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midnight rambler
12th January 2013, 12:01 PM
Like many others I find that pretty much everything surrounding the Sandy Hook incident reeks of high weirdness. One thing in particular that I find troubling is how a geeky, (reportedly) very intelligent, extremely shy, extremely milquetoast (in high school it being reported that when walking in the hallways between classes he would be as close as possible to the hallway walls along with the counselors and other adults on watch for him potentially being bullied - ya gotta admit those are very extreme and highly unusual circumstances, a HUGE anomaly), socially inept, very slightly built (supposedly 6'0" and ~110# :o, *maybe* 6'/125# +/-, I find 6'/110# hard to believe) kid in a loving home with a doting mother had been rendered into this extremely efficient killing machine intent on taking out as many people as possible in an elementary school. (the GFSZs being like a magnet for someone intent on mass carnage/highest possible body count anyway)

So where did this seed for this extreme inconceivable violence come from? There have been no reports of him being bullied.

Have we ever seen this sort of very extreme transformation before, i.e. from a seemingly completely harmless miquetoast to a rage filled killer with no apparent glaring indications of the transformation in the interim?

Where did this rage originate from? How can someone with such a background and history make that jump to extreme rage without someone (like his own mother) picking up on that sort of mental illness?

Is this 'personality/behavior disorder' described above (or whatever you care to call it) the reason why Nancy Lanza pulled him out of public school and chose to home school Adam rather than the reason being his very high intellect?

What could possibly trigger this sort of extreme activity, given the environment and circumstances surrounding Adam Lanza? Apparently his own mother wasn't the least bit concerned about him twisting off otherwise she would have surely secured her weapons out of his reach. (we have no idea how Nancy secured her guns, however I'm sure that 'this official microphone' will advise us of that - eventually, and of course it will be the indisputable truth)

One thing that bothers me most is the destruction of Adam Lanza's computer hard drive. WHY?? Obviously there was evidence of some sort on that hard drive, but what in the world would possess Adam Lanza to take the time and effort to destroy that hard drive in the midst of a killing rampage?? What could possibly motivate someone in Adam Lanza's shoes to destroy ALL clues as well as kill his own mother (what had she possibly done to him to incite this level of rage??) when he had the opportunity to go on his killing rampage when she was away from home for two days?

Nancy Lanza went to a ($250/night) spa resort the two days prior to the 12/14 incident - was this an indicator that she was wanting to 'get away' from her circumstances at home and reflect on her own prior to making some major change in their lives?

I keep coming back to where did this seed for extreme violence come from and why was that computer HD destroyed. Somehow I think those two things are related. Computers were central to Adam Lanza's life. Three years in seclusion in a virtual world is a long time. And who's world was that?

vacuum
12th January 2013, 12:11 PM
I can tell you where we've seen this kind of transformation before, and it's called MPD - multiple personality disorder.

MPD is closely connected to satanism.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?59399-MK-Ultra-s-successor-Monarch-Programming

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?37253-I-think-all-here-should-read-this-site

http://www.whale.to/b/sullivan.html

http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/02/19/interview-kathleen-sullivan-author-book-unshackled-survivors-story-mind-control

Neuro
12th January 2013, 12:18 PM
If he indeed was the killer, which I doubt, I could only imagine paranoia and schizophrenia in combination could create the circumstances to do it, but surely the mother would know about those tendencies, and not keep guns accessible...

midnight rambler
12th January 2013, 12:20 PM
I can tell you where we've seen this kind of transformation before, and it's called MPD - multiple personality disorder.

MPD is closely connected to satanism.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?59399-MK-Ultra-s-successor-Monarch-Programming

Ok, I can find that believable. It certainly appears that Newtown is a nest of Satanists. So who do you think had access or gave access?

midnight rambler
12th January 2013, 12:21 PM
If he indeed was the killer, which I doubt, I could only imagine paranoia and schizophrenia in combination could create the circumstances to do it, but surely the mother would know about those tendencies, and not keep guns accessible...

Somehow the patsy would have had to get to the scene of the crime, and my impression would be under his own power.

I don't rule out the possibility that someone other than Nancy and Adam were in the Lanza home early on that Friday morning.

And how does Chris Rodia fit into all this, since it was his Honda Civic which allegedly transported Adam and his weapons to the school?

joboo
12th January 2013, 12:56 PM
If the link to SSRI's and suicide/violence is any indication....there's definitely that.

Also the way the kid looked and acted by default probably did him no favors in the amount of ongoing social rejection he received. That would all be cumulative especially if the meds routine was stepped up at any point.

vacuum
12th January 2013, 01:04 PM
Ok, I can find that believable. It certainly appears that Newtown is a nest of Satanists. So who do you think had access or gave access?

Access to Lanza? If it was a case of MPD, it would be something that had occurred over a long period of time. Probably involving the whole family. I'm reminded of a story I read which I can't find now, where they had normal lives, but at night would wake up and drive somewhere (the other personality would) to undergo this conditioning. In the morning, they'd be totally unaware of what happened other than the fact that they were very tired all the time and needed extra sleep. Also, they'd go to bed dressed in sweatpants and wearing socks and stuff, so when they got up they could just go strait out the door.

I'm not sure if this is the same individual and/or same story, but it appears to be close to this book (which I haven't read):
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3839510/Kathleen-SullivanUnshackled-a-survivors-story-of-mind-control

gunDriller
12th January 2013, 01:11 PM
If he indeed was the killer, which I doubt, I could only imagine paranoia and schizophrenia in combination could create the circumstances to do it, but surely the mother would know about those tendencies, and not keep guns accessible...

just because she was a prepper, doesn't mean she was totally prepared.

my guess is, for a short period of time, she was VERY surprised when Adam pulled a gun on her. since they lived in the same house, he had plenty of time to figure out where the guns were stored.

she may have thought of him as in-capable of physical violence, especially towards his mother, IF that is what happened.

midnight rambler
12th January 2013, 01:15 PM
my guess is, for a short period of time, she was VERY surprised when Adam pulled a gun on her.

It has been widely reported that Nancy was shot in the head while asleep in bed. But we don't know what we don't know.

joboo
12th January 2013, 01:20 PM
If he indeed was the killer, which I doubt, I could only imagine paranoia and schizophrenia in combination could create the circumstances to do it, but surely the mother would know about those tendencies, and not keep guns accessible...

Parents are usually the last people to expect their kids would do anything crazy like that, especially if it's true she was training him on how to use firearms. He probably cleaned them for her many times without incident. It could be as simple as her freaking out large on him due to some other stresses in her life at the time, and the kid popped. Hard to say how hard social interaction at school was on him, and how mean other kids were towards him.

If the kid was feeling like crap, mother freaked, then he downed a bunch of pills by himself to "fix it"...short while later mom comes back for round two of life crisis moment on him out of frustration....buddy is zooming on SSRI chaos...and freaks out. It's plausible.

Libertytree
12th January 2013, 01:24 PM
"IF" logic can be applied, Adam would have went to his ex high school for whatever retribution he wanted to dole out and not an elementary school. Even crazy some bitches have clear priorities.

midnight rambler
12th January 2013, 01:30 PM
The one thing that keeps screaming out at me, why destroy the hard drive? Obviously there was some info on there that *someone* didn't want anyone to retrieve. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around why Adam Lanza would bother doing that. James Holmes didn't destroy his hard drive, and he didn't appear to intend to commit suicide.

Libertytree
12th January 2013, 01:36 PM
The one thing that keeps screaming out at me, why destroy the hard drive? Obviously there was some info on there that *someone* didn't want anyone to retrieve. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around why Adam Lanza would bother doing that. James Holmes didn't destroy his hard drive, and he didn't appear to intend to commit suicide.

I agree, even crazy bastards don't care what is left behind if they plan on offing themselves, it just don't fucking matter, there are much more important things to attend to.

midnight rambler
12th January 2013, 01:38 PM
I agree, even crazy bastards don't care what is left behind if they plan on offing themselves, it just don't fucking matter, there are much more important things to attend to.

Just random thoughts LT, just random thoughts.

Off to go pick up another case of 12 ga. ammo.

joboo
12th January 2013, 01:39 PM
"IF" logic can be applied, Adam would have went to his ex high school for whatever retribution he wanted to dole out and not an elementary school. Even crazy some bitches have clear priorities.

The school connection could be a myriad of reasons. Some connection with the mother. Someone there made her angry, an affair with a teacher...who knows, she freaked out, he dosed, freaked, killed her to make her stop yelling, then tried to fix it all by going there.

It can go down so many ways that are explainable. That's the problem I have with it. Nothing rarely works out in a logical manner in life. It's usually all over the place, and completely irrational at times, especially with those kinds of drugs, and a diagnosed mental condition.

Horn
12th January 2013, 02:47 PM
If he indeed was the killer, which I doubt, I could only imagine paranoia and schizophrenia in combination could create the circumstances to do it, but surely the mother would know about those tendencies, and not keep guns accessible...

The mall shooting in Oregon seems like a "crazy" person's attempt at mass slaughter.

All these others with high kill ratio incidents seem the work of professionals either able to line up their prey for execution,

or well practiced marksmen from a distance.

old steel
12th January 2013, 03:23 PM
No way he was the shooter. Only a trained killer could pull that off.

The military goes to great lengths to train people to kill other people and still they fail.

PatColo
12th January 2013, 04:59 PM
Dissecting "Lanza's motives, 'scripts, background.." etc seems to me to be missing the mark completely, and enshrining gov's official myth that Lanza did what agenda-driven gov (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/12/28/agenda-prevails-over-truth/) has said he did. It's analogous to looking at 9/11 in a "scary moozlem blowback..." frame- when there's no convincing evidence that moozlems had any meaningful role (http://davidraygriffin.com/articles/was-america-attacked-by-muslims-on-911/) in the false flag attacks. Just like there's no convincing evidence that "lone-nut Lanza" did anything resembling what's been attributed to him, post mortem. Waaay to implausible, waaaay too much evidence (http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-unanswered-questions-and-missing-information/5316776)indicating sandy hook was another false flag psyop.

Incogman says, Pass This Sandy Hook Graphic Out To Everyone! (http://incogman.net/01/2013/pass-this-sandy-hook-graphic-out-to-everyone/)

http://incogman.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SANDY-HOOK-JEW-FALSE-FLAG.jpg

joboo
12th January 2013, 07:17 PM
Incogmans's site graphics looks like an edition of mad magazine. Is he supposed to be serious or joking?

Cebu_4_2
12th January 2013, 08:02 PM
The comments are good.

http://incogman.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/JEW-GUN-GRABBERS-MONTAGE.jpg

Hatha Sunahara
12th January 2013, 11:05 PM
It's withdrawal from SSRIs that makes people freak out and get violent.

I once thought that the psy-ops people had a network of doctors and psychiatrists who informed them of patients that were prescribed SSRI meds. They then cultivated these people by befriending them and using various forms of mind control, most likely hypnosis and giving them limited MK-Ultra programming, as well as grooming them for their planned operations. They made weapons available to these people, and set them up to be sacrificial patsies. They then took away their SSRI meds a few days before their 'mission' was to be acted out, took them to the scene, did the shooting themselves, and killed the patsies. and finally escaping in all the confusion caused by the shooting spree.

I have now updated my hypothetical scenario to include the possibility that they use 'live drills' as a cover for these shooting sprees, and simply arrive at the scene ahead of the live drill with the patsy who may or may not be on SSRI meds, and proceed to shoot a lot of innocents and the patsies. The people who are the shooting victims know about the live drill, and think everything is just a simulation and nobody panics until just before they are actually killed. And of course this kind of scenario can be modified using actors and conjured up victims where there are no actual killings except for maybe the patsy. The point being that someone must be blamed for the incident, and the incident always involves some kind of rapid firing firearm(s). They are testing the credulity of the masses. And the masses generally pass the dumbness test with flying colors.

I am hopeful for the future because I see that more and more people are flunking the dumbness test, and questioning the integrity of the stories they are being told by the mass media.

I'd like to be around in the future after everything crashes, and the Truth and Reconciliation processes start, to find out what really went down with all these mass shootings. What sort of sociopathic careerists would pull off these cruel spectacles of human sacrifice, or if any of them were just hoaxes.

Hatha