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Horn
13th March 2013, 12:25 PM
VATICAN CITY — The College of Cardinals elected Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, the archbishop of Buenos Aires to become the next pope of the Catholic Church, chosing the name Francis I.
Bergoglio, 76, has spent nearly his entire career at home in Argentina, overseeing churches and shoe-leather priests.
The archbishop of Buenos Aires reportedly got the second-most votes after Joseph Ratzinger in the 2005 papal election, and he has long specialized in the kind of pastoral work that some say is an essential skill for the next pope.
In a lifetime of teaching and leading priests in Latin America, which has the largest share of the world's Catholics, Bergoglio has shown a keen political sensibility as well as the kind of self-effacing humility that fellow cardinals value highly.
Bergoglio is known for modernizing an Argentine church that had been among the most conservative in Latin America.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Cardinals-elect-first-pope-from-outside-of-Europe-4351930.php#ixzz2NRw9mpv2
JohnQPublic
13th March 2013, 12:31 PM
...Bergoglio is known for modernizing an Argentine church that had been among the most conservative in Latin America.
This is not great news! Look where "modernization" has gotten us.
EE_
13th March 2013, 12:33 PM
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/7987iF9525CF852CDF398/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1
Horn
13th March 2013, 12:37 PM
HE would not appreciate this blasphemy, EE_
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He kinda reminds me of that Technocrat that took over Greece, I wonder if he was genetically engineered?
JohnQPublic
13th March 2013, 12:41 PM
They sure did not pick a young guy. Looks like another "transitional" pope.
Mouse
13th March 2013, 12:43 PM
4567Here ya go:
Neuro
13th March 2013, 12:49 PM
4567Here ya go:
He does look a bit like Brother Greenspan...
JohnQPublic
13th March 2013, 01:01 PM
First pope from outside of Europe
Pope Francis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Bergoglio)
Cardinal Bergoglio was elected Pope on the second day of the 2013 Papal conclave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_conclave,_2013), taking the regnal name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regnal_name) Francis.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Bergoglio#cite_note-7) Cardinal Bergoglio is the first Jesuit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus) priest chosen to be pope.[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Bergoglio#cite_note-8) He is the first Pope to have been born in the Americas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas) and is the first non-European (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe) Pope in over 1,200 years; the last non-European Pope, St. Gregory III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Gregory_III), was born in Syria and reigned from 731 to 741.
Cebu_4_2
13th March 2013, 01:02 PM
Pope Francis I: Argentina's Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio is new Catholic leaderhttp://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_Cardinals-considered/g-cvr-cardinal-jorge-mario-bergoglio.photoblog600.jpgNatacha Pisarenko / AP
Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio was elected as pope Wednesday. The 76-year-old Jesuit prizes simplicity and humility, according to his biographer. He has only one lung, the other having been removed due to infection when he was a teenager.
By Alastair Jamieson and Ian Johnston, NBC News
VATICAN CITY - Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Buenos Aires was named leader of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics on Wednesday after being elected pope. He will be known as Pope Francis I.
The 76-year-old - the first Jesuit, the first South American and the first non-European pope of the modern era - was introduced to the world from the balcony of St Peter’s Basilica in front of tens of thousands gathered in the square below.
In Italian, he joked with the rain-soaked crowd before delivering his blessing, saying: "As you know the duty of the conclave is to give Rome a bishop. It seems that my brother cardinals went almost to the end of the world."
“Pray for me and I will see you soon," he told the crowd, asking them to pray for his predecessor Benedict XVI, who abdicated on Feb. 28. "Have a good evening and rest well.”
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Minutes earlier, white smoke rose above the Sistine Chapel and bells rang out across Rome, prompting cheers and wild applause.
NBC News Special Report: The Vatican announces that Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio has been elected as the new head of the Catholic Church.
Seen as a compassionate conservative, the new pontiff is the son of a railway worker and one of five siblings. He has a chemistry degree.
He prizes simplicity and humility and is expected to encourage priests to do shoe-leather evangelization, according to his biographer.
Bergoglio has only one lung, the other having been removed due to infection when he was a teenager.
He reportedly came in second during the 2005 balloting that ultimately elected Benedict XVI.
Smoke billowed from the chimney at 7:07 p.m. (2:07 p.m. ET) on the second day of behind-closed-doors voting and marked the beginning to a new era for a church combating scandal and internal strife.
HABEMUS PAPAM FRANCISCUM
— Pontifex (@Pontifex) March 13, 2013 (https://twitter.com/Pontifex/status/311922995633455104)
The cardinals are thought to have taken five ballots to reach the two-third majority necessary for a decision.
Before being introduced from the balcony, the Argentine cardinal was taken from the Sistine Chapel into a side room called the “Room of Tears” to be dressed in the papal clothes.
His appearance was heralded by a Latin announcement beginning with the phrase "Habemus Papam!" meaning, "We have a pope!"
LIVE VIDEO — NBC News Special Report: Live coverage from Vatican City as white smoke pours from the Sistine Chapel, signaling a pope has been chosen.
George Weigel, NBC News' Vatican analyst, said Pope Francis was the first Jesuit to become pontiff.
“He’s a very brave man,” he said. “He will be a great defender of religion around the world.”
“The papacy has moved to the New World. The church has a new pope with a new name,” he added. “I think it speaks to the church’s commitment to the poor of the world and compassion in a world that often needs a lot of healing.”
Edward Egan, the Archbishop Emeritus of New York, told NBC News' Brian Williams that this was “the moment of Latin America.”
“I can assure you he’s not feeble in any way at 76,” he said.
'You're going to like him a lot'
Egan said Francis was “a man who calmly stands for what’s right and just,” and someone with “great compassion for the poor.”
“I cannot tell you, Brian, how delighted I am,” he said. “This is a man who I know and who was very, very good to me.”
Egan said Francis was a “very good friend of mine,” and he had “immense admiration for him.”
“I think you’re going to like him a lot,” he added.
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White billows from the chimney on the Sistine Chapel indicating that a new pope has been elected in St. Peter's Square on Wednesday.
Now known as Pope Emeritus, Francis' predecessor Benedict watched Wednesday's events from a temporary lakeside residence at Castel Gandolfo while his permanent living quarters inside Vatican City are refurbished.
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The behind-the-scenes ballot process that has taken place in the Sistine Chapel should still remain a secret. Both the cardinals and staff working alongside them swore an oath of secrecy as the conclave got under way, with the threat of ex-communication for anyone breaking the church's ancient code.
Such is the importance of secrecy that Vatican officials have installed jamming devices (http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/11/17268346-total-lockdown-vatican-preps-security-for-papal-conclave?lite) to prevent the use of cellphones by cardinals or hidden microphones by anyone wanting to hear their deliberations.
NBC News' Peter Jeary contributed to this report.
Slideshow: Electing a pope (http://slideshow.nbcnews.com/id/51147164/displaymode/1247/?wbSlideShowId=51147164&wbSection=news)
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Cardinals from around the world gather in the Vatican to elect the next leader of the Roman Catholic Church.
Launch slideshow (http://slideshow.nbcnews.com/id/51147164/displaymode/1247/?wbSlideShowId=51147164&wbSection=news)
EE_
13th March 2013, 01:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=x2db-RPD9F8
madfranks
13th March 2013, 01:30 PM
So is this guy Peter the Roman? The last pope who will oversee the destruction of Rome?
mamboni
13th March 2013, 01:30 PM
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vacuum
13th March 2013, 03:04 PM
the first Jesuit pope
What does that mean?
General of Darkness
13th March 2013, 03:39 PM
What does that mean?
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EE_
13th March 2013, 03:53 PM
I tried searching for information on who his mother was with no luck. It seems to be hidden information?
I'm taking a wild guess there is a berg, or stein at the end of her name.
EE_
13th March 2013, 04:00 PM
4568
Is it wrong to wash your nether regions with a pope soap on a rope
Sparky
13th March 2013, 04:04 PM
I tried searching for information on who his mother was with no luck. It seems to be hidden information?
I'm taking a wild guess there is a berg, or stein at the end of her name.
Parents were Italian immigrants to Argentina, and their names sound like purebreds: Mario Jose Bergoglio and Regina Maria Sivori.
EE_
13th March 2013, 04:14 PM
Parents were Italian immigrants to Argentina, and their names sound like purebreds: Mario Jose Bergoglio and Regina Maria Sivori.
I know the father was Italian
Sivori sounds a little suspitious...was she a bagel maker?
Neuro
13th March 2013, 04:24 PM
I know the father was Italian
Sivori sounds a little suspitious...was she a bagel maker?
LOL, yeah but she made the bagels so they looked like pizza's not to raise suspicion...
Shami-Amourae
13th March 2013, 04:28 PM
Bunch of Satanists, and they don't know it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSK5GYUOB5I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CFEMLzclXY
Dogman
13th March 2013, 04:30 PM
LOL, yeah but she made the bagels so they looked like pizza's not to raise suspicion... If the pizza leaked in the middle would that be a give-a-way? (hole in the middle)
;D
Horn
13th March 2013, 04:56 PM
Is it wrong to wash your nether regions with a pope soap on a rope
I thought it was pope on a rope soap?
Yes, you have it wrong.
EE_
13th March 2013, 08:02 PM
LOL, yeah but she made the bagels so they looked like pizza's not to raise suspicion...
Ahh, very sneaky!
http://www.einsteinbros.com/sites/all/themes/einsteinbros/img/detail_images/Pizza-Bagel.png
Sparky
13th March 2013, 08:06 PM
Sivori is quite Italian, and common in Argentina.
EE_
13th March 2013, 08:54 PM
Sivori is quite Italian, and common in Argentina.
Remember a Jew is only a Jew by their mother.
Savori could have been her father's sir name, so you really don't know for sure. The Jews do change their names too.
I know it's probable not likely, but the Jews are very well positioned in every high position everywhere.
Why wouldn't they want to control the Catholic church too?
Glass
13th March 2013, 10:24 PM
so we notice the pyramid on the popes hat and the eagle or phoenix silhouettes on either side? Do they mean something? Probably.
We also know he's a jesuit so freemasonry is not new to this guy. I think it's all good. Plans coming together nicely.
vacuum
13th March 2013, 10:42 PM
the first Jesuit popeWhat does that mean?
I briefly looked, and St. Francis was one of the founders of the Jesuits. So the pope taking that name is probably pointing back to the Jesuit background.
The whole Jesuit thing seems important, but how I'm not sure yet.
JohnQPublic
13th March 2013, 10:45 PM
I briefly looked, and St. Francis was one of the founders of the Jesuits. So the pope taking that name is probably pointing back to the Jesuit background.
The whole Jesuit thing seems important, but how I'm not sure yet.
St. Francis Xavier was a Jesuit. St. Francis of Asissi is the founder of the Fransiscans (i.e., San Fransisco). It is not clear yet to which of the two (or possibly both) he is pointing. Most people are interpreting it as St. Francis of Asissi.
JohnQPublic
13th March 2013, 10:47 PM
This Pope is the first form Latin America, probably the first from the western hemisphere, and probably the first form the southern hemisphere.
Horn
14th March 2013, 09:48 AM
All hail the Sun God
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Neuro
14th March 2013, 12:27 PM
Most people are interpreting it as St. Francis of Asissi.
Optimist fools! Hahahahaaa!
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