Poll: Will AWB 2.0 become law?

[madfranks]

Simple question, yes or no. I don't think there's enough support in the senate to pass this right now. I can't imagine any repubs voting for it, and there are some democrats against it too. I don't like that they're openly trying to ban them, but I don't think it'll happen. So, what do you think?

[midnight rambler]

Probably not, but the 'universal background check' appears to have a good chance, and that is every bit as bad.

[mick silver]

i voted no , but they will write a bill and hide it later in that bill then pass it . it seam like that how they do thing now

[collector]

What does the universal background check do? Does it mean that all private sales have to go through a nics check or does it have to do with gun owner registration?

[osoab]

Does it matter?

They will do what they want.

We will do what we believe is necessary.

[EE_]

Probably not, but the 'universal background check' appears to have a good chance, and that is every bit as bad.

The next step in background checks, is to tie it to someone's expert opinion of your mental heath. That could mean using medical records of what medications, maybe any medications, you might be taking.

[EE_]

What does the universal background check do? Does it mean that all private sales have to go through a nics check or does it have to do with gun owner registration?

It would mean any weapon you wish to sell would have to be presented to an FFL dealer for documentation and approval of the sale. A backdoor registration. That's what I think it means.

[collector]

Sounds like a law that could be easily ignored although I guess they could set up sting operations and catch people that don't follow procedure

[madfranks]

Probably not, but the 'universal background check' appears to have a good chance, and that is every bit as bad.

That's what they call the "gun show loophole" right? So private party gun sales would become a federal crime? There is a lot of infrastructure existing that facilitates private party gun sales (online and in old fashioned classifieds), and lots of people who are used to being able to freely buy and sell their guns. I imagine a whole mass of people will ignore this, either out of ignorance or defiance, instantly becoming federal criminals for illegal trafficking in arms. This would be very easy for TPTB to trump up as terroristic behavior and any number of things could happen to them then...

[EE_]

Sounds like a law that could be easily ignored although I guess they could set up sting operations and catch people that don't follow procedure

You can bet on sting operations. It would impossible to stop sales between friends and family, but it would shut down websites like armslist.com, newspaper classifieds and people standing outside gun shows.

[mick silver]

it will just drive the trades underground .

[EE_]

One thing I would be concerned about, are laws that restrict guns from being allowed to pass through state borders.
A new federal law may make it mandatory to have any weapons registered and approved by law enforcement before you can travel with a firearm. You would have to show your paperwork if stopped for any reason.
I really wouldn't like that!

[EE_]

it will just drive the trades underground .

It would stop you from selling to a stranger for sure.

[Ponce]

I feel sorry for all those who brag about buying this gun or that gun and as how many they bought.....all those guns are register and someday they will loose them and even those with unregistered guns that post anything about them on the internet are telling the Feds that they have guns, to me that's as good as being registered..........I am lucky in that I no longer believe in guns so that I don't have any.

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[OutDorsMan]

Eventually, yeah. After the next FF, [/sarc] there will no longer be any doubt that the AWB is just the medicine that Americans need. [\sarc]

[midnight rambler]

That's what they call the "gun show loophole" right? So private party gun sales would become a federal crime? There is a lot of infrastructure existing that facilitates private party gun sales (online and in old fashioned classifieds), and lots of people who are used to being able to freely buy and sell their guns. I imagine a whole mass of people will ignore this, either out of ignorance or defiance, instantly becoming federal criminals for illegal trafficking in arms. This would be very easy for TPTB to trump up as terroristic behavior and any number of things could happen to them then...

Making it a Federal felony with a minimum sentencing guideline would have a chilling effect.

'Asking permission' amounts to the end of our RKBA protection/guarantee, nothing less.

[chad]

"Put simply, we cannot allow the rights of a few to override the safety of all. That is not the America that our founding fathers envisioned. And that is not the America I want my children and grandchildren to live in."

- diane feinstein, january 25, 2013

[midnight rambler]

"Put simply, we cannot allow the rights of a few to override the safety of all. That is not the America that our founding fathers envisioned. And that is not the America I want my children and grandchildren to live in."

- diane feinstein, january 25, 2013

What about MY safety you fucking swine??

[chad]

after they get this passed, they can move on to all of those other pesky amendments.

[madfranks]

after they get this passed, they can move on to all of those other pesky amendments.

All those other pesky amendments are already compromised to the effect of being useless anyway, so what exactly is the 2nd amendment protecting anymore?