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Ponce
15th March 2013, 02:15 PM
Only thing that I still don't like is the fact the someone can change the size of a screwhead, or some else that's very simple, and then apply for a new patent based on your paptent....... it was done with a patent that I have, as a matter of fact.......36 more patents.........you must have the money not only for the patent itself but also to put it in the market right away. I believe that a new patent that the basis for it is another patent should be at least 20% new.
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Saturday, around 18 months after President Obama signed it into law, the Leahy-Smith America Invents Act will take effect. Ostensibly, the act is designed to bring U.S. patent law in line with the rest of the world. Of course, not everybody feels it will help achieve the patent system’s goal of protecting inventors while fostering innovation, and its effect could be even more pronounced on the DIY inventor.


Although the act includes a number of small changes, the meat of it is considered the biggest shakeup at the USPTO since 1952. Formally known as H.R. 1249, the act was penned by Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX), the duo who introduced the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and Protect IP Act (PIPA). For product designers and makers and DIYers the proverbial monkey wrench is being thrown into the mechanism for filing a patent — and the timing with which you do so. Today, if you file a patent, someone can come along and tell you they had that idea first, and with much documentation and legal wrangling, deny you the right to apply that invention. Tomorrow, nobody will care who came up with the idea first — only who filed it.

It’s called “First to File” (as opposed to the previous “First to Invent”) and it shifts the system’s emphasis from the date it was invented to the date its inventor dropped an application at the patent office. (It does preclude stolen ideas; it’s been more accurately termed “First Inventor to File.”)

“It’s a big deal, and all the patent attorneys I know are busy right now, filing applications before that goes into effect, Saturday, which tells me that most of their clients are better off under the old system,” says Robert Barr, a professor of intellectual property law at UC-Berkeley, though he adds that some of the rush is simply due to uncertainty about how the new law will play out.

“Under the old system, if you kept lab notebooks … you could prove you were the first inventor even if you were not the first to file, so you didn’t necessarily have to be the first to get to the patent office,” he says. “Now, with a few exceptions, you need to be the first. If two people come up with the same invention, and they often do … it’s not going to matter if you can prove you were the first inventor if you weren’t the first to file.”

Supporters of the law say that, in addition to aligning U.S. law with the rest of the world, the act will speed up patent review and cut down on the backlog of applications. The patent office offers steep discounts to small businesses, and under the new law will offer steeper discounts to entities with fewer than four patents. But the majority of the cost of a patent remains in the fees associated with having it written up by a qualified lawyer, and opponents worry that first-to-file will favor big companies that can afford to apply for more patents, more quickly.

“If you’re working out of your basement, you make a decision, hey I came up with something clever, now I got to scrape together some money to hire an attorney,” says Jonathan Withrow, a partner at IP law firm Rankin, Hill & Clark. “You may not file an application ’cause you don’t have the money.” And that leaves the door open for someone else to file.

“Will it happen that often?” says Withrow. “I doubt it. Does it happen that often now? I don’t think so. But it’s a possibility.”

http://www.wired.com/design/2013/03/america-invents-act/

vacuum
15th March 2013, 02:23 PM
Tomorrow, nobody will care who came up with the idea first — only who filed it.

It’s called “First to File” (as opposed to the previous “First to Invent”) and it shifts the system’s emphasis from the date it was invented to the date its inventor dropped an application at the patent office. (It does preclude stolen ideas; it’s been more accurately termed “First Inventor to File.”)

This is disgusting.

It's going to breed predatory practices of finding unpatented inventions, patenting them, and forcing the inventor to pay royalties on his own invention. Or better yet, patenting open-source hardware which is created collaboratively with no budget for lawyers.

These two people are total scum.

Carl
15th March 2013, 03:30 PM
I believe I still have my "poor man's patent/copyright" (registered mail copy in envelope w/postmarked stamps over seal) of the "Tablet Book Reader/PC" I submitted to IBM back in 1992. Maybe I should dig it out...

Ponce
15th March 2013, 04:12 PM
That's good Carl.....do ti, tell you why........many many years ago I took a copyright for a form of a cartoon that I came up with and it was called....."Mr S Line and Tony"..... I sent copies to the LA Times and several other newspapers......about a year late the Times did put it in a Sunday paper without telling me or paying me.........the next day I went to the time who put it in the paper and they, of course, sent me to their in house attorney..........to make the story shot, I took the precaution to send eveything by register mail and with a signature request........I ended up with $500.00 in my pocket but they didn't want to published anymore...........and after all this years I still have everything put away.

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madfranks
15th March 2013, 04:14 PM
Patents, and intellectual property laws in general, do far more to restrict innovation and progress than they do to foster it.

Ponce
15th March 2013, 07:45 PM
Your got it Franks........I have many ideas and inventions (do you know the difference?) that I could put out but I am to old to fight the system and others.....the one that made me the money? The Squeezable.....was not patentable. Someone else put one in the mardet three years later an wrote on his display case "Patent Pending".....I went to see them and had a ball because it was not patentable but only copyright.....the one that I took to court was because he copy my display box 95%,
got $30,000 ($10,000) for the lawyer.

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