All out offensive against marijuana de-criminalization

[midnight rambler]

Why is the evil weed hated SOOOOO much?? All the while poppy production is protected by NATO forces in Afghanistan, this after the Taliban essentially eliminated ALL poppy production in Afghanistan by mid-2001.

First it was the former DEA heads coming out against the relaxation of marijuana laws -

http://www.businessinsider.com/dea-agents-tell-obama-to-sue-pot-states-2013-3

Now the UN chimes in -

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020487915_apcolegalizingmarijuanaun2ndldwritethru .html

Meanwhile there's no issue whatsoever with killing men, women, and children with flying killer robots.

[gunDriller]

Why is the evil weed hated SOOOOO much??

* it's not patent-able ... been around 2000+ years.

* it's cheap to manufacture, when it's legal.


it is more effective for most of the conditions for which it is prescribed, than is any creation of Big Pharma.

it is a humongous threat to their profits.

and Obama works for them. Obama-care & the Food Safety act being 2 examples of that.

[vacuum]

I'm just hoping the states will hurry up and start taxing it. Once they've got the massive revenue flowing in, the precious federal money will not have much power over the states anymore. Screw the UN and Feds, it's time the state gets the money rather than them.

[midnight rambler]

I'm just hoping the states will hurry up and start taxing it. Once they've got the massive revenue flowing in, the precious federal money will not have much power over the states anymore. Screw the UN and Feds, it's time the state gets the money rather than them.

It's not about any money nor tax revenues (and not just in this instance), it's strictly about control. imo

Partaking of the evil weed causes folks to reflect on their perceptions, and we just cannot have that.

"...(the goal of the KGB) is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite the abundance of information available to them no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in defense of themselves, their families, their communities, or their country." --KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov

[woodman]

Job security.

[mick silver]

drug money funds wars .

[iOWNme]

I'm just hoping the states will hurry up and start taxing it. Once they've got the massive revenue flowing in, the precious federal money will not have much power over the states anymore. Screw the UN and Feds, it's time the state gets the money rather than them.

Huh?

Where do the 'States' get the 'authority' to tax weed from? From the people? Where did the people get the authority to tax each other from?

'States' are nothing more than an abstract concept, a fiction, made up of people. Human beings. Mortal men. They have no more authority to do ANYTHING than you do. THEY ARE NOT GODS. They are made up of flesh and bone, just like you. And they havent the authority to do ANYTHING to you that you dont have to do to them.

Do you feel you have a moral Right to tax someone for ANYTHING? If so, please explain it to me using logic, evidence, reason and rationality.

As you can see, your comment about taxation REALLY grinds my gut. You may be the victim of MIND CONTROL if you truly believe this.

[SWRichmond]

War is the health of the state.

[vacuum]

Huh?

Where do the 'States' get the 'authority' to tax weed from? From the people? Where did the people get the authority to tax each other from?

'States' are nothing more than an abstract concept, a fiction, made up of people. Human beings. Mortal men. They have no more authority to do ANYTHING than you do. THEY ARE NOT GODS. They are made up of flesh and bone, just like you. And they havent the authority to do ANYTHING to you that you dont have to do to them.

Do you feel you have a moral Right to tax someone for ANYTHING?

As you can see, your comment about taxation REALLY grinds my gut. You may be the victim of MIND CONTROL if you truly believe this.

I don't think it should be taxed at all. But I'd rather see the states making more decisions than some federal or UN central authority.

We can much more easily change our state's constitution, eliminate taxes, or do whatever we want in our own state. In my mind, it's important for all things to move to the state level.

If we have a choice between the state taxing it or it being banned through UN treaty, which would you prefer? I understand that statement might be a false dichotomy. There might be a third option. But I don't think the masses (your neighbors, in laws, coworkers, etc) allow the third option to be feasible at this time.

[JDRock]

the feds hatred for it stems from their inability to control,and hense profit from it. any one can grow the humble herb in their home or yard . its uncontrollable from their standpoint. look at the other thread-feds are still raiding moonshiners! how archaic is that? its about control.

[Hatha Sunahara]

The weed helps you see the truth and laugh at them.


Hatha

[Son-of-Liberty]

I feel it isn't just about the weed but hemp. Hemp is generally illegal to grow simply because is is similar to marijuana which is illegal. If they legalized marijuana how would they justify the prohibition against growing hemp?

[Jewboo]

Why is the evil weed hated SOOOOO much??



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/07/article-2337730-1A34A29B000005DC-171_306x423.jpg

A crane operator who worked at the site of the Philadelphia building collapse that killed six and left more than a dozen others injured tested positive for marijuana and painkillers, it was revealed today.

Linky (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337730/Revealed-Codeine-marijuana-blood-crane-operator-worked-site-deadly-Philadelphia-building-collapse.html?ito=feeds-newsxml) for Midnight Rambler...lol.

http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-com-lounge/33997d1130211746-post-most-interesting-smiley-your-opinion-then-explain-its-divine-meanin-bongman.gif

[gunDriller]

I feel it isn't just about the weed but hemp. Hemp is generally illegal to grow simply because is is similar to marijuana which is illegal. If they legalized marijuana how would they justify the prohibition against growing hemp?

you can make auto bodies from hemp.

the petro-chemical industry doesn't like hemp

the Pharma Phucks don't like hemp

etc. etc. etc. etc.


hemp & cannabis threaten the existing businesses of these fine establishments /sarc

plus making hemp illegal supports another business: the Penal Colony business.

[Libertytree]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/07/article-2337730-1A34A29B000005DC-171_306x423.jpg

A crane operator who worked at the site of the Philadelphia building collapse that killed six and left more than a dozen others injured tested positive for marijuana and painkillers, it was revealed today.

Linky (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337730/Revealed-Codeine-marijuana-blood-crane-operator-worked-site-deadly-Philadelphia-building-collapse.html?ito=feeds-newsxml) for Midnight Rambler...lol.

http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-com-lounge/33997d1130211746-post-most-interesting-smiley-your-opinion-then-explain-its-divine-meanin-bongman.gif

Repeat.... painkillers!!

[Serpo]

The weed prevents programming working......they hate it.......

[Serpo]

Medical Cannabis Provides Dramatic Relief for Sufferers of Chronic Ailments, Israeli Study Finds

Jan. 24, 2013 — Though controversial, medical cannabis has been gaining ground as a valid therapy, offering relief to suffers of diseases such as cancer, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, ALS and more. The substance is known to soothe severe pain, increase the appetite, and ease insomnia where other common medications fail.
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In 2009, Zach Klein, a graduate of Tel Aviv University's Department of Film and Television Studies, directed the documentary Prescribed Grass. Through the process, he developed an interest in the scientific research behind medical marijuana, and now, as a specialist in policy-making surrounding medical cannabis and an MA student at TAU's Porter School of Environmental Studies, he is conducting his own research into the benefits of medical cannabis.

Using marijuana from a farm called Tikkun Olam -- a reference to the Jewish concept of healing the world -- Klein and his fellow researchers tested the impact of the treatment on 19 residents of the Hadarim nursing home in Israel. The results, Klein says, have been outstanding. Not only did participants experience dramatic physical results, including healthy weight gain and the reduction of pain and tremors, but Hadarim staff saw an immediate improvement in the participants' moods and communication skills. The use of chronic medications was also significantly reduced, he reports.

Klein's research team includes Dr. Dror Avisar of TAU's Hydrochemistry Laboratory at the Department of Geography and Human Environment; Prof. Naama Friedmann and Rakefet Keider of TAU's Jaime and Joan Constantiner School of Education; Dr. Yehuda Baruch of TAU's Sackler Faculty of Medicine and director of the Abarbanel Mental Health Center; and Dr. Moshe Geitzen and Inbal Sikorin of Hadarim.

Cutting down on chronic medications

Israel is a world leader in medical cannabis research, Klein says. The active ingredient in marijuana, THC, was first discovered there by Profs. Raphael Mechoulam and Yechiel Gaoni. Prof. Mechoulam is also credited for having defined the endocannabinoid system, which mimics the effects of cannabis and plays a role in appetite, pain sensation, mood and memory.

In the Hadarim nursing home, 19 patients between the ages of 69 and 101 were treated with medical cannabis in the form of powder, oil, vapor, or smoke three times daily over the course of a year for conditions such as pain, lack of appetite, and muscle spasms and tremors. Researchers and nursing home staff monitored participants for signs of improvement, as well as improvement in overall life quality, such as mood and ease in completing daily living activities.

During the study, 17 patients achieved a healthy weight, gaining or losing pounds as needed. Muscle spasms, stiffness, tremors and pain reduced significantly. Almost all patients reported an increase in sleeping hours and a decrease in nightmares and PTSD-related flashbacks.

There was a notable decline in the amount of prescribed medications taken by patients, such as antipsychotics, Parkinson's treatment, mood stabilizers, and pain relievers, Klein found, noting that these drugs have severe side effects. By the end of the study, 72 percent of participants were able to reduce their drug intake by an average of 1.7 medications a day.

Connecting cannabis and swallowing

This year, Klein is beginning a new study at Israel's Reuth Medical Center with Drs. Jean-Jacques Vatine and Aviah Gvion, in which he hopes to establish a connection between medical cannabis and improved swallowing. One of the biggest concerns with chronically ill patients is food intake, says Klein. Dysphagia, or difficulty in swallowing, can lead to a decline in nutrition and even death. He believes that cannabis, which has been found to stimulate regions of the brain associated with swallowing reflexes, will have a positive impact.

Overall, Klein believes that the healing powers of cannabis are close to miraculous, and has long supported an overhaul in governmental policy surrounding the drug. Since his film was released in 2009, the number of permits for medical cannabis in Israel has increased from 400 to 11,000. His research is about improving the quality of life, he concludes, especially for those who have no other hope.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/01/130124123453.htm

[Jewboo]

..change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite the abundance of information available to them no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in defense of themselves, their families, their communities, or their country...



http://www.incrediblethings.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/brilliant-ideas-i-had-while-stoned-notebooks.jpg

:D EXACTLY

[midnight rambler]

http://www.incrediblethings.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/brilliant-ideas-i-had-while-stoned-notebooks.jpg

:D EXACTLY

So are you suggesting Yuri Bezmenov was a stoner? (since that's a Yuri Bezmenov quote...)

Book, you should really try getting stoned sometime, I'm convinced you will quit with the statism thing you got going on.

[Libertytree]

You quoting MR's post seems to fit nicely into your modus operandi and agenda, it's the perfect descriptor of yourself and what you think you're accomplishing. FAIL.

[Hitch]

Book, you should really try getting stoned sometime, I'm convinced you will quit with the statism thing you got going on.

Imagine if Book took up surfing. Book needs to get a long board and relax, hang a few toes off the end of that board, and not focus on so much on things.

[milehi]

I just got back from several days of surfing this last swell. Thursday was pretty big. Well overhead. I had several nasty hold downs where everything was black, pinned to the bottom. Top to bottom barrels that reminded me of that day at Moss Landing and I definitely didn't bring enough board.

[Hitch]

I just got back from several days of surfing this last swell. Thursday was pretty big. Well overhead. I had several nasty hold downs where everything was black, pinned to the bottom. Top to bottom barrels that reminded me of that day at Moss Landing and I definitely didn't bring enough board.

There hasn't been any surf here in ML in the last few days.

I am going to paddle out tomorrow regardless. Heck, I wipe out anyways, lucky if if I can catch a wave with my clumbsiness.

[milehi]

There's youtube videos showing that place so big they're towing in.

From Surfline


There's a bit of good old-fashioned localism going on at Moss Landing, one of California's best beachbreaks. The place is watched over by a burly local crew, a combination of Point Break and Tequila Flats. These guys have been surfing the Landing for years, decades and they resent the ever-growing intrusion of outsiders at "their" spot. They are terrified that Moss Landing is going to become an annex of Santa Cruz, and they have been known to get feisty, particularly around longboarders and photographers.

You can't blame them for being protective of their spot. Moss Landing is a world-class beachbreak. During the winter, when a west swell is filling the bay and the offshores are howling out of the Salinas Valley, Moss Landing will take your breath away, in more ways than one.

Just offshore, hidden under all that water, the Monterey Canyon drops down to a maximum depth of over a mile. There are some strange critters floating around way down there, and the Canyon has an effect on what happens along the beach. The swell that hits Moss Landing has come out of very, very deep water and hasn't been slowed down by the continental shelf. The result is a very powerful beachbreak, and a place that is only slightly less frustrating and challenging than Ocean Beach. It can be almost impossible to get out at Moss Landing, and there is always the possibility of getting hammered by a triple-overhead wave.

Shark Danger:
Mmh-hmm. More than you really want to know. There have been several attacks along this stretch of beach, the most recent in 2008. (1=none; 10=bring an iron cage)

[Hitch]

I've seen it big to where folks are being towed in. Quite a sight.

I've also destroyed a long board here. There's some a good beach break here, and generally, it's not crowded. I haven't experience the "local" factor however, folks here seem really cool actually. Even for a beginner like me.

Bring your board milehi! We're all welcome and cheers. ML is in the triangle so sharks are there but hell you only live once anyways.

[Cebu_4_2]

Weed cures.

They can't have that.

Subject done.