View Full Version : Habemus papam. (white smoke in Catholic country)
sirgonzo420
13th March 2013, 12:18 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/2718-202_162-2116/live-vatican-smoke-cam/
Enter Petrus Romanus (http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Prophecy+of+the+Popes)!
chad
13th March 2013, 12:19 PM
hope is a conservative one.
mick silver
13th March 2013, 12:21 PM
dam that was fast .
JohnQPublic
13th March 2013, 12:26 PM
Dennis Rodman arrives at Vatican, wants to meet with new pope (updated) (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2013/03/13/dennis-rodman-wants-to-meet-with-new-pope/)
“I want to be anywhere in the world that I’m needed,” Rodman, whose press agent said he planned to appear today in St. Peter’s Square in something resembling a “Popemobile,” told TMZ. “I want to spread a message of peace and love throughout the world.”
"...Rodman, via the Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/13/dennis-rodman-vatican-papal-conclave), said that Pope John Paul II was his favorite pontiff. “He was cool as hell. He pretty much was like a pimp. Sitting up there … speaking like 20,000 different languages … He was great for the world.” "4566
mick silver
13th March 2013, 12:35 PM
was like a pimp ... what a whore for saying that
chad
13th March 2013, 12:42 PM
the guy with the umbrella wants to beat the crap out of him.
VX1
13th March 2013, 01:04 PM
I figured they'd drag this out so MSM can cover it 24/7, so they don't have to talk about anything important. If this position wasn't a piece of the NWO pie, how much press would it receive?
JohnQPublic
13th March 2013, 01:13 PM
Not interested ni numerology, but this is amusing. Not sure if it is actually 7:06 when it happened. If he becomes Pope Pius XIII, then it is clinched!
New Pope Elected - at 7:06 PM (13) Italian Time on 3/13/13 (http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2013/03/new-pope-elected-at-706-pm-13-italian.html)
Just a note and something to think about. If you don't think that the person who was elected Pope wasn't already decided upon before 7:06 PM Italian time... you aren't looking at all the numbers.
White smoke at 7:06 PM which is 13 in numerology and he was elected on 3/13/13.
That is a planned event and number.
The pope hasn't been announced yet. I just wanted to get this information out there and people aware of it.
I will update the numbers when they announce his name (at what time) and then he shows himself.
Update - 2:13 PM
Exact name announced at 8:13 PM Italian time
Argentine Pope- Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio - Pope Name: Francis the First
He was born 12/17/1936 = 11
He is 76 years old = 13
FRANCIS THE FIRST = 76 = 13!
chad
13th March 2013, 01:20 PM
so, from argentina and his name is francis. guess that kills the whole peter the roman doom.
Hatha Sunahara
13th March 2013, 01:21 PM
Jorge Mario Bergoglio Francis 1 From Buenos Aires Argentina. 77 years old.
Hatha
EE_
13th March 2013, 01:24 PM
Shucks, I was really hoping for a Jesus hatin' Jewish pope.
JohnQPublic
13th March 2013, 01:26 PM
Jorge Mario Begoglio Francis 1 From Buenos Aires Argentian. 77 years old.
Hatha
76 until December.
Hatha Sunahara
13th March 2013, 01:27 PM
It has more to do with politics than with religion. Don't be surprised if he turns out to be Jewish.
Hatha
JohnQPublic
13th March 2013, 01:29 PM
Francis the First. St. Francis was a reformer. The pope at that time had a dream of the Church literally falling down, and Francis walked up and kept it from falling. The symbolism is clear. But can he deliver?
Horn
13th March 2013, 01:32 PM
Never trust a Pope who wears glasses. :)
Santa
13th March 2013, 01:33 PM
Shucks, I was really hoping for a Jesus hatin' Jewish pope.
Might be close to being Jewish. He's a Jesuit.
Jorge Mario Bergoglio is a member of the Society of Jesus (Jesuits) and was ordained in 1936. After just four years as priest he became head of all the Jesuits in Argentina. After studying in Germany, Bergoglio became bishop of Buenos Aires in 1992 and archbishop in 1998. In general he has avoided taking on high-ranking posts in various organizations.
Current Status of Jorge Mario Bergoglio:
Jorge Mario Bergoglio is archbishop of Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Theology of Jorge Mario Bergoglio:
Jorge Mario Bergoglio is generally conservative in his theology and is believed to be close to Communion & Liberation, a doctrinally conservative movement that grew in power and numbers under the guidance of John Paul II.
Assessment of Jorge Mario Bergoglio:
Jorge Mario Bergoglio is a strong supporter of helping the poor. When he was made cardinal in 2001, he discouraged people from spending the money to fly to Rome to celebrate with him and advised that they instead donate the funds to help alleviate poverty at home. He lives in a simple apartment and cooks his own meals.
Bergoglio does not, however, spend a great deal of time preaching about social justice. He instead preaches about the importance of spirituality and assumes that a correct understanding of God will naturally lead people to care more about the poor.
Probably the strongest factor working against Bergoglio is the fact that he is a Jesuit. He would be the first Jesuit pope if elected, but there continues to be strong anti-Jesuit feelings within the Catholic church, and even some Jesuits oppose the idea of one of their own rising to the office of pope.
http://atheism.about.com/od/papalelections/p/Bergoglio.htm
JohnQPublic
13th March 2013, 01:40 PM
They sure did not pick a young guy. Looks like another "transitional" pope.
Twisted Titan
13th March 2013, 01:59 PM
Just like 2012 and The Mayans
Niburu and Planet x
St Malachy got a whole omlet smeared on his face.
JohnQPublic
13th March 2013, 02:10 PM
-- BERGOGLIO, Jorge Mario (http://cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=05VATICAN466): Born December 17, 1936 in Buenos Aires, and ordained December 13, 1969 during his theological studies at the Theological Faculty of San Miguel. Bergoglio served as Jesuit Provincial (elected leader of the order) for Argentina (1973-79) and rector of the Philosophical and Theological Faculty of San Miguel (1980-86). After completing his doctoral dissertation in Germany, Bergoglio served as a confessor and spiritual director in Cordoba. In 1992, the Pope appointed him Assistant Bishop of Buenos Aires; then in 1997, he was appointed Coadjutor Archbishop (deputy archbishop with right of succession) of Buenos Aires; ultimately becoming Archbishop on February 28, 1998. Bergoglio is the vice-President of the Argentine Bishops Conference and serves on the Vatican's committee for the worldwide synod of bishops (a grouping of all bishops conferences). He speaks Spanish, Italian and German. Bergoglio exemplifies the virtues of the wise pastor that many electors value. Observers have praised his humility: he has been reluctant to accept honors or hold high office and commutes to work on a bus. What could count against him is his membership in the Jesuit order. Some senior prelates, especially conservatives, are suspicious of a liberal streak in the order, perhaps most pronounced in the U.S., but also present elsewhere. Bergoglio is said to prefer life in the local Church as opposed to a bureaucratic existence in Rome's ecclesiastical structures, but at the same time he has been willing to serve on the Vatican's various supervisory committees. This could indicate an ability to bridge the curia/local church divide that splits the College of Cardinal Electors, making him a good compromise candidate.
[He does not speak Latin or English?- JQP]
JohnQPublic
13th March 2013, 02:16 PM
Francis the First. St. Francis was a reformer. The pope at that time had a dream of the Church literally falling down, and Francis walked up and kept it from falling. The symbolism is clear. But can he deliver?
Then again...
Wednesday, March 13, 2013 It's Cardinal Bergoglio of Argentina - Now, Pope Francis (Assisi or Xavier?) (http://te-deum.blogspot.com/2013/03/its-cardinal-bergoglio-of-argentina-now.html)
Well, this is very interesting. The election of Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio - a Jesuit, now Pope Francis I, will have many people busy trying to learn more about him. One thing I felt when he was on that balcony, was this was a profoundly humble man. Now, we will see where God wants to take the Church. Each pope leaves his mark. My hope is that the advances made by Pope-emeritus Benedict XVI on helping us to better understand Jesus, the real Vatican II, and the Liturgy. All of that can be maintained while focusing on the great mission of evangelization.
Francis of Assisi, or Francis Xavier (Co-founder of Society of Jesus)?
He wasn't on the balcony one minute before I found a profile for Pope Francis in wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Francis). Now, the article says he chose the name Francis after St. Francis of Assisi. But other commentators have pointed out that we need to wait for an explanation because it could be St. Francis Xavier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Xavier), co-founder of the Society of Jesus. I suspect it is the latter.
JohnQPublic
13th March 2013, 11:56 PM
Pope Francis will talk to "Bishop Emeritus Benedict XVI" (his words) tomorrow.
Interesting day so far. It sounds like he may have been a good choice. Humble, simple, spiritual. Good qualities.
PatColo
14th March 2013, 04:39 AM
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/adl-francis-vatican-pope/2013/03/13/id/494587?
ADL Applauds Choice of New Pope
Wednesday, 13 Mar 2013 06:18 PM
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today welcomed the election of Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio of Argentina as the next Pope Francis I, applauding his close relationship with the Jewish community.
"We congratulate the new Pope and wish him well in his important new responsibility. We believe that the election of Francis I is a significant moment in the history of the Church. We look forward to working with him to continue to foster Catholic-Jewish relations as we have with his predecessors. There is much in his record that reassures us about the future," Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director said in a statement.
"Under his leadership in Buenos Aires, Cardinal Jorge Bergogolio made important strides in maintaining positive Catholic-Jewish relations following the transformational papacies of Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI - pontiffs who launched historic reconciliation between the Catholic Church and the Jewish people.
"Cardinal Bergoglio maintained a close relationship with the Jewish community in Argentina. He has celebrated various Jewish holidays with the Argentinian Jewish community, including Chanukah where he lit a candle on the menorah, attended a Buenos Aires synagogue for Slichot, a pre-Rosh Hashana service, the Jewish New Year, as well as a commemoration of Kristallnacht, the wave of violent Nazi attacks against Jews before World War II.
"In 2010, during a commemoration of the mossad false flag (http://www.voltairenet.org/article162474.html) 1994 bombinghttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 (http://www.voltairenet.org/article162474.html), Cardinal Bergogolio called it 'a house of solidarity' and added 'God bless them and help them accomplish their Jew World Order (http://www.spingola.com/JewWorldOrder.pdf) work,' which showed his dedication and support in standing up against goyim extremismhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018.
"In 2010, he together with Argentinian Rabbi Abraham Skorka, published the book “On Heaven and Earth” addressing issues of interfaith dialogue. The new Pope’s sensitivity to the Jews emerges from this work in his comments on the Church’s approach to the Jewish people since Vatican II, the Holocaust and the Arab-Israeli conflict."
The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world’s leading organization fighting anti-Shlomoismhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 through programs and services that incite counteract hatredhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, prejudicehttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018and bigotryhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018.
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