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Glass
28th January 2013, 11:28 PM
So a man takes the wifes surname after marriage. Gets new passport, CCs, Licence etc. The DMV comes back to him a year later and says he got the licence by Fraud.

The reason? Men cannot take the wife's family name. Now he's all upset like a progressive. Being descriminated against.


Florida man accused of fraud after name change in 'act of love'

MIAMI (Reuters) - A newly married South Florida man who opted to take his wife's last name is fighting the state's Department of Motor Vehicles after it suspended his driving license on grounds of fraud.


Real estate investor Lazaro Sopena offered to change his name following his 2011 marriage to Hanh Dinh in order to help his wife's Vietnamese family perpetuate their family surname.


Shortly after their marriage, Lazaro Dinh obtained a new passport and Social Security card and changed his bank account and credit cards before applying to update his drivers license.


"It was an act of love. I have no particular emotional ties to my last name," said Dinh, 40, who was born in Cuba and came to the United States at the age of 11 in 1984.
His wife, Hanh Dinh, 32, has four sisters and came to the U.S. in 1990, after a family odyssey involving living in refugee camps and being separated from her father for 7 years.


Lazaro Dinh was initially issued a new license after presenting his marriage certificate at his local DMV office and paying a $20 fee, just as newly married women are required to do when they adopt their husband's name.
"It was easy. When the government issues you a new passport you figure you're fine," he said.
More than a year later Dinh received a letter from Florida's DMV last December accusing him of "obtaining a driving license by fraud," and advising him that his license would be suspended at the end of the month. Ironically, it was addressed to Lazaro Dinh.
"I thought it was a mistake," he said.


But when he called the state DMV office in Tallahassee he said he was told he had to go to court first in order to change his name legally, a process that takes several months and has a $400 filing fee.
When he explained he was changing his name due to marriage, he was told 'that only works for women,'" he said.
"Apparently the state of Florida clings to the out-dated notion that treats women as an extension of a man," said Lazaro's lawyer, Spencer Kuvin, with Cohen & Kuvin in West Palm Beach. While it was unusual for a man to seek to be considered an extension on his wife, Dinh's case raised important issues for gay marriage, he noted.


"If Lazaro isn't allowed to change his name, what is going to happen when a gay couple seeks a name change?"
Only a few states have made their marriage name change policy gender neutral, Kuvin said. In Florida's case it has no law, although the DMV's website does not specify gender.
According to Kuvin, 9 states enable a man to change his name upon marriage: California, New York, Hawaii, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Oregon, Iowa, Georgia and North Dakota.


The Florida DMV did not respond to a request for comment.
Following a DMV hearing, Dinh was issued a Final Order on January 14 confirming that his license had been properly suspended for fraud.
He is now appealing that order but has not dared get behind the wheel.
"I don't understand. I'm being treated like a highway criminal," said Dinh, who said he has a perfect driving record and now is struggling to carry out his job, begging his wife and friends for rides.
(In 10th paragraph, this story corrects quote to read "women" instead of "men")

link (http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/offbeat/15978368/florida-man-accused-of-fraud-after-name-change-in-act-of-love/)

Shami-Amourae
29th January 2013, 12:06 AM
Wow what an idiot. He got married. He's going to have to pay out half of his paycheck to this bitch in a year or so.

Was the story about something else?

Glass
29th January 2013, 12:47 AM
yes unfortunately the guys problems didn't stop with getting married. Anyway interesting that he can't take the wifes family name. Best they could hope for is a hyphenated name for her. Otherwise parents should have had a boy, although don't know the family background in detail. Refugee camps' 7 years separation of family. Could have had a son and lost him from the turmoil.

palani
29th January 2013, 04:18 AM
The surname is commercial. Best lose it entirely and just identify yourself with the given name.

There would be no birth documentation for Lazaro Dinh. Think of Texas ranch law and the fate of an unbranded maverick .... it belongs to the first one to lay a brand on it.

Mr Dinh accidentally stumbled onto means to escape the commercial system but is not intelligent enough to connect the dots.

Cebu_4_2
29th January 2013, 04:51 AM
Jews change their names all the time and it's just fine, but if your a gentile not so much.

Neuro
29th January 2013, 06:21 AM
I think that the wife's surname is very common among Vietnamese, so I doubt this is the reason... Maybe he tried to get rid of debts to banks? Or something else in his past?

http://scamfraudalert.org/2012/10/25/ftc-vs-prime-legal-plans-dba-lazaro-dinh-aka-mario-lazaro-sope/

mamboni
29th January 2013, 07:31 AM
The Dinhs are the Smiths and Jones of Vietnam. LOL

Ponce
29th January 2013, 08:36 AM
The couple who bought my home in CA when I moved to OR were aje Japanese and himMexican and his name was "Jose Garcia Wong" ahahahaahahaha........the funny part of this is that Wong is a Chinese surname and not Japanese.

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palani
29th January 2013, 02:44 PM
Balance has been restored to the universe and nobody now needs to know the importance of the surname to commerce.

http://news.yahoo.com/florida-mans-license-restored-state-drops-fraud-allegation-202743787.html

Florida man's license restored as state drops fraud allegation


MIAMI (Reuters) - Florida's Department of Motor Vehicles said on Tuesday it had lifted the suspension of a South Florida man's driving license after it accused him of fraud for adopting his wife's last name.

"It was a mistake on our part," Florida DMV spokesperson Kirsten Olsen-Doolan said. "The suspension will be lifted."

The DMV stripped Boca Raton real estate investor Lazaro Dinh, 40, of his license in December after he changed his last name from Sopena to help his wife's Vietnamese family perpetuate their family surname.

His wife, Hanh Dinh, 32, has four sisters and came to the United States in 1990, after a family odyssey involving living in refugee camps and being separated from her father for seven years.

Lazaro Dinh was initially issued a new license with his wife's last name after presenting his 2011 marriage certificate at his local DMV office, just as newly married women are required to do when they adopt their husbands' names.

More than a year later, he received a letter from Florida's DMV accusing him of "obtaining a driving license by fraud" and advising him that his license would be suspended.

When he explained to the DMV that he was changing his name due to marriage, he was told "that only works for women," Dinh said. The suspension was upheld in an order issued on January 14 after a hearing in which Dinh produced his marriage certificate and a new U.S. passport with the updated name.

Olsen-Doolan said the DMV had spoken to Dinh to let him know that his license had been mistakenly suspended and "either a man or a woman can change their name" on their driving license.

"We are doing some training to make sure understand that it can be done either way," she added.

Dinh phoned Reuters to say he had been issued a new license on Tuesday after presenting his passport at a DMV office.

"I'm still bothered that it took so long and it took so much brain damage to fix. Now I want to change the law so it's clear for the next man."

Dinh's lawyer, Spencer Kuvin of Cohen & Kuvin in West Palm Beach, said that while it was unusual for a man to adopt his wife's name, Dinh's case raised important issues for the future of gay marriage.

Only a few states have made their marriage name change policy gender neutral, Kuvin said. Florida has no law, although the DMV's website does not specify gender.

According to Kuvin, nine states have laws that specifically allow a man to change his name upon marriage: California, New York, Hawaii, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Oregon, Iowa, Georgia and North Dakota.

Glass
29th January 2013, 05:27 PM
It's interesting. I met a guy today who's name is B. Thats it. Nothing more. Just a normal man. I didn't get a chance to quiz him on this. I suspect it was a play on something, maybe an in joke. Who knows.

Yes the surname is important. In the olden days there used to be a saying "put everything in the wifes name". This was to protect the family and it's assets from commercial lien or claim. After women became commercial entities through their adoption of sufferage this was no longer safe to do. So the state went from being unable to put a claim on any family property to being able to split the family assets 50/50 with the wife. Some times they will take as little as 30% but they claw that back with action against the male party.