Pouring granulated sugar on wounds 'can heal them faster than antibiotics'... V

[Ponce]

With the ammount of sugar that I eat everyday no wonder I never get sick... :)
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Too much sugar may be bad for the waistline, but it could help doctors heal the sick.
New research shows folk medicine from Africa may hold the key to treating wounds that defy modern medicine.
A study found granulated sugar poured directly into bed sores, leg ulcers and even amputations promotes healing when antibiotics and other treatments have failed.
According to the study, sugar draws water from the wound into a dressing accelerating the healing process. The traditional remedy was suggested by Moses Murandu (left) for treating Alan Bayliss (right)
The study is headed by Moses Murandu, a senior lecturer in adult nursing at Wolverhampton University, who grew up in Zimbabwe where his father used sugar to heal wounds and reduce pain when he was a child.
Sugar draws water from the wound into a dressing - bacteria needs water to survive - which allows accelerates the healing process, or kick starts it where progress has stalled.
When Mr Murandu moved to the UK he realised that sugar was not recognised as a traditional medicine that had something to offer.
One of the patients receiving treatment as part of the research is Alan Bayliss, from Birmingham, who was being treated at Moseley Hall Hospital’s amputee rehabilitation ward.
He underwent an above the knee amputation on his right leg due to an ulcer at the Queen Elizabeth (QE) Hospital Birmingham in January 2013, and as part of the surgery a vein was removed from his left leg.
For his post-surgery rehabilitation, Mr Bayliss was moved to Moseley Hall Hospital where standard dressings were used but the left leg cavity wound was not healing effectively.
Nurses contacted Mr Murandu and Mr Bayliss was given the sugar treatment and within two weeks the wound had drastically reduced in size.

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Mr Bayliss, a 62-year-old electrical engineer, said: ‘It has been revolutionary. The actual wound was very deep - it was almost as big as my finger
‘When Moses first did the dressing he almost used the whole pot of sugar, but two weeks later he only needed to use 4 or 5 teaspoons.
'SUGAR TREATMENT HAS MADE ME FEEL SO MUCH BETTER'

A British amputee had an open wound healed with the novel sugar treatment.

Alan Bayliss, from Birmingham, had his right leg amputated above the knee, and one of his veins removed after developing a huge ulcer.
However, the resulting wound refused to heal, until a nursing lecturer suggested a sugar treatment used in his native Zimbabwe.
Moses Murandu applied a whole pot of sugar at first, but was down to five teaspoons two weeks later. He said it works by drawing water away from the wound, as water is needed for bacteria to multiply.

Now the electrical engineer is on the road to recovery at the Moseley Hall Hospital, Birmingham.
Mr Bayliss, 62, said: 'It has made me feel so much better and I'm not in pain anymore.
'It's three weeks later and the wound has really come together.'

Mr Murandu is now halfway through his randomised control trial at three West Midlands hospitals - Moseley Hall, the Queen Elizabeth Hospital and Manor Hospital in Walsall.
So far 35 patients have successfully received the treatment, with no adverse effects reported.
Mr Murandu, 47, said: 'I'm so pleased with the results and the reaction my treatment is receiving.
"When I was a child my father used to treat my cuts with sugar, so I was to surprised to find that didn't exist here in the UK.'

‘I am very pleased indeed. I feel that it has speeded up my recovery a lot, and it has been a positive step forward.

'I was a little sceptical at first but once I saw the sugar in operation and how much it was drawing the wound out, I was impressed.’
Staff Nurse Jonathan Janneman said: ‘One of the main benefits has been the morale of the patient. He could see the cavity in his leg as well as having been unwell and through operations.
‘But the sugar has given something to hold on to. It is amazing that something as simple as sugar has given him a morale boost - the psychological benefit is up there with the physical benefits.

'The patient is ecstatic with the results.’ Mr Murandu is undertaking a trial at three West Midlands hospitals - Moseley Hall, the QE Hospital and Manor Hospital in Walsall - into using the sugar paste.

So far 35 patients receiving treatment have seen their condition improve, with no adverse effects reported, compared with 16 patients who did not have the treatment.
The treatment works because bacteria need water to grow, so applying sugar to a wound draws the water away and starves the bacteria of water. This prevents the bacteria from multiplying and they die.
Mr Murandu said pure sugar was used which had to go through infection control procedures.
He said ‘In Africa we would get the sugar from the supermarket, here it has to go through our aseptic services department.
‘The only problem we have is asking people to be prepared not to get the treatment - they have already been on standard treatment of antibiotics and modern dressings which hasn’t worked.’

Mr Murandu, who has won an innovation award for his research, said: ‘It is very pleasing for me to see the results, especially now that the nurses are able to take over and administer the treatment after I have made the initial assessment, and also that the patients are experiencing the benefits.
‘I believe in the sugar and the nurses and doctors who see the effects are beginning to believe in it too. I’d like to thank the University and the School of Health and Wellbeing for their support and also the patients for taking pa


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[drafter]

If it's just about drawing moisture, wouldn't salt be more effective then? Yes it would sting like hell, but would it be just as effective? Seems like sugar would just become a gooey mess.

[Ponce]

I have read that honey can also do the same job......

V

[milehi]

Unrelated, but I grabbed a hot cast iron skillet recently, and had to hold onto it because it contained dinner. My palm and fingers were seared in several areas. My girlfriend went to the fridge, grabbed a egg and cracked it over my palm and let it sit for several minutes. There was no blistering, pain or scaring.

[Bildo]

My vet had me use Manuka honey to treat a surgical wound on my dog that wouldn't heal. She had a huge tumor removed and afterwards all her sutures/staples fell out, leaving a gaping wound about 4 inches across. After 6 weeks of ineffective antibiotics and topical creams, we were at our wits end. The vet suggested off the record that I try honey, and sure enough after about a week the open wound had filled in with new skin. Today, it's scarred, hairless and ugly, but I'm a believer there's something to Ponce's article.

[willie pete]

with proper wound care, there should be little to no bacteria present hence no need for the sugar, unless we're talking about infected decubes...etc, and in that case I don't think I'd be putting sugar on it, Silvadene (Silva-Sulfadene) works great, the only major contraindication is leukopenia

[Serpo]

Unrelated, but I grabbed a hot cast iron skillet recently, and had to hold onto it because it contained dinner. My palm and fingers were seared in several areas. My girlfriend went to the fridge, grabbed a egg and cracked it over my palm and let it sit for several minutes. There was no blistering, pain or scaring.

Any type of honey works well also

[Serpo]

My vet had me use Manuka honey to treat a surgical wound on my dog that wouldn't heal. She had a huge tumor removed and afterwards all her sutures/staples fell out, leaving a gaping wound about 4 inches across. After 6 weeks of ineffective antibiotics and topical creams, we were at our wits end. The vet suggested off the record that I try honey, and sure enough after about a week the open wound had filled in with new skin. Today, it's scarred, hairless and ugly, but I'm a believer there's something to Ponce's article.

This sugar thread gives us an idea how the manuka honey may work

[chad]

egg you say?

[osoab]

Unrelated, but I grabbed a hot cast iron skillet recently, and had to hold onto it because it contained dinner. My palm and fingers were seared in several areas. My girlfriend went to the fridge, grabbed a egg and cracked it over my palm and let it sit for several minutes. There was no blistering, pain or scaring.

For future reference, I suggest a towel or pot holder. :cool:

[Neuro]

If it's just about drawing moisture, wouldn't salt be more effective then? Yes it would sting like hell, but would it be just as effective? Seems like sugar would just become a gooey mess.
The salt would draw out more moisture, also from the tissue cells, maybe surviving nearby tissue cells can utilize the sugary gooey stuff for nutrition also? I think this is very interesting, in it's simplicity, for things like deep cuts and bullet wounds...

[Neuro]

Slightly unrelated, but my dad has cancer, malignant melanoma, that spread to his lungs, liver and a lymph node, and he started drinking dandelion root tea, on my suggestion, because it has been proven to induce cell death specifically in malignant melanoma cells, in the test tube. I told him to put some honey in it because it may have a bitter taste, he told me he didn't have any honey so he put sugar in it. Of course generally speaking sugar is food for cancer, but after thinking about it, I thought that maybe it is good, as the cancer cells get activated and starts devouring the sugar, they also take in the active substances of the dandelion root, further the sugar probably will activate and enhance the intestinal absorption of the tea components. As it is it is a bit of a shot in the dark anyway, with this type of cancer it would be a miracle if he survived one year (it is like a 1% chance of that statistically), average life expectancy for a malignant melanoma as spread as his would be somewhere between 2-4 months, and that is with the standard medical treatment (chemotherapy). He'll go to the oncologist on Tuesday, and get the message...

[Serpo]

There are many testimonials from those who have benefited from the use of dandelions in the treatment of what ailed them.

Robert Stickle, an internationally famous architect, was diagnosed as having a malignant melanoma 21 years ago, and was given, after radical surgery had not halted its spread, less than 2 years to live. He said, in a letter to Jeff Zullo, president of the Society for the Promotion of Dandelions, (June 23, 1986):

" I went on a search for the answer to my mortal problem, and [discovered] that perhaps it was a nutritional dilemma.... To me, cancer is primarily a liver failure manifestation. {Italians are very concerned about problems of the 'fegato']. [I discovered that] the cancer rate in native Italians is very low among the farming population (paesanos). When they get affluent and move to the city, its the same as the rest of civilized man. Paesanos eat dandelions, make brew from the roots, and are healthy, often living to over 100 years."

He states that he began eating dandelion salad every day, and his improvement confounded the doctors. When he wrote the letter in 1986, 18 years had passed and there had been no recurrence of the melanoma.

http://www.leaflady.org/health_benefits_of_dandelions.htm

salad recipe
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/dandelion-salad/ (http://www.leaflady.org/health_benefits_of_dandelions.htm)

[optionT]

Prayer sent your dads way, I hope he beats it! Keep us updated with the dandilion root tea.

[MNeagle]

My vet had me use Manuka honey to treat a surgical wound on my dog that wouldn't heal. She had a huge tumor removed and afterwards all her sutures/staples fell out, leaving a gaping wound about 4 inches across. After 6 weeks of ineffective antibiotics and topical creams, we were at our wits end. The vet suggested off the record that I try honey, and sure enough after about a week the open wound had filled in with new skin. Today, it's scarred, hairless and ugly, but I'm a believer there's something to Ponce's article.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?59632-Mysterious-Honey-Discovered-That-Kills-All-Bacteria-Scientists-Throw-At-It&highlight=manuka+honey

[Serpo]

You know the most annoying thing is that when something like this works and it is cheap to use ect ,it is completely ignored by the medical establishment.

I mean its like bashing your head against a brick wall.

Things may work over and over and over but unless its from a pharm co then its ignored.Generally this is the case.

[Cebu_4_2]

Not generally but the norm. If they stray amongst their schooling they will lose their license and their living.

[zap]

Neuro (http://gold-silver.us/forum/member.php?3346-Neuro), God Bless your Dad, prayer sent his way !!!!!


And keep up with the dandelions and any other green products, I truly believe diet has a major impact on cancer and health in general.

I don't know why this is all bold and colored text?

Computer Illiterate I guess, hugs to you and a great big hug to your Father.

[zap]

And for PONCE, SUGAR is toxic..... knock it off stay away from it!!! it affects your Blood Pressure which you have said is High, Cancer thrives on it cancer cells require lots of it to multiply, and I am sure it kills us sooner then we know.

When my sis got cancer(she smoked though) , she had been eating alot of sweet rolls which she had never ever done before, I asked her one time what the hell are you eating ? she had always been skinny as a rail and she was up about 20 pounds, which was ok in her case ,she was never overweight she just looked healthy for a change, 130lbs @ 5' 8" , I believe the added sugar helped the cancer along, my grandpa at 94 hasn't ever eaten added sugar nor my grandma at 90 ....neither has cancer? Is it the sugar? I don't know but I think it is toxic and I won't eat any added Sugar or Honey or Fake Sugar.

[Neuro]

Slightly unrelated, but my dad has cancer, malignant melanoma, that spread to his lungs, liver and a lymph node, and he started drinking dandelion root tea, on my suggestion, because it has been proven to induce cell death specifically in malignant melanoma cells, in the test tube. I told him to put some honey in it because it may have a bitter taste, he told me he didn't have any honey so he put sugar in it. Of course generally speaking sugar is food for cancer, but after thinking about it, I thought that maybe it is good, as the cancer cells get activated and starts devouring the sugar, they also take in the active substances of the dandelion root, further the sugar probably will activate and enhance the intestinal absorption of the tea components. As it is it is a bit of a shot in the dark anyway, with this type of cancer it would be a miracle if he survived one year (it is like a 1% chance of that statistically), average life expectancy for a malignant melanoma as spread as his would be somewhere between 2-4 months, and that is with the standard medical treatment (chemotherapy). He'll go to the oncologist on Tuesday, and get the message...
OK here is the update. My dad went to the oncologist, and told him that he was going to Thailand for a month in March, and told the oncologist that he was drinking this dandelion root tea on my suggestion, 3-5 cups a day. The oncologist was aware of the anti-cancer properties of dandelion root, but that he couldn't officially recommend it since it wasn't a pharmaceutical, normally they would put my dad on chemotherapy directly, but since he was going to Thailand, which he wouldn't recommend from a medical viewpoint, he told him to continue with the dandelion root tea, and then they would take a new x-ray, see how the cancer had developed, and if it hadn't grown then he could continue with the dandelion root.

So dad came back from Thailand, had a new x-ray, and the lung cancer had grown from 11mm diameter to 19mm, there was nothing in the liver (possibly it wasn't from the beginning either, a false positive). So they put him on chemotherapy, which in my dad had very mild side-effects, during the 5 days he was taking it, after a month he (my dad) thought the tumor on his back had shrunk, after three months they were gone, the x-ray at three month follow up showed the lung tumor to fade in its intensity, dad continued to take the chemo 5 days every month, feeling mostly good all the time, continued working as a carpenter (he is actually retired since 15 years, but he does these cash jobs), and at the 6 month follow up, the cancer in the lung and the lymph nodes according to the x-ray was GONE! The oncologist had said that the chemo may control the growth or in some cases even shrink the cancer, but never eradicate it. Anyway 2 weeks ago my dad went to Thailand again, he'll be there for 5 months this time...

Anyway this is what I think happened in my dads case: The dandelion root weakened the cellular structure of the cancer, the growth from 11 to 19 mm over two months in malignant melanoma, is actually unusually small, it is a very Agressive cancer, and as I said in the above post most people die within 2-4 months of a diagnosis of grade 4 malignant melanoma. The cancer cells in their weakened state was easily killed off with the chemotherapy.

Anyway thank god my dad is still alive and in good health!

[Cebu_4_2]

Awesome!!! Thanks for the honest update Neuro!

[Neuro]

Awesome!!! Thanks for the honest update Neuro!
Yes, it really is a miracle I think!

[BrewTech]

Don't know if this theory has been presented, but I'm too lazy too read through the entire thread...


Is it possible that wild yeasts present in the air (Saccharomyces) ferment the sugar creating alcohol and lowering the pH at the wound site, thereby killing bacteria there, allowing the wound to heal faster? One of the key ways to limit microbial attack in brewing is ensuring the yeast get a fast start reproducing/fermenting in the wort just for this purpose...

Just a thought.

[Neuro]

Don't know if this theory has been presented, but I'm too lazy too read through the entire thread...


Is it possible that wild yeasts present in the air (Saccharomyces) ferment the sugar creating alcohol and lowering the pH at the wound site, thereby killing bacteria there, allowing the wound to heal faster? One of the key ways to limit microbial attack in brewing is ensuring the yeast get a fast start reproducing/fermenting in the wort just for this purpose...

Just a thought.
Could wild yeast ferment what is almost pure sugar in this case? Yes I have seen that yeast and fungus are far more capable of feeding on high sugar foods, like jam, compared to bacterias, but I haven't seen it attack syrup for instance...

[Ponce]

Hummmmmmmmmmm, in that case......why not peanut butter?, as you know it never spoils.....find the "real" one and just let it sit for a couple of weeks and the heavy stuff will sit at the bottom of the container and what you will have at the top is pure oil.

V

[vacuum]

OK here is the update. My dad went to the oncologist, and told him that he was going to Thailand for a month in March, and told the oncologist that he was drinking this dandelion root tea on my suggestion, 3-5 cups a day. The oncologist was aware of the anti-cancer properties of dandelion root, but that he couldn't officially recommend it since it wasn't a pharmaceutical, normally they would put my dad on chemotherapy directly, but since he was going to Thailand, which he wouldn't recommend from a medical viewpoint, he told him to continue with the dandelion root tea, and then they would take a new x-ray, see how the cancer had developed, and if it hadn't grown then he could continue with the dandelion root.

So dad came back from Thailand, had a new x-ray, and the lung cancer had grown from 11mm diameter to 19mm, there was nothing in the liver (possibly it wasn't from the beginning either, a false positive). So they put him on chemotherapy, which in my dad had very mild side-effects, during the 5 days he was taking it, after a month he (my dad) thought the tumor on his back had shrunk, after three months they were gone, the x-ray at three month follow up showed the lung tumor to fade in its intensity, dad continued to take the chemo 5 days every month, feeling mostly good all the time, continued working as a carpenter (he is actually retired since 15 years, but he does these cash jobs), and at the 6 month follow up, the cancer in the lung and the lymph nodes according to the x-ray was GONE! The oncologist had said that the chemo may control the growth or in some cases even shrink the cancer, but never eradicate it. Anyway 2 weeks ago my dad went to Thailand again, he'll be there for 5 months this time...

Anyway this is what I think happened in my dads case: The dandelion root weakened the cellular structure of the cancer, the growth from 11 to 19 mm over two months in malignant melanoma, is actually unusually small, it is a very Agressive cancer, and as I said in the above post most people die within 2-4 months of a diagnosis of grade 4 malignant melanoma. The cancer cells in their weakened state was easily killed off with the chemotherapy.

Anyway thank god my dad is still alive and in good health!

Amazing. How long was he in Thailand the first time? It looks like the combination of dandelion root tea, possibly going to Thailand (spicy unprocessed food? women?), and chemo, pretty much beat the cancer.

[milehi]

Just yesterday morning, people were calling in to the morning radio show with their stories of at home surgery. One guy (they were all men) called in and said he had removed a cyst with an exacto knife, then filled the wound with powdered sugar where it healed perfectly. I have to add that the cyst was on his penis. He thought it was a std but tested ok. No insurance so he went to town.

[Neuro]

Amazing. How long was he in Thailand the first time? It looks like the combination of dandelion root tea, possibly going to Thailand (spicy unprocessed food? women?), and chemo, pretty much beat the cancer.
He went to Thailand first in November 2012 for three weeks, met his current Thai galfriend, got diagnosed w cancer in end of January. Started w dandelion roots in beginning of February. Went to Thailand in March for a month. Started chemo in end of April.

I wouldn't rule out that love has something to do with it either. Another thing, the tumors on his skin, which actually were subdermal didn't look like the typical malignant melanoma... But they excised one of them and it was malignant melanoma... So it being an atypical mm may have something to do with it also... Doesn't really matter in this case, he is alive and well and I am happy for that, but the scientist in me, would like to know.

My feeling is that the Dandelion root itself wouldn't be able to do it alone, because he did get worse while he took it, but I do think that it may have done more to the outcome than chemo would have done on its own...

[lapis]

What an amazing story! Thanks for sharing, Neuro.

[BrewTech]

Could wild yeast ferment what is almost pure sugar in this case? Yes I have seen that yeast and fungus are far more capable of feeding on high sugar foods, like jam, compared to bacterias, but I haven't seen it attack syrup for instance...

Saccharomyces Cerevisiae is a single-celled fungus capable of metabolizing only simple sugar molecules, sucrose being one of them. It won't use more complex dextrins.

So, yeah, it would ferment pure sugar easily. That's it's whole reason for being!