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General of Darkness
28th February 2013, 06:29 PM
Just for Shami.

I guess there might be something to get in the kitchen and make me a sammich. hehehehehehehehe

What Housework Has to Do With Waistlines By GRETCHEN REYNOLDS (http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/author/gretchen-reynolds/)http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/02/27/health/27well_vacuum/27well_vacuum-tmagArticle-v2.jpgJustin Pumfrey/Getty Images



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Phys Ed (http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/category/fitness/phys-ed/)Gretchen Reynolds on the science of fitness.



One reason so many American women are overweight may be that we are vacuuming and doing laundry less often, according to a new study that, while scrupulously even-handed, is likely to stir controversy and emotions.


The study, published this month in PLoS One (http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0056620), is a follow-up to an influential 2011 report (http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0019657) which used data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics to determine that, during the past 50 years, most American workers began sitting down on the job. Physical activity at work, such as walking or lifting, almost vanished, according to the data, with workers now spending most of their time seated before a computer or talking on the phone. Consequently, the authors found, the average American worker was burning almost 150 fewer calories daily at work than his or her employed parents had, a change that had materially contributed to the rise in obesity during the same time frame, especially among men, the authors concluded.


But that study, while fascinating, was narrow, focusing only on people with formal jobs. It overlooked a large segment of the population, namely a lot of women.

“Fifty years ago, a majority of women did not work outside of the home,” said Edward Archer, a research fellow with the Arnold School of Public Health at the University of South Carolina in Columbia, and lead author of the new study.


So, in collaboration with many of the authors of the earlier study of occupational physical activity, Dr. Archer set out to find data about how women had once spent their hours at home and whether and how their patterns of movement had changed over the years.


He found the information he needed in the American Heritage Time Use Study, a remarkable archive of “time-use diaries” provided by thousands of women beginning in 1965. Because Dr. Archer wished to examine how women in a variety of circumstances spent their time around the house, he gathered diaries from both working and non-employed women, starting with those in 1965 and extending through 2010.

He and his colleagues then pulled data from the diaries about how many hours the women were spending in various activities, how many calories they likely were expending in each of those tasks, and how the activities and associated energy expenditures changed over the years.


As it turned out, their findings broadly echoed those of the occupational time-use study. Women, they found, once had been quite physically active around the house, spending, in 1965, an average of 25.7 hours a week cleaning, cooking and doing laundry. Those activities, whatever their social freight, required the expenditure of considerable energy. (The authors did not include child care time in their calculations, since the women’s diary entries related to child care were inconsistent and often overlapped those of other activities.) In general at that time, working women devoted somewhat fewer hours to housework, while those not employed outside the home spent more.

Forty-five years later, in 2010, things had changed dramatically. By then, the time-use diaries showed, women were spending an average of 13.3 hours per week on housework.

More striking, the diary entries showed, women at home were now spending far more hours sitting in front of a screen. In 1965, women typically had spent about eight hours a week sitting and watching television. (Home computers weren’t invented yet.)


By 2010, those hours had more than doubled, to 16.5 hours per week. In essence, women had exchanged time spent in active pursuits, like vacuuming, for time spent being sedentary.

In the process, they had also greatly reduced the number of calories that they typically expended during their hours at home. According to the authors’ calculations, American women not employed outside the home were burning about 360 fewer calories every day in 2010 than they had in 1965, with working women burning about 132 fewer calories at home each day in 2010 than in 1965.


“Those are large reductions in energy expenditure,” Dr. Archer said, and would result, over the years, in significant weight gain without reductions in caloric intake.


What his study suggests, Dr. Archer continued, is that “we need to start finding ways to incorporate movement back into” the hours spent at home.


This does not mean, he said, that women — or men — should be doing more housework. For one thing, the effort involved is such activities today is less than it once was. Using modern, gliding vacuum cleaners is less taxing than struggling with the clunky, heavy machines once available, and thank goodness for that.


Nor is more time spent helping around the house a guarantee of more activity, over all. A telling 2012 study of television viewing habits (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22297804) found that when men increased the number of hours they spent on housework, they also greatly increased the hours they spent sitting in front of the TV, presumably because it was there and beckoning.


Instead, Dr. Archer said, we should start consciously tracking what we do when we are at home and try to reduce the amount of time spent sitting. “Walk to the mailbox,” he said. Chop vegetables in the kitchen. Play ball with your, or a neighbor’s, dog. Chivvy your spouse into helping you fold sheets. “The data clearly shows,” Dr. Archer said, that even at home, we need to be in motion.

StreetsOfGold
28th February 2013, 06:36 PM
Genesis 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

FOR HIM, to be an help meet for HIM, NOT to be her "OWN MAN" (like a stinking, satanic) woman's libber!

1 Timothy 5:14 I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.

Proverbs 31:10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

Proverbs 31:12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
Proverbs 31:13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
Proverbs 31:14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.
Proverbs 31:15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.

Proverbs 31:19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.

Proverbs 31:27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

Proverbs 31:31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.

Shami-Amourae
28th February 2013, 06:50 PM
What does this have to do with me?

General of Darkness
28th February 2013, 06:55 PM
What does this have to do with me?

Because of this.


Why do you hate women and children?

Just messing with ya.

Shami-Amourae
28th February 2013, 06:55 PM
Yeah I was being sarcastic and teasing you. I had a feeling that was it.

Hitch
28th February 2013, 07:02 PM
Sex burns more calories than vacuuming or doing laundry. By my thoughts, there's any easy fix to this problem. Get your gal turned on!

Horn
28th February 2013, 07:06 PM
Sex burns more calories than vacuuming or doing laundry. By my thoughts, there's any easy fix to this problem.

We're talking about women here, not your buddy seamen.

Rubberchicken
28th February 2013, 07:14 PM
Don't try to understand women, women understand women and they hate each other.

Hitch
28th February 2013, 07:27 PM
We're talking about women here, not your buddy seamen.

You seem to be the one talking about men.

Horn
28th February 2013, 08:01 PM
You seem to be the one talking about men.

What would you need a vacuum cleaner for on a boat, anyway, Hitcher?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljnT49jU9vM

zap
28th February 2013, 08:32 PM
This is totally freaking stupid, I blame this on the " feminist movement" where women are expected by other women and out of necessity have to get a job outside the home that pays money because one income isn't enough?

Most women I know have a full time job outside the home, raise 2 or 3 kids take them to and from school, soccer, ballet, come home and cook dinner, clean the kitchen, get the kids bathed, get the kids to do their homework, get everyone's clothes ready for school and work the next day, while Dad sits on the couch or computer.

Then get up cook breakfast/ clean the kitchen and get everyone dressed and ready backpacks, homework ready, and jump and run, kids to school, dad went to work ok mom get your ass to work too, then do that everyday of your life til the kids are 18.

But damnit you better find time to get to the gym too !

A womans work is never done !

You ought to have a kick in ASS General for posting such a stupid article.

Oh and when the kids are little , mom don't ever expect to have a hot meal, ain't going to happen.

joboo
28th February 2013, 08:41 PM
They did the study exactly backwards.

Fat people are less likely to do anything requiring physical exertion due to the effort required (it's laziness). Call it genetics, body type, or whatever, but the body needs a certain amount of energy (calories) to operate, and anything above that gets stored for later.

It can't store every calorie consumed as fat. Eat over your BMR, and activity level, and your body will store, and vice versa. The "genetics" argument is double speak for I'm lazy, and I can't be bothered to figure out how my body works.

Hitch
28th February 2013, 08:45 PM
What would you need a vacuum cleaner for on a boat, anyway, Hitcher?

Why do you need to hide your sexual preference on an internet forum?

General of Darkness
28th February 2013, 08:47 PM
You ought to have a kick in ASS General for posting such a stupid article.


FYI, this was based on a STUDY. Someone got paid for this pile of crap. I know it's bullshit. Damn woman.

zap
28th February 2013, 08:52 PM
They did the study exactly backwards.

Fat people are less likely to do anything requiring physical exertion due to the effort required (it's laziness). Call it genetics, body type, or whatever, but the body needs a certain amount of energy (calories) to operate, and anything above that gets stored for later.

It can't store every calorie consumed as fat. Eat over your BMR, and activity level, and your body will store, and vice versa. The "genetics" argument is double speak for I'm lazy, and I can't be bothered to figure out how my body works.

You can shut up too JooBOO, I am far from lazy, I am overweight and I run consistently and work my ass off everyday, physical work, the only time I am on my ass is here online, I would love to see you do what I do in a day,

Guess I am just lazy.

Hitch
28th February 2013, 09:00 PM
You can shut up too JooBOO, I am far from lazy, I am overweight and I run consistently and work my ass off everyday, physical work, the only time I am on my ass is here online, I would love to see you do what I do in a day,

Guess I am just lazy.


You are a good woman, Zap. Folks on the internet can be hammerheads.

joboo
28th February 2013, 09:01 PM
You can shut up too JooBOO, I am far from lazy, I am overweight and I run consistently and work my ass off everyday, physical work, the only time I am on my ass is here online, I would love to see you do what I do in a day,

Guess I am just lazy.


That's why I mentioned genetics/BMR(base metabolic rate)/caloric intake as well.

The lazy remark is in regards to learning how the above combination works rather than physical exertion.

85-90% of success is all diet. What to eat, and when to eat it. It's very much a strategy. Physical exertion just supports it.

Hitch
28th February 2013, 09:33 PM
That's why I mentioned genetics/BMR(base metabolic rate)/caloric intake as well.

The lazy remark is in regards to learning how the above combination works rather than physical exertion.

85-90% of success is all diet. What to eat, and when to eat it. It's very much a strategy. Physical exertion just supports it.

Joboo, no offense, but you just can't admit that you are an asshole. What I mean is, what ever drama is going on, on this forum, you seem to be a part of it.

Now you are attacking zap. That's BS. You really need to look in the mirror. You should be ashamed of yourself.

zap
28th February 2013, 09:38 PM
No.... NO.... lets not have drama, he was just making a general statement, nothing was directed at me.

I am the one who took offence....

He was just making a general statement.

joboo
28th February 2013, 09:54 PM
Joboo, no offense, but you just can't admit that you are an asshole. What I mean is, what ever drama is going on, on this forum, you seem to be a part of it.

Now you are attacking zap. That's BS. You really need to look in the mirror. You should be ashamed of yourself.

It's a total misunderstanding...but anyway...

The drama is I question things, and unfortunately it made a few peoples heads explode to the point they are now paranoid/schizo in the brain cap over it. They raised endless suspicion, and it spread like a cult. A disease of the mind. Truth be told, I'm treated like an asshole a whole lot more than I actually am an asshole. Apparently I should turn the other cheek eternally, or it's all my fault. This is the audacity of what some would have you believe.

One thing you never do in this forum, ever, is ask questions, or step outside the cult of ultra conspiracy....or .....question the supreme grand omnipotence of certain users. Huuuuge fauxpas.

Try it for yourself, if you don't believe me. You'll soon find out how level headed some users are, and are not.

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Edit: I should add, the OP study is horrendously flawed. They started off with a conclusion, then reverse engineered the "evidence" to match it.

Horn
28th February 2013, 09:57 PM
Why do you need to hide your sexual preference on an internet forum?

Just be sure to use a condom while you're doing your "vacuum cleaning", latent appliance fetishist.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDs8bw34ivM

Hitch
28th February 2013, 10:23 PM
Just be sure to use a condom while you're doing your "vacuum cleaning", latent appliance fetishist.

Keep your perversions to yourself. Don't attach my name to this crap. That is all you. Knock yourself out.

Horn
28th February 2013, 10:26 PM
Don't attach my name to this crap.

Your a man of many love handles...

I can tell they're starting to get in a pinched.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtPvZ-bEm6U

Hitch
28th February 2013, 10:38 PM
Your a man of many love handles...

You are the man who has a phallic symbol, for a username on this site. Not me.

Horn any women lately?

Horn
28th February 2013, 10:46 PM
You are the man who has a phallic symbol, for a username on this site.

Ha, and you thought you were far away from Magnes, you type exactly like him!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXewIR7Y7cc

General of Darkness
28th February 2013, 10:49 PM
My thread was intended to get a laugh. Apparently it worked like a lead balloon.

Hitch
28th February 2013, 10:53 PM
My thread was intended to get a laugh. Apparently it worked like a lead balloon.

Apparently Horn and I have something to settle. I did not know this, until this thread!

Horn
28th February 2013, 10:58 PM
My thread was intended to get a laugh. Apparently it worked like a lead balloon.

I have assumed control of this thread, no fat chicks or trolls allowed!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_NNCNDYEpU

Hitch
28th February 2013, 10:59 PM
Ha, and you thought you were far away from Magnes, you type exactly like him!

Magnes isn't coming at me right now, but you are. :) I figure you may be in bed with him. That's OK. This is a politically correct forum after all. :)

Horn
28th February 2013, 11:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GHh1sOwFMs

Hitch
28th February 2013, 11:18 PM
Thanks Horn. PM sent. Cheers my friend.

joboo
28th February 2013, 11:42 PM
You can shut up too JooBOO, I am far from lazy, I am overweight and I run consistently and work my ass off everyday, physical work, the only time I am on my ass is here online, I would love to see you do what I do in a day,

Guess I am just lazy.


I'll elaborate on this. It it takes years to get to a certain weight, so it will take somewhere in the neighborhood of a few years to realistically get everything on track again. Don't ever get down about not seeing immediate results, or find yourself feeling guilty over it. Stress, and bad emotions are best avoided, as they will tell the body to keep storing whatever it eats as a protection mechanism. Kinda like stacking gold/silver to protect from economic turmoil.

My diet used to be terrible. Fast food every other day, all the high sugar, and processed foods, improper food ratios, the list was endless. Sugary foods was the biggest vice. It took a few years just to get reprogrammed mind & body as to what food is, how foods affect the body, what should be eaten , and when, in what ratios, and why. It's a fairly steep learning curve, and I can see why some people are employed at decent hourly rates as consultants/trainers to explain it all. The desire has to be there, and it's not easy, but it does get easier, and exciting.

It's a series of small gradual steps over a few years while keeping a persistent overall focus, and desire to learn, and try out new things to find out what works best for you. The main thing to remember is the body will always try to adapt at whatever you do, so the approach needs to change at every plateau. i.e. caloric intake up or down and/or carb levels, and changing up exercise choices and/or intensity/duration.

Why I say it usually takes a couple/few years, is the organs need to re-adapt, (digestive tract, liver, pancreas, heart, mind...everything really) a big thing is insulin reaction, or over reaction. The mainstream corporate advertised "food" choices coming out today are an assault on the body. Steer the ship on the course you want it to go, and don't stress it, but keep focused, and you will eventually arrive at the destination. Never stop learning. Investing in one's own health is the best investment there is.

Some inspiration, and additional info here (disregard all the supplement recommendations btw...just eat real food.):
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/transformation-inspiration-from-top-transformations-of-2012.html (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/trans.htm)

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbinfo.php/?page=FemaleTransformation

Cebu_4_2
1st March 2013, 12:56 AM
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Hillbilly
1st March 2013, 01:48 AM
Don't try to understand women, women understand women and they hate each other.


quoted for truth.