here are the 23 executive orders

[chad]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-16/obamas-23-executive-gun-control-actions

The following is a list, provided by the White House, of executive actions President Obama plans to take to address gun violence.
1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

[osoab]

A poster on another board pointed out that barry's announcement occurs 33 days after Sandy Hook.

[mick silver]

now think about all the troops when they come home they are screen for mental health are they going to be ban from owning guns

[osoab]

You know, it's just a bunch of grandstanding.

Why is the CDC going to study gun violence? I thought they have already done plenty of studies.

What about the ATF director. Isn't it barry's fault for not nominating one already?

I can't believe this took uncle Joe weeks to figure this out.

[osoab]

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

I hope they show barry sporting a gun for these adds.

[osoab]

Why Obama's gun plan may be doomed (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/house-shows-little-appetite-for-gun-reform-86251.html?hp=t2_7)

[mick silver]

osoab they can do what they want . just look back a few years ago . no one wanted the bank bailout what did they they do

[mamboni]

This is boilerplate administrator-wants to-look-like-he's-doing something legal mumbo jumbo gobblegook amorphous nothing. This is all nip and tuck and pay lip service to the gun control nuts. The latter will not be happy. But it appears that Obama has decided to duck on the gun grab issue - interesting. Perhaps people on the inside, allies and adversaries, warned him that he was stepping on a pissed off rattler this time and he'd better back off. Wouldn't it be ironic if Obama's threatening anti-gun rhetoric with no substantive follow-through winds up doing more for gun sales and private ownership than any campaign of the NRA.

[osoab]

Wouldn't it be ironic if Obama's threatening anti-gun rhetoric with no substantive follow-through winds up doing more for gun sales and private ownership than any campaign of the NRA.

I believe him and his ilk have already achieved that non-goal.

[horseshoe3]

This is boilerplate administrator-wants to-look-like-he's-doing something legal mumbo jumbo gobblegook amorphous nothing. This is all nip and tuck and pay lip service to the gun control nuts. The latter will not be happy. But it appears that Obama has decided to duck on the gun grab issue - interesting. Perhaps people on the inside, allies and adversaries, warned him that he was stepping on a pissed off rattler this time and he'd better back off. Wouldn't it be ironic if Obama's threatening anti-gun rhetoric with no substantive follow-through winds up doing more for gun sales and private ownership than any campaign of the NRA.

This was my first reaction, and it still might be true. But my second thought was that they floated this anti-climactic speech to get everyone to let their guard down. Now that we're all relieved that it won't be that bad, they can start doing what they really want and noone will notice until it's too late.

[Neuro]

Really this amounts to nothing, IMO. For most of them I don't even understand why they would need to be executive orders. Can't he just send a bloody letter, instead of making an executive order about sending a letter?

[Twisted Titan]

This was my first reaction, and it still might be true. But my second thought was that they floated this anti-climactic speech to get everyone to let their guard down. Now that we're all relieved that it won't be that bad, they can start doing what they really want and noone will notice until it's too late.

DING ! DING! DING! DING! DING!


This is the camels nose under the tent.

He played his hand well on the two safest issues Background Checks and Mental Health

He will go after Ammo caches later....the next mass shooting will set the stage nicely

[osoab]

Really this amounts to nothing, IMO. For most of them I don't even understand why they would need to be executive orders. Can't he just send a bloody letter, instead of making an executive order about sending a letter?


barry's teleprompter was getting lonely.

[Osaka]

Yep, these 23 orders are really fairly tame, compared to what I was afraid Obama might try to do. Obama said, prior to the shootings, that he supported the 2nd amendment, and here he has backed up that statement with some very mild remedies that will surely have Piers Morgan and Jon Stewart all pissed off.

[mamboni]

This was my first reaction, and it still might be true. But my second thought was that they floated this anti-climactic speech to get everyone to let their guard down. Now that we're all relieved that it won't be that bad, they can start doing what they really want and noone will notice until it's too late.

Obama has been arrogantly taunting white America since he starting campaigning for POTUS. This last act of unmitigated hubris was the final straw. White America is now wide awake and a little bit pissed off at the way it was awakened. It will not be going back to sleep for long long time. Obama has instigated a renaissance of the 2nd Amendment and the importance or private gun ownership.

Pride before the fall - same as it ever was.

[Horn]

now think about all the troops when they come home they are screen for mental health are they going to be ban from owning guns

Be sure the exam will have a "No Child Left Behind" clause to go over there and shoot to kill in the first place.

[midnight rambler]

Yep, these 23 orders are really fairly tame, compared to what I was afraid Obama might try to do. Obama said, prior to the shootings, that he supported the 2nd amendment, and here he has backed up that statement with some very mild remedies that will surely have Piers Morgan and Jon Stewart all pissed off.

Don't leave out that POS Stephen Colbert - Colbert had that POS limey cockholster Prick Morgan on his show a couple of days ago and they were both yukking it up over gun control. (recall that when Larry Pratt chuckled over Morgan's absolutely absurd lying that Morgan jumped him with a very indignant "How dare you laugh about such a very serious matter!")

[General of Darkness]

I need to get one of these.

http://www.foulmouthshirts.com/Designs/FUCK-OBAMA450.jpg

[Horn]

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

This one has foreseeable consequences, they could make registered weapons only work for their owners.

Along with some stupid "mating" security system that renders the weapon practically useless.

[sirgonzo420]

I need to get one of these.

http://www.foulmouthshirts.com/Designs/FUCK-OBAMA450.jpg


One what?

Girl?

T-shirt?

Or one set of both?

[midnight rambler]

This was my first reaction, and it still might be true. But my second thought was that they floated this anti-climactic speech to get everyone to let their guard down. Now that we're all relieved that it won't be that bad, they can start doing what they really want and noone will notice until it's too late.

I agree that this is no time to let our guard down. What 0bomber has done here is lay the groundwork for more to come, ESPECIALLY along the lines of "mentally incompetent" to own guns. Guess who gets to determine such matters - the state.

Let no one suffer the delusion that those waging war against gunowners are backing off in any way.

[General of Darkness]

One what?

Girl?

T-shirt?

Or one set of both?

Apparently she comes with the shirt. Who knew?

[gunDriller]

You know, it's just a bunch of grandstanding.

Why is the CDC going to study gun violence? I thought they have already done plenty of studies.

What about the ATF director. Isn't it barry's fault for not nominating one already?

I can't believe this took uncle Joe weeks to figure this out.


Americans have a Group IQ of about 20.

this reminds me a lot of 9-11. all of the safeguards needed to stop 9-11 were in place on 9-11. they were just deliberately ignorred - to provide an Official Reason for the Cancerous Growth of the American Police State.

how would any of the "safeguards" that the Traitorous Kenyan has enacted today, would have stopped Adam Lanza's mother from purchasing her weapons ?

none, as far as i can tell.


none of these new laws would have stopped the Sandy Hook incident, if it occurred as Officially Advertised.

it's like Americans are saying, "OK, i'll blow my knee off - THAT'LL SHOW 'EM !!"

because we have to do something.


Notice that the gun laws dovetail with Obama-care - using doctors to implement the Police State.

and they create a new Survival Rule - avoid Psychiatrists and Therapists like the Plague - unless you want to give up your 2nd Amendment rights.

[BabushkaLady]

The following is a list, provided by the White House, of executive actions President Obama plans to take to address gun violence.

That's just a wish list.

I want to see the list from his puppet masters, the banksters. He is going to have bigger problems soon. Expect something up their sleeve while attention is on the 2a.

[midnight rambler]

That's just a wish list.

I want to see the list from his puppet masters, the banksters. He is going to have bigger problems soon. Expect something up their sleeve while attention is on the 2a.

Expect a FF at least on par with OKC.

[vacuum]

Expect a FF at least on par with OKC.

It will have to be related to domestic terrorism. That way all their powers are triggered, anyone that talks about the 2nd amendment in terms of "stopping the government" is now a terrorist as well. That sort of talk must be made unspeakable, and the best way to do it is get a representative person to commit some massive event "based on their ideology".

Via the SH incident, the "sides" have been established. Now what is needed is an agent provocateur.

[chad]

yep. it'll be some "gun rights group" that does something. then all gun rights people will be "terrorists." then they will need to round the terrorists up, you will need to be on the lookout for terrorists, etc. it was us all along.

[midnight rambler]

It will have to be related to domestic terrorism. That way all their powers are triggered, anyone that talks about the 2nd amendment in terms of "stopping the government" is now a terrorist as well. That sort of talk must be made unspeakable, and the best way to do it is get a representative person to commit some massive event "based on their ideology".

Via the SH incident, the "sides" have been established. Now what is needed is an agent provocateur.


yep. it'll be some "gun rights group" that does something. then all gun rights people will be "terrorists." then they will need to round the terrorists up, you will need to be on the lookout for terrorists, etc. it was us all along.

The 'problem' has progressed even further than the Queen Jezebel and King Ahab (BJ) had with the 'vast right wing conspiracy' so yeah, it's reasonable to expect the Commies to do something to make everyone run for cover, just like in '95 - imo.

[madfranks]

What about the ATF director. Isn't it barry's fault for not nominating one already?

This is to create a PERMANENT head of the ATF, nominated by none other than Zero himself.

[BabushkaLady]

I think their timing for tyranny in American history is off right now. Maybe 30 years ago, or 30 years in the future.

Most awake people and even some sleeping people are fully aware of Waco, Ruby Ridge, OKC, 911, Aurora, and now SH. People in general don't trust the government.

We live in the most informed, connected society that I remember. A YT video can wake up someone that wants to keep thy head in the sand, but has to admit "something isn't right" any longer. These topics used to just be shared amongst the "fringe". Now it is everywhere and accessible.

Their timing is off. just my .02

[osoab]

This is to create a PERMANENT head of the ATF, nominated by none other than Zero himself.


I had heard the permanent angle.

Going off of the list, though,


11. Nominate an ATF director.

appears to say that he is going to get off his ass and nominate a director.

From this story after barry's presser it looks like he is nominating the current interm director.

Meet Todd Jones, Obama's Nominee for A.T.F. Director (http://www.nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/meet-todd-jones-obama-s-nominee-for-a-t-f-director-20130116)
This guy was brought in after fast and furious came to the forefront.

Nothing in the above article about a permanent placement either.

[PlatinumBlonde]

I think their timing for tyranny in American history is off right now. Maybe 30 years ago, or 30 years in the future.

Most awake people and even some sleeping people are fully aware of Waco, Ruby Ridge, OKC, 911, Aurora, and now SH. People in general don't trust the government.

We live in the most informed, connected society that I remember. A YT video can wake up someone that wants to keep thy head in the sand, but has to admit "something isn't right" any longer. These topics used to just be shared amongst the "fringe". Now it is everywhere and accessible.

Their timing is off. just my .02

Yes the timing is off. They should have sprung the trap before the proliferation of the internet..

And as far as false flags go--I have some ideas as to how they or it will unfold..

[Agrippa]

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

I think this is the one that may bite. What "categories of individuals" are currently allowed to have a gun who probably shouldn't? A few likely ones:



People on the "No Fly" list.
People who have been convicted of DWI.
People guilty of gross misdemeanors.
People who don't vaccinate their children.
People who home-school their children.
Members of "radical" organizations.
Conspiracy theorists.
People who frequent unapproved web-sites.

[ArizonaDad]

Here's the one that scares me:

"4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks."

He's going to put Eric Holder in charge of adding to the categories of people who are prohibited from having a gun? What could possibly go wrong there?

Janet Napolitano published a list of the characteristics of potential terrorists. Maybe they will start with that list.

What categories will he add?

People obsessed with the constitution
Evangelical Christians
Gun nuts
Texans
Homeschoolers
Gold investors
Conspiracy theorists
Birthers
Truthers
Racists
White people
Rural residents
Republicans
People with Ron Paul bumper stickers
Tea Partiers

Am I missing any?

[chad]

Here's the one that scares me:

"4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks."

He's going to put Eric Holder in charge of adding to the categories of people who are prohibited from having a gun? What could possibly go wrong there?

Janet Napolitano published a list of the characteristics of potential terrorists. Maybe they will start with that list.

What categories will he add?

People obsessed with the constitution
Evangelical Christians
Gun nuts
Texans
Homeschoolers
Gold investors
Conspiracy theorists
Birthers
Truthers
Racists
White people
Rural residents
Republicans
People with Ron Paul bumper stickers
Tea Partiers

Am I missing any?

gs-us members.

[Son-of-Liberty]

I think their timing for tyranny in American history is off right now. Maybe 30 years ago, or 30 years in the future.

Most awake people and even some sleeping people are fully aware of Waco, Ruby Ridge, OKC, 911, Aurora, and now SH. People in general don't trust the government.

We live in the most informed, connected society that I remember. A YT video can wake up someone that wants to keep thy head in the sand, but has to admit "something isn't right" any longer. These topics used to just be shared amongst the "fringe". Now it is everywhere and accessible.

Their timing is off. just my .02

I tend to agree. 5 years ago if you read the comments of youtube videos pertaining to an incident like this 75-80% would be pro establishment now that has switched and the few still in support of the government are getting their asses kicked verbally. This is even happening on videos that have nothing to do with conspiracy.

They really have a problem on their hands with this internet thing. It isn't just the spreading of the truth about the NWO but just information in general. People are bypassing their gate-keeping and teaching themselves about health and nutrition, permaculture, alternative energy sources, firearms and other things that make people more independent. People are uploading free plans for making gun parts with 3D printers or how to make your own tractor with off the shelf materials. Look at the gun and ammo sales, things are backfiring.

If they try and squash these groups now or shut down the internet it is just going to wake more people up.

Perhaps 2012 was the end of the world as we knew it.

[osoab]

The Fürer’s Edicts. (http://www.dethguild.com/the-furers-edicts/)



Update I: The Purveyor of Hemp Rope and Streetlights Chimes in (http://www.dethguild.com/the-furers-edicts/#comment-84):

Courtesy of J.M.B. (http://www.dethguild.com/the-furers-edicts/#comment-84), our resident legal-eagle, we have some positively delightful projections on the sort of utopia our God-King wishes construct for us feeble peasants:
1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

- What this means:
This will set the stage for medical records getting reviewed by the various agencies of the federal government.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

- What this means:
A: Remove state barriers to sharing medical records with the various agencies of the federal government.
B: Opening a path for insurance companies to require special plans for gun owners. Sounds expensive.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

- What this means:
Bribe states to provide medical records to the various agencies of the federal government. Wavers, grants, you name it – they’ll use tax-dollars creatively.

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

- What this means:
All that information they will be collecting in sections 2-3? This will be used to part as many people as possible from their second amendment privileges.

5. Propose rule-making to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

- What this means:
If the authorities take possession of a weapon, they can check medical records to discover reasons to never return it.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

- What this means:
"Encourage" the sporting goods chains and big-box stores to consult these newly collected records for reasons to deny a sale. Expect "Guidance" to become "Require" shortly after the next shooting.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

- What this means:
Your tax dollars will be used to manufacture a publicly funded Anti-NRA.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

- What this means:
Lean on producers of gun locks and gun safes. This will make them more expensive. Recall that many states have regulations w/regards to weapon storage. The idea is to increase the up-front expense of owning a firearm.

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

- What this means:
The various federal agencies will use this as an excuse to pilfer the records of FFL license holders when a weapon they sold is used in a crime. De-facto registration.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

- What this means:
You lost your AR-15 in a tragic boating accident and reported it stolen? Now they can easily check if you are in violating USC, Title 18, Section 1001.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

- What this means:
I’m positive Obama will select a true champion of gun rights.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

- What this means:
Unless they are going to arm groups 2-3, don’t expect much here beyond suspensions for playing cowboys and Indians. It’s not in their interest to meaningfully stop gun-violence.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

- What this means:
Expect every trivial violation of federal gun law to be pursued with all the forgivness, mercy, compassion, and tenderness of a bull shark.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

- What this means:
Concoct a list of every possible medical condition, drug, or mental health issue that can be used as rational to deny sale of /seize weapons.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

- What this means:
Pressure to coerce firearm manufacturers into neutering products. May be a framework for mandatory regulations down the road. Might also be a womb for litigation should the companies ignore these "suggestions."

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

- What this means:
Re-writing the Affordable Care Act to remove language inserted by Harry Reid w/regards to health records. This should not be possible through executive order. Unless congress will impeach, and senate will convict, will happen regardless.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

- What this means:
Informing doctors they have permission to ignore the law. Should make for plenty of fun litigation down the road. Any Dr. taking this advice had better have insurance up to date and attorney on speed-dial.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

- What this means:
Unless these "officers" are armed, consider them nothing more than feel-good C.Y.A anti-gun propagandists. As well as mandatory reporters if they can coax a child into talking about parental firearms.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

- What this means:
C.Y.A. Dog squat. Will provide a nice excuse to militarize the various federal agencies though. Expect more RFP’s for Dept. Edu Remington 870′s.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

- What this means:
Expand medical coverage to a positively dazzling number of mental health ailments. Which will be recorded, and used as a reason to deny/seize firearms.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

- What this means:
Provides a pretext to implement 1, 2, 3, 16, 17, 20, 23. Legality questionable. Will be challenged the second someone has proper standing. In several years.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

- What this means:
See 21.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

- What this means:
Demonize and propagandize a wide swath of mental issues, illnesses, and medications to squelch the outcry when they start disarming people.

[midnight rambler]

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

Extrapolation: when a 'private seller' approaches a FFL to sell a gun, 'they' will take a very close look to see whether or not that seller should 'have permission' to be owning the gun he/she is bringing in for a sell, but also to check to see if they should be owning ANY guns. Nice.

These 23 EOs were an awesome and comprehensive work of very subtle incrementalism.

[ArizonaDad]

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

He's going to require a universal hack on every gun safe so that when the SWAT team bursts into the wrong house and they can't convince the guy to open the safe for them, they will have to go through the courts to get into your gun safe.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Their ace in the hole is when they declare martial law. I wouldn't be surprised if that is very soon, given the government's closeness to default. We will likely see a very big false flag incident that will allow them to declare martial law and take care of all the opposition they have.



Hatha

[midnight rambler]

Their ace in the hole is when they declare martial law. I wouldn't be surprised if that is very soon, given the government's closeness to default. We will likely see a very big false flag incident that will allow them to declare martial law and take care of all the opposition they have.



Hatha

Right, expect some incident which creates an 'emergency'.

[mick silver]

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

He's going to require a universal hack on every gun safe so that when the SWAT team bursts into the wrong house and they can't convince the guy to open the safe for them, they will have to go through the courts to get into your gun safe.
when they come to look in your safe there going to take what you have at that point

[madfranks]

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

He's going to require a universal hack on every gun safe so that when the SWAT team bursts into the wrong house and they can't convince the guy to open the safe for them, they will have to go through the courts to get into your gun safe.


when they come to look in your safe there going to take what you have at that point


Or, like how the TSA requires special locks on travelers bags that they can open and re-close, they will mandate new gun safes be "law enforcement compliant" which means they can unlock and open them at their own discretion.