Wealth Inequality in America

[Jewboo]

http://youtu.be/QPKKQnijnsM

Wealth Inequality in America


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[JDRock]

and its only gonna get worse. In a financial "crisis" money and wealth doesnt disappear...it just changes HANDS. Wealth is transferred from the uninformed to the well informed.

[EE_]

and its only gonna get worse. In a financial "crisis" money and wealth doesnt disappear...it just changes HANDS. Wealth is transferred from the uninformed to the well informed.

Some would say it's only gonna get better...

[Ponce]

I disagree with the word......."inequality".....we are all given the same tool with wich to do something out of life..."your brain"..........I don't blame others for what I can or cannot do because there is alway a way to do something if you really want it to happen........or at least you can try......I am still trying to fly and someday I will do it...stupid?, only if I stop trying.....everything is impossible till it happens.

I did just great when I had $5.00 in my pocket as when I had or $1.000.......quality of life is quality of mind because the real world is not what is, but what you make it be.

V

[Santa]

I disagree with the word......."inequality".....we are all given the same tool with wich to do something out of life..."your brain"..........I don't blame others for what I can or cannot do because there is alway a way to do something if you really want it to happen........or at least you can try......I am still trying to fly and someday I will do it...stupid?, only if I stop trying.....everything is impossible till it happens.

I did just great when I had $5.00 in my pocket as when I had or $1.000.......quality of life is quality of mind because the real world is not what is, but what you make it be.

V

So, why have you been harping on and on about the crook Zionists all these years?

The Filthy Rich, that 1% that are being represented on that graph got that way at the expense of the poor and middle class. They took it. Stolen. They transferred your wealth into their accounts by hook and by crook. They're stealing your futures. They bought this government and they're making the Laws that will continue to enslave your children.

These fucking Zio Jew Bankster Elite Pharisee's who are holding that gigantic money bag are the god damn enemy.

[Sparky]

The thing is, it's not so much the wealth inequality that is a problem, so much as the corrupt way in which it is achieved. I wouldn't mind the Top 1% owning 99% of assets if it were acquired on a level playing field. But it's not. The Top 1% own the system and make the rules. That's the real problem.

[Twisted Titan]

The thing is, it's not so much the wealth inequality that is a problem, so much as the corrupt way in which it is achieved. I wouldn't mind the Top 1% owning 99% of assets if it were acquired on a level playing field. But it's not. The Top 1% own the system and make the rules. That's the real problem.

Which is why we are due for a system reset. where EVERYTHING is up for grabs because these friggen pricks cant learn to be satisfied that thewy own the whole enchaladia. They actually get bent out of shape about the few crumbs that are left on the table.


This will come down to bullets and gunsmoke because the other side is obsessed with obtaining something that is impossible

[iOWNme]

So, why have you been harping on and on about the crook Zionists all these years?

The Filthy Rich, that 1% that are being represented on that graph got that way at the expense of the poor and middle class. They took it. Stolen. They transferred your wealth into their accounts by hook and by crook. They're stealing your futures. They bought this government and they're making the Laws that will continue to enslave your children.

These fucking Zio Jew Bankster Elite Pharisee's who are holding that gigantic money bag are the god damn enemy.

I disagree. The Zio Jew Banksters are not the problem. The problem is the millions of people who listen to them, and follow their commands. Was Hitler, Stalin, Lenin or Mao the problem or was it the hundreds of millions of good hearted people who belived in 'Authority' and followed their commands regardless of morals that caused all of the massive starvation and murder?

Have you ever been robbed in person at gunpoint by one of the evil Jew Zionist? I thought not. But you have been robbed by your fellow man who thinks that follwing orders is noble, is under MIND CONTROL and thinks that scribbles on paper can change a crime into a virtue.


The thing is, it's not so much the wealth inequality that is a problem, so much as the corrupt way in which it is achieved. I wouldn't mind the Top 1% owning 99% of assets if it were acquired on a level playing field. But it's not. The Top 1% own the system and make the rules. That's the real problem.


If there were a level playing field (Free Market) there wouldnt be a 1%. The 1% got their by one way and one way only: Government MONOPOLY. There is no massive wealth accumulation by a select few when there is real competition.

[Santa]

I disagree. The Zio Jew Banksters are not the problem. The problem is the millions of people who listen to them, and follow their commands. Was Hitler, Stalin, Lenin or Mao the problem or was it the hundreds of millions of good hearted people who belived in 'Authority' and followed their commands regardless of morals that caused all of the massive starvation and murder?

Have you ever been robbed in person at gunpoint by one of the evil Jew Zionist? I thought not. But you have been robbed by your fellow man who thinks that follwing orders is noble, is under MIND CONTROL and thinks that scribbles on paper can change a crime into a virtue.




If there were a level playing field (Free Market) there wouldnt be a 1%. The 1% got their by one way and one way only: Government MONOPOLY. There is no massive wealth accumulation by a select few when there is real competition.



Jesus didn't talk down to the masses. He didn't make the poor look like idiots and fools. No, instead, He condemned the Pharisees(lawyers) and the money changers(bankers), calling them the Synagog of Satan, (the God damned Enemy.)

[sirgonzo420]

Jesus didn't talk down to the masses. He didn't make the poor look like idiots and fools. No, instead, He condemned the Pharisees(lawyers) and the money changers(bankers), calling them the Synagog of Satan, (the God damned Enemy.)

Jesus was a mystic of the highest order, and he taught in parables (in part because Truth is ineffable and unspeakable [the Tao that can be spoken is not the Eternal Tao...] Truth must be experienced).


Matthew 13:10-13

And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not,neither do they understand.



Even the disciples required further elucidation.


Mark 4:34

But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.



Christ cautions against giving high-level spiritual truths to those who have not yet developed the capacity to receive it:


Matthew 7:6

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.



Jesus was certainly not unfriendly to the poor; Jesus taught that the poor were closer to the Kingdom than the rich (because the less possessions one has, the less attachment one has to the physical, material world, and the more open one is to receiving spiritual truth):


Matthew 5:3

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

[Ponce]

Well Santa, if money is what makes you happy then go for it but only as long as you don't use it to hurt others, as they are doing..........if you need more money then go for it but always remember this........how much food can you fit on your plate?.

The main reason that man likes money and power is only to attract the oposite sex........instead of showing off their feathers , which they don't have, they show their money..........

V

[Shami-Amourae]

And the 'tards will blame Capitalism, and demand more of the same...

[Santa]

Jesus was certainly not unfriendly to the poor; Jesus taught that the poor were closer to the Kingdom than the rich (because the less possessions one has, the less attachment one has to the physical, material world, and the more open one is to receiving spiritual truth):


Yeah, can't argue that.
I've been kinda ornery lately, watching folks I know get kicked out of there houses and the like.
Folks aren't going to Walmart anymore, their pushing shopping carts down the isles at Goodwill.
It won't be long before Goodwill is too expensive for poor folks to shop at either.

Just so you all know, If I flip out and go on some insane ideologically based rampage, I won't be going after any poor people. :)

[Santa]

And the 'tards will blame Capitalism, and demand more of the same...


Capitalism, Consumerism, Materialism, Hedonism, Objectivism, Satanism.... those Isms are all basically the same. Each exists to validate the physical and undermine the spiritual.

[woodman]

I disagree. The Zio Jew Banksters are not the problem. The problem is the millions of people who listen to them, and follow their commands. Was Hitler, Stalin, Lenin or Mao the problem or was it the hundreds of millions of good hearted people who belived in 'Authority' and followed their commands regardless of morals that caused all of the massive starvation and murder?

Have you ever been robbed in person at gunpoint by one of the evil Jew Zionist? I thought not. But you have been robbed by your fellow man who thinks that follwing orders is noble, is under MIND CONTROL and thinks that scribbles on paper can change a crime into a virtue.




If there were a level playing field (Free Market) there wouldnt be a 1%. The 1% got their by one way and one way only: Government MONOPOLY. There is no massive wealth accumulation by a select few when there is real competition.




The elite are definitely the problem. Your post is contradictory. On one hand you say you disagree and then you go on to say that most people are under mind control. Obviously they are being controlled by the elite against their will, are they not? Flouridation, public schools, entertainment, etc. I could go on and on about the myriad ways in which we are socially programmed. Add to this the Zionist control of all finances. The true weapon of mass destruction. I think you agree perfectly with Santa but just didn't think it throug.

[woodman]

Capitalism is a perfect system. What we see and have been living under for many decades is not capitalism but cronyism, where criminal cartels own the government and compete to rape the average person under the umbrella of the law.

[mamboni]

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[Jewboo]

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GSUS's only One Percenter is too busy counting up today's take from Medicare to comment at the moment...lol.

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[EE_]

Tell me if you can watch this vid of Marc Faber on CNBC today. Doesn't seem to play on mine today?
http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000144537#eyJ2aWQiOiIzMDAwMTUyOTYwIiwiZW5j VmlkIjoiMmRXZ0kxWC9ERVZMRGcxWnQzQnkyZz09IiwidlRhYi I6InRyYW5zY3JpcHQiLCJ2UGFnZSI6IiIsImdOYXYiOlsiXHUw MGEwTGF0ZXN0IFZpZGVvIl0sImdTZWN0IjoiQUxMIiwiZ1BhZ2 UiOiIxIiwic3ltIjoiIiwic2VhcmNoIjoiIn0=
I liked when he set the CNBC skank Maria Fartaroma straight on how people get rich.

[iOWNme]

The elite are definitely the problem. Your post is contradictory. On one hand you say you disagree and then you go on to say that most people are under mind control. Obviously they are being controlled by the elite against their will, are they not? Flouridation, public schools, entertainment, etc. I could go on and on about the myriad ways in which we are socially programmed. Add to this the Zionist control of all finances. The true weapon of mass destruction. I think you agree perfectly with Santa but just didn't think it throug.

Im not sure i see the contradiction?

No they are not being controlled by the Elite. They are being controlled by their fellow man! Who pours the fluoride into the water? Fellow slaves. Who teaches them Marxism in the schools? Fellow slaves. Who are the entertainers that propagandize the masses? Fellow slaves.

Nobody answered any of the questions i posed. Have you ever personally been robbed or assaulted by any of these 'Elite'? Nope. You have only been accosted by your neighbor: a fellow slave. One in a costume possibly.

Blaming all of the problems on some group called 'The Elite' is a cop out and a scape goat, and also makes sure that people never awake from the same cycle over and over. The problem isnt a group of people who are 0.1% of the worlds population. The problem is between the ears of 7 billion people who imagine that a group they out number 100 million to 1 has any power or control over them whatsoever. That is why i called it Mind Control = Because the people cannot even figure out that the enforcers of this so called 'Tyranny' are their fellow slaves! The Volcano God never even actually shows up when you disobey him, just another fellow mortal man who has been convinced he is a GOD. Which means he can change a crime into a virtue because some words have been scribbled on parchment somewhere.

The Stanford Prison Experiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment) and the Milgram Experiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment) both proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt: The belief in the superstitious myth called 'Authority' is the most insane, anti human, self contradictory, immoral and irrational cult in the history of man. (See my sig)

If you could remove all of the Talmud worshiping Zionists tomorrow it wouldnt change anything because the people literally want to be controlled. They would just create another monster in its place to control and run their neighbors lives, or to get free goodies at the expense of their fellow man. It is very sad, but it is the truth. Most people cannot face this, because it forces you to change yourself which is something almost no one can honestly do.

I just view it a different way i guess.....

[mamboni]

https://lh3.ggpht.com/_mJmwQtPmusk/TDrt5vd8OvI/AAAAAAAAE5g/TOk9LfHHPBs/s400/Rich-Doctor.jpg

GSUS's only One Percenter is too busy counting up today's take from Medicare to comment at the moment...lol.

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C'mom BOOK, must you be so obviously BOOK?;D

[Santa]

Good stuff, ya'll... Lol

"Men may live together in society with some tolerable degree of security, though there is no civil magistrate to protect them from the injustice of those passions. But avarice and ambition in the rich, in the poor the hatred of labour and the love of present ease and enjoyment, are the passions which prompt to invade property, passions much more steady in their operation, and much more universal in their influence. Wherever there is great property there is great inequality. For one very rich man there must be at least five hundred poor, and the affluence of the few supposes the indigence of the many. The affluence of the rich excites the indignation of the poor, who are often both driven by want, and prompted by envy, to invade his possessions. It is only under the shelter of the civil magistrate that the owner of that valuable property, which is acquired by the labour of many years, or perhaps of many successive generations, can sleep a single night in security. He is at all times surrounded by unknown enemies, whom, though he never provoked, he can never appease, and from whose injustice he can be protected only by the powerful arm of the civil magistrate continually held up to chastise it. The acquisition of valuable and extensive property, therefore, necessarily requires the establishment of civil government. Where there is no property, or at least none that exceeds the value of two or three days' labour, civil government is not so necessary. Civil government supposes a certain subordination. But as the necessity of civil government gradually grows up with the acquisition of valuable property, so the principal causes which naturally introduce subordination gradually grow up with the growth of that valuable property. (...) Men of inferior wealth combine to defend those of superior wealth in the possession of their property, in order that men of superior wealth may combine to defend them in the possession of theirs. All the inferior shepherds and herdsmen feel that the security of their own herds and flocks depends upon the security of those of the great shepherd or herdsman; that the maintenance of their lesser authority depends upon that of his greater authority, and that upon their subordination to him depends his power of keeping their inferiors in subordination to them. They constitute a sort of little nobility, who feel themselves interested to defend the property and to support the authority of their own little sovereign in order that he may be able to defend their property and to support their authority. Civil government, so far as it is instituted for the security of property, is in reality instituted for the defence of the rich against the poor, or of those who have some property against those who have none at all." (Source: The Wealth of Nations, Book 5, Chapter 1, Part 2)

[Santa]

For one very rich man there must be at least five hundred poor, and the affluence of the few supposes the indigence of the many.

Today, however, going by the magnitude of the property inequality occurring, the five hundred poor that Adam Smith wrote of would probably be more five million or more poor.

[old steel]

I think you are mistaken Sparky.

The Top 0.001% own the system. They make rules that simultaneously keep the Top 1% out of the Top 0.001%, while keeping the Top 1% content in their role as the tools the Top 0.001% uses to control the 99%.

[Hatha Sunahara]

The cause of wealth inequality isn't capitalism. It isn't education inequality. It isn't because some people work harder than others. It's usury and compound interest.

When you borrow money you transfer wealth to the lender. The more you borrow and the longer you stay in debt, the more of the wealth you create passes to the lender. If you avoid going into debt by saving your money, you won't get rich. If you want to get rich, save your money and lend it at compound interest. If you want to become outrageously wealthy, figure out a way to create money from nothing and lend it at compound interest--a way that nobody has a monopoly over.

It's our money system that creates the wealth inequality. It also creates a power inequality that arises from this wealth inequality.

If you confiscate all the wealth, and redistribute it equally among all the people, AND you make it illegal to charge interest on loans, the wealth inequality will not come back for a very long time.


Hatha

[Jewboo]

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We already read your ONE PERCENTER perspective on our wealth inequality Doctor Mamboni:




So no, I don't think $250K is rich. I earn more than that, and I will tell you that even living modestly and well under my expenses that I can never retire. I am 56 years and will probably die on the job. In my estimation, a family of four needs a minimum of $20 million in cash to retire.

Link (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60383-The-insanity-of-government-regulations&p=533378&viewfull=1#post533378)



;D

[mamboni]

We already read your ONE PERCENTER perspective on our wealth inequality Doctor Mamboni:



;D

Well, I stand by what I said then. Everyone has his own idea of what is sufficient wealth to provide security and a decent lifestyle.

By the way, when you partake of free government social services and subsidies, do you volunteer to them that you own some physical gold bullion? Be honest.

[Jewboo]

Be honest.



http://hplusmagazine.com/sites/default/files/images/articles/vaccine-injection.jpg

Did you honestly submit to your employer-mandated vaccination yet?

;D

[Horn]

The video neglects to mention that the 1% also governs most economic transfers across the entire globe.

Without it, the Earth would not rotate, even from a Geocentric's standpoint.

You could basically separate it from the rest of the chart, as it does not apply.

[Sparky]

I think you are mistaken Sparky.

The Top 0.001% own the system. They make rules that simultaneously keep the Top 1% out of the Top 0.001%, while keeping the Top 1% content in their role as the tools the Top 0.001% uses to control the 99%.

You are correct. I was stating the simplified version. :)

[Horn]

It's all notional & relative,

and precisely why Einstein couldn't have been more mistaken, the world operates in 2 dimensions.

One dimension has 3, the other has a great gaping hole that makes a giant sucking noise from the top
completely unrelated and better off left for dead.

mamboni would be better off to keep the people focused on the other dimension... :)

[stephensil]

A video entitled Wealth Inequality in America posted on youtube by a user named politizane claims it all. It went popular of over the very first weekend of March. The video uses easy-to-understand graphics to illustrate just how enormous the space is between the country's highest and lowest earners. It is far broader than most think. Article source: Viral video depicts Wealth Inequality in America (http://personalmoneynetwork.com/moneyblog/2013/03/06/wealth-inequality/)

[mamboni]

http://hplusmagazine.com/sites/default/files/images/articles/vaccine-injection.jpg

Did you honestly submit to your employer-mandated vaccination yet?

;D

I see you have decided to remain a bitter prick of a malcontent.

[woodman]

Nobody answered any of the questions i posed. Have you ever personally been robbed or assaulted by any of these 'Elite'? Nope. You have only been accosted by your neighbor: a fellow slave. One in a costume possibly.

Blaming all of the problems on some group called 'The Elite' is a cop out and a scape goat, and also makes sure that people never awake from the same cycle over and over. The problem isnt a group of people who are 0.1% of the worlds population. The problem is between the ears of 7 billion people who imagine that a group they out number 100 million to 1 has any power or control over them whatsoever. That is why i called it Mind Control = Because the people cannot even figure out that the enforcers of this so called 'Tyranny' are their fellow slaves! The Volcano God never even actually shows up when you disobey him, just another fellow mortal man who has been convinced he is a GOD. Which means he can change a crime into a virtue because some words have been scribbled on parchment somewhere.

The Stanford Prison Experiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment) and the Milgram Experiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment) both proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt: The belief in the superstitious myth called 'Authority' is the most insane, anti human, self contradictory, immoral and irrational cult in the history of man. (See my sig)

If you could remove all of the Talmud worshiping Zionists tomorrow it wouldnt change anything because the people literally want to be controlled. They would just create another monster in its place to control and run their neighbors lives, or to get free goodies at the expense of their fellow man. It is very sad, but it is the truth. Most people cannot face this, because it forces you to change yourself which is something almost no one can honestly do.

I just view it a different way i guess.....

I agree 100% with what you are getting at here. Just as in the days of slavery, a runaway slave had more to fear from his fellow slaves who were jealous of his freedom and would be the first to report him. People suck really bad in many ways. Not all but probably the vast majority of people.

[iOWNme]

It is only under the shelter of the civil magistrate that the owner of that valuable property, which is acquired by the labour of many years, or perhaps of many successive generations, can sleep a single night in security. He is at all times surrounded by unknown enemies, whom, though he never provoked, he can never appease, and from whose injustice he can be protected only by the powerful arm of the civil magistrate continually held up to chastise it. The acquisition of valuable and extensive property, therefore, necessarily requires the establishment of civil government.

Ahh yes, Adam Smith.....The STATIST!

Government protects property? Talk about contradictory statements.

Who has stolen, pillaged, robbed, murdered, assaulted, kidnapped, plundered, caged and terrorized more innocent people throughout out history: Individual criminals or 'Governments'?


The idea that you can create an all powerful group who has the power and authority to steal and murder, in order to be protected from thieves and killers is IDIOTIC.

[Jewboo]

So no, I don't think $250K is rich. I earn more than that, and I will tell you that even living modestly and well under my expenses that I can never retire. I am 56 years and will probably die on the job. In my estimation, a family of four needs a minimum of $20 million in cash to retire.



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[Horn]

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If you just added a k to your handle, they could call you jewbook.

[Santa]

Ahh yes, Adam Smith.....The STATIST!

Government protects property? Talk about contradictory statements.

Who has stolen, pillaged, robbed, murdered, assaulted, kidnapped, plundered, caged and terrorized more innocent people throughout out history: Individual criminals or 'Governments'?


The idea that you can create an all powerful group who has the power and authority to steal and murder, in order to be protected from thieves and killers is IDIOTIC.

To answer your first question. Government doesn't exist without individuals. Individual criminals use government to steal, pillage, rob, murder, assault, kidnap, plunder, cage, and terrorize.

You completely missed Adam Smith's point. He's explaining WHY civil government exists. And he's correct. It exists to protect private property. He makes an observation, not a demand.

If you want private property, then some kind of civil government is inevitable. The more private property you want, the more government you get. It's a forgone conclusion.


Your argument appears backwards to me. It's as if, instead of accusing the big fat gorilla(Jew Bankers) in the room for using up all the oxygen, you're accusing the air(humanity) for not being sufficiently oxygenated to support the gorilla.

My argument is, REMOVE THE BIG FAT FUCKING GORILLA FROM THE ROOM, and then maybe humanity can replenish its oxygen content. :)

[Santa]

The cause of wealth inequality isn't capitalism. It's usury and compound interest.
Hatha

Capitalism is Usury.


CAPITALISM IS USURY

Posted By: tenavision
Date: Friday, 13-Sep-2002 01:28:08

This exactly describes the world right now. Read it and weep.

Subject: Curse of Ignorance

There is a widespread misconception with regards to the true nature of capitalism, which has largely been bought about by an uncritical acceptance of Marxist-Socialist terminology, itself not only untrue, but intended to be misleading. The essential characterstic of capitalism is not that it permits private ownership of means of production, distribution and exchange, be it land, building, machinery, etc. The personal ownership of all these factors have been since the beginning of mankind a part of natural law. Even the earliest barbarians who owned a stone axe and a bow, and arrows, or the primitive plough and other tools, were not capitalists. Neither were men of feudal times capitalists even if they were great lords. And not even a miser who had accumulated a hoard of gold a capitalist. They all were, and in similar circumtances still are, owners of property.

The distingushing characterstic of capitalism is that it is concerned with means of exchange, that it is a system in which usury-the lending of money at interest, plays a leading role; it is the essence of capitalism, in addition to the private issue of money. It is a system which has been created by moneylenders (Goldsmiths, now turned Bankers) - by the parasites. It is not a system of constructive owners, the true creators of wealth by work and invention.

It is in the nature of usury that it needs an ever expanding market. The parasite cannot live on one and the same victim. He must continually bring new ones into his net.

Marx's analysis in the realms of costs and prices are faulty, because what an entrepreneur earns is not some mysterious and elusive increase, but simply his variable wage, as distinct from the fixed one of his employees. Marx and his followers almost completely ignore the critical factors such as monetary issue, usury, finiancial control through shareholder companies, etc.

Most people, even those with much experience of business, assume that when they approach a bank for a loan or overdraft, they are asked for complete security because the bank risks either a part of its own accumulated capital or money lent to it by investors. Further, it is assumed that when the loan has been granted, money is transferred from some existing account to that of the borrower, who is called upon to pay interest quite properly for the sacrifice made by the lender. This however is not the case at all. The banks create money out of nothing when granting accomodation. And these loans are called deposits in the balance sheet of the bank, though they are monetary creations. (for those of you would wish to understand the money creation mechanism further, would find information on the following website useful:
http://whistleblowers.freehosting.net/federal_reserve.htm)

By having created new money out of nothing, and put into circulation burdened with interest charge, which is real charge on the productive life of the community, the banker has increased the total amount of money in circulation. Conversely, if acustomer repays the debt, the amount of money in the land will be reduced by the given sum. The bank takes no risk of not being repaid, as it always has full security. This basic fact of capitalism means that those who control the central banks of the world, and they have been interlinked for a long time, even in conditions of war, control all wealth and therefore most of the activities of the world. The means and possibilities of the financiers are only limited by productivity and gullibility of humanity.

Clearly, this alone would provide the financiers with immense profits. They not only enjoy the profits of the issue, since all the money which they in fact create out of nothing, just like any forger of banknotes, only with much greater ease and protection by legislation. (by Law ie hidden force of government-police, army, etc. Those who want to explore this subject further may the book titled Slavery of Our Times by Leo Tolstoy interesting. Also, visit the website;
http://whistleblowers.freehosting.net/books.htm)

But this is only a part of the picture. Since banks control the volume of money in circulation, as it is they who determine how much is to be lent or withdrawn, it follows that the financiers can predetermine prices, production, employment levels, etc. This too is an immense source of profit. Obviously, the ability to predetermine the value of money (it should be noted here that if more money is pumped into circulation via loans, credits, etc while the amount of goods remains the same, then the prices will rise, and vice-versa) implies the ability to decide in advance changes in the prices of goods, services, stocks, etc. Underthese circumstances the controllers of money can indulge in massive speculations without any risk of loss. There is yet more to follow.

For generations the State has not only yielded its power of coinage to usurers, but has borrowed heavily from them (National debt-there is no nation on Earth without one which has embraced Capitalism), paying interest on the money the bankers make by means of book entries. It is unbelievable, but true. In practical terms what that means is that the Governments are all too strongly influenced by the powerful financiers. They, as well as political parties, media, large corporations, etc, are held in pawn by the bankers. In this context it should be mentioned that the financiers are able to do much towards keeping those of whom they disapprove short of funds, while lavishly helping those who serve their interests.

As noted earlier, the usurers must always have an expanding internal and external market at their disposal. You cannot go on forever collecting interest on the same debt from the same people unless they are persuaded that they will again need the lender. But even more dangerous for the lenders is the fact that their system inevitably leads to an ever growing debt structure (be it national, corporate or personal debt), and sooner or later the victim of the parasite can no longer feed him ie there must come a time when every state, individual and corporation is paying a greater part of their income in tribute to the moneylenders ... then the system will become an unbearable and unworkable scandal.

However, people are now accustomed to the acceptance (mostly via ignorance and regular and frequant re-enforcement thru media) of the usury parasites, they will revolt if and when the monster gets too large and too greedy. This has been understood by its leaders. Thus Socialism/Communism is promoted as an alternative to capitalism. The idea is to assure that no real opposition to usury capitalism will appear, as all the dissatisfaction will be safely canalized into controlled channels, and either used or neutralized as the circumstances dictate. This technique of controlled opposition, or bogus competitors, is not new, but it is generally not realized that it is one of the chief characterstics of all forms of socialism. Further, it is also true that there are very many people, in many countries, who well understand that socialism is camouflaged communism, but here also too many who having seen this point come to the conclusion that the proper answer is defense of capitalism.

The ultimate real aims of Capitalism and Socialism are identical: centralized rule of a political group, which owns all means of production, to say nothing of controlling all money. If you investigate into this matter you will find that (from behind the scenes) socialist movements are always products of thought, initiative and financial support of the bankers. It is their tool. Those interested in following up this matter might find the information in the following books rather interesting;

Naked Capitalist by W Cleon Skousen

Tragedy & Hope by Carroll Quigley

Pawns in the Game by William Guy Carr

[woodman]

Capitalism is Usury.

I guess when I say capitalism, what I am referring to is a free market system, totally anarchic. Such a thing is impossible in this world of organized crime masquerading as government. If capitalism is usury then it is an evil. I guess it is a matter of definition. Usury is definitely an evil.

[mamboni]

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[Hatha Sunahara]

Have you ever noticed that it is politically incorrect to talk about usury? Guy Carr explained why. It's always shielded by fake debates about irrelevancies. You will know when you get to the essence of it because someone will either try to discredit you or kill you. All the debate between capitalism and socialism/communism exists to divert people away from the real issue which is usury and compound interest. If you accept that, and do some research about usury, you will find that there is very little information available regarding usury. Even the definition of it is so vaporous that you are induced to drop your interest and 'fogeddaboudit'.

That's the kind of issue that draws my attention and motivates me to pay attention to it because it is something that has to be important. Otherwise why would it be so well covered up?

Within the last year, I discovered, quite by accident, a book on this issue that deserves a lot more attention that it has received. It's called The Sumerian Swindle by 'God' which is a pen name for a guy named Banjo Billy. The author is covering himself with two layers of cover because he ventures into a dangerous area. His book is about the origins of usury and the reason why the world is divided into haves and have-nots. I think it is a scholarly work. I've gotten a multidimensional view of the ills of the world from it. I have posted links to this book here previously. You won't find anything like it anywhere. So, here's the link:


http://www.bamboo-delight.com/download/Sumerian_Swindle_v1.pdf


Hatha

[EE_]

Have you ever noticed that it is politically incorrect to talk about usury? Guy Carr explained why. It's always shielded by fake debates about irrelevancies. You will know when you get to the essence of it because someone will either try to discredit you or kill you. All the debate between capitalism and socialism/communism exists to divert people away from the real issue which is usury and compound interest. If you accept that, and do some research about usury, you will find that there is very little information available regarding usury. Even the definition of it is so vaporous that you are induced to drop your interest and 'fogeddaboudit'.

That's the kind of issue that draws my attention and motivates me to pay attention to it because it is something that has to be important. Otherwise why would it be so well covered up?

Within the last year, I discovered, quite by accident, a book on this issue that deserves a lot more attention that it has received. It's called The Sumerian Swindle by 'God' which is a pen name for a guy named Banjo Billy. The author is covering himself with two layers of cover because he ventures into a dangerous area. His book is about the origins of usury and the reason why the world is divided into haves and have-nots. I think it is a scholarly work. I've gotten a multidimensional view of the ills of the world from it. I have posted links to this book here previously. You won't find anything like it anywhere. So, here's the link:


http://www.bamboo-delight.com/download/Sumerian_Swindle_v1.pdf


Hatha


I gave the book a quick perusal and it looks interesting. I'll try to read it later.

[iOWNme]

Capitalism is Usury.

YES Cavemen were capitalist. Did they create tools that allowed them to produce more than they could have without the tools? Did they have full control over their tools?

Why would usury be bad if there were REAL competition? Because with a real free market competition, usury rates would drop to 0. They have to.

It is only with Government MONOPOLY, that things like Usuray can be used to enslave. Owning the means of production is not Capitalism. It is the Individuals Right to CONTROL the means of production that is the core of Capitalism.

I bet your car, your house and many other of your personal valuables are in your name: You OWN them. But you DO NOT control them: The Communsit STATE does.

You see it isnt important who owns ITS WHO CONTROLS.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STnniV4Lcx4


"There is no great attack against Capitalism; There is a great attack on the individual's Right to own and control Capital". This is the key.

Dismiss this distinction at your own peril.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Cavemen didn't have money. They bartered for what they needed. They lived in tribal groupings--not in cities in close proximity to lots of strangers. Usury is something you can only do with money. To the extent that government protects a monopoly over the issuance of money, you are right Sui Juris, but the world wasn't advanced enough at the time of the cavemen to make your argument.

Aristotle, who lived in a civilized world said this about usury:


Aristotle, one of the fathers of Western thought, wrote in his 350 B.C. work, Politics (http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/politics.html), in Book One, Part X, that usury is the lending of money at interest:

“The most hated sort, and with the greatest reason, is usury, which makes a gain out of money itself, and not from the natural object of it. For money was intended to be used in exchange, but not to increase at interest. And this term interest, which means the birth of money from money, is applied to the breeding of money because the offspring resembles the parent. Wherefore of an modes of getting wealth this is the most unnatural.“
Today, usury has been taken to mean the lending of money at some arbitrary “exorbitant (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/usury)” rate of interest. Traditionally, however, it has been viewed as the lending of money at any interest rate. http://fauxcapitalist.com/2010/07/13/aristotle-on-usury/



Now as to whether cavemen were capitalists? I'm not sure if you can have capitalism in a barter economy or in a tribal society. I haven't studied that. It might be possible.


Hatha

[Horn]

Now as to whether cavemen were capitalists? I'm not sure if you can have capitalism in a barter economy or in a tribal society. I haven't studied that. It might be possible.

Its quite possible we gave the bankers the position,

because they were the ones with the biggest stick shaking silver chips out of our pockets.

If we take it away they will be back at their old charms.