87-Year-Old Shoots Man Attacking Pregnant Woman

[Cebu_4_2]

87-Year-Old Shoots Man Attacking Pregnant Woman by James Tarr | February 25, 2013
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One of the old liberal snide comments about male gun owners is, “They must be compensating for something.” The best response I’ve seen for that is the women’s T-shirt in favor of owning assault rifles, because, “I’m compensating for being smaller and weaker than most male attackers.”
Recently in Roswell, N.M., a 24-year-old pregnant female resident of an apartment building was doing laundry with her 3-year-old daughter when a male neighbor, 49-year-old Larrell Stell, started talking to her and took off her shirt, according to KRQE (http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/armed-87-year-old-saves-woman-cops). He then made sexual advances toward her; when she rebuffed him, he got upset and pushed her down. She then grabbed her child and ran to her landlord’s house next door.
Stell attacked her at her landlord’s house, pushed her down and punched her face repeatedly. The landlord tried to break up the assault, but was not able to—perhaps because he is 87 years old. So the landlord went and got his handgun, and when Stell continued to assault the woman, the landlord shot him in the torso. Stell then tried to attack the landlord, so he shot him again.
Check out the video from KRQE.com.
For some reason it appears that the police weren’t called to the scene, as Stell continued to pace around the property for an hour, even after being shot twice. If the cops didn’t come on their own after reports of gun shots and shouting, it sounds like this is a neighborhood where you need a gun to protect yourself.
Stell then turned off the woman’s electricity—which is admittedly weird—and then drove himself to the hospital. It appears the police were called to the hospital by the medical staff, and then investigated the incident. Stell, if you can believe it, was uncooperative.
“From the information that we’ve been given, we think it sounds fortunate that the landlord was armed in this case,” said Lt. Britt Snyder of the Chaves County (N.M.) Sheriff’s Department. “He certainly would have been no match for a man that’s 40 years younger than him.”
Gee, ya think? The guy was shot twice and still walked around for an hour before driving himself to the hospital. Beating up a pregnant woman and senior citizen is a lot easier when one of them doesn’t have a gun, apparently.
“Having taken action with a handgun may have prevented a possible murder, maybe the murder of both of them,” Snyder said. “We don’t know.” At this point, Snyder said, it appears the landlord will not be facing charges.

[Serpo]

This guy had to be on something like meth to take 3 shots and drive himself to hospital, dont you think,

[madfranks]

This guy had to be on something like meth to take 3 shots and drive himself to hospital, dont you think,

Agreed, he was most likely on behavior modifying drugs, maybe legal, maybe illegal.

[brosil]

He might have been shot with a mouse gun like a .25 caliber. You can take multiple hits in areas not immediately fatal with those and still walk and fight. The probability of drugs is very high though.

[NOOB]

Most handgun wounds are not fatal or immediately stop someone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wXwPtP-KDNk

[Twisted Titan]

Having taken action with a handgun may have prevented a possible murder, maybe the murder of both of them,” Snyder said. “We don’t know.” At this point, Snyder said.



What the eff you think was going to happen if the man didnt have a gun? The soon to be rapist and murderer was going to magically come tp his senses and apologize?

Christ what a effing dipsh!t.

[Twisted Titan]

Oh yeah

NO MORE HESITATION

Really does work when the gun is in the right hands

[Tumbleweed]

I like the fact that the old man just shot the bastard and took care of it himself then didn't bother calling the cops.

[Cebu_4_2]

Most handgun wounds are not fatal or immediately stop someone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wXwPtP-KDNk

9x18 Makarov, they have hollow points but are not recommended. ;-]

[Hitch]

I like the fact that the old man just shot the bastard and took care of it himself then didn't bother calling the cops.

I like that too. The old man was from a different time, where men just handled things. We live in a different time now, unfortunately.

[General of Darkness]

He should have shot him the dick so he bleeds out.

[Santa]

I like that too. The old man was from a different time, where men just handled things. We live in a different time now, unfortunately.


Cops are the LAST people anyone should call for help. Especially these days.

[Hitch]

Cops are the LAST people anyone should call for help. Especially these days.

LE swear an oath to uphold the Constitution. To protect and serve the public. That oath is a serious one, you put your life on the line defending that oath.

Call LE for help, by all means, but don't expect them to get there when you need them. If they can get there in time, great. Otherwise do what you need to do to protect your rights.

[Santa]

LE swear an oath to uphold the Constitution. To protect and serve the public.

Yeah, every politician swears that oath too.

[Hitch]

Yeah, every politician swears that oath too.

Santa, this is one area I feel positive for the future on. Most LE are pro constitution, pro guns, particularly 2nd amendment. You don't become a cop if you are against scary guns, you have to at least be comfortable with them.

I wouldn't want to be LE right now. They face some tough choices, if it comes down to it...they will have to choose whether to enforce these unconstitutional laws if/when they come out.

There's the spirit of the law, and there's the letter of the law. If an unconstitutional law is passed to grab guns, I really think most LE will follow the spirit of the law, and choose not to enforce it.

.Gov wants our guns. LE at the end of the day are people, your neighbors. I hope I'm right about this. I don't see them enforcing the gungrabber's agenda.

[Santa]

History proves otherwise. All drug laws are unconstitutional. Cops show no compunction whatsoever busting people for possession every day. They're just employee's of the State. Fuck cops.

While there may have been a handful of relatively decent individuals that have worn police uniforms throughout history, the Police State Industry in general is a SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST and AUTHORITARIAN beast that needs to die a horrible agonizing death, YESTERDAY.

Personally, I don't give a rats ass about the legality of anything I do or don't do. My conscience is my guide, not the fucking State Legislators or the Penal Code.

If I ever do need help, (God help me), I'd rather call a plumber, a baker, a neighbor or even a garbage man than a cop. At least those people actually know how to do something constructive.

Cops are revenue collectors for the State. That's it! They deserve less respect or honor in general than hotel maids or garbage men or fruit pickers.

[woodman]

Santa, this is one area I feel positive for the future on. Most LE are pro constitution, pro guns, particularly 2nd amendment. You don't become a cop if you are against scary guns, you have to at least be comfortable with them.

I wouldn't want to be LE right now. They face some tough choices, if it comes down to it...they will have to choose whether to enforce these unconstitutional laws if/when they come out.

There's the spirit of the law, and there's the letter of the law. If an unconstitutional law is passed to grab guns, I really think most LE will follow the spirit of the law, and choose not to enforce it.

.Gov wants our guns. LE at the end of the day are people, your neighbors. I hope I'm right about this. I don't see them enforcing the gungrabber's agenda.


History and personal experience bears out the fact that cops are swine. Some kind of sick personality disorder compels them to gravitate to a position where they can abuse others with impunity.

What is the common denominator of any police state? Hint, it's in the name. Without cops, the elite would have to do an honest days work.

[Hitch]

Cops are revenue collectors for the State. That's it! They deserve less respect or honor in general than hotel maids or garbage men or fruit pickers.

We should respect all working folks, maids, garbage men, and fruit pickers.

You have to understand, this forum is maybe 1% of the population in awareness. At best, 1%. You don't need cops, but the 99% + folks do.

I've busted many turds, predators harming sheep. I do not regret that at all.

You have to understand humanity.

[woodman]

We should respect all working folks, maids, garbage men, and fruit pickers.

You have to understand, this forum is maybe 1% of the population in awareness. At best, 1%. You don't need cops, but the 99% + folks do.

I've busted many turds, predators harming sheep. I do not regret that at all.

You have to understand humanity.


How many lives have you destroyed by enforcing unjust laws? As a cop, don't tell me you picked and chose which folks you put the hurting on. If you saw anyone breaking any little statute, you went after them with malice. Don't tell me you didn't. If you are sincerely sorry for the grief and harm you did to your fellow man, then I guess you are a changed man. Are you a changed man?

[Hitch]

How many lives have you destroyed by enforcing unjust laws? As a cop, don't tell me you picked and chose which folks you put the hurting on. If you saw anyone breaking any little statute, you went after them with malice. Don't tell me you didn't. If you are sincerely sorry for the grief and harm you did to your fellow man, then I guess you are a changed man. Are you a changed man?

Woodman, I am not a cop. It's been quite awhile. My beat was very active. Quite busy, we did not have time for traffic stops or most BS. We were lights and sirens the whole shift, drawing our guns on turds each night.

I am not sorry for anything. I treated folks well, even the turds. Respect is big in the inner cities. That is all they have. If you respect them and treat them well, that goes a long way. When people have nothing, their pride is very valuable.

The only thing I've changed over the years, is my profound support for our constitution. I upheld it when I held a badge. Just didn't realize how important that was until these days now.

Our rights are under attack.

[Santa]

Hitcher, please don't take this topic personally. My opinions are about cops in general. Not about you as an individual.

The only good cop is an ex-cop. Cops don't know dick about either the Constitution OR Humanity. If they did, they'd quit being cops.

Cops are goons hired by the State to protect the State's Corporate interests so it can continue taking revenue from the populace.

They often romanticize and even glamorize the nature of their game, but make no mistake, they're game is to take.

[Hitch]

Hitcher, please don't take this topic personally. My opinions are about cops in general. Not about you as an individual.

The only good cop is an ex-cop. Cops don't know dick about either the Constitution OR Humanity. If they did, they'd quit being cops.

Cops are goons hired by the State to protect the State's Corporate interests so it can continue taking revenue from the populace.

They often romanticize and even glamorize the nature of their game, but make no mistake, they're game is to take.

Cheers Santa, nothing personal taken. Just a good discussion, that is all.

The whole cop opinion on this forum, I just can't identify with and understand, to be honest. I know there is corruption, there is an any organization. I just never saw it.

This is coming from someone who was sworn it. Yes, I was a cop. I never saw any abuse of power, any corruption, the exact opposite. We were battered with ethics tests. Constantly our character was watched. They would stash money in our patrol cars, staged, to see if we'd take it without reporting it.

I served with good folks, just good people. I don't expect anything I post will be listened to, or understood, but I feel a duty to post what I feel is the truth. That is all.

[Santa]

Cheers Santa, nothing personal taken. Just a good discussion, that is all.

The whole cop opinion on this forum, I just can't identify with and understand, to be honest. I know there is corruption, there is an any organization. I just never saw it.

This is coming from someone who was sworn it. Yes, I was a cop. I never saw any abuse of power, any corruption, the exact opposite. We were battered with ethics tests. Constantly our character was watched. They would stash money in our patrol cars, staged, to see if we'd take it without reporting it.

I served with good folks, just good people. I don't expect anything I post will be listened to, or understood, but I feel a duty to post what I feel is the truth. That is all.

And all the while, as you and your comrades were patting one another on the back as you always do, you were violently throwing citizens in prison in such vast numbers that not even the Soviet Russians or Communist Chinese could compare. Yet you never noticed any corruption. And for what, exactly? For a paycheck, for profit, for prestige?

[woodman]

Our rights are under attack.


Yes, our rights are under attack. By the police state that has been erected around us. The police are the enforcers of those who are attacking our rights. Don't you agree?

[woodman]

We were battered with ethics tests. Constantly our character was watched. They would stash money in our patrol cars, staged, to see if we'd take it without reporting

Did it never occur to you that they were testing you to see if you were dishonest enough to be trusted? A dishonest man is easily trusted by those who know his character and can use him.

[Santa]

Yes, our rights are under attack. By the police state that has been erected around us. The police are the enforcers of those who are attacking our rights. Don't you agree?
Yes. Either you are on the side of The People, as per your Constitutional Oath or you are on the side of the Police State.

[woodman]

Hitcher, Solid, I have nothing against you personally. I have been accosted by police and beaten down by the system they support. I have no feeling of empathy or kindness for them or what they represent. You make it sound as though you were personally there, like Dudley Doright, saving fair maidens from rape and poor widows from robbery. The reality is that the cops can never be there when the crime is being committed except by blind luck. In my experience they come after the fact and punish the first innocent fool dumb enough to be caught any where near the event.

[woodman]

Yes. Either you are on the side of The People, as per your Constitutional Oath or you are on the side of the Police State.


Yup. Can't be both. The two are mutually exclusive.

[Santa]

One cannot be a GOON working for the Police State and uphold one's Constitutional Oath.

[Hitch]

Did it never occur to you that they were testing you to see if you were dishonest enough to be trusted? A dishonest man is easily trusted by those who know his character and can use him.

You are thinking too deep into this. They tested us to see if we'd do the right thing, the just thing. I can say with 100% certainty that folks who were unethical were dealt with, most likely removed from service.

[Hitch]

One cannot be a GOON working for the Police State and uphold one's Constitutional Oath.

There's men and women who are serving our country upholding our constitution. Yes they do wear a badge.

I respect your posts Santa. You are wrong here however. I know this is a fact.

[Santa]

You are thinking too deep into this.

Hitcher, brotha,... you're not thinking deep enough into this. Lol...

Who do I really think it gonna be.... who come to take my guns from me?

[Hitch]

Who do I really think it gonna be.... who come to take my guns from me?

Maybe the same thugs who are going to try and take my guns away.

You are not an ex cop. You haven't been profiled on this forum, like I have. Since the whole Dorner thing, I am concerned.

I know I'm in the system. I know I'm a target for the .gov goons.

[Libertytree]

Hitcher, just as we are among the 1% who are aware, I think that that perhaps you were among the 1% in LE who aren't on an ego/power trip and actually give a shit about what they're doing. You're one of 3 ex-cops I've known and all of you are good people IMO, I think that there's a good and logical reason why good people wind up being ex-cops.

[Cebu_4_2]

Maybe the same thugs who are going to try and take my guns away.

You are not an ex cop. You haven't been profiled on this forum, like I have. Since the whole Dorner thing, I am concerned.

I know I'm in the system. I know I'm a target for the .gov goons.

No man, your a good guy but have LEO in your system. Just being in here I know you have a heart and also a goal to uphold the constitution. The problem is the 'new' LEO's are trained even for more BS, much more severe than you had in training.

[Santa]

http://youtu.be/C3NQyMqu4Ek

[Hitch]

No man, your a good guy but have LEO in your system. Just being in here I know you have a heart and also a goal to uphold the constitution. The problem is the 'new' LEO's are trained even for more BS, much more severe than you had in training.

Thanks for the kind words, Cebu. You too LT.

Here's what is happening right now. .Gov wants to disarm anyone who has professional training. They are declaring 50% of soldiers returning from Afghan as mentally disabled. They are disarming all mentally disabled soldiers. They have to turn in their guns. The media is not reporting this. Navy Seals, etc.

The first step is for .gov to disarm whom they feel are the most trained. The Dorner episode, means that all ex cops are suspect terrorists. That's crazy, my training was excellent, but I'm rusty. I'd bet most folks on this forum are a better shot than me.

Yet, I'll be the first one on this forum who has to deal with someone trying to take my guns.

[Cebu_4_2]

Thanks for the kind words, Cebu. You too LT.

Here's what is happening right now. .Gov wants to disarm anyone who has professional training. They are declaring 50% of soldiers returning from Afghan as mentally disabled. They are disarming all mentally disabled soldiers. They have to turn in their guns. The media is not reporting this. Navy Seals, etc.

The first step is for .gov to disarm whom they feel are the most trained. The Dorner episode, means that all ex cops are suspect terrorists. That's crazy, my training was excellent, but I'm rusty. I'd bet most folks on this forum are a better shot than me.

Yet, I'll be the first one on this forum who has to deal with someone trying to take my guns.

Can I quote this?

[Roland]

I have to say A LOT of leo's are not out there with intent to harm the public.

How ever many see them self's in a different light then the people they "protect and serve" or wield power over, they see them self's as better then civilians and will act to maintain their power in rough times. Often these are the same people you wouldn't want anything to do in normal life and they come to work like they are about to invade Poland.

The far more potent force i believe are the men(and ladies) of integrity whom work in our comunities and are trusted by those around them. These people will lead in tough times and will listen to the people for their interests are the same.

Get to know the law in the county. Im proud of my sheriff. promotes gun rights for everybody, told the fda to eat a bag of dicks when they tried to stop the raw milk produces in our county- that's right folks you can walk into the store here and buy raw milk. Has cracked down on the real drug issues like crack (<-see what I did there) and meth. and is promoting a smaller department in favor of deputizing local members of the community to protect there neighborhoods.


Granted its not Oakland its a mostly white county that is in the foothills of California. the real burden here is a corrupt city council and clueless white folks whose wallets haven't been hit hard enough to wake up yet, but there's useless eaters everywhere

[woodman]

You are thinking too deep into this. They tested us to see if we'd do the right thing, the just thing. I can say with 100% certainty that folks who were unethical were dealt with, most likely removed from service.

I'm certain they were being tested for their usefuleness to the cabal. If they did dissapear, they were probably promoted to bigger and better things. I don't think you really understand just what you were working for. This makes me question your intelligence and your gullibility. The government is organized crime. The cops are the enforces for organized crime. It really is that simple. It is not hard to comprehend. Let me try to say it another way:

All the numerous laws that have been put into effect in the last 100 years since the Federal Reserve took control of our nation, have been promulgated for a reason, with a clear agenda in mind, although hidden. Every civil government has been occupied. It is a massive network. It is all encompassing and over arching, almost like something out of The Lord of the Rings, an evil and omnipresent occupational force that has slowly and inexorably tightened it's grip upon a once open and decent society. The cops are the bag-men and enforcers of this organized crime outfit that has siezed power over every aspect of our lives. This is clear to me and I don't know how anyone can see it else-wise. The elite want total control over the rest of society. This is their end game. It is their only driving force besides greed. Greed and power are the only things they value.

Let me say it again; the cops are their enforcers. Government is organized crime because it is led by criminals for nefarious ends. There is an agenda to hold total power over the common man. They want every one to be a compliant slave. Most cops resent the fact that the common man is able to bear arms. They do not want the average citiaen to be armed because this is an attack on their legitimacy and needfullness. We do not need them. Really, what do we need them for?

Beyond a couple of well trained detectives to solve crimes such as conspiracies or crimes of momental passion and a very small force to apprehend the occasional bad-guy, the bulk of cops should be out making an honest living by producing something of value. Most cops are un-needed and a malign influence upon society. I really have to question the motivation of anyone who becomes a cop. I seriously regard it as a sickness, a personality defect. There is something twisted inside them that compels them to seek out a position where they can lord it over common people. This is becomeing increasingly obvious to more and more as people are suffering or seeing friends and loved ones suffer at the hands of the government goons.

[Roland]

Every single city in america is a "person" and the local pd are nothing more then administrators collecting fees for breaking commercial codes

[mick silver]

Thanks for the kind words, Cebu. You too LT.

Here's what is happening right now. .Gov wants to disarm anyone who has professional training. They are declaring 50% of soldiers returning from Afghan as mentally disabled. They are disarming all mentally disabled soldiers. They have to turn in their guns. The media is not reporting this. Navy Seals, etc.

The first step is for .gov to disarm whom they feel are the most trained. The Dorner episode, means that all ex cops are suspect terrorists. That's crazy, my training was excellent, but I'm rusty. I'd bet most folks on this forum are a better shot than me.

Yet, I'll be the first one on this forum who has to deal with someone trying to take my guns.
back up for more to see hitcher post . like i have said before theys guys are to well trained . i know a few of them ....