Reaching Nirvana....... by me........... v

[Ponce]

Reaching Nirvana means that you are perfect......well, we are born perfect, clean of heart, mind and soul......but....... then man fill us with the wrong things so that we become inperfect, then many spend years trying to become once again what they had at one time........did we came from heaven and into hell? does this means that this is the hell that so many are so afraid of going to when they "die"........does to die means that is really to be reborn and then going back to heaven?................maybe the Muslims are right about the 73 virgins in heaven.

So many are trying to get ready for dying that they don't enjoy what is right infront of them...to me heaven or hell is what you yourself have created here on Earth.
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An ashtray is and ashtray because that was what you were tough that it is.....but.....you should know by now that and ashtray has many many more uses rather than a simple ashtray, you should read the new the same way....the news is nothing more than letters shown to you (or spoken words) that tells you what they want you to know and not the truth of what is going on so that you must find out what they really don't want you to know and why, once you find this out then you will learn what the real new is...........Is the news behind the news what counts.

I am not preaching, only thinking.

V

[woodman]

we are born perfect, clean of heart, mind and soul......but....... then man fill us with the wrong things so that we become inperfect, then many spend years trying to become once again what they had at one time........did we came from heaven and into hell? does this means that this is the hell that so many are so afraid of going to when they "die"........does to die means that is really to be reborn and then going back to heaven?................maybe the Muslims are right about the 73 virgins in heaven.

I am not preaching, only thinking.

V

A snippet of a poem
From Wordsworth, one of my favorite poems: Intimations of Imortality From recollections of Childhood



Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting:




The Soul that rises with us, our life's Star,

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Hath had elsewhere its setting,




And cometh from afar:




Not in entire forgetfulness,




And not in utter nakedness,




But trailing clouds of glory do we come

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From God, who is our home:




Heaven lies about us in our infancy!




Shades of the prison-house begin to close




Upon the growing Boy,








Lines Written Above Tinturn Abbey is a good one too.

Soetimes the old poets really nailed it.

Paradise Lost.

[Ponce]

First time that I die it was at 17, second time at 22 and the third time at 29.......all three times all that I did was to wake up from a sleep..........when I woke up the first time my dad was there (I was in Miami and him in Cuba) the second time a medic and the third time the Dr in a tux..........and that's why I am not afraid to die......all that I will do is go to sleep once again.

V

[woodman]

First time that I die it was at 17, second time at 22 and the third time at 29.......all three times all that I did was to wake up from a sleep..........when I woke up the first time my dad was there (I was in Miami and him in Cuba) the second time a medic and the third time the Dr in a tux..........and that's why I am not afraid to die......all that I will do is go to sleep once again.

V

How did these events occur Ponce? Was it accidents?

I am not so sure I am afraid of death or just the little time in between, the dying part.

[zap]

I'm not afraid of dying, I am afraid of leaving the living who depend on me.

Once my little one is grown and has a family of her own then I will have no fear of death.

Maybe it will be nice to have peace and go home?

[woodman]

I'm not afraid of dying, I am afraid of leaving the living who depend on me.

Once my little one is grown and has a family of her own then I will have no fear of death.

Maybe it will be nice to have peace and go home?

Yes, indeed. It would be nice to have one's affairs in order too. I think if I died today, I'd wish things had been neatly decided for who gets what. I would also worry that those I love would have a rough time. Ego is a strange thing, almost like a scab that forms or a shell to dissever one from the worldly existence. I think it separates us from our maker and true self.

An old freind of mine died recently. He was a soldier and a violent man in his youth. A pathfinder during Nam. As an older fellow he was quite different. He died of lung cancer. He was afraid of the great beyond. I think he was worried about the deeds of his youth and going to hell. It is hard to comfort someone who has that fear. You can tell them that all that stuff is just said to keep the ignorant paying their tithes to the church, but in the end they have to forgive themself. He was a good man and will be missed.


I can see how one might actually feel a sense of 'going home' and peace at the thought of no more worry or struggle. Maybe death is the only freedom we will ever know.

[zap]

Yes, indeed. It would be nice to have one's affairs in order too. I think if I died today, I'd wish things had been neatly decided for who gets what. I would also worry that those I love would have a rough time. Ego is a strange thing, almost like a scab that forms or a shell to dissever one from the worldly existence. I think it separates us from our maker and true self.

An old freind of mine died recently. He was a soldier and a violent man in his youth. A pathfinder during Nam. As an older fellow he was quite different. He died of lung cancer. He was afraid of the great beyond. I think he was worried about the deeds of his youth and going to hell. It is hard to comfort someone who has that fear. You can tell them that all that stuff is just said to keep the ignorant paying their tithes to the church, but in the end they have to forgive themself. He was a good man and will be missed.


I can see how one might actually feel a sense of 'going home' and peace at the thought of no more worry or struggle. Maybe death is the only freedom we will ever know.

That was a nice post Madfranks,

I have everything in order, LOL everything goes to my little girl, and her guardians are appointed 3 of them, her aunt and her 2 daughters, in a living trust ....she will be fine money wise, but I am hoping I don't go until she has a family of her own, how hard would it be for a little girl to lose her dad and her mom too?

Your friend... I will thank him for his service, they thought they were doing the right thing as did so many others, God Bless Him! and I really hope there is something on the other side.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS-gwb8eSc0

[Ponce]

Well woddy, first time playing with a friend I flew over his shoulder and landed on my head...the secontime time I stepped on a land mine, or something that went boommmmmm, and the third time on the operating table (bike accident)...to much oxigene.

V