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chad
18th January 2013, 08:02 AM
up next, people suing you because "you lowered their property value." or, even better, firearms being outlawed so as not to decrease the tax base. and since schools are funded by property taxes, if you own guns you don't care about education.

they are really going full retard on this one.

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http://realestate.aol.com/blog/2013/01/16/gun-permits-home-values/?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl23%7Csec1_lnk1%26pLid%3D258292

The Journal News' gun map (http://www.lohud.com/interactive/article/20121223/NEWS01/121221011/Map-Where-gun-permits-your-neighborhood-?nclick_check=1) highlighting the names and addresses of gun permit owners across New York's Westchester and Rockland Counties is not only calling into question the safety of those homeowners (http://realestate.aol.com/blog/2013/01/14/home-the-journal-news-gun-map/), but it has also sparked concerns regarding its effect on real estate values in such "gun-concentrated" areas. According to Realtors across the country, the knowledge that a neighborhood is populated heavily with gun permit holders may cause househunters to think twice about buying in that area.

New York-based Realtor Jason Saft predicts the hesitation will come predominantly from house hunters with families. According to Saft, in high-security, low-crime locales (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/29/nyregion/414-homicides-is-a-record-low-for-new-york.html?_r=0) like New York City, owning firearms for self-protection purposes is non-essential -- a fact that might have concerned house hunters questioning their potential neighbors' reasons for ownership.

"It might not matter as much if you're single, or a couple, or you don't have kids. But if you have three children, for example, you probably wouldn't want to buy a house in a neighborhood where there are a number of registered gun owners," Saft told AOL Real Estate. "It just puts thoughts you don't want to think in your head."

His sentiments are echoed by Yonkers-based Realtor Gladys Molina. Molina added that the greater issue is not so much the presence of gun permit holders in any given neighborhood, but the level of concentration.

http://www.blogcdn.com/realestate.aol.com/blog/media/2013/01/01bxriver.jpgAcross Westchester, Rockland and Putnam Counties, for example, there are approximately 44,000 individuals with gun licenses. That's one out of every 23 adults, a figure that most likely isn't a deal breaker for the average house hunter. But consider the snapshot of one short section of Bronx River Road in Yonkers. The Journal News' interactive map reveals that there are 14 registered gun permit holders between the addresses of 755 Bronx River Road and 840 Bronx River Road. This figure may give house hunters pause.

"One or two gun owners in a small area, I could let go," Molina told AOL Real Estate. "But 14 gun owners in one small area? Personally, even I would have to think twice about living there. I would worry about my safety."

According to Denver-based Realtor Dave Ness, this could potentially translate into a decline in real estate values in such neighborhoods. The value of homes for sale in areas with a high proportion of gun permit holders, Ness said, might plummet if the neighborhood were stigmatized as a "gun-concentrated" area.

But this still remains highly unlikely, Ness concedes: As of now, unless buyers actively seek that information through Freedom of Information requests (http://realestate.aol.com/blog/2012/12/28/how-to-find-out-who-owns-a-gun-permit-steps-you-can-take-to-lea/) (which they can do only if the state has a gun registry), the number of gun owners in a particular neighborhood or street remains largely unknown. And according to Ness, many house hunters won't take the steps to find out if their future neighbors might own guns.

"If a law was passed whereby real estate agents were required to disclose to buyers how many gun owners there were on a particular street or in a particular area, then it would likely become a self-fulfilling prophecy -- producing fear in the buyer," Ness told AOL Real Estate. "That would more than likely drive values lower, or slow the rate of sales."

Read more from AOL's series, "Guns in America (http://www.dailyfinance.com/guns-in-america/?ncid=crosssellusdail00000001)":
Murder by Numbers: Digging Into the Data of America's Gun Culture (http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/12/19/murder-by-numbers-digging-into-the-data-of-americas-gun-cultur/)
Guns-To-Work Laws Proliferate, Despite Mass Shootings and Employer Opposition (http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2012/12/16/guns-to-work-laws-spread-despite-mass-shootings-employer-opposi/)
Why Batman Doesn't Use Firearms (http://www.comicsalliance.com/2013/01/17/batman-guns-gun-culture/)

Cebu_4_2
18th January 2013, 08:25 AM
AOL huh?

mamboni
18th January 2013, 09:18 AM
So people are running over eachother trying to buy homes in Harlem and East New York?

Funny thing is, I bought my home where it is because most of the neighbors were either ex-military or hunter gun owners. Go figure!

chad
18th January 2013, 09:29 AM
me too. i even picked the state based on firearm ownership.

collector
18th January 2013, 09:34 AM
"One or two gun owners in a small area, I could let go," Molina told AOL Real Estate. "But 14 gun owners in one small area? Personally, even I would have to think twice about living there. I would worry about my safety."

So apparently this genius believes that gun owners who go above and beyond and actually register their guns with the state, are a threat to her safety. Logic goes out the window and of course news sources like AOL.com are more than happy to broadcast her musings for all to see.

collector
18th January 2013, 09:36 AM
me too. i even picked the state based on firearm ownership.

Same here ! You can shoot an intruder in your house in NY and go to jail for doing so, or you can live in another state, shoot the intruder and have nothing to worry about. Seems like a no-brainer for me

chad
18th January 2013, 09:40 AM
"One or two gun owners in a small area, I could let go," Molina told AOL Real Estate. "But 14 gun owners in one small area? Personally, even I would have to think twice about living there. I would worry about my safety."

So apparently this genius believes that gun owners who go above and beyond and actually register their guns with the state, are a threat to her safety. Logic goes out the window and of course news sources like AOL.com are more than happy to broadcast her musings for all to see.

i have more than 14 long guns alone. :D

collector
18th January 2013, 09:47 AM
But do you really "need" all those guns? ;D

Libertytree
18th January 2013, 09:54 AM
What a bullshit filler story! AOL is lame and getting lamer apparently because this story is so shallow and unresearched that it deserves no creedance whatsoever.

chad
18th January 2013, 10:01 AM
But do you really "need" all those guns? ;D

yes! :D

midnight rambler
18th January 2013, 10:43 AM
AOHELL huh?

fixed it

mamboni
18th January 2013, 10:47 AM
i have more than 14 long guns alone. :D

My neighbor owns 500 guns. Great guy - salt of the earth - so generous with his time and money. He deserves to be on the cover of TIME, not the illegal alien non-citizen Marxist-Communist Manchurian-candidate POTUS.

gunDriller
18th January 2013, 10:51 AM
So people are running over eachother trying to buy homes in Harlem and East New York?

Funny thing is, I bought my home where it is because most of the neighbors were either ex-military or hunter gun owners. Go figure!

the 100+ Street area of Oakland has a lot of felons etc. not allowed to own guns.

so they would show up on this map as a "low-gun" area.

does anybody really think the 100th Street to 120th Street area of Oakland is low gun ?


they are really scraping for material to run articles like this.

sirgonzo420
18th January 2013, 11:14 AM
My neighbor owns 500 guns. Great guy - salt of the earth - so generous with his time and money. He deserves to be on the cover of TIME, not the illegal alien non-citizen Marxist-Communist Manchurian-candidate POTUS.

What's his GSUS handle?

mamboni
18th January 2013, 11:21 AM
What's his GSUS handle?

He's not a member AFAIK. I'll ask him.

chad
18th January 2013, 11:22 AM
He's not a member AFAIK. I'll ask him.

sign him up!

joboo
18th January 2013, 11:37 AM
It's a bit like the swimming pool argument. Some people will hate the house, others will love it.

Glass
18th January 2013, 03:34 PM
According to Saft, in high-security, low-crime locales (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/29/nyregion/414-homicides-is-a-record-low-for-new-york.html?_r=0) like New York City, owning firearms for self-protection purposes is non-essential -- a fact that might have concerned house hunters questioning their potential neighbors' reasons for ownership.

Is New York a low crime area? Hmmm.

Neuro
19th January 2013, 05:31 AM
Is New York a low crime area? Hmmm.
Yes, only crimes of Goyim on Jews, are counted...

mick silver
21st January 2013, 09:44 AM
dam i hope so . i would like to buy some more land . yahoooooooooooo

Ponce
21st January 2013, 01:47 PM
Now they want a new bill where everyone with a firearm must have firearm insurance in case an innocent person gets shot, does the same thing applys to the cops?........I don't think sol.

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