. There have been enough threads derailed with petty arguments back and forth.

I am not going to judge who is whom, but keep in mind the old saying, "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer". Paid trolls (if they exist here) are the best teachers as to what is coming, and what is on radar right now.

[mamboni]

I am not going to judge who is whom, but keep in mind the old saying, "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer". Paid trolls (if they exist here) are the best teachers as to what is coming, and what is on radar right now.

Don JQPublic: Thank you for inviting me to this forum on the day of the forum that fateful day the forum you started started. And may your next new member be a masculine one!

-Luca Mambazzi

[gunDriller]

a False Flag didn't bring Bush down.

a False Flag won't bring Obama down - unless he stops letting Israel pull his strings.

[JohnQPublic]

Don JQPublic: Thank you for inviting me to this forum on the day of the forum that fateful day the forum you started started. And may your next new member be a masculine one!

-Luca Mambazzi

It wazza an offer you no coulda refused.

Don JQP

[mick silver]

when will this be on the fox new . oh wait no going to happen

[Libertarian_Guard]

when will this be on the fox new . oh wait no going to happen

A better question might be, when will this bring down the current Resident?

[Dogman]

A better question might be, when will this bring down the current Resident?

It will probably end up like this in the long run.

http://usactionnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Hear-No-Evi-See-No-Evil-Speak-No-Evil-.jpg

[woodman]

I am not going to judge who is whom, but keep in mind the old saying, "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer". Paid trolls (if they exist here) are the best teachers as to what is coming, and what is on radar right now.


Words of wisdom.

[gunny highway]

What you call meta is what I call zooming out and realizing the big picture.

If people feel "manipulated" or "confused" by that, then they can at least act civilized, and pose questions inquiring as to how, or why, I am arriving at these conclusions.

Reality check.

It's not a rocket science event to think Obama is not going suffer direct persecution in a manner that will threaten his position in office based on past actions, and those who came before him.

The reason many of those 5200 DOD employees were not investigated on child pornography charges is because those allegations are being held over them as a control mechanism.

This information is directly applicable to how that system is working on the inside, and what kind of expectations are to be realized.

The ridiculous part is Cebu even mirrored my initial conclusion, then proceeded to tell me to go F myself.

Pretty unbelievable levels of garbage coming from some people on this forum.

Welcome to GSUS. Pull up a cozy chair, but don't ever disagree, or think too quickly with some people on this forum, or they will proceed to trash your character, and promptly tell you to go F yourself.
here we go again... now that this thread has been derailed, i might as well add my two cents.
there are two consistent things about you Joboo. 1. it seems all you want is conflict; thrive on it in fact, and 2. you are full of self righteous indignation and aren't afraid to condescend any of the members in expressing it.
i'm guessing you are about 20-22 years old, full of piss and vinegar and have little to no actual real world experience. You live alone, don't have a girlfriend and you rely on the conflict you create here to give your life meaning. i will go so far as to admit you have posted some good stuff in the past but as of late you really are getting on peoples' nerves.

[joboo]

here we go again... now that this thread has been derailed, i might as well add my two cents.
there are two consistent things about you Joboo. 1. it seems all you want is conflict; thrive on it in fact, and 2. you are full of self righteous indignation and aren't afraid to condescend any of the members in expressing it.
i'm guessing you are about 20-22 years old, full of piss and vinegar and have little to no actual real world experience. You live alone, don't have a girlfriend and you rely on the conflict you create here to give your life meaning. i will go so far as to admit you have posted some good stuff in the past but as of late you really are getting on peoples' nerves.

Well if it's derailed so be it. You're incorrect. I defend myself from the onslaught of several users who persist in attacking me personally. There is no end to it. It's like an infection that spread, and refuses to stop.

If it looks like there is ongoing conflict, perhaps you need to identify the true source of it before casting judgement.

I don't put up with low level nonsense like that in real life, and I'm not about to do it here either.

[General of Darkness]

I don't put up with low level nonsense like that in real life, and I'm not about to do it here either.

So what are you going to do about it?

[woodman]

Well, since this thread has been totally disrailed:

Joboo, I for one am glad you are here. You are a usefull tool and a valuable sounding board. You provide contrast to this board. I do like many of your posts and even agree with you on many points. I still believe you are on a payroll to post here and that is all right. It is an excellent thing, because if you spout some politically correct, AIPAC oriented Zionist serving vomit, we can correct you. It is our duty. We will do it for free as a matter of personal largesse. You my freind, will make this world a better place by letting us put you in yours.

[joboo]

Well, since this thread has been totally disrailed:

Joboo, I for one am glad you are here. You are a usefull tool and a valuable sounding board. You provide contrast to this board. I do like many of your posts and even agree with you on many points. I still believe you are on a payroll to post here and that is all right. It is an excellent thing, because if you spout some politically correct, AIPAC oriented Zionist serving vomit, we can correct you. It is our duty. We will do it for free as a matter of personal largesse. You my freind, will make this world a better place by letting us put you in yours.


You are free to do whatever you think you need to do. I've already clearly stated what my positions are on the issues on many occasions, and I stick to them, so if I'm some undercover paid whatever, I really suck at it rather badly on purpose. Wait...maybe that's the conspiracy! /semi-sarc

I have no idea where the paranoia thing comes from, other than perpetual broken telephone incidents, or sheer lunacy. It really is fascinating at times.

Some users here are kinda messed up. Sorry but they are. There are issues going on that become increasingly bizarre the more they are explored.

That's how I see it, feel free to see as you wish.

I don't have a horse in this race. I am a political, and religious athiest. I keep an open mind, and go where the truth leads me. 80% of the truth does not satisfy me as 100% of the truth. For some it does though.

[woodman]

You are free to do whatever you think you need to do. I've already clearly stated what my positions are on the issues on many occasions, and I stick to them, so if I'm some undercover paid whatever, I really suck at it rather badly on purpose. Wait...maybe that's the conspiracy! /semi-sarc

I have no idea where the paranoia thing comes from, other than perpetual broken telephone incidents, or sheer lunacy. It really is fascinating at times.

Some users here are kinda messed up. Sorry but they are. There are issues going on that become increasingly bizarre the more they are explored.

That's how I see it, feel free to see as you wish.

I don't have a horse in this race. I am a political, and religious athiest. I keep an open mind, and go where the truth leads me. 80% of the truth does not satisfy me as 100% of the truth. For some it does though.

Well, as far as the truth goes, I ascribe to Budda's point of view.



http://gold-silver.us/i/sq/5star.gif http://gold-silver.us/i/sq/ThumbsUp.gif http://gold-silver.us/i/sq/ThumbsDwn.gif “Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.”


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So tell me Joboo, are you Juristic Person? If you say you aren't then that is good enough for me. It is just that a certain subtle nuance of similarity comes through your posts. Maybe you are just a kindred spirit?

[woodman]

By the way, any time someone says "I don't have a horse in this race." It is a pretty shure bet they do, or they work for the owners of the track.

I certainly have a horse in the race whenever I comment. This is simple human nature. You would not comment or even care to if you didn't have a horse in the race.

[joboo]

Well, as far as the truth goes, I ascribe to Budda's point of view.



http://gold-silver.us/i/sq/5star.gif http://gold-silver.us/i/sq/ThumbsUp.gif http://gold-silver.us/i/sq/ThumbsDwn.gif “Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.”


http://gold-silver.us/i/sq/as5.gif Buddha quotes (http://gold-silver.us/quotes/buddha/)


So tell me Joboo, are you Juristic Person? If you say you aren't then that is good enough for me. It is just that a certain subtle nuance of similarity comes through your posts. Maybe you are just a kindred spirit?





No I'm not. JP was a straight suit agent straight out of the matrix. I believe a lot of 9/11 is a lie, the wars are all lies, and most Jews are bad news, I just don't subscribe to all aspects of every conspiracy theory put out, or believe that all people are bad... seems silly to even say that, but a lot of people do think that way.

For me a conclusion is just a place to stop thinking, so it has to be damn good from every angle. So much of the truth movement is poisoned from the "crazy" side. I'm very wise to that reality now, never really was before.