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Glass
22nd January 2013, 08:03 PM
This is an Irish challenge. From a legal technicality stand point I find this and associated topics interesting. Been the main focuse of my legal investigations for the last 6 years.


Validity of promissory notes challenged in High Court

A legal challenge to the Government's use of promissory notes to fund some banks has opened in the High Court.

The case is being taken by David Hall, who is director of the Irish Mortgage Holders Organisation.

Outlining Mr Hall's case, John Rogers SC said the primary issue was the validity of the promissory notes and actions taken on foot of them.

He said the 2010 Act that established the notes required the Minister for Finance to secure a Dáil vote in respect of the promissory notes issued, although this was not done.

Without the vote, Mr Rogers said the notes were void.

He also said the Act only provided for financial assistance of this type until 2017, but the notes are due to pay out what he called "substantial tranches of billions" until 2031.

Mr Rogers said if it was the case that the minister did not require a Dáil vote, then the Act was unconstitutional. The promissory notes provided for €31bn to be put into Anglo Irish Bank, Irish Nationwide and EBS. The case is expected to last four days and is before the President of the High Court, Nicholas Kearns.

Link (http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0122/363897-promissory-note-court/)

I especially find the comment about "on foot of them" interesting. I don't know what it means yet but I'm sure it's something interesting. As there is no money, everything is a promise to pay. The big deception is that anyone can create a promise to pay and thus discharge their obligations.

palani
23rd January 2013, 06:27 AM
The big deception is that anyone can create a promise to pay and thus discharge their obligations.

The world of OPiuM (other peoples money) creates economy. Economy creates jobs. Jobs employ millions/billions of people. Employed people pay for government services with more OPiuM. The system needs to be regulated closely so that it doesn't overheat or the flip side when too many people become aware of the mechanics of the system and opt out of it.

This financial dream world exists as a plane or overlay. Whenever you touch it a little sticks to you. Touch it many places and pretty soon you are entirely stuck. Think of it as a sticky mouse trap for living beings. Only colorable people can exist in this fictional environment. Certainly there are no living men or women who can survive the experience. They become zombie-like and instead of feeding of real food they rely on the false promises of politicians for nutrition. In a sense they all become Carl.