View Full Version : 60 Minutes - Are robots hurting job growth?
Shami-Amourae
14th January 2013, 01:21 AM
Watch at the link below. This is the future. It discusses how fast automation is happening. Jobs are never coming back. Even China and other poor countries wont benefit long since robots will replace almost all human workers.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50138922n
vacuum
14th January 2013, 02:00 AM
Good piece. Only 13:31.
If this is true, you'd expect to see jobs like engineering having low unemployment rates, while at the same time the overall unemployment rate, mostly unskilled-type labor, is high. This is what I see in my personal experience.
Shami-Amourae
14th January 2013, 02:22 AM
My job not only is secure, but it's growing madly profitable like mad since of the depression. I run a business in a virtual world, and many people come there to waste time and live virtual lives (since their real ones suck?)
I find a lot people from the US and the EU who are on welfare for years playing the game, and spending/wasting money on my stuff (I deal with people from literally all countries with an Internet connection.) The other large group is the ones who are still living at home with their parents. I would say maybe half of the people who play the game have actual jobs. It used to be a lot less to, both traffic to virtual worlds, and with a higher percentage of people working.
Why do I bring this up? Since a lot of people will not work again anymore. A lot of them will be wandering around not knowing what to do during this "transition" period. Welfare will not end, since if it does, the entire system and economy will implode back to the stone age. Welfare will phase us into an age where almost no one works, and everything is automated by machines. Welfare is something that will be seen as a human right, and it will be forever engrained into the consciousness.
This is the future IF things don't collapse. I believe the next 20-40 years will be the most game changing years in human history. This is where we live in a fully automated society where (most) people don't work anymore.
Twisted Titan
14th January 2013, 05:28 AM
The same thing is happening. ....just.like how the job got sucked to Mexico back in the 90
This time they are sucked down the Robotic memory hole.
Robots can make virtually anything they are programed for. .....only problem is they cant consume or BUY it.
That why this is doomed to failuer
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palani
14th January 2013, 05:54 AM
When you build a tire (semi- or tractor) before it goes into the mold the worker grabs an awl and punches a bunch of holes in it. The reason is to let out air trapped between the bladder and the tire 'carcass'. The holes get cured when the rubber goes liquid. The worker can tolerate typically 6 months of this type of activity and then they blow out the shoulder joint. This requires minimum $15,000 in reconstructive surgery.
The application is perfect for a robot but the United Rubber Workers would rather risk on-job injury rather than lose this little portion of their job.
Santa
14th January 2013, 06:52 AM
But not to worry. We're still in the floppy disk stage of our evolution into obsolescence.
BrewTech
14th January 2013, 06:55 AM
This biggest job markets will be designing and building robot parts, and people that can fix broken robots will also be good to go.
Until robots take over those jobs too.
Hypertiger
14th January 2013, 07:32 AM
how the system works.
at teh bottom there are people that make a dollar a day...but they have to produce far more dollars than they get in return.
it's why where there are droughts at the bottom...they starve...because they make so little...they end up spending their savings which would be excess food on money to buy clothes and other things.
now with globalization...they are demanding more than a dollar a day to continue trying to escape the situation they find themselves in supporting all of those above.
The yield of the slaves at the bottom is amasses by those higher in the hierarchy and used as backing for the production of more money...and more money and more money.
that all at the top enjoy.
the top taxes the bottom or slaves to support the servants above.
and servants cost more than slaves.
servants of your religion are Bill gates and Obama and the Queen of England and the Jews and you.
You all have been doing this for all of recorded history.
as the wages at the bottom increase...the cost of food will be bid up.
the only way to keep the system from hyperinflating is to either increase the supply of food massively or cut demand for it.
that is what economic sanctions do...cut off demand.
but how do you choose who lives and who dies in a democracy of victims of the choice?
by getting you all to kill yourselves.
then it's your fault.
that is the religion you all worship.
anyways...when the food supply is exhausted...there will be no way to stop hyperinflation other than to cut demand.
Like North Korea deciding to obliterate south korea.
that would cut the demand for money down quick
the starvation at the bottom of productive slaves will do as well.
you could just print money to make up the difference...and pay the bottom to supply the top with money...but you can't eat money...
all you can do with money in relation to food supply is bid food up or down.
and becauseyou all want food to sustain your existence...the top will have to raise prices to obtain the yield of power they demand...unless you are put on rations like during the great depression prior to the liquidation climax called WW2 at the end of the 1933-1944 bankruptcy reorganization of the global religion you all worship.
FDR and Hitler installed 1933...check...FDR and Hitler uninstalled...1944...check...
Bretton Woods 1944 check....and that has been the regime that has ruled the puppets of Earth since then...check.
105 of the population of the planet was wiped out dueing the liquidation climax of the religion you all worship.
absolute capitalism...the top or powerful tax the bottom or powerless to keep them as powerless as possible to sustain the powerful with as much power is required to sustain teh powerful.
and when the bottom reaches their maximum potnetial to sustain teh top...the system collapses...from teh bottom to the top.
the largest source of power is in the middle class...the middle is the most expensive part of the operation.
When the system reaches maximum potential....the middle recieves less to make up the difference at the top...
This process is underway globally now.
robots are being used to replace production workers...but this will only buy time.
not employment for those who are no longer needed...but you can't let them starve...and at the top all teh money comes from taxing the bottom...and when they can't afford to pay the taxes to sustain their existance...they die.
and then taxes have to be raised to make up the difference.
eventually you get to the point where robots completely and totally replace all the people you don't need to exist anymore.
and then what do you do if the robots break down for any reason?
you are right back to where you started from trying to escape the consequences of your selfishness.
there is no waay for you all to escape what you all have done and continue to do every day except to realize what you are doing is wrong and you have to stop.
but if the robots stop for any reason...teh system collapses.
You all don't have a clue what is going on.
by the time you all rise up to try and resist your fate...It's always too late.
The chance to rise up and demand change happend at the end of WW2...and you all were to busy enjoying the end of the negative phase of the lie to suspect that you were in any danger of falling victim to the positive phase of the lie an accept it again as Truth.
Which you all in the system worship.
the same thing this time...after the negative phase reaches it's logical conclusion...you will be in the exact same position...where you need to demand a change but are easily convinced by victory over the negative phase to walk down the same path again...
the same path you all have been walking down for all of recorded history.
the path of least resistance to the logical conclusion of the take more power than you give equation.
all lies you fall for look like Truth at the start...until you get to the maximum potential of them to sustain their existence as Truth...
when a lie requires the power that is Truth to sustain their continued existance fighting truth...that is revelation.
what you all thought was Truth is reveled to be a lie...
the entire global trade system set up in 1944 taht you all are dependant upon to sustain your existance is the lie you all currently look at and see that you all think is truth.
all that teh bretton woods agreement was...was where the decision was made to give another try to what lead to bretton woods to begin with...but this time...way better.
instand of the roaring 20's...it was the roaring 6 decades now.
because following WW1 it was germany that was made to pay from the war to sustain the peace that followed...they were the bottom enslaved by the winners or top...the winning powers...the most powerful dominating the least powerful.
following WW2 ...the world was made to pay for the war to sustain teh peace that has followed.
that is now self destructing.
because the peace following the war was a lie and the war was a lie.
it's all lies used by the top to manipulate you all into supplying the demand by the top for more power.
and when teh bottom can't supply the yield the top is demanding to sustain the war of the lie against Truth...the lie is defeated and self destructs.
That is what causes the great depressions or great eruptions of negativity.
When the slaves can't sustain the master they lose all their power over the slaves.
When the worshipers of the religion can't supply the power their false GOD demands...The false GOD can only punish them.
Because the false GOD is ruled by GOD...Truth
all the governments of teh world are lies...the whole thing you all think is Truth is a lie.
Everything you tell me is lies based on lies based on lies.
the only solution to the logical conclusion of the take more than you give equation is death.
That is all the system does...
Your body inflates to maximum potential and implodes...and so does the system you all created to sustain you all.
the program all the robots that consume food for fuel and use water as lubricant for all teh moving parts are following for the owners.
Rr the religion you all were persuaded to accept when you were created out of thin air and began existing to suerve the purpose you currently are within the system.
midnight rambler
14th January 2013, 07:49 AM
Hey, check it out - Twisted Kitty posted and didn't explicitly call us all morons.
Ponce
14th January 2013, 10:51 AM
That was one of the reasons as to why we were able to recover from the 1929 depression....WAR.....it gave everyone a job and they were able to buy a house with a car in the garage and a apple pie in every table...........but now.........our weapons of war are either made overseas or by robots that requires no special attention.
As a lathe mathinest I never worried about my job because they always need someone to make one or two of a kind where it was more expencive to do it with a nc (my days) machine.
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