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collector
19th March 2013, 12:33 PM
You've got to love the way this kid goes out and gets drunk, then breaks into a house through a back window and the father states that the kid was mistakenly in the wrong house. How does he know his drunken kid wasn't burglarizing the neighbor's house ?? Of course the media runs with the explanation and doesn't even challenge the explanation.

Once again, looking to demonize castle doctrine laws. How long before O claims that this kid looks like it could be his own?


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/teen-fatally-shot-mistakenly-walked-wrong-house-163650001.html
A 16-year-old who lived in Loudoun County, Va., was shot and killed (http://yhoo.it/ZXWsfR) when he accidentally entered the wrong house.
Caleb Gordley, a popular athlete who had been living in a brick house with his parents and sister for about a year, sneaked out of his house to go to a party with friends after he'd been grounded for not cleaning his room.
When he returned around 2 a.m. he slipped into the house he thought was his. Friends said he had been drinking and mistook his neighbor’s similar house two doors down for his own and climbed in through the back window.
When the burglar alarm sounded, the homeowner treated Caleb as an intruder, and shot and killed him.
Caleb’s father, Shawn Gordley, told The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/loudoun-teen-fatally-shot-by-homeowner-identified/2013/03/18/1e8611f8-8fe2-11e2-9cfd-36d6c9b5d7ad_story.html?hpid=z1%20http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/249554/158/Caleb-Gordley-Park-View-High-School-Student-Shot-By-Homeowner-In-Loudoun-County-Va), “They have the exact same staircase as us, the exact same carpet. Caleb clearly thought he was in his own house.” He added, “He probably stumbled around and was just trying to go to his room.”
At Sterling Park High school in Sterling, Va., students mourned the loss of a talented athlete. The coach of the basketball team, Mike Koscinski, who had advanced Caleb to varsity this year, said of the junior, “He was the hype man. He got everyone hyped up before games.”
A statement from the family reads, “Between the darkness and him being under the influence of alcohol, his mistake turned into the ultimate tragedy.”
Police are continuing to investigate the shooting, but Virginia law gives “wide latitude to people who fear for their safety when someone breaks into their homes,” according to The Washington Post.

Dogman
19th March 2013, 12:40 PM
Unfortunately shit does happen!


He is not the first nor will be the last,


Back in my past I have done almost the same, but my friends did hold back from pulling the trigger.

madfranks
19th March 2013, 01:41 PM
When he returned around 2 a.m. he slipped into the house he thought was his.

Was this kid in the habit of entering his own house through the back window? I have a hard time believing that someone could forget where their house is and "accidentally" enter the wrong one.


“They have the exact same staircase as us, the exact same carpet. Caleb clearly thought he was in his own house.” He added, “He probably stumbled around and was just trying to go to his room.”

Again, through the back window? I've never been so drunk that I forgot where my house was and try to come in the back yard window.

mick silver
19th March 2013, 02:39 PM
i dont give a shit who you are if you break into my home it will end bad for someone

osoab
19th March 2013, 02:50 PM
Was this kid in the habit of entering his own house through the back window? I have a hard time believing that someone could forget where their house is and "accidentally" enter the wrong one.



Again, through the back window? I've never been so drunk that I forgot where my house was and try to come in the back yard window.


I knew a college student that got plastered and then broke into his apartment. The problem, however, was that he broke into his apartment from the previous year.
The kid broke through a window then crawled under the kitchen table and passed out.

It does happen.

vacuum
19th March 2013, 02:58 PM
It probably was an accident, but whose fault was it?

The parents?
The kid?
His friends?

Those are the people who had some level of control of the situation.

It's hard to tell if the neighbor was at fault or not (morally that is; I'm not questioning it from a legal perspective). It all depends on how exactly it went down. Just because someone is in your house doesn't always mean you should shoot them. However if your safety is compromised and you have a family to protect it can be pretty difficult to compensate for other people's stupid behavior.

Mouse
19th March 2013, 04:23 PM
my car is in the front yard
and I'm sleeping with my clothes on
Came in through the window last night
AND GOT SHOT
SHOT

Horn
19th March 2013, 07:36 PM
Actually its the government's fault for putting far too many code restrictions on building & design.

The only way to make money through planning & building is repeating the same home model over & over.

madfranks
19th March 2013, 08:03 PM
Actually its the government's fault for putting far too many code restrictions on building & design.

The only way to make money through planning & building is repeating the same home model over & over.

I disagree here. Developers just don't want to pay for multiple designs when they can pay for two or three and simply repeat them. I'm working for a developer right now who is building a four unit town home, all four are the same, he didn't want to pay me to create different layouts for them all.

Glass
19th March 2013, 08:18 PM
I disagree here. Developers just don't want to pay for multiple designs when they can pay for two or three and simply repeat them. I'm working for a developer right now who is building a four unit town home, all four are the same, he didn't want to pay me to create different layouts for them all.

It makes sense if you can repeat a design, even if it's just a mirror layout. You save in design, but you also save on the materials estimation and ordering. Do one take off and just order X times, flip your specifics like door hangs, sink hands and so on and your are good to go.

Son-of-Liberty
19th March 2013, 10:39 PM
Was this kid in the habit of entering his own house through the back window? I have a hard time believing that someone could forget where their house is and "accidentally" enter the wrong one.



Again, through the back window? I've never been so drunk that I forgot where my house was and try to come in the back yard window.

Yeah I have been pretty plastered a few times as well and have a hard time believing this stuff.

So drunk you don't know where you are but still coherent enough to break and enter? Kid didn't notice different patio furniture? Lawn ornaments? That his key didn't work?

It could happen but you still can't put all the blame on the home owner.

midnight rambler
19th March 2013, 11:04 PM
There's NO excuse for the knucklehead's behavior. Everyone should be responsible and accountable for their own actions. Being drunk as a skunk is no defense for anything.

Late at night/early morning hours before sunrise one hasn't the slightest idea of the intent of someone breaking into one's home, but whatever the intent is it's nothing good. Need emergency help in the middle of the night? Then knock on the door and call out. Anything less than that is very likely to be meet with deadly force. Everyone with any sense should know this. So some dumbass got his shit blown away for being stupid in a no stupid zone. Good - we got one less moron in the world, cleaning up the gene pool. To quote Bill Hicks, "We lost a moron...I just felt the world get lighter!"

Glass
19th March 2013, 11:36 PM
I'm constantly mistaking other peoples cars for my car. I do this about once a month. I'll sometimes try it a couple times before I look through the windows and realize there's not enough crap in the vehicle for it to be my car. Now if I was really shitfaced, apart from the fact I shouldn't be trying to get in the thing, I'd probably struggle to work it out. Would I bust it open? Who knows... when your pissed totally bat shit crazy stuff can make sense.

I'll say, there are 2 sides to the story, the truth will be somewhere in the middle. Even though we have not attachment to the guy, other people do. They are entitled to mourn and mourning is not always a logical thing.

Horn
20th March 2013, 12:55 AM
I disagree here. Developers just don't want to pay for multiple designs when they can pay for two or three and simply repeat them. I'm working for a developer right now who is building a four unit town home, all four are the same, he didn't want to pay me to create different layouts for them all.

Exactly you're part of the problem as a government entity stamp, I had the same as you job for 15 years.