PDA

View Full Version : Okay, is this what we are arming ourselves for?



EE_
6th February 2013, 04:30 PM
Obama Gives Foreign Cops New Police Powers in U.S.
Posted by: The Liberty Beacon™ Staff
Published February 4, 2013, filed under GOVERNMENT

A little-discussed executive order from President Obama giving foreign cops new police powers in the United States by exempting them from such drudgery as compliance with the Freedom of Information Act is raising alarm among commentators who say INTERPOL already had most of the same privileges as diplomats.

At David Horowitz’s Newsreal, Michael van der Galien said the issue is Obama’s expansion of President Ronald Reagan’s order from 1983 that originally granted those diplomatic privileges.

Reagan’s order carried certain exemptions requiring that INTERPOL operations be subject to several U.S. laws such as the Freedom of Information Act. Obama, however, removed those restrictions in his Dec. 16 amendment to Executive Order 12425.

That means, van der Galien wrote today, “this foreign law enforcement organization can operate free of an important safeguard against government and abuse.”

“‘Property and assets,’ including the organization’s records, cannot be searched or seized. Their physical locations are now immune from U.S. legal or investigative authorities,” he wrote.

Obama’s order said he was removing the Reagan limitations on INTERPOL:

“AMENDING EXECUTIVE ORDER 12425 DESIGNATING INTERPOL
AS A PUBLIC INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION ENTITLED TO
ENJOY CERTAIN PRIVILEGES, EXEMPTIONS, AND IMMUNITIES

“By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words “except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act” and the semicolon that immediately precedes them,” he wrote.

At the ThreatsWatch.org website, authors Steve Schippert and Clyde Middleton gave their interpretation of the result.

“In light of what we know and can observe, it is our logical conclusion that President Obama’s Executive Order amending President Ronald Reagans’ 1983 EO 12425 and placing INTERPOL above the United States Constitution and beyond the legal reach of our own top law enforcement is a precursor to more damaging moves,” they wrote.

“When the paths on the road map converge – Iraq withdrawal, Guantánamo closure, perceived American image improved internationally, and an empowered INTERPOL in the United States – it is probable that President Barack Obama will once again make America a signatory to the International Criminal Court. It will be a move that surrenders American sovereignty to an international body whose INTERPOL enforcement arm has already been elevated above the Constitution and American domestic law enforcement,” they said.

“For an added and disturbing wrinkle, INTERPOL’s central operations office in the United States is within our own Justice Department offices. They are American law enforcement officers working under the aegis of INTERPOL within our own Justice Department. That they now operate with full diplomatic immunity and with ‘inviolable archives’ from within our own buildings should send red flags soaring into the clouds,” they said.

“Ultimately, a detailed verbal explanation is due the American public from the President of the United States detailing why an international law enforcement arm assisting a court we are not a signatory to has been elevated above our Constitution upon our soil.”

Records show that the original order designated INTERPOL as a public international organization. Reagan had extended “appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities,” but kept it subject to searches and seizures under appropriate legal circumstances.

Obama’s decision, analysts have concluded, exempted Interpol from all restrictions.

“This international law enforcement body now operates – now operates – on American soil beyond the reach of our own top law enforcement arm, the FBI, and is immune from Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests,” ThreatsWatch reported.

At the Patriot Room, it was explained there is a reason for a certain level of immunity.

“Before we get our knickers in a bunch, there is logic to this immunity. While we like our Constitution and laws, other countries like their Constitution and laws. It doesn’t matter if the concept of personal freedom is more expansive here. If we expect immunity in their country, we have to extend it to them here.”

But with Obama’s change, “It means that we have an international police force authorized to act within the United States that is no longer subject to 4th Amendment Search and Seizure.”

Anthony Martin at the Examiner noted the international agency now can operate in the U.S. will “full immunity” from U.S. laws and “with complete independence from oversight from the FBI.”

At National Review Andy McCarthy asked, “Why would we elevate an international police force above American law? Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies? Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?”

At UNDispatch, which is a blog on the United Nations, Mark Leon Goldberg, who explained he worked at Interpol’s headquarters in France in 2002, said there isn’t much danger of INTERPOL agents whisking Americans off to jail. But he confirmed, “As to the specific reason why the Obama administration would decide, last week, to extend to INTERPOL the same suite of diplomatic privileges that are typically accorded to international organizations? I don’t have a good answer for that. My sense is that it probably has something to with the accessibility of INTERPOL’s secure criminal databases (on things like stolen passports and the like).”

But the Obama critics at the Obamafile weren’t convinced.

“By this EO, Obama has conferred diplomatic immunity upon INTERPOL, exemption from being subject to search and seizure by law enforcement, exemption from U.S. taxes, and immunity from FOIA requests, etc. … Does INTERPOL have a file on Obama – or his associations?”

Read original here: http://www.wnd.com/2009/12/120363/#l3LmRMeUbrFsLqgU.99

midnight rambler
6th February 2013, 04:42 PM
*Somebody* is doing everything they can to start some shit.

EE_
6th February 2013, 04:50 PM
How hard do you think it would be to bring in a couple million foreign soldiers when the shtf?
UN soldiers that don't give a crap about this country, except to see it fall.
I think many are already here.

EE_
6th February 2013, 05:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSkhuYfQC2s

Uncle Salty
6th February 2013, 06:19 PM
How hard do you think it would be to bring in a couple million foreign soldiers when the shtf?
UN soldiers that don't give a crap about this country, except to see it fall.
I think many are already here.

US Citizens will make swiss cheese of the blue helmets.

Ares
6th February 2013, 06:26 PM
US Citizens will make swiss cheese of the blue helmets.

Yep, lock and load.

http://www.practicaltacticaltraining.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/UN_helmet-small.jpg

General of Darkness
6th February 2013, 06:37 PM
US Citizens will make swiss cheese of the blue helmets.

Agreed. I personally dunno if I could ever fire a weapon with bad intentions at another human being, unless they were intent on harming my family, my dogs or me. Just being honest. However, as two time world champion at paintball, I know how get the upper hand and eliminate threats. Actually played against Seals all that shit and worked them like a rib in Compton. I've become a hope for the best and prepare for the worst kinda guy. But paintball is a far cry from reality, once you're eliminated, you are dead.

Ares
6th February 2013, 06:41 PM
Agreed. I personally dunno if I could ever fire a weapon with bad intentions at another human being, unless they were intent on harming my family, my dogs or me. Just being honest. However, as two time world champion at paintball, I know how get the upper hand and eliminate threats. Actually played against Seals all that shit and worked them like a rib in Compton. I've become a hope for the best and prepare for the worst kinda guy. But paintball is a far cry from reality, once you're eliminated, you are dead.

Make peace with your creator, and know that if it ever comes to that situation. It's either him/them, or you. I will not hesitate, I will not miss, and I will not have any remorse.

I did not want this war, I did not seek it, but by god if I have to fight I will be a ruthless son of a bitch that would make Vlad The Impaler blush.

chad
6th February 2013, 06:52 PM
isn't there something in the constitution about not granting anyone titles of nobility? sounds like there has a been a lot of nobility title granting the past few years...

Norweger
6th February 2013, 06:54 PM
They will probably use death squads in civilian clothing. Blue helmets would make an easy target.

Ares
6th February 2013, 06:55 PM
isn't there something in the constitution about not granting anyone titles of nobility? sounds like there has a been a lot of nobility title granting the past few years...

Mostly in the courts. I never understood why judges were called "your honor" Honor of what? He's just a man in a robe sitting in a chair raised 3 feet off the ground.

This entire country, legal system, economic system has become a complete joke.

General of Darkness
6th February 2013, 06:59 PM
Make peace with your creator, and know that if it ever comes to that situation. It's either him/them, or you. I will not hesitate, I will not miss, and I will not have any remorse.

I did not want this war, I did not seek it, but by god if I have to fight I will be the brutalist son of a bitch that would make Vlad The Impaler blush.

Words Ares, just words. I see this "Ramboness" type of conversation going on all over the net. My simple point is that when put in the situation of push comes to shove a lot of loud mouths will comply. As an example, several years ago I had a loud mouth get in my face, he was a lot bigger, but I would have handled him with ease, but I chose not too, and here's the dilemma. We're 3 inches apart, my brain is saying, upper cut, right leg to the his knee and then a knee to the face, bang bang bang, DONE. Then the other part of the brain is saying, you're going to fuck this guy up, there's servaillance, you're going to get sued, blah blah blah. I'm not a negro, I think. And that's my point.

It's going to be, at least for me, as Caliente said, "When people have nothing to lose". And the only damn reason I'm this way, is that I don't want my mother to see me in a bad light. It's pretty fucked up.

Ponce
6th February 2013, 07:06 PM
Sounds kind of funny that when I say something you guys make it to be a joke.....but when it comes from the left field it then becomes the news of the day.............One more time...........mercs will be the ones to control the US population which will make it easier to kill them all.

V

Ares
6th February 2013, 07:13 PM
Words Ares, just words. I see this "Ramboness" type of conversation going on all over the net. My simple point is that when put in the situation of push comes to shove a lot of loud mouths will comply. As an example, several years ago I had a loud mouth get in my face, he was a lot bigger, but I would have handled him with ease, but I chose not too, and here's the dilemma. We're 3 inches apart, my brain is saying, upper cut, right leg to the his knee and then a knee to the face, bang bang bang, DONE. Then the other part of the brain is saying, you're going to fuck this guy up, there's servaillance, you're going to get sued, blah blah blah. I'm not a negro, I think. And that's my point.

It's going to be, at least for me, as Caliente said, "When people have nothing to lose". And the only damn reason I'm this way, is that I don't want my mother to see me in a bad light. It's pretty fucked up.

More than words from me my friend. I've been training and preparing for the worst, but hoping and praying for the best. Been in a mixed martial arts class for a little over a year now. Wanted Krav Maga but no one teaches it in my area, so went with MMA. I have food, weapons, contacts and connections with neighbors including the local militia. My background in the military was electronic warfare specialist, I've taught some of my contacts how to perform radio, and GPS jamming among many other techniques that I will not divulge.

When I say I will be brutal, and ruthless to those who wish to do me, my family, and my friends harm. I mean it and I stand by my words.

General of Darkness
6th February 2013, 07:45 PM
More than words from me my friend. I've been training and preparing for the worst, but hoping and praying for the best. Been in a mixed martial arts class for a little over a year now. Wanted Krav Maga but no one teaches it in my area, so went with MMA. I have food, weapons, contacts and connections with neighbors including the local militia. My background in the military was electronic warfare specialist, I've taught some of my contacts how to perform radio, and GPS jamming among many other techniques that I will not divulge.

When I say I will be brutal, and ruthless to those who wish to do me, my family, and my friends harm. I mean it and I stand by my words.

Hey brother I believe it.

BabushkaLady
6th February 2013, 08:10 PM
. . . I see this "Ramboness" type of conversation going on all over the net. My simple point is that when put in the situation of push comes to shove a lot of loud mouths will comply. . . .

Not just on the net. When push comes to shove; a lot of loud mouths won't comply. JMHO.

General of Darkness
6th February 2013, 08:35 PM
Not just on the net. When push comes to shove; a lot of loud mouths won't comply. JMHO.

Fucking hell I find myself sounding like a damn shill to myself. Because I'm not doubting it, I'm constantly saying how are these people going to organize, etc etc, BUT that's because I live in L.A. So never mind me. Here in faggot land, the gun owner is not a comfort but the enemy. I'm surrounded by people in denial.

zap
6th February 2013, 08:44 PM
When it gets bad enough... you'll be fine, shoot, shovel, and shut the f up!

BabushkaLady
6th February 2013, 08:48 PM
When it gets bad enough... you'll be fine, shoot, shovel, and shut the f up!

That shovel sure does get some use!! ;D

Dogman
6th February 2013, 09:05 PM
That shovel sure does get some use!! ;D

Speaking of shovels!

http://mlblogsphilliesphollowers.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/funny-pictures-cat-with-invisible-snow-shovel1.jpg

zap
6th February 2013, 09:10 PM
No I'm just kidding, I would have to wait for the sheriff to show up. I wouldn't want to do anything illegal.

BabushkaLady
6th February 2013, 09:17 PM
Sheriff? Hell, we're just talking about rattlesnakes. :)

old steel
6th February 2013, 09:42 PM
More than words from me my friend. I've been training and preparing for the worst, but hoping and praying for the best. Been in a mixed martial arts class for a little over a year now. Wanted Krav Maga but no one teaches it in my area, so went with MMA. I have food, weapons, contacts and connections with neighbors including the local militia. My background in the military was electronic warfare specialist, I've taught some of my contacts how to perform radio, and GPS jamming among many other techniques that I will not divulge.

When I say I will be brutal, and ruthless to those who wish to do me, my family, and my friends harm. I mean it and I stand by my words.

Hey man maybe you can help me out. Whenever they spay us heavy here my left ear starts ringing away and won't stop. Are they using some kind of electronic connection between the metal in the spray which we are breathing in down here on deck and then broadcasting a particular frequency signal out of the GWEN towers?

GWEN tower south of me about 1 mile.

It's really getting to be annoying as hell.

Twisted Titan
6th February 2013, 09:49 PM
When I say I will be brutal, and ruthless to those who wish to do me, my family, and my friends harm. I mean it and I stand by my words.



Really nasty stuff that is absolutely essentiall for the coming Dark Times.





http://youtu.be/cuZ_A77cPJA

Ares
7th February 2013, 05:52 AM
Hey man maybe you can help me out. Whenever they spay us heavy here my left ear starts ringing away and won't stop. Are they using some kind of electronic connection between the metal in the spray which we are breathing in down here on deck and then broadcasting a particular frequency signal out of the GWEN towers?

GWEN tower south of me about 1 mile.

It's really getting to be annoying as hell.

GWEN (Ground Wave Emergency Network correct?) Broadcast in the range of 150 to 175kHz. Anything man broadcast is usually outside of human perception. Earth itself is a broadcast beacon but it's an extremely low tone 7.83hz known as the Shumann Resonance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances).

With metals being used (Aluminum-oxide barium-oxide and a whole list of other metals) have been linked with ringing ears just from the spray. Most likely just from the toxic brew that they continue to spew forth is the cause of your ears ringing.

woodman
7th February 2013, 06:26 AM
GWEN (Ground Wave Emergency Network correct?) Broadcast in the range of 150 to 175kHz. Anything man broadcast is usually outside of human perception. Earth itself is a broadcast beacon but it's an extremely low tone 7.83hz known as the Shumann Resonance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances).

With metals being used (Aluminum-oxide barium-oxide and a whole list of other metals) have been linked with ringing ears just from the spray. Most likely just from the toxic brew that they continue to spew forth is the cause of your ears ringing.

My ears ring so loud I can hardly hear anymore. A constant loud ringing. Of course I've spent most of my life running saws and hilti guns, etc. I'd do just about anything to make the ringing go away.

As far as the OP, if they bring in foriegn troops like they did in Revolutionary times, it will bring revolutionary times back. The American Revolution never ended but has merely been on a real slow simmer. If they turn the heat up, so will we. We are hopelessly divided now in the cities, so don't expect much except total chaos there. I think we can disrupt supply lines though. The corporations control the food supply and until that is addressed nothing else matters.

Twisted Titan
7th February 2013, 07:56 AM
Mn eagle just put a thread up that may be of great value

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?67248-A-Simple-Cure-for-Tinnitus&p=610179#post610179

mick silver
10th February 2013, 12:06 PM
Back up