Will Robots Eventually Steal All Of Our Jobs? ............. V

[Ponce]

Like I said before: one of the reasons that we were able to recover from the deppresion of 1929 was WWII where everybody had a job......but now days we are buying the parts from overseas manf and using robots to assebled them here.

Long article...go to link for full article.
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Tuesday, February 5, 2013Rise Of The Droids: Will Robots Eventually Steal All Of Our Jobs?


Will a robot take your job? We have entered a period in human history when technology is advancing at an exponential rate. In some ways, this has been a great blessing for humanity. For example, I am absolutely blown away by all of the things that my little iPod can do. But on the other hand, all of this technology is eliminating millions upon millions of high paying jobs.

In the past, I have written extensively about how millions of American jobs have been sent to the other side of the world, but now we may be moving into a time when workers all over the planet will be steadily losing jobs to super-efficient robots. For employers, robots provide a lot of advantages to human workers. Robots never complain, they never get tired, they never need vacation, they never show up late, they never waste time of Facebook, they don't need any health benefits and there are a whole lot of rules, regulations and taxes that you must deal with when you hire a human worker.

In the past, robots were exceedingly expensive, and that limited their usefulness in the workplace, but as you will see later in this article that is rapidly changing. As robots continue to become even more advanced and even less expensive, will there eventually come a point where the "human worker" is virtually obsolete?

Of course I can hear the objections already. Many of you will insist that even though automation has always eliminated jobs in the past, it has also always created new jobs that were even better. For instance, once upon a time most of the U.S. population worked on farms, but thanks to automation now hardly any of us do.

But what happens when we get to the point where super-intelligent robots are more efficient at everything?

What will be left for "human workers" to do?



And if human workers are no longer needed for most tasks, what will their role in society be?
Personally, I still complain about self-service check-in kiosks at airports and self-checkout lanes at supermarkets, but most people seem to have accepted them. There are even many bank branches now that don't have any humans in them at all. The number of jobs where a human worker is absolutely "required" is dwindling all the time.

And a lot of the jobs that are disappearing thanks to advances in technology are fairly high paying jobs. In fact, one recent study of employment data from 20 countries discovered that "almost all the jobs disappearing are in industries that pay middle-class wages, ranging from $38,000 to $68,000."
As I mentioned earlier, in the past robots were simply far too expensive to perform most tasks. So human workers had an advantage.

But that advantage is disappearing right in front of our eyes. For example, one company has produced a new robot called "Baxter" that only costs $22,000. The following is from an article about Baxter in the MIT Technology Review...

Baxter was conceived by Rodney Brooks, the Australian roboticist and artificial-intelligence expert who left MIT to build a $22,000 humanoid robot that can easily be programmed to do simple jobs that have never been automated before.
Eventually, the goal is to produce versions of Baxter that will perform tasks even more cheaply than Chinese workers do...

Brooks’s company, Rethink Robotics, says the robot will spark a 'renaissance' in American manufacturing by helping small companies compete against low-wage offshore labor. Baxter will do that by accelerating a trend of factory efficiency that’s eliminated more jobs in the U.S. than overseas competition has. Of the approximately 5.8 million manufacturing jobs the U.S. lost between 2000 and 2010, according to McKinsey Global Institute, two-thirds were lost because of higher productivity and only 20 percent moved to places like China, Mexico, or Thailand.

[midnight rambler]

Impossible for robots to do craftsman/tradesman jobs, never going to happen.

[Shami-Amourae]

It's coming. As long as there is no collapse before then.

The end goal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBeoreJr4Yc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeboqg4t9vs

[vacuum]

Impossible for robots to do craftsman/tradesman jobs, never going to happen.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehnzfGP6sq4

[midnight rambler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehnzfGP6sq4

Perhaps it can 'build' a 'house' but *any* robot will NEVER be able to do 'hands on' while using discretion based upon reasoning and previous experiences - I don't care what anyone says. Anyone who thinks so is whacked.

And FUCK transhumanism.

[Hypertiger]

Once you get to the point were you don't require people as soldiers you then instruct the robots to kill them off too.

The whole system is collapsing faster than all the rulers robots and all the rulers servants and slaves can put it back together again.

[Ponce]

I wasent talking about engine lathe machinist, or electricians, or dog trainer or anything like that.....as we all know robots are making cars, what use to take 1,200 people now takes on about 120 and most of them to fix or feed the machines...but
.... aventually they will be programed to do 90% of what we do.

V

[Shami-Amourae]

Impossible for robots to do craftsman/tradesman jobs, never going to happen.

Learn Blender (http://www.blender.org/download/get-blender/) if you want to keep your job.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmOFRkRjOSQ


And I strongly support this stuff. Hate me if you want, but it's also the field I work in and develop/contribute to. Technology is only bad if it's used by assholes to control people. If you look throughout history the more technology we have, the more free we are typically. This is how we defeat the establishment. It's the only way I believe. We need liberty minded people in this movement. If we have a sufficient number I firmly believe we will all have a very positive future ahead of us.

[Libertarian_Guard]

Once you get to the point were you don't require people as soldiers you then instruct the robots to kill them off too.

The whole system is collapsing faster than all the rulers robots and all the rulers servants and slaves can put it back together again.




http://i47.tinypic.com/wvzasl.jpg

[vacuum]

Perhaps it can 'build' a 'house' but *any* robot will NEVER be able to do 'hands on' while using discretion based upon reasoning and previous experiences - I don't care what anyone says. Anyone who thinks so is whacked.

And FUCK transhumanism.

I agree they won't be able to do that type of stuff, but what could happen is that they may offer cheaper alternatives than what is traditionally done. For example, instead of building a duplicate of the house you currently live in, instead you will get a totally different kind of house. Instead of robots replacing chefs to make the food you currently eat, your food will be replaced by something that they are able to make. Instead of robot police driving around and booking people, the laws will instead change to make them robot-enforceable.

It's similar to how the internet used to allow a few new things to be done in a novel way, but now new services are being specifically tailored to use the internet.

[Hypertiger]

The top own the system and can increase the demands until you can't supply them and collapse.

The top live off the yield from the bottom.

The system is global...All the Billions of slaves and servants below you supply all the power you have to sustain your fantasies of escape from it.

The top can see threats rising up the hierarchy long before the threats see the annihilators sent to deal with them.

The global system is the technology used by people to control people...To demand the bottom to supply the top with the power they desire to sustain their positive outlook of the future.

It's why civilizations keep inflating up to maximum potential and then deflating to maximum potential.

Technology that looks good ends up looking bad once the logical conclusion is reached when the power demanded by the reasonable assumption becomes greater than the supply.

Whether people are chopping down trees faster than they regrow or robots are...when the trees run out...It's the end of the positive phase of the lie and the beginning of the negative.

Where you find out that what you thought was a good idea was actually a bad idea...Too late of course...the lifting of the veil.

[Sparky]

I agree they won't be able to do that type of stuff, but what could happen is that they may offer cheaper alternatives than what is traditionally done. For example, instead of building a duplicate of the house you currently live in, instead you will get a totally different kind of house. Instead of robots replacing chefs to make the food you currently eat, your food will be replaced by something that they are able to make. Instead of robot police driving around and booking people, the laws will instead change to make them robot-enforceable.

It's similar to how the internet used to allow a few new things to be done in a novel way, but now new services are being specifically tailored to use the internet.

This is exactly what's been going on for decades, so expect the trend to continue. Robots and machines can already build inferior versions of just about everything. Finely crafted products which used to be the standard, for example furniture and clothing, are now a luxury for the well-to-do.

Automation has re-shaped employment, and society hasn't figured out a new paradigm to adapt to it. It's why we have an unemployment problem. It's not a bad thing because in many cases it saves personal time, but we need to re-think how to re-direct labor resources. We have millions of jobs that go unfilled, because we have tens of millions of people who have skills that are not in demand. We've done very little as a society to adapt.

[Sparky]

Even within hypertiger's master-slave paradigm, those at the top have been slow to re-structure how to deploy the slaves at the bottom in order to delay the collapse, or avoid revolution.

[osoab]

They took our jobs!

[General of Darkness]

They took our jobs!

Great minds think alike.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uORAyORWRAA

[osoab]

Great minds think alike.




That might be stretching it a little.

[Twisted Titan]

But at the end of the day profit from all this automation is realized only when a HUMAN unit completes the circut.

Unless we have a sustainable consumption part we will enventually self canibalize.


That is high flying darlings of Wall Street like Apple & Mercedese are coming out of those Ivory Towers to build products that the local prole can purchase

A superbowl comercial was hawking a Mercedes starting at under 30?
iCrap that is overly priced and utterly useless is not being sold to "expand market share"

And profits are still in the toilet and will continue to get worse......we have passed the economic event horizion

[Hypertiger]

Revolution againt Truth is what the system is always trying to accomplish and fails to.

Persuasion followed by force and then annihilation.

Over and over again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros

the snake has to grow faster than it's consumed or it self destructs.

Of course the system takes more power than it gives to sustain it's existance...That is why Truth can't be defeated...since Truth is the supply of power and the lie or snake taking more power than it gives is the demand for power.

It looks like a wave...At the start it's slow...but the longer you take more power than you give...The more power that is required to sustain the positive phase of the wave...until the demand for power becomes infinite...at that point the demand for power requires a greater than infinite supply of power to defeat Truth and obtain absolute power over all and everything.

Since this is impossible...the lie self destructs.

The collapse.

There is never a lasting victory over lies while the war against Truth has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

of course those that embrace the just think positive ignore negative religion say.

if at first you don't succeed defeating Truth...try try again.

and then the survivors of the collapse choose to do it all over again...Better than last time.

So far that has been the cycle of history according to the written records of the cycle governed by the take more power than is given equation.

inflation followed by deflation of the wave that all within the system are the serfboard the top rides the wave on.

[joboo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtSejMmsj-0

[Ponce]

In the future there will be 4 billion less people so that the machines will come handy...for those still here.

V

[Hypertiger]

the plan is to eliminate more demand for power in relation to the supply of power than that.

To have a controlled collapse you need resources...only about 25% of the oil has been exploited the past 100 years or so...that leaves plenty to power the collapse down to control it.
from 1944 to 2008 the global system has demanded an 8% growth rate.

teh doubling time or amount of time where the demand for power doubles is 9 years.

So basically every 9 years from 1944 to 2008 the demand for power or yield has doubled...the demand of the system for power to continue inflating or existing was 8% per year

At 1% demand for yield or growth per year it takes 69 years to reach the point at which the demand for power to sustain that doubles.

With a Billion people or survivors after the collapse to the maximum potential...It would take 490 years to do over what was done 1944 to 2008 which took 64 years.

[Santa]

Another thing to consider is that even as robots are becoming more like humans,
humans are becoming more like robots to fill the needs of the global Cyber Mind.

There will be a fusion... and much sooner than we care to believe. In fact, it's already occurring.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

You can't have a machine take "everyone's" job. It doesn't work like that.


If machines make everything, nobody will be able to buy anything.


Ignoring the slew of people needed to create, assemble, and fix the machines, you will always need to have people "employed" in the traditional sense because the goods created by the machines can only be purchased by a "wealthy" class of people.


If machines make all consumable goods, there won't be enough people to buy them to make this profitable. It's actually more profitable to have some waste and employ more humans, because these humans can then turn around and buy the goods being produced.


Machines augment, but they can't totally replace without drastically changing the produce/buy/sell cycle that we call global economics.


You need consumers.

[Hypertiger]

The Internet is a lie that looked positive at the start and enticed everyone to connect to the world wide web of lies for free.

But now it's turning negative...People are beginning to notice something is wrong compared to before the Internet existed.

Unless you just use the Internet to take more power than you give...Then it still looks positive.

Watch the movie forbidden planet...the krell machine is the global trade system and the Internet is the krell intelligence booster...garbage in equals garbage out.

Computers like people and all things in the Universe employ absolute self indulgent reason to solve the problem of existance.

The global system was computerized and the owners can now manipulate you all very easily.

The computerization or new economy in 1971 has sustained the Bretton woods global trade scheme for decades now and it's the only reason why the system has not already imploded.

It requires ever greater control to sustain the constant inflation of the global system for this long or sustain postponement of arrival at the logical conclusion of the take more power than you give equation for as long as possible.

Of course the postponement of the inevitable can't be sustained forever...

The futurists say the arrival at the singularity point is positive...But that is just where the collapse begins.

because as soon as you need Truth to sustain a lie...it's annihilated.

Of course at the start before everyone accepts the lie...it looks positive or appears to be Truth.

Or else people would not have been fooled...or sold.

Progress is always good considered good especially if the marketing of it promotes it as such and the audience believes it is good.

"For at least another hundred years we must pretend to ourselves and to every one that fair is foul and foul is fair; for foul is useful and fair is not. Avarice and usury and precaution must be our gods for a little longer still."--JOHN MAYNARD KEYNES (1930)

"The essential claim of sophistry is that the actual logical validity of an argument is irrelevant (if not non-existent); it is only the ruling of the audience which ultimately determines whether a conclusion is considered "true" or not. By appealing to the prejudices and emotions of the judges, one can garner favorable treatment for one's side of the argument and cause a factually false position to be ruled true."--Sophistry A.K.A Democracy or Truth by Popular delusion/concensus

[Hypertiger]

Yes the current system has the minority of absolute capitalists taking more power than they give from the Earth/Universe who are the net producers of power to supply the demand of the net consumers of power who take more than they give from the net producers and comprise the majority.

About 2% of the popluation of the USA are the net producers of food or Bottom while the other 98% are the net consumers of food or the top.

the top lives off the yield from the bottom.

and when the bottom reaches their maximum potential to supply the demand of the top...The system collapses.

robots are a great plan to replace high cost slaves that have rights to life, liberty, and happiness...but then you have to find something for all the previous slaves that are no longer needed by the system to do.

Like find a nice secluded place to kill themselves so that the slaves that are still enslaved don't have their feelings hurt and positive outlook of the future annihilated by the sight of all the corpses piling up.

food stamps are currently keeping those no longer required by the system employed alive to continue consuming...But this will eventaully become impossible to sustain at some point.

Eventually the net consumers of power from the global trade system will demand more than the net producers of power can supply to it...and the rate at which corpses are produced will sky rocket.

WW2 was the liquidation climax of the previous collapse of the global trade system.

[Serpo]

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Lantern-Robot-Cropped.jpg

[Santa]

Logic is the mechanical system implanted into the human mind to lead us to this new world cyborg state of enlightenment.
It's also known as Hell. Absolute bondage. Eternal death within artificial life. It'll be sold as Absolute Security forever. The populace will flock to it in droves as they always do for comfort, for security, for the promise of eternal life.

[Golden]

"It's just a ride" on "the big electron"


www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvz9uSK3zXo
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvz9uSK3zXo


www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TXqSJ9qDQ8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TXqSJ9qDQ8

"Losing My Religion"

Oh life, it's bigger
It's bigger than you
And you are not me
The lengths that I will go to
The distance in your eyes
Oh no, I've said too much
I've said enough

That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion
Trying to keep up with you
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no, I've said too much
I haven't said enough

I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

Every whisper
Of every waking hour
I'm choosing my confessions
Trying to keep an eye on you
Like a hurt, lost and blinded fool, fool
Oh no, I've said too much
I've said enough

Consider this
Consider this, the hint of the century
Consider this, the slip
That brought me to my knees, failed
What if all these fantasies come
Flailing around
Now I've said too much

I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

But that was just a dream
That was just a dream

That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion
Trying to keep up with you
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no, I've said too much
I haven't said enough

I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

But that was just a dream
Try, cry, why try
That was just a dream
Just a dream
Just a dream, dream

[Serpo]

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/02/how-to-freak-out-responsibly-about-the-rise-of-the-robots/272855/

[palani]

Define robot.

My definition ... ROBOT (noun), anyone who works for a FRN.

Are robots going to have all the jobs? Yes ... they already do because there are no jobs available that pay in gold or silver.

Now let's look at what a 'job' actually is.

JOB. (1) A low mean lucrative busy affair. (2) Petty, piddling work; a piece of chance work. [Johnson's Dictionary]


The dead need these type of jobs more than the living.

[Ponce]

After thinking about it I have decided that they will change the manf of anthing to a robot standard from a human standard... the same way that they changed the standard of welding the cars together.......if Mohama doesnt go to the mountain the the mountain must go to Mohama.

V

[vacuum]

The next world war will be a war on consciousness. Two distinct groups will form, and are forming now.

The first group are very close to robots and are driven by their intellect, which has been programmed to run one of a number of automation programs. Fundamentally these people are fearful and hence demand security. This security takes the form of a buffered, predictable, reality. The state provides certainty, both in the form of prepackaged intellectual programs as well as a social position.

They reject true reality and pay for the buffered artificial one with their life's energy. The ones at the top provide this service in exchange for this life energy. It's a win-win scenario.

However, a time has come where we all have to grow up and face true reality. Otherwise, we will be destroyed....it's simply not feasible to remain in diapers in the crib forever. There are many people who are facing reality, and they are the second group. There is a lot I could say about this group, but the main thing right now is that they directly threaten both the existing controllers at the top as well as the ones who refuse to face reality. They threaten the entire existing system, basically. From the controllers' perspective, they no longer require their services and in fact are now equal to them. From the robots' perspective, they destroy the artificial reality in which they wish to live in.

This is where the blinding collectivist rage against those who do not wish to comply comes from. The controllers will institute more and more draconian control measures, and the masses will allow it and ask for it. This is the war on the conscious, which is deliberately coming from both sides. In this way the non-conformers can be identified and eliminated from society so that the old paradigm can continue.

This is where the whole mark of the beast thing comes in, which coincidences with the cyborg/transhumanist/singularity event. The ones who accept it desire artificial reality, and those who don't accept it become their enemy. That is why they will kill anyone who doesn't accept it. Of course the controllers will come up with some collectivist reasoning fed to those in the artificial reality to guide their actions, as they have always done. Naturally only the controllers and the conscious who are being persecuted will see what's actually happening.

[vacuum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp_HuyNKG3k#!

[vacuum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLB2WuPMel0

[gunDriller]

Impossible for robots to do craftsman/tradesman jobs, never going to happen.

in a way those jobs are "substituted out".

for example, if you buy something at IKEA, probably it was produced using hard automation or robotics.

it's not the same as a cabinet made by a craftsman, just a melamine/ particle board substitute.

[Serpo]

The next world war will be a war on consciousness. .

Having consciousness and maintaining it is a war in the way that there so many ways that they seem to suck people into being part or full zombified .

Consciousness can become a burning pain in the brain when we see the full reality of the injustice,corruption,and sheer evil all pervasive though the controlling medium.

This pain is true pain and not some superficial made up one.

Its not about intellect its about truth......let the robots work in truth and intellect has little meaning here. More like being true too yourself and others will be the norm and this may require a higher realisation rather than intellect.

[kiffertom]

anybody ever read player piano by kurt vonnegut?

[singular_me]

eventually well have to embrace a money-free system, but if we cannot understand why power is inherently evil, then the fate of mankind is sealed....

soon or late, everything is bound to come to an end... and money as we know it will not escape this outcome.

the question is philosophical and spiritual above all

[Santa]

Meet HRP-4C. It figures that the Japanese are building sexy underage female robots.

http://youtu.be/sNSS6Skd5ns

http://youtu.be/LjbyxekEo6s

We are ze robots... Check out Einstein.

http://youtu.be/7AGgUYUl4qE

And to think, this is only what's on Youtube. Imagine what's being done in secret cybernetic labs around the world.

[vacuum]

Crazy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SP7dXxipes&t=0m10s

[dys]

I've always thought that the notion of robots replacing jobs is overstated. Try to get someone on the phone at the registry of motor vehicles, wait 2 and a half hours, and explain to me why more people aren't being hired to serve the 'demand' even though government can clearly afford it. In fact you see this now in the private sector and it has become commonplace. There are major corporations out there that never even answer the phone. My take is that technology is just the scapegoat that is being used to justify the war on the middle class.

If there is one thing I've learned about the bad guys in all of these years of study, it's that they love to play games with supply and demand. Usually it involves creating fake scarcities. In this case, the fake scarcity is jobs.

dys

[Ponce]

Robots don't ask for a raise, don't belong to a union, don't go to the bathroom, don't go on coffee break, don't take holydays off, don't give you dirty looks........the ideal employees, all that they need is some electricity and some oil.

Why hell, my next wife will be a robot.....she cooks, clean, have sex, and all that she want's is a place to plug in her cord to recharge.

V

[vacuum]

Robots don't ask for a raise, don't belong to a union, don't go to the bathroom, don't go on coffee break, don't take holydays off, don't give you dirty looks........the ideal employees, all that they need is some electricity and some oil.

Why hell, my next wife will be a robot.....she cooks, clean, have sex, and all that she want's is a place to plug in her cord to recharge.

V

Welcome to the ‘Jobless’ U.S. Manufacturing Boom
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/App_Data/MediaFiles/5/6/4/%7B5649853F-1B85-44BC-AB6C-7F2134B87B39%7D03192013_baxter_robot_article.jpg


Recently, Chris Budnick, the CEO of Vanguard Plastics in Southington, Connecticut, needed a new employee for his 30-person factory to help with the 24-hour schedule. He could have done what managers and CEOs have done for decades: post a job ad, sort through hundreds of resumes, interview dozens of potential candidates, conduct second or third interviews and pay for background checks, then offer a wage of $9-$15 an hour and plus health benefits, a profit-sharing program, and more.


Instead, Budnick hired someone else – or something else. His name is Baxter, a humanoid robot from Rethink Robotics.

it continues: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2013/03/19/Welcome-to-the-Jobless-US-Manufacturing-Boom.aspx#page1

[vacuum]

Kevin Drum on why the robots will rise up and take all our jobshttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/14/kevin-drum-on-why-the-robots-will-rise-up-and-take-all-our-jobs/

You’re going to put those people out of work, and then you’re going to put out of work people whose work is more cognitively demanding, and it’s going to go up and up and up until machines can do anything a human can do, and do it without human supervision. They’ll repair themselves, and manufacture themselves, and do all the work.

So who has all the money? It’s whoever has the robots. And who has the robots? The people who have all the money. Today’s income inequality will be peanuts compared to income inequality then (http://www.forbes.com/sites/modeledbehavior/2013/05/13/inequality-in-the-robot-future/).

[Shami-Amourae]

Kevin Drum on why the robots will rise up and take all our jobs

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/14/kevin-drum-on-why-the-robots-will-rise-up-and-take-all-our-jobs/

You’re going to put those people out of work, and then you’re going to put out of work people whose work is more cognitively demanding, and it’s going to go up and up and up until machines can do anything a human can do, and do it without human supervision. They’ll repair themselves, and manufacture themselves, and do all the work.

So who has all the money? It’s whoever has the robots. And who has the robots? The people who have all the money. Today’s income inequality will be peanuts compared to income inequality then (http://www.forbes.com/sites/modeledbehavior/2013/05/13/inequality-in-the-robot-future/).

A new economic system will have to be born. I consider myself a Capitalist, like many of you do. This issue is that Capitalism is and will fail since of this automation. A new economic system is being born. I believe the Elite know these things and are simply getting humanity to be dumb and manageable enough so they can stay -in charge- while this technological revolution takes place.

I've said this before, but they new push will be to MERGE with the robots after the next 10 years I believe. Poorer people will be stuck to "mortal" bodies and we'll have a super race of cyborgs versus humans. This is why I keep bringing up the video game series Deus Ex (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?67179-Will-Robots-Eventually-Steal-All-Of-Our-Jobs-V&p=609575&viewfull=1#post609575).

[Ponce]

Vacuum? the objet of having a business is to make money for yourself and not for others......that's what I told a buyer who wnated lower and lower prices..... with robots working for you you will be driving a Royce intead of a Continental.

V

[vacuum]

Pole dancers beware

http://i.imgur.com/vHvP0sv.jpg

[Hypertiger]

Due to how the system works...even robots cost to sustain...Eventually you reach the point that not even robots can supply the demand for yield.

The Mathematics of exponential growth can not be sustained forever....robots just buy time.

taking more power than you give is the same as chopping down trees faster than they regrow.

Lets say you get to the maximum potential of axes to chop down trees to supply the demand for yield and begin collapsing.

but then you replace the axes with chain saws and the nyou can supply the demand for yield.

Even if you replace all the people that are chopping down trees faster than they regrow with robots.

All you do is buy a little more ever more limited time.

Eventually the trees run out and the whole thing collapses.

Whether you send people into the gold mines or robots...when the gold runs out...it's game over.

[Shami-Amourae]

The Universe is a big place. Why can't robots go out and mine on asteroids, Mars, Europa, and so on?

[Hypertiger]

There is the supply of power and the demand for it.

The demand always becomes greater than supply when you take more than you give or practice usury.

You all are absolute capitalistic entities...You all take more power than you give to sustain your existence.

That is what exponential growth does.

It is the path of least resistance in the Universe.

Taking more than you give is the same as chopping down trees faster than they regrow to sustain your continued existence.

The path of most resistance or responsible capitalism is to share power as equally as possible.

Or chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow.

What do you think is the best path to follow to sustain your continued existence?

taking more than you give of chopping down trees faster than they regrow or absolute capitalism

or

Sharing power as equally as possible or chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow or responsible capitalism.

Absolute capitalism is irresponsible capitalism.

All the animals are irresponsible capitalists.

Human beings are responsible capitalists.

You all have been socially engineered to think you are Human beings.

But you all sustain your existence like animals do.

You just believe you are what you think you are...

divide 100 by 3.

you get 33.333333333333333333 repeating forever

It is easier to split it by 34,33,33

With me getting 34 because I'm the splitter or the employer of the other two employees which are my servant and slave or maybe 37 32 21 is a more equitable share.

It's easy to take more power than you give.

It is hard to share power equally

In the Universe.

All life and everything follows the path of least resistance or mindless path by default in the Universe.

The purpose of life is to exist as long as possible and lumberjacks chop down trees faster than they regrow to sustain their existence.

You all are on the same path that water flowing to the sea and lighting bolts and ants follow to the logical conclusion of the take more power than you give equation.

[Ponce]

I wonder how they tax robots?......they don't pay income tax, social security, no 401 or nothing that the government can steal from them.....so.......how does the government makes a living out of them? they must hate robots, but at the same time they are the ones making all the new weapons for them........and they don't even need a security clearence.

V

[singular_me]

continued:

if the "profit making mindset" doesn't come to an end , we are doomed. If we choose empathy towards mankind, there is nothing to fear. Waking up each morning and going to work because we're passionate about what we are doing is a very different ball game. Technology has a great upside too if we are willing to abandon our current pyramidal-masonic system. But indeed the clock is ticking.

what would you do if you, or a beloved one, had a fatal heart disease but then are told that the only possibility to live is to get a artificial heart transplant? Ethic ally nobody could prevent anyone from getting such a device if we are definitely pro-life. However, I digress because technology is already helping a lot of people nowadays. So where to draw the line - and run the risk to decide who can live or die?

Technology is not the problem but the our NWO induced feudal mindset. IMHO. They to have kill 80% of mankind because they know that money as we know it is about to come to an end and that the unsustainable system they have created is inadequate to much longer life spans. And the century old mass manipulation makes it almost impossible to prepare populations for such a shift... unless...

Extreme human enhancement is most likely not designed for an earth-like lifestyle but to space travel without return.


eventually well have to embrace a money-free system, but if we cannot understand why power is inherently evil, then the fate of mankind is sealed....

soon or late, everything is bound to come to an end... and money as we know it will not escape this outcome.

the question is philosophical and spiritual above all

[Horn]

Someone has to tell the robot what to do.

Like me telling Hyper to keep each post down to 20 or less sentences, to remain socially acceptable.

[JohnQPublic]

Until there is real artificial intelligence, someone has to design the robots, and design better robots, etc. Someone has to debug and repair the robots. I don't believe there is a real artificial intelligence.Intelligence, creativity, knowing, etc. are attributes we share with God. Robots can sense and operate complex algorithms, but I do not believe algorithms lead to creativity, love, etc.

[Horn]

continued:

if the "profit making mindset" doesn't come to an end , we are doomed.

There's such a thing as honest pricing.

Now if one has a dream of doing nothing, or simply to be a controlling "middleman" these are the positions that the world simply has no place for. ie: bankers, pensionistas.

[Santa]

Until there is real artificial intelligence, someone has to design the robots, and design better robots, etc. Someone has to debug and repair the robots. I don't believe there is a real artificial intelligence.Intelligence, creativity, knowing, etc. are attributes we share with God. Robots can sense and operate complex algorithms, but I do not believe algorithms lead to creativity, love, etc.

Love resides outside logic. To love is to be out of one's mind. Love defies intellect. Love is the cure for inhumanity.

[Horn]

Love resides outside logic. To love is to be out of one's mind. Love defies intellect. Love is the cure for inhumanity.

What's with this blatant trolling for thanks? :)

[Hypertiger]

Truth is the supply of power and lies are the demand for power.

The Universe supplies what you need...not what you want.

You will only obtain what you want when what you want and need are the same.

If you need love you will receive love.

The Universe is perfectly fair, everyone and everything receives what they and it deserve, and there is no hope.

[Ponce]

I Can’t Find A Job: The Effects of A Large Unemployed Class & The Rise of Automation


What are the effects of a large unemployed or underemployed class in America? Upon those of you that are still working, what are the effects of the rise of outsourcing jobs to Mexico, China, and Southeast Asia? Can your job be automated? Can a portion of your job be automated? Can a portion of your job be done by a computer? Better, faster, and cheaper than you? Probably, for a majority of you.

VIDEO....... http://www.ingeniouspress.com/2013/07/19/i-cant-find-a-job-the-effects-of-a-large-unemployed-class-the-rise-of-automation/

[singular_me]

especially agree with the statement in bold... and for millennia long the elites have shaped our reality to idealize what we cant never get. It is all a dream... a bad dream... a nightmare


Truth is the supply of power and lies are the demand for power.

The Universe supplies what you need...not what you want.

You will only obtain what you want when what you want and need are the same.

If you need love you will receive love.

The Universe is perfectly fair, everyone and everything receives what they and it deserve, and there is no hope.

[singular_me]

dumbing down the masses and make them believe in "their narrowed" pursuit of happiness was/is the trap as "enlightenment" is the program the human species was created for. As we can see the Universe doesnt care about the individual but the societies as a whole. No wonder as why we have reached a threshold...

enlightenment and materialism are definitely at odds.


I Can’t Find A Job: The Effects of A Large Unemployed Class & The Rise of Automation


What are the effects of a large unemployed or underemployed class in America? Upon those of you that are still working, what are the effects of the rise of outsourcing jobs to Mexico, China, and Southeast Asia? Can your job be automated? Can a portion of your job be automated? Can a portion of your job be done by a computer? Better, faster, and cheaper than you? Probably, for a majority of you.

VIDEO....... http://www.ingeniouspress.com/2013/07/19/i-cant-find-a-job-the-effects-of-a-large-unemployed-class-the-rise-of-automation/

[vacuum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwMFMqE4UMM

[singular_me]

should we ever get to that point, do NOT ever forget that we can shape robots the way we think... so they will merely be the prolongation of the elites' power.

getting rid of ALL elites and get philosophical about Life is the only thing that can save us.

violence, coercion are the core issues, really, and we'll continue to project them into what we create unless we change radically. I am not afraid of technology but stupidity and ignorance.

The spiritual level must match our evolution and rapport with the Universe, and the more we don't get it, the more threatening it will become.

[Ponce]

Three things saved us from the 1932 depression......1= the world wanted what we produced 2= 60% of the population still knew about farming 3= WWII gave everyone a job..............but........now days our present, and future, weapons are either made overseas or in the US by robots...............how do you think that we are able to make so many drones? we send them out like candy at a kids birthday party, if there were made by hand then just about everyone in the US would have a job.

In was a lathe machinist when the CNC were introduced into the labor market and I saw how a part that would take me two hours to make would take the CNC only ten minutes (counting for breakdown and sharppening of tools)......in China they use robots to make toys that are opoerating 24/7 with the owner going into his little factory once a day to check the parts, add more material to the binds, and that's it.

V

[singular_me]

Ponce, I think the whole notion of "going to work to survive" has to be rethought. Knowledge could turn earth into a paradise, where learning and leisure are the only activities left. it becomes obvious that earth has been so far a massive ants colony and we keep thinking in those terms. The Eden allegory may not be far fetched as everything evolves in circle.... :) But its quite blatant that we create machines that make us work less and less...




Three things saved us from the 1932 depression......1= he world wanted what we produced 2= 60% of the population still knew about farming 3= WWII gave everyone a job..............but........now days our present, and future, weapons are either made overseas or in the US by robots...............how do you think that we are able to make so many drones? we send them out like candy at a kids birthday party, if there were made by hand then just about everyone in the US would have a job.

In was a lathe machinist when the CNC were introduced into the labor market and I saw how a part that would take me two hours to make would take the CNC only ten minutes (counting for breakdown and sharppening of tools)......in China they use robots to make toys that are opoerating 24/7 with the owner going into his little factory once a day to check the parts, add more material to the binds, and that's it.

V

[Ponce]

But it will not work as long as those in power are working AGAINST humanity......ie: THE ZIONIST.

We (the US) have dug our own grave by allowing in this country what was NEVER allowed in other countries and that is the take over of their land by the Jews....I am taking now in general and not only of the Zionist......I hate to point only at one item or group of people but all the arrows are pointing at them.

Why do you think that they have been kick out of over 96 countries?.......I said in the past that they have congress and the US under their power by blackmail and this has now proven to be true what what is coming to light.

And like I like to say...... "No Export = No Jobs = No Recovery"... Ponce

Obama want's to help the middle class to come back........but, the middle class is nothing more than a lower class with a lot of debts......... back to square one.

V

[Horn]

in China they use robots to make toys that are opoerating 24/7 with the owner going into his little factory once a day to check the parts, add more material to the binds, and that's it.
V

I've never seen a robot interested in playing with a toy.

[Ponce]

Even a condom can be a toy......for a man or a kid.

V

[singular_me]

philosophy aside, it also looks like lawyers and pharmacists are at risk due to robotization.... and all those parents who push their kids to become attorneys... not to mention actors are too in danger of becoming extinct and replaced with virtual characters. It is amazing to see that the quest for profits and speculation is about to send us back to square one, somehow... like I said: life is a zero-sum game. Everything has an inescapable upside and downside. Profiteering on what???


The Rise of Robot Jobs -- New York Magazine
http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/robot-jobs-2013-6/Jun 9, 2013

THE ARTICLE/CNBC
(ps: they forgot to mention surgeons)
pharmacists
lawyers and paralegals to review documents, software can do the job in a fraction of the time for a fraction of the cost.
Google announced last fall that it was working on automated cars as a way to increase safety and help humans reduce the time spent commuting to work
astronauts
Store clerks
Soldiers
Rescuers
Sportswriters and other reporters
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42183592/ns/business-careers/t/nine-jobs-humans-may-lose-robots/

[Horn]

Even a condom can be a toy......for a man or a kid.

V

You really oughtta rethink the V mark at the end of that post.

[Horn]

philosophy aside, it also looks like lawyers and pharmacists are at risk due to robotization.... and all those parents who push their kids to become attorneys...

I used to work in the industrial engineering field when fresh out of school, 1 CNC machine is chased by 2 engineers, 2 accountants, and 1 craftsman. not to mention the manufacturers of the machine. I think it replaced what used to be one or 2 machine operators and 1 accountant cutting the molds with their older machines.

[Serpo]

Professor: Robots to Patrol Cities by 2040 (http://www.prisonplanet.com/professor-robots-to-patrol-cities-by-2040.html)



















“What is your ID number? What are you doing here?”
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
July 25, 2013

Robots will be patrolling cities by 2040 according to Professor Noel Sharkey, who predicts their tasks will include asking for ID, tasering and arresting suspects as well as crowd control. http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/july2013/250713robot.jpgImage: DARPA


In an article entitled 2084: Big robot is watching you (http://www.scribd.com/doc/139971746/Noel-Sharkey-2084-Big-robot-is-watching-you-Future-Robot-Policing-Report-Final), Sharkey, a robotics professor at the University of Sheffield, forecasts a world in which the jobs of surveillance, security and law enforcement have largely been handed over to artificial intelligence.
WIthin the next 30 years, Sharkey asserts that, “Humanoid walking robots would be more in use for crowd control at games, strikes and riots. Robots will patrol city centres and trouble spots where fights are likely to break out.”
“Robots will have reasonable speech perception and be able to ask questions and respond to answers. What is your ID number? What are you doing here? Move along. They may work in teams of tracked robots with non-lethal weapons (e.g. Tasers or nets) and be on call for diffusing difficult situations and arresting people,” adds Sharkey.
As well as performing more mundane tasks like checking tickets and throwing people out of events, robots will also “be able to spray a crowd with RFID (http://www.prisonplanet.com/professor-robots-to-patrol-cities-by-2040.html#) tag darts or some futuristic equivalent so that people can be tracked after the crowd has been dispersed,” writes Sharkey.
By 2070, the professor predicts that robots will take on a human appearance and will be able to deploy swarm intelligence technology that will “make escape from capture impossible.” Robot police cars will also roam streets scanning license plates and deduct speeding fines from bank accounts automatically.
Sharkey has become a prominent voice in warning about how DARPA’s fleet of robots, which are ostensibly being developed for “humanitarian” and “emergency response” purposes, are in fact being designed to kill.
“Of course if it’s used for combat, it would be killing civilians as well as it’s not going to be able to discriminate between civilians and soldiers,”Sharkey told the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19506130).
His warning has been echoed by Human Rights Watch (http://www.dailytech.com/Human%2BRights%2BWatch%2BBan%2BTerminator%2BRobots %2BBefore%2BWe%2BLose%2BControl/article29232.htm), as well as former intelligence officer Lt. Col. Douglas Pryer (http://www.infowars.com/us-army-colonel-issues-warning-about-remorseless-killer-robots/), who wrote an essay (http://www.prisonplanet.com/professor-robots-to-patrol-cities-by-2040.html#) warning of the threat posed by remorseless “killer robots” that will be used to stalk and slaughter human targets in the near future.
Last year, experts at the prestigious University of Cambridge announced a project (http://www.infowars.com/experts-to-study-whether-robots-will-exterminate-humanity/) to conduct research into the “extinction-level risks” posed to humanity by artificially intelligent robots.
As we reported in April (http://www.infowars.com/pentagon-to-build-robots-with-real-brains/), Pentagon scientists have already constructed a machine that functions like a human brain and would enable robots to think independently and act autonomously.
Watch a recent TedX lecture given by Sharkey below in which he warns about how robots will inevitably be used as killing machines in the near future and will also “destabilize world security and trigger unintentional wars”.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/professor-robots-to-patrol-cities-by-2040.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjRV9FzdQNkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjRV9FzdQNk

[singular_me]

interesting, Horn

I am trying to kick myself in the but to learn acupressure, I love the topic and its applications but I am sure there is a robot in the making somewhere that will do it... :) I also can imagine a voice software with the appropriate program could replace all hypnotherapists... saying this because I am a practitioner already.

within 50 years we all are OUT of work.




I used to work in the industrial engineering field when fresh out of school, 1 CNC machine is chased by 2 engineers, 2 accountants, and 1 craftsman. not to mention the manufacturers of the machine. I think it replaced what used to be one or 2 machine operators and 1 accountant cutting the molds with their older machines.

[Horn]

within 50 years we all are OUT of work.

2000 BC Egyptians invent the shadoof to raise water. It uses a long suspended rod with a bucket at one end and a weight at the other. - See more at: http://www.pump-zone.com/topics/pumps/pumps/history-pumps-through-years#sthash.PTJWwyyn.dpuf


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[Horn]

Computers will also produce a drastic down turn in paper use across the boards.



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[Horn]

Found this while looking also, looks like 2008 has more bearing on where jobs go then robots.
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[gunDriller]

how about a Joo-bot that whines incessantly, then dons rabbinical attire and swings a chicken around its head ?

with a button that you push, and it says, "my grandparents died in the Holo-hoax."


and WHATEVER you do, don't push the 'Passover' button or the 'Purim' button.

[Santa]

The human analog wants to be your friend and take over the world. :o

http://youtu.be/uvcQCJpZJH8

[Serpo]

what if this thing gets her wires crossed......................

[vacuum]

Autonmous car reaching 136 mph around a complicated race track.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeWriarFlsU

[Glass]

very exciting. That guy was about to bust something.

so the future of formula 1 is scalextrics? cool.

[mick silver]

when we have a UTOPIA world were you can lay around doing nothing that would not be a world I would want to be a part of

[singular_me]

competition and self-cannibalization of the economy... chasing money like cavemen coming to an end



The premises have been faulty all along: Man is just not an animal because of his ability to conceive a greater reality and the purpose the act of Creation if he really wants to... it is a choice that animals will never have. Moreover, man cannot even behave like an animal, instinctively, because when he does he becomes worse than an animal to the point to even destroy his own environment and become a threat to his entire own species. Animals do not have the dominion over Nature. The issue is clearly metaphysical and competition denies this aspect. The Act of Creation defines "good vs evil" in the end, regardless of the Knowledge with a capital K.

Forget about profits when joblessness will be rampant. Yeah sure, WW3 could fix this. Competition is just ^^immoral^^ for humans, meaning a delusion that might engulf us all if we continue to treat humans as market assets. a non competitive system can only become reality if education follows but education has been too so darwinistic that there is no other option than accepting the collapse of the paradigm and deal with it.... with a new mindset

Hard currencies might be good for a mad max type of lifetsyle though




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Robots will obliterate America's middle class and unleash mass unemployment, social chaos and global populist revolts

Thursday, January 28, 2016
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/052787_robot_workers_massive_unemployment_populist _revolt.html#ixzz3yYB7k0Ut


PODCAST
http://healthrangerreport.com/robots-will-obliterate-americas-middle-class

[Horn]

a non competitive system can only become reality if ,,,

Hard currencies might be good for a mad max type of lifetsyle though

a non-competitive human system would also mean humans are as robots, it doesn't work towards any end.

Faith in any system is a pre-requisite (for humans or robots) they all equal out into individual reward.

AI or any Robots will/can never achieve this, and also why its so overly preached in many of man's religions.

ie: Give us this day our daily bread that we have transgressed away and over on from somebody else.

[singular_me]

why do you assume that man cannot work, doing his best, without the stress of competition? The stress is precisely why he works jobs he hates, it is so mind numbing that didnt see anything come.

what AI/robot will be able to do or not, isnt really the problem because they will mirror our mindsets. Will the new job be, in a generation from now, that of a robot professional killer? Escalation guaranteed.

terminator scifi is just around the corner



a non-competitive human system would also mean humans are as robots, it doesn't work towards any end.

Faith in any system is a pre-requisite (for humans or robots) they all equal out into individual reward.

AI or any Robots will/can never achieve this, and also why its so overly preached in many of man's religions.

ie: Give us this day our daily bread that we have transgressed away and over on from somebody else.

[Horn]

Its proven, man always does his worst when competition is removed. Faith in gaining an edge is the only that keeps him true. Empire is an example of competition removed as is a socialism.

When he is competing his hands aren't idle.

[Shami-Amourae]

terminator scifi is just around the corner

As long as I get to be the terminator I'm all for it.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Deus-Ex-Human-Revolution.jpg

[singular_me]

Its proven, man always does his worst when competition is removed. Faith in gaining an edge is the only that keeps him true. Empire is an example of competition removed as is a socialism.

When he is competing his hands aren't idle.


the system I am arguing for is doing things we thrive for... many people land jobs they would quit if they had the occasion to do so. not sure. anybody should have several different careers in his lifetime, be able to go back to study at any time, practice arts and for sure more leisure/travel. Instead they wait for their retirement and then die with regrets. Surely wont be my life but it is which of 80% of population.

and now most of those 80%, will be jobless anyway in their lifetime, and for good.

[Shami-Amourae]

the system I am arguing for is doing things we thrive for... many people land jobs they would quit if they had the occasion to do so. not sure. anybody should have several different careers in his lifetime, be able back to study at any time, practice arts and for sure more leisure/travel. Instead they wait for their retirement and then die with regrets. Surely wont be my life but it is which of 80% of population.

and now most of those 80%, will be jobless anyway in their lifetime, and for good.

This:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYXau-RBbrY

[singular_me]

yes an unprecedented breakdown is looming. in 10 years from now, we'll begin to feel the heat and a threshold in 25 years, going over the cliff.




This:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYXau-RBbrY

[Shami-Amourae]

yes an unprecedented breakdown is looming. in 10 years from now, we'll begin to feel the heat and a threshold in 25 years, going over the cliff.


That's plausible.

I see a bumpy transition period no matter what. It will end in a better or worse world. Maybe a mix of both.

[singular_me]

That's plausible.

I see a bumpy transition period no matter what. It will end in a better or worse world. Maybe a mix of both.

uneducated masses are more of a threat than the first robots that will take their jobs. But also feel like it is necessary for the system to flush itself completely. So I am ready

[Shami-Amourae]

uneducated masses are more of a threat than the first robots that will take their jobs. But also feel like it is necessary for the system to flush itself completely. So I am ready

Just make leaflets. Problem solved.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/01/27/09/309F337900000578-3418820-image-a-28_1453886009055.jpg




Warning: Bonn carnival chief Christoph Arnold hands out a leaflet to refugees in Bonn, Germany, warning them about the rules for next week's Carnival - including not sexually assaulting women or urinating in public (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3418820/Cologne-carnival-organisers-hand-leaflets-telling-migrants-not-rape-women-urinate-public-wake-New-Year-sex-attacks.html)

[Horn]

All Due to racketeering dollar empire to eliminate competition. Pension leeches, S.S. collectors, system chancers rigging so as not to have any mind towards improving themselves into the future. 80% of Robot jobs created are towards those ends.

Were money hard none would exist and competition welcomed. Competition confirms security, which in turn enables freedom of choice.

No human chooses a robot.

[singular_me]

no human... not sure, Horn


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When Amazon warehouse workers complained of sore feet from walking too much, the company simply replaced them with 30,000 robots (and counting)
1st February 2016

‘Amazon.com’s online sales empire is built on the ability to quickly deliver nearly any product straight to the customer’s door. Increasingly, that speed is driven by automated systems, rather than human labor.

In 2012, the company purchased a robotics manufacturer named Kiva Systems for $775 million, and renamed it Amazon Robotics. In 2014, the company began using robots to do some of the merchandise selection and packaging at its warehouses. By the end of that year, there were 15,000 robots in use at 10 of Amazon’s 50 fulfillment centers. That number had increased to 30,000 robots at 13 fulfillment centers by the third quarter of 2015.’

http://www.naturalnews.com/052817_Amazon_robot_workers_unemployment.html

[Horn]

As Amazon grows so do USPS delivery boys and customer service reps to track packages, robots do not replace humans.

all history past and present evidence reveals they only allow humans more time to dance and make whoopee!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANRPmTZRqkg

[Half Sense]

I've been trying to program a machine to do my job for years. I get closer every year. I do less and my program does more. BUT I GET ALL THE MONEY!

[singular_me]

corporation will always follow the money, unless we end money as a concept (along with outing world elites), this is not going to end well.

yes good for illegal immigration but americans will not get the jobs anyway
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The future of farming will see robots replacing field workers … New robot-run farm factory produces 30,000 heads of lettuce a day
2nd February 2016

‘It’s a development that is bad for employment but, in a strange way, it could serve to help solve another problem facing America – illegal immigration.

It seems the world’s first robot farm is about to launch, and initially its non-human workforce will be capable of picking 30,000 heads of lettuce per day.

As reported by Tech Insider, chief executives of a lettuce production company in Japan called Spread, believe that future farmers will be robots. In fact, they are so adamant about it at Spread, that the firm is creating the world’s first farm that is going to be managed entirely by robots. Rather than relying on human workers, an indoor vegetable factory will employ robots instead, and they will be very productive.’

http://www.naturalnews.com/052834_robot_workers_sustainable_agriculture_mini_ farm_grow_boxes.html

[Horn]

Robots dont eat lettuce.

[mick silver]

good then we all can lay around and do nothing and eat http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_calxOT6kJQM/SQALdKLyEoI/AAAAAAAADQc/djRRXDcVCMo/s400/MAgirl.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IiMhmvkfAbA/TihRsleDE3I/AAAAAAAAEpE/ab6v8dIexDQ/s1600/bon+bons.JPG

[monty]

Robotic sheepherders and cowboys coming to Australia . . Swagbot


http://youtu.be/cZVUYJhXXzo

https://youtu.be/cZVUYJhXXzo


Read more here: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2097004-cattle-herding-robot-swagbot-makes-debut-on-australian-farms/?cmpid=SOC%7CNSNS%7C2016-FBvideo-SWAGBOT&utm_medium=SOC&utm_source=NSNS&utm_campaign=FBvideo&utm_content=SWAGBOT

[singular_me]

competitive monetarism will always follow the cheapest investment, so eventually competition hits the brick wall
===============

‘Outsourcing giant Capita is to sack 2,000 staff and replace them with robots in a move some fear will be repeated across the economy, leading to more than 1 million job losses.

The FTSE 100-listed firm, which collects the BBC license fee and provides services for the NHS, said it needed to ax 2,000 jobs to save money due to poor trading with corporate clients.

It said it would use the money it saved to fund investment into robotic workers across the whole company, according to the Guardian.’

http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/robot-takeover-begins-corporate-giant-capita-replaces-staff-with-automatons/

[Horn]

this is why your government was formed, singular.

to bust monopoly.

Advance to GO without collecting $200

[singular_me]

so you mean that the gov which condones monopolies can be of any help? ;D

dont think th gov will do anything here... free market only works on paper.

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New automated restaurant with no servers or cashiers opens in NYC

(NaturalNews) A newly-opened eatery in Manhattan incorporates a futuristic take on a not-so-new concept in providing fresh, healthy and relatively inexpensive vegetarian meals to the public.

Eatsa is a modern, high-tech version of the automated lunch counter – an innovation first introduced to New Yorkers over a century ago. The restaurant employs no waiters or cashiers; customers order and pay for their food at an iPad kiosk. Moments later, a meal appears in an individual cubbyhole with an LED display of the appropriate customer’s name on its clear glass screen.

The meals are all vegetarian and quinoa-based. Customers can select a 12- or 16-ounce bowl of quinoa with various toppings based on eight customizable flavor themes such as “No Worry Curry,” “Burrito Bowl” or “Hummus & Falafel,” and there’s the option to build one’s own bowl.

http://naturalnews.com/2016-12-20-new-automated-restaurant-opens-in-nyc-without-servers-or-cashiers.html

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Published on Aug 31, 2015

Eatsa has no lines because it has no cashiers. You order on an iPad, your name comes up on a transparent LCD screen box, and you pull out a bowl of quinoa. Opening today in San Francisco at 121 Spear St, Eatsa is a new restaurant designed around technology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d7dhJQBaf0

[PatColo]

this YT vlogger Fake News Wars (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ0XHIeRvm6OWoFGBNlPgNw/videos) has a lot of interesting vids; browsing his selections shows a little fetish for 'defending' YTer David Seaman (https://www.youtube.com/user/davidseamanonline/videos).... but that's a side note. He's got these robot vids up presently;


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VQ6FVgi7azA/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=IDpxPgWWm3dmK7dnSf9jCZClmc8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ6FVgi7azA) 3:20
GLOBALISTS Poised to Axe Millions of Teacher Jobs Replacing HUMANS With Robots (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ6FVgi7azA)



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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KNaCNpW_s6M/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=qs7tbi7rYP5BO6bgvAEF4QYEEZ811:19 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNaCNpW_s6M)
Robots SEIZING Control of Pharmacies in Hospitals and Stores Worldwide ~ New World Order Conspiracy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNaCNpW_s6M)



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[Horn]

so you mean that the gov which condones monopolies can be of any help? http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/grin.gif

dont think th gov will do anything here... free market only works on paper.

its this kind of thinking that ruined the american dream and why it will Not be great again.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ok0SKmvdY

[Jewboo]

Robots are the ultimate goyim.

[Glass]

Idiocracy

Minimum Wage Massacre: Wendy's Unleashes 1,000 Robots To Counter Higher Labor Cost

In yet another awkwardly rational response to government intervention in deciding what's "fair", the blowback from minimum wage demanding fast food workers has struck again. Wendy's plans to install self-ordering kiosks in 1,000 of its stores - 16% of its locations nationwide.


"Last year was tough — 5 percent wage inflation," said Bob Wright, Wendy's chief operating officer, during his presentation to investors and analysts last week. He added that the company expects wages to rise 4 percent in 2017. "But the real question is what are we doing about it?"

Wright noted that over the past two years, Wendy's has figured out how to eliminate 31 hours of labor per week from its restaurants and is now working to use technology, such as kiosks, to increase efficiency.


Wendy's chief information officer, David Trimm, said the kiosks are intended to appeal to younger customers and reduce labor costs. Kiosks also allow customers of the fast food giant to circumvent long lines during peak dining hours while increasing kitchen production.
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/02/19/20170227_wendys_0.jpg

ZeroHedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-27/minimum-wage-massacre-wendys-unleashes-1000-robots-counter-higher-labor-costs)

Red Dwarf
Stealing from a vending machine: https://youtu.be/4QDEPoMNvWM?t=125

[singular_me]

this is only the very early beginning of the wave.. wanna keep your job, then start working for 4-5 bucks/hr and 24/7 ???

Free market doctrine cannot be stretched anymore

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It Begins: Wendy’s Installs Robots In 1,000 Stores To Counter Minimum Wage
1 March 2017 GMT

For the last several years, the Free Thought Project has been predicting what will happen as government continued to arbitrarily fix wages across the United States. As politicians deceive their constituents into thinking financial success can come through an act of legislation, employers will find a way to offset this cost. It will either come through higher prices or, in this most recent Wendy’s case — robots.

To offset the costs of being forced to pay employees $15 an hour, Bob Wright, Wendy’s chief operating officer told investors last week Wendy’s has found a solution. In the past two years, Wright noted, Wendy’s has figured out how to eliminate 31 hours of labor per week from its restaurants and is now working to use technology, such as kiosks, to increase efficiency.

The automated kiosks serve two purposes: they give younger customers an ordering experience that they prefer, and they reduce labor costs.’

http://www.activistpost.com/2017/02/begins-wendys-installs-robots-1000-stores-counter-minimum-wage.html


Robots To Replace Five Million Jobs By 2020
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/robots-replace-5-million-jobs-2020/

[Horn]

1000 Chinese kiosk creators, 2 highschool flunky outsourced repairmen and 1 low wage hour daily black woman cleaner will be added for each kiosk.

[singular_me]

just a taste of what is coming...

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Domino’s Will Begin Using Robots to Deliver Pizzas in Europe
31 March 2017 GMT
Starship’s battery-powered robot is designed to operate autonomously on sidewalks, not roads, and has a maximum speed of four miles per hour carrying loads up to 20 pounds. Its cargo hold, which customers unlock with a code sent to their mobile phones, is insulated and the pizzas will also be placed inside a special hot or cold bag similar to the ones used for motorcycle-based deliveries.

"Dependent on size, we can carry up to eight pizzas on a delivery or a variety of combinations of pizzas, sides and cold drinks or dessert products," the company said..............

https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/ihkIKtUyO_5Q/v0/800x-1.jpg

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-29/domino-s-will-begin-using-robots-to-deliver-pizzas-in-europe

[PatColo]

Aaron Dykes & sister (Melissa, I think?) of TruthStream Media just pub'd this. I've only skipped through so far; looks worthwhile.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jPmUGq25KBk/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=r93pYEtx6GwpPoAt5rwRacGlr1s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPmUGq25KBk) 49:48
Obsolete — Full Documentary Official (2016) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPmUGq25KBk)

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they also pub'd this one a week ago,

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4x2sJWmAnjY/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=YPBL98pOU0pfXYzCIOsekyWryi0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x2sJWmAnjY) 15:49
How Modern Reality Is Being Manufactured (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x2sJWmAnjY)

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1 week ago