The Bitcoin Tracking Thread

[EE_]

"Your bitcoins or your life motherfucker!"
The beauty of it is, if the kidnappers get him to give up his bitcoins, they won't be traced or caught. Love it!
So there is still opportunity for people who missed the boat to cash in on bitcoin! Find a bitcoin millionaire, kidnap him, force him to give them up and you're home free!

Bitcoin Exchange CEO Kidnapped Leaving Office
by Tyler Durden
Fri, 12/29/2017 - 10:09

Being a "Bitcoin Billionaire" just got a bit more complicated after reports surfaced that the CEO of EXMO, a UK-based Bitcoin exchange, was kidnapped in Kiev. According to The Telegraph, Pavel Lerner (40) was pulled into a black Mercedes Benz by a group of armed men wearing ski masks as he left his office in the Obolon district of Kiev on December 26.

Adding to the intrigue of the abduction, EXMO's website suffered a DDOS attack this morning, which knocked trading temporarily offline, just as news of the kidnapping begin to draw public attention.

Following the news of Lerner's disappearance, EXMO issued a statement requesting "any information regarding his whereabouts" and assuring customers that he could not be 'convinced' to give up their Bitcoin or personal data stored on the exchange.

A spokesman was unavailable for comment but a statement sent to RT, the broadcaster backed by the Russian government, said that Mr Lerner's kidnapping would not affect the business.

"We are doing everything possible to speed up the search of Pavel Lerner," it said.

"Any information regarding his whereabouts is very much appreciated. Despite the situation, the exchange is working as usual. We also want to stress that nature of Pavel’s job at EXMO doesn’t assume access either to storages or any personal data of users. All users funds are absolutely safe."

Pavel Lerner

According to RT, Lerner, a Russian citizen, has a number of startups in the Ukraine linked to cryptocurrency mining and blockchain technology in addition to being the CEO of EXMO.

Earlier this month we reported that, Nice Hash, the largest crypto-mining marketplace, was hacked with over 4,700 bitcoins, worth over $62 million, stolen and ultimately ending up at the following address:

Of course, it's completely unclear whether Lerner's disappearance has anything to do with his links to various cryptocurrency ventures and Kiev police have yet to release any details on potential motives for the kidnapping.

[Horn]

I'm sure no one that's making money on cryptos cares what happens to the world, or our future.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJfJPxLntZU

[EE_]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJfJPxLntZU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inXQAj0Wlno


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG7zLhEWanc

[EE_]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ej88Bicts4

[EE_]

Nice little haul for a days work, good work guys!

Crypto Exchange CEO Released After Paying $1 Million Ransom In Bitcoin
by Tyler Durden
Fri, 12/29/2017 - 14:45

Just yesterday we warned that the lives of the world's new "Bitcoin Billionaires" had just become a bit more complicated after reports surfaced that one such crypto investor, Pavel Lerner, was kidnapped by a group of armed men wearing ski masks as he left his office in the Obolon district of Kiev earlier this week.

While it may have seemed that his fate was sealed at the moment of his kidnapping, the Financial Times has just confirmed the Lerner has been released after paying his kidnappers a $1 million ransom in Bitcoin.

An executive of a UK-registered cryptocurrency exchange kidnapped in Ukraine this week has been released after paying a ransom of more than $1m in bitcoins, according to an adviser to the Ukrainian interior minister, in a crime he dubbed “bitcoin kidnapping and extortion”.

“He was kidnapped by an armed gang for the purpose of extorting bitcoins,” Mr Gerashchenko told the Financial Times, adding: “We have operative information that he paid more than $1m worth of bitcoins.”

He said Mr Lerner was held for one and a half days, “then released in a state of shock. ... He got very lucky that he remained alive.”

Lerner

As we noted yesterday, Pavel, a Russian citizen, has a number of startups in Ukraine linked to cryptocurrency mining and blockchain technology. In addition, he is also the CEO of EXMO, a UK-based Bitcoin exchange.

According to prior reports from The Telegraph, Lerner (40) was pulled into a black Mercedes Benz by a group of armed men wearing ski masks as he left his office on December 26. Adding to the intrigue of the abduction, EXMO's website suffered a DDOS attack yesterday morning, which knocked trading temporarily offline, just as news of the kidnapping begin to draw public attention.

Following the news of Lerner's disappearance, EXMO issued a statement requesting "any information regarding his whereabouts" and assuring customers that he could not be 'convinced' to give up their Bitcoin or personal data stored on the exchange.

A spokesman was unavailable for comment but a statement sent to RT, the broadcaster backed by the Russian government, said that Mr Lerner's kidnapping would not affect the business.

"We are doing everything possible to speed up the search of Pavel Lerner," it said.

"Any information regarding his whereabouts is very much appreciated. Despite the situation, the exchange is working as usual. We also want to stress that nature of Pavel’s job at EXMO doesn’t assume access either to storages or any personal data of users. All users funds are absolutely safe."

Pavel Lerner

Of course, Lerner is not the first Bitcoin extortion target for the world's new breed of crypto terrorists. Earlier this month we reported that, Nice Hash, the largest crypto-mining marketplace, was hacked with over 4,700 bitcoins, worth over $62 million, stolen and ultimately ending up at the following address:

Conclusion: If you've made a small fortune trading Bitcoin over the past couple of quarters it may be best to keep that information to yourself...

[Ares]

Now for my opinion, Jews are behind Bitcoin and the crypto industry and they have much bigger plans then to give people like you and I a decentralized currency.

Not true, jews have never, EVER in the history of money EVER opened their ledger for an audit willingly. The Bitcoin blockchain is public and can be viewed, searched, and analyzed at will. There is even a site called walletexplorer.com that is able to track (exchange wise) who owns a wallet. Jews scurry from the light like cockroaches, to say they are behind it is to be ignorant of its use. At this point in time I would of thought you would of looked into crytpo currencies further. If you want a Jew sponsored and 100% controlled coin look no further than Ripple. 100% premined, controlled, centralized garbage banker coin that is attempting to be used to facilitate intra bank lending using the Ripple protocol.


*The above has nothing to do with people profiting during the transition into a global currency for the elite Jewish NWO.
I'm sure no one that's making money on cryptos cares what happens to the world, or our future, as long as you're getting rich now. Now is all that matters.

Also not true, there is a battle going on for the heart and soul of Bitcoin. Between those who want to try and control it and those who want to leave it decentralized open and free. If The jews were behind it, there would be no battle for it's existence.

[Jewboo]

If The jews were behind it, there would be no battle for it's existence.

https://www.financialsense.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/desktop/users/u290/images/2012/kissinger-saudi-arabia.jpg

Like their kosher petrodollar?

[Horn]

Ares, stated in another thread that "Bitcoin were price searching itself"

Hell be it that Jews don't create a "battle for existence" when price searching.

In fact, I think that's pretty much all they ever do. "We need enemies" is their sole motto and chaos creed.

Once the battle won, the jew's enemy is homogenized for future counter use never exiled.

[Ares]

Ares, stated in another thread that "Bitcoin were price searching itself"

Hell be it that Jews don't create a "battle for existence" when price searching.

In fact, I think that's pretty much all they ever do. "We need enemies" is their sole motto and chaos creed.

Once the battle won, the jew's enemy is homogenized for future counter use never exiled.

We've seen how price discovery has been all but removed from gold and silver. Price discovery on a decentralized asset class that they did not create nor control is being a bit problematic for them.

[AndreaGail]

Bitcoin rises after report says early Facebook investor Peter Thiel is buying massive amounts

-Peter Thiel's Founders Fund has bought millions of dollars in bitcoin, The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday, citing sources familiar with the situation.
-Those holdings are worth hundreds of millions of dollars, the newspaper says. It wasn't clear whether Founders had sold any of its holdings, the report says.
-Bitcoin rises more than 11 percent to trade near $14,711, according to Coinbase.



https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/02/bitcoin-rises-after-report-says-early-facebook-investor-peter-thiel-is-buying-massive-amounts.html

[Norweger]

We've seen how price discovery has been all but removed from gold and silver. Price discovery on a decentralized asset class that they did not create nor control is being a bit problematic for them.

I would not conclude that they do not control bitcoin yet considering that we still don't know who number 1 is. What will happen when he reveals himself is the question and what type of character is he. Bitcoin only need to do a 5x from what i've read for him to become the worlds wealthiest man. What if it is a fullblown kike? That is something which may be very real.

[madfranks]

I would not conclude that they do not control bitcoin yet considering that we still don't know who number 1 is. What will happen when he reveals himself is the question and what type of character is he. Bitcoin only need to do a 5x from what i've read for him to become the worlds wealthiest man. What if it is a fullblown kike? That is something which may be very real.My personal opinion, I think he's either dead or he lost the wallet key. Satoshi's coins haven't moved since day 1; at this point I don't think they ever will.

A generation from now, this'll be the stuff of legends, a permanent record of bitcoins locked on the blockchain that belonged to the world's wealthiest man, with no ability for anyone to ever access them, but permanently available for all to see.

[Horn]

Satoshi's coins will be spread as if by lottery for the unwilled to become fully vested into Nothing.

Canadians themselves will be forced to convert thru FRN exchanges.

[madfranks]

Satoshi's coins will be spread as if by lottery for the unwilled to become fully vested into Nothing.

Canadians themselves will be forced to convert thru FRN exchanges.
I know you're joking but technically that can't happen. Nobody can access the coins.

[Horn]

I know you're joking but technically that can't happen. Nobody can access the coins.

Satoshi can access a spread as if by lottery to anyone he cares to or picks name out of a hat to.

You're technically inept at translation, technically.

Satoshi wants the world to own nothing.

Ps. Quit calling Satoshi a nobody and download your wallet today...

[madfranks]

Satoshi can access a spread as if by lottery to anyone he cares to or picks name out of a hat to.

You're technically inept at translation, technically.

Satoshi wants the world to own nothing.

Ps. Quit calling Satoshi a nobody and download your wallet today...Now I get it... you're Satoshi aren't you? Why didn't you tell us before? Also, when are going to spread that bitcoin wealth around?

[Horn]

Now I get it... you're Satoshi aren't you? Why didn't you tell us before? Also, when are going to spread that bitcoin wealth around?

Its the original intent of the retained sum from get go.

Total mass not retained.

A "promo", of Not wealth. < Truth

[PatColo]

'nother little BTC sale the past few hours, at least compared to its $19,343 high on 12/16. Bounced off 13,051 this morning.
https://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-price/

meanwhile ETH clinging near its 1,427 high of... yesterday 1/13!! :o https://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-price/

[PatColo]

surprised not much BTC price discussion here this week, after bouncing off $9,453 late Wed 1/17. From what I've seen, futures manipulation being blamed.

change time frame to 1w, 1m etc: https://www.coindesk.com/price/

$11,547 atm.

[Jewboo]

THIS (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/04/meltdown-spectre-worst-cpu-bugs-ever-found-affect-computers-intel-processors-security-flaw) could instantly destroy bitcoin digital wallets. Nobody seems to care...?

:(??

[PatColo]

THIS (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/04/meltdown-spectre-worst-cpu-bugs-ever-found-affect-computers-intel-processors-security-flaw) could instantly destroy bitcoin digital wallets. Nobody seems to care...?

:(??


I'm still not a bitcoin'er, just been watching from the sidelines. So how will a BTC wallet be "destroyed", any more than Au/Ag rising & falling will destroy anyone's stash? Just the USD value of their account will change, no?

Maybe certain futures accounts on the wrong side of the volatility, thanks to margin.

edit: Oh just noticed your clickable THIS (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/04/meltdown-spectre-worst-cpu-bugs-ever-found-affect-computers-intel-processors-security-flaw)... that's why I generally BOLD my links; hard to see otherwise! So (((spectre))) eh? Yeah, that's a thought! Whole (((banking industry))) would appear similarly vulnerable though. Israel's Operation Talpiot (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Operation+Talpiot&t=ffab&ia=web)... holding the IT world hostage. :(

[Ares]

THIS (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/04/meltdown-spectre-worst-cpu-bugs-ever-found-affect-computers-intel-processors-security-flaw) could instantly destroy bitcoin digital wallets. Nobody seems to care...?

:(??


It is conditional.. IF the CPU is instructed to monitor for the private key which is never loaded into memory, and only used during sending a transaction. If you have a full node wallet and you encrypt the wallet even the software doesn't have access to the private key and will prompted you to unlock the wallet before being able to access the private key to send your Bitcoin.

So yes it is a possibility, but is a conditional possibility and conditions would have to be in place in order to get the private key to steal your coins.

However if you use a Hardware wallet (Ledger, Trezor etc.) Then it's not possible as the private key doesn't exist anywhere except on the hardware wallet.

Here is the good news. Ledger’s devices are not affected by these attacks.

First of all, to exploit these flaws, the attacker has to be able to run arbitrary code. As long as you only use Ledger’s embedded apps (which is strongly recommended), your Nano S / Blue is not vulnerable to these kind of attacks.
Furthermore, BOLOS (Ledger’s secure OS) runs on Secure Chips and takes advantage of Hardware security features such as MPU to ensure memory isolation between OS and apps spaces. On general purpose CPUs, the performance is the main concerns, no specific hardware-based mechanism is provided to enforce isolation
Meltdown attack takes advantage of general purpose CPU which implement ‘out of order’ execution to improve performance. The Secure Core implemented in the Secure Element of Ledger Nano S does not embed such a feature. It’s not designed for performance but for security.


https://www.ledger.fr/2018/01/04/meltdown-spectre-attacks-intel-amd-arm-risk/

[PatColo]

https://www.coindesk.com/price/ the 24h graph isn't loading; I find that every now & then @ coindesk. But from the text data, volatility continues!

Today's Open$11,522.86
Today's High$11,868.72
Today's Low$10,266.90
Change$-975.82
Market Cap$0.177
Supply16,819,525

[EE_]

GAME'S UP? Panicky Bitcoin investors struggle to withdraw cash from money exchanges as they look to ‘safe’ gold investments amid fears of cryptocurrency collapse
The cryptocurrency's value has fallen by around 40 per cent to £8,000 in just one month
By Jay Akbar
22nd January 2018, 12:00 pmUpdated: 22nd January 2018, 5:03 pm

THERE are mounting fears that Bitcoin investors will struggle to get their cash out after the cryptocurrency's value fell 40 per cent in a single month.

Many are looking to put their money in gold instead, with some European gold traders reporting a "five fold increase" in demand amid fears Bitcoin could collapse entirely.

Bitcoin owners are flocking to invest in gold amid fears the cryptocurrency may collapseREUTERS

Bitcoin owners are flocking to invest in gold amid fears the cryptocurrency may collapse
But it could be bad news for investors tied up in Bitconnect who fear they will lose their money after the controversial trader announced it was shutting down.

It assured customers they would be able to withdraw at a "recent exchange rate" but "continuous cyber-attacks" have prevented them from doing so, Fortune reports.

Concerned investors have since taken to social media to complain they fear losing anything from a few thousand dollars to their entire "family savings".

Adding to fears, some panicked investors have reportedly been tricked into handing over the contents of their cryptocurrency wallets by scammers presenting themselves as Bitconnect "customer support".

Many bitcoin investors report having difficulty in withdrawing their money before the currency collapsesREUTERS

Many bitcoin investors report having difficulty in withdrawing their money before the currency collapses
Wall Street veteran Peter Boockvar has warned of an impending "epic crash" which could slash 90 per cent off Bitcoin, currently valued at around £8,300.

He told CNBC the cryptocurrency's value could fall to between $1,000 (£718) and $3,000 (£2,154) over the next year.

This uncertainty is driving Bitcoin owners to invest in the more reliable gold, according to Daniel Marburger, director of Coininvest.

He told the Times how he sold 30kg of gold worth around £1million on "one crazy day" - January 16.

CEO of Ripple, Brad Garlinghouse, explains how he sees the future for his cryptocurrency and its rival Bitcoin
Gold traders have been inundated with requests from people wanting to invest in the more reliable precious metal insteadALAMY

Gold traders have been inundated with requests from people wanting to invest in the more reliable precious metal instead
Marburger added: "It is an unprecedented time and shows the sway from bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies back to a solid, robust investment in these uncertain times."

Investors are believed to mostly be exchanging their Bitcoins for sovereign coins of gold Britannia, one ounce of which is worth around £,1000.

The largely untraceable Bitcoins are beneficial to criminals who can use them to buy drugs and weapons on online black markets on "The Dark Web".

They are less useful for everyday consumers who cannot buy goods or, say, invest in properties using the cryptocurrency.

Other gold merchants including Goldcore reported similar trends.

Its founder Mark O'Byrne said: "They [the bitcoin sellers] told us they were concerned that the massive price appreciation was unsustainable and they got nervous about it."

One in three British millennials will have invested in a cryptocurrency by 2020, according to the London Block Exchange.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5396239/bitcoin-price-investors-selling-gold-value-collapse/

[Ares]

GAME'S UP? Panicky Bitcoin investors struggle to withdraw cash from money exchanges as they look to ‘safe’ gold investments amid fears of cryptocurrency collapse
The cryptocurrency's value has fallen by around 40 per cent to £8,000 in just one month
By Jay Akbar
22nd January 2018, 12:00 pmUpdated: 22nd January 2018, 5:03 pm

THERE are mounting fears that Bitcoin investors will struggle to get their cash out after the cryptocurrency's value fell 40 per cent in a single month.

Many are looking to put their money in gold instead, with some European gold traders reporting a "five fold increase" in demand amid fears Bitcoin could collapse entirely.

Bitcoin owners are flocking to invest in gold amid fears the cryptocurrency may collapseREUTERS

Bitcoin owners are flocking to invest in gold amid fears the cryptocurrency may collapse
But it could be bad news for investors tied up in Bitconnect who fear they will lose their money after the controversial trader announced it was shutting down.

It assured customers they would be able to withdraw at a "recent exchange rate" but "continuous cyber-attacks" have prevented them from doing so, Fortune reports.

Concerned investors have since taken to social media to complain they fear losing anything from a few thousand dollars to their entire "family savings".

Adding to fears, some panicked investors have reportedly been tricked into handing over the contents of their cryptocurrency wallets by scammers presenting themselves as Bitconnect "customer support".

Many bitcoin investors report having difficulty in withdrawing their money before the currency collapsesREUTERS

Many bitcoin investors report having difficulty in withdrawing their money before the currency collapses
Wall Street veteran Peter Boockvar has warned of an impending "epic crash" which could slash 90 per cent off Bitcoin, currently valued at around £8,300.

He told CNBC the cryptocurrency's value could fall to between $1,000 (£718) and $3,000 (£2,154) over the next year.

This uncertainty is driving Bitcoin owners to invest in the more reliable gold, according to Daniel Marburger, director of Coininvest.

He told the Times how he sold 30kg of gold worth around £1million on "one crazy day" - January 16.

CEO of Ripple, Brad Garlinghouse, explains how he sees the future for his cryptocurrency and its rival Bitcoin
Gold traders have been inundated with requests from people wanting to invest in the more reliable precious metal insteadALAMY

Gold traders have been inundated with requests from people wanting to invest in the more reliable precious metal instead
Marburger added: "It is an unprecedented time and shows the sway from bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies back to a solid, robust investment in these uncertain times."

Investors are believed to mostly be exchanging their Bitcoins for sovereign coins of gold Britannia, one ounce of which is worth around £,1000.

The largely untraceable Bitcoins are beneficial to criminals who can use them to buy drugs and weapons on online black markets on "The Dark Web".

They are less useful for everyday consumers who cannot buy goods or, say, invest in properties using the cryptocurrency.

Other gold merchants including Goldcore reported similar trends.

Its founder Mark O'Byrne said: "They [the bitcoin sellers] told us they were concerned that the massive price appreciation was unsustainable and they got nervous about it."

One in three British millennials will have invested in a cryptocurrency by 2020, according to the London Block Exchange.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5396239/bitcoin-price-investors-selling-gold-value-collapse/

Everything that goes up, must come down eventually. :)

[Bilkymesk]

MadFrankLoydWright. LOL....

While I'm all for alternative means of free enterprise competitive currency, the reason I am is because the FRN is being MANIPULATED to the advantage of a small secret cabal of International Banksters. Crooks. Psychopaths.

But I'm sure as hell not going to change over to another currency that's already been shown to be MANIPULATED to the advantage of a small secret cabal of International Hacksters. And there's no telling how many other holes there are hiding in the wings.

I got out of the "free market" "cough" exactly because of this type of anonymous manipulation. The whole fucking market is nothing but a giant PUMP and DUMP.

Personally, I believe in a long term sustainable Perma-culture. A solid foundation. Stability. Integrity. An honest work ethic. A decent place to grow children into human beings.

Currently, bitcoin doesn't offer any of that. And till it does, it's just the same fucking shell game.

Personally, I think bitcoin has numerous benefits and advantages over using localized currency. Some people become Bitcoin billionaires because of their investment, they invest much in bitcoin mining. I am not sure if they use bitcoin cloud mining for their investment but personally, I tried and the calculator was really helpful.

[PatColo]

^ Bilky, U have a personal creator/owner/etc relationship with the link you dropped in your first GSUS post above?

I came here to note, BTC bounced off a $7876 low so far today (Sun). https://www.coindesk.com/price/

ETH $834 atm.

[gauri1]

Hello, Such a nice forum!!! I really appreciate. If you free then visit our link.
Thank you

[StreetsOfGold]

LCC is on a tear and it is FREE if you were SMART enough to have had LITECOIN before the fork

https://litecoinca.sh

9703

[EE_]

Why do they call it cash, when it's anything but cash? Shouldn't this and Bitcoin be called cashless?

[Horn]

Why do they call it cash, when it's anything but cash? Shouldn't this and Bitcoin be called cashless?

Cause its like you're a "stakeholder" though in this case there are No steaks.

[PatColo]

bitcoin back in a funk; bounced off $7,676.52 overnight. https://www.coindesk.com/price switch to 1 week & 1 & 3 month views. Not this low since early Feb.

[PatColo]

BTC bouncing around $6500 - 7500 range for past 10 days. https://www.coindesk.com/price

Sofia on Sage of Quay radio. She comments (http://aboutthesky.com/podcasts):

Folks, cryptocurrency is something to be pondered deeply before we all dive in. It is serving as the carrot to blockchain technology, which will change human relations and interactions in a profound way. Please listen:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HBAcg4tpYNo/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLChXMUgUvKlsPQYMrS9xsXg_T2mMg 1:20:35
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBAcg4tpYNo) Sage of Quay Radio - Sofia Smallstorm - Crypto, Blockchains and Inner Standing (March 2018) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBAcg4tpYNo)

2.4K views1 week ago

[EE_]

BTC bouncing around $6500 - 7500 range for past 10 days. https://www.coindesk.com/price

Sofia on Sage of Quay radio. She comments (http://aboutthesky.com/podcasts):

Folks, cryptocurrency is something to be pondered deeply before we all dive in. It is serving as the carrot to blockchain technology, which will change human relations and interactions in a profound way. Please listen:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HBAcg4tpYNo/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLChXMUgUvKlsPQYMrS9xsXg_T2mMg 1:20:35
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBAcg4tpYNo) Sage of Quay Radio - Sofia Smallstorm - Crypto, Blockchains and Inner Standing (March 2018) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBAcg4tpYNo)

2.4K views1 week ago

And you all stood in line for it

[PatColo]

And you all stood in line for it


WHO all?? :|~

Still not a crypto owner here. I figure I'll inevitably take a little pilot position... any day, or year now!!!

I won't say "we all..." but I know many of us here, like me, sat on our metals through Apr/May 2011, silver $49.xx... :D

[Horn]

There yah go, Pat

Buy some Bitcoin so that you Can't even sit on it forever.

I guess u could sit your grandkids on your knee and have them hold your usb stick.

Huh ??? !

[EE_]

WHO all?? :|~

Still not a crypto owner here. I figure I'll inevitably take a little pilot position... any day, or year now!!!

I won't say "we all..." but I know many of us here, like me, sat on our metals through Apr/May 2011, silver $49.xx... :D

Did you get chipped? (iPhone)

[PatColo]

Did you get chipped? (iPhone)

got then lost an android last year-- kept it in airplane mode in an EMF blocking pouch. When on the grid all unneeded access permissions denied. then back in the pouch:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_2_7/140-2628973-6189867?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=emf+blocker+for+cell+phone
^ recommend finding your phone carrier/pouch, then search up the maker's site and buy direct from them. Just use amzn for search-n-sort then kick em to the curb.

I had a blockitpocket.com (https://www.blockitpocket.com/products-cat.html)pouch, thumbs up.

Oh yeah, not sure about the other carriers, but I used Tmobile, paid cash for everything from initial sim card, to every month in one of their outlet stores; never needed an ID at any time. Fake "john sixpack" type name.

no mobile atm; can't promise I won't get another & "manage it" the same way though.:cool:

[Neuro]

Bitcoin is slowly coming out of its winter slumber it’s up again at $10,000. I think it’s getting ready for a new mania phase, but look into the other crypto’s as well, like Ethereum, Litecoin, and my personal favorite bitcoin cash. What is different this time vs 3-4 years ago is that the alts didn’t lose larger %-ages as the market went down, and while bitcoin has recovered around 50% since its low. The alts has gone up 100-200%. I think it is likely that bitcoin may be dethroned within a year or so. Good contestants are Eth and Bch

[StreetsOfGold]

other crypto’s as well, like Ethereum, Litecoin

Litecoin all the way - I sold silver to get some and have done very well (can always buy back the silver)

Cryptos are "baked into the cake" , they WILL take over and replace the fiat system, there is NO doubt
Those chips they have been putting into credit cards now for almost 2 years are needed to speak to the lightning network which is merging with the SWIFT processing system and the lighting network is for processing cvryptos, in particular, Litecoin

Others to consider, OMG, VERT, PPT, BCH and ETH

[PatColo]

BTC low $7,272 so far this morning, flirting with its < $7K lows for this year. https://www.coindesk.com/price/

[StreetsOfGold]

Crypto NEWS is BETTER now than ever.
We went from Bitcoin is a scam, Jamie Dimon (a few months ago) to him HIRING a guy to HEAD UP his CRYPTO department thhis week.
The average market cap this time last year was around 15 billion, now, even though it's down significantly, is still over 300 billion and usually around 400 billion

Nothing but GOOD news for Cryptos

[Horn]

Neuro said it were testing 10k on May 5th, then Pat Colo said testing lows of 7k on May 24th.

How can anyone take Bitcoin seriously?

[madfranks]

Neuro said it were testing 10k on May 5th, then Pat Colo said testing lows of 7k on May 24th.

How can anyone take Bitcoin seriously?When you stick a quarter in a slot machine, are you taking it seriously that you're going to win the jackpot? No, it's a gamble plain and simple. If you're lucky, you might make some money, but if you're not, you lose.

[Horn]

When you stick a quarter in a slot machine, are you taking it seriously that you're going to win the jackpot? No, it's a gamble plain and simple. If you're lucky, you might make some money, but if you're not, you lose.

Its not gambling, if its not serious. All that's wrong with the world, not serious, no risk, no reward.

Let's stripmine an Ancient Indian burial site for tea, then Short silver and oil..

[madfranks]

Then take it seriously as a gamble. It's not a serious money (yet) for this exact reason.

[Horn]

Then take it seriously as a gamble.

In this story, am I jesus immediately before the crucifixion or just a confused apostle?

[Horn]

http://i.imgur.com/p0vbVcg.jpg

Franks goes to vegas

[madfranks]

http://i.imgur.com/p0vbVcg.jpg

Franks goes to vegas

And so far I'm winning. (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞

[Horn]

they called him fast finga franky, his dime slot form was flawless.

[Dachsie]

Here is quote from January 2018 interview by E. Michael Jones...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Z3_WyPIe4 interview was in January of 2018
21:31 to 24:29


“Cryptocurrency is a contradiction in terms.

Currency means this can be used for all debts, public and private.

Okay, this piece of paper, whatever it is, this can be used, while

Cryptocurrency, if its not public, in other words, if its not a coin in some sense, which means a coin is a piece of metal which has the emperor or the kind or the sovereign stamped on it, the image of the sovereign, which means that the state backs up this currency.

Well, obviously crypto currencies are not backed by the state so therefore they are not currencies.

So, what is it? What is BitCoin?

BitCoin is, well, its like a tulip bulb, actually.

Its like gold.

It’s obvious it’s something that has value because people buy it. And the more people that buy it, the more its value increases.

And if people really get behind it, what you’re seeing is what I think we saw, at least in the last couple of weeks, a bubble.

I think we had the BitCoin bubble. And now, what you see now, you saw in it a few weeks ago. There was an article about the Winklevost twins becoming BitCoin billionaires.

This is known as the “suckers market”.

When you see article like this, usually they’re on the cover of NewsWeek, like these ten people became millionaires by selling real estate. What they’re really saying is ‘the big players want to get out of the real estate market, and at this point, the big players want to get out of the BitCoin market but they can’t get out unless somebody buys their BitCoin. So here’s a way for you to buy their BitCoin so they’re not going to have to dump a billion dollars’ worth of merchandise on the market and crash the price.

So I think BitCoin is – it’s like gold.

It’s not a currency.

It is not money.

It cannot be used as money but it can be a store of value as long as people keep bidding up the price.

As soon as that stops, you’re left with nothing.

You’re left with a tulip bulb.

That was the first bubble – the Tulip Mania – in Holland. "

[madfranks]

People are still comparing bitcoin to tulip bulbs? That point has been discussed and debunked like thousands of times already.

[Dachsie]

So point me to a debunking of that on this forum, please. Seems like a valid point to me.

It works just like other volatile equities markets and one can lose whatever money invested.

[Neuro]

You can eat tulip bulbs, but you cant divide them in Satoshis and keep their value...

[PatColo]

Noticed yest BTC had dumped < $7K over the weekend.

Then today (Tue) a stab down to $6530, breaking former support there in Feb & again in Apr.

I don't follow BTC news; & never pulled the trigger on buying. What are the junkees attributing this drop to?! https://www.coindesk.com/price/

[StreetsOfGold]

What are the junkees attributing this drop to?!

The consensus is price manipulation, (like all markets) since cryptos are NOT going away.
Bring it WAY down and then buy it up

[PatColo]

^ AFAIK there's not really a physical futures market for BTC, where big leverage can be used, & buy/sell limit orders, shorting etc; so this is just straight waves of fully funded buying/selling?

I've heard of these "Crypto mining" blackbox computers; know almost nothing about them.


Noticed yest BTC had dumped < $7K over the weekend.

Then today (Tue) a stab down to $6530, breaking former support there in Feb & again in Apr.

I don't follow BTC news; & never pulled the trigger on buying. What are the junkees attributing this drop to?! https://www.coindesk.com/price/

made another stab downward overnight; bounced off $6384 low, still searching for a new bottom.

[PatColo]

BTC $7,758 atm; pulled out of its sub-7K funk, with sub-6K dips, of the past ~6 weeks. https://www.coindesk.com/price

ETH $456

[StreetsOfGold]

The "derivative" for Bitcoin (AKA an ETF) is coming and will most likely be approved this year

[Neuro]

The "derivative" for Bitcoin (AKA an ETF) is coming and will most likely be approved this year

There are several already including ETF’s...

[PatColo]

BTC $7,758 atm; pulled out of its sub-7K funk, with sub-6K dips, of the past ~6 weeks. https://www.coindesk.com/price

ETH $456

more big ups since that ^ Mon 7/23 post above,

btc (high)
$8,479.33

eth (high)
$482.98

[PatColo]

$6133 low today https://www.coindesk.com/price/ << click those different time buttons above the chart to see the ride

[madfranks]

I think the ultimate low will be between $2-4k, and that it'll take another 12-18 months to get there. But it'll consolidate and prepare for another takeoff, next time up to $50k or so.

[StreetsOfGold]

I think the ultimate low will be between $2-4k, and that it'll take another 12-18 months to get there. But it'll consolidate and prepare for another takeoff, next time up to $50k or so.


My Brother is a very successful financial advisor and estate planner, one of his (expensive) go to guys is Porter Stansberry (Jew) and is extremely conservative, just recently, as in last week he is NOW pro crypto and is giving it a BUY signal. Take that for what's it's worth.

[singular_me]

... here we go AGAIN
=============
Bitcoin Price Manipulated by Cryptocurrency Trading Bots: WSJ
..... Stefan Qin, the managing partner at cryptocurrency hedge fund Virgil Capital, uses its own bots to battle “enemy” bots on dozens of cryptocurrency exchanges worldwide. His company has built error handing functions to identify activities that are potentially illegal, referencing the crypto sector as the “Wild West of Crypto.”......... Manipulation’ Has Defenders... Some bitcoin supporters who oppose to cryptocurrency regulation don’t consider market manipulation as wrong and openly support it....... He told the WSJ that he thinks it is pointless to outlaw manipulating digital currencies. He said it would be better to provide sophisticated manipulation tools to small traders as a way to level the playing field. If everyone manipulates, no one manipulates, he said... FULL ARTICLE: https://www-ccn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.ccn.com/bitcoin-price-manipulated-by-cryptocurrency-trading-bots-wsj/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co m&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ccn.com%2Fbitcoin-price-manipulated-by-cryptocurrency-trading-bots-wsj%2F

'Market manipulation 101': 'Wolf of Wall Street'-style 'pump and dump' scams plague cryptocurrency markets. Nov. 14, 2017
https://www.businessinsider.com/ico-cryptocurrency-pump-and-dump-telegram-2017-11?r=UK&IR=T

[singular_me]

The meritocrats have comprehended the nature of reality since the dawn of times (and sorry it was not discovered by the bronze age populations but way before them), and that to interfere with people's unpredictable perceptions, money is the best tool ever to herd and control behaviors. From there, it is easy to conceive that money was always meant to enslave a clueless majority.

===============


Bitcoin Price Manipulated by Cryptocurrency Trading Bots: WSJ
..... Stefan Qin, the managing partner at cryptocurrency hedge fund Virgil Capital, uses its own bots to battle “enemy” bots on dozens of cryptocurrency exchanges worldwide. His company has built error handing functions to identify activities that are potentially illegal, referencing the crypto sector as the “Wild West of Crypto.”......... Manipulation’ Has Defenders... Some bitcoin supporters who oppose to cryptocurrency regulation don’t consider market manipulation as wrong and openly support it....... He told the WSJ that he thinks it is pointless to outlaw manipulating digital currencies. He said it would be better to provide sophisticated manipulation tools to small traders as a way to level the playing field. If everyone manipulates, no one manipulates, he said... FULL ARTICLE: https://www-ccn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.ccn.com/bitcoin-price-manipulated-by-cryptocurrency-trading-bots-wsj/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co m&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ccn.com%2Fbitcoin-price-manipulated-by-cryptocurrency-trading-bots-wsj%2F

'Market manipulation 101': 'Wolf of Wall Street'-style 'pump and dump' scams plague cryptocurrency markets. Nov. 14, 2017
https://www.businessinsider.com/ico-cryptocurrency-pump-and-dump-telegram-2017-11?r=UK&IR=

[mamboni]

BTC like all cryptocurrencies is a token, an abstract token representing another abstraction, digital currency. It has utility for it's portability. But anyone who thinks it is private wealth is fooling himself. Blockchain guarantees integrity and it also guarantees an audit trail. Cyrptocurrency has zero intrinsic value. Its currency value represents pure speculation. Also, while the number of BTC is limited by an algorithm, there is no limit to how many cryptocurrencies can be created (i.e. BTC-blue BTC-yellow BTC-green etc). IMHO, the cryptocurrency is a psyop designed to provide an unlimited liquidity dry-well and a killing field for harvesting speculators. I don't own cryptocurrency because I don't speculate. And I don't own stocks and bonds because all markets are captive to the manipulations of central bankers, large institutions and computer trading programs. I save my wealth in physical metal because I can hold it in my hand, it is fungible, convertable and it's fundamentals protect my wealth from confiscation through inflation and devaluation and bank bail-ins. I don't begrudge those who make money in cryptocurrency or profit from it's portability. But understand that you are speculating with a virtual token that can vanish in a nanoseconds. I don't need the stress and worry and readily forgo the potential profits [and losses].

[singular_me]

the usual scenario now... that is it, they got what ((they)) wanted, fear and perceptions are in charge now... as it usually is the case with any currencies... welcome to reality

That is why we need a world without money, it is impossible to protect one self, unless one is part of the top 1%, because they are the ones deciding of what goes boom and bust
--------------------
Oct 9, 2018
IMF Issues Stark Warning Over Bitcoin And Crypto 'Rapid' Growth
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2018/10/09/imf-issues-stark-warning-over-bitcoin-and-crypto-rapid-growth/#1b66e53e3544

[mamboni]

My Brother is a very successful financial advisor and estate planner, one of his (expensive) go to guys is Porter Stansberry (Jew) and is extremely conservative, just recently, as in last week he is NOW pro crypto and is giving it a BUY signal. Take that for what's it's worth.

Perhaps caution and suspicion are advisable when a (((financial advisor))) suddenly recommends cryptocurrency as investment. To wit: there is an enormous kosher fly in the crypto ointment - income taxes. Fast forward to 30:40 in the video wherein Schiff shares a true story involving a crypto investor that it behooves one to hear:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxCDCyo7Lpc

[StreetsOfGold]

Perhaps caution and suspicion are advisable when a (((financial advisor))) suddenly recommends cryptocurrency as investment. To wit: there is an enormous kosher fly in the crypto ointment - income taxes. Fast forward to 30:40 in the video wherein Schiff shares a true story involving a crypto investor that it behooves one to hear:

Gold salesman Schiff is one of the most outspoken Anti Crytpo voices out there so. Yet, he just can't help but not talk about it.
This (customized) saying comes to mind when I think of Schiff and crypto together


"First he ignored it, then he laughed it, now he ridicules it, then it will win."

This "kid" (his example) might be able to get back into crypto and make all the "owed" taxes back in a month, but he never mentioned that possibility but only focused on how LONG he would have to work a TRADITIONAL "job" to pay it back.
He said Bitcoin is worth less than it was a year ago but it's worth WAY more than 2, 3, 4, etc years ago but in typical Peter Schiff fashion he conveniently forgot to mention this and only keeps you focused on the negatives instead of the myriad of positives.

[Horn]

but in typical Peter Schiff fashion he conveniently forgot to mention this and only keeps you focused on the negatives instead of the myriad of positives

Any kid going from 5k to a million sounds pretty positive.

[mamboni]

Any kid going from 5k to a million sounds pretty positive.

Seems to be the one consistent winner is the IRS.

[PatColo]

C R A S H :o

$3,782 atm https://www.coindesk.com/price/bitcoin

select 1week, & 1month (above chart). Really started falling out of bed 11/13, 11 days ago.

[madfranks]

I think the ultimate low will be between $2-4k, and that it'll take another 12-18 months to get there. But it'll consolidate and prepare for another takeoff, next time up to $50k or so.

So far so good, I’m waiting for a bit more dip before I buy back in. The next run up will blow everything before it away!

[PatColo]

C R A S H :o

$3,782 atm https://www.coindesk.com/price/bitcoin

select 1week, & 1month (above chart). Really started falling out of bed 11/13, 11 days ago.


ditto above ^ but we're blazing a new 2018 low today; 24-hour low atm: $3,214.83

patting self on back for not taking a pilot position, as tempted, up in the $6-7K area where BTC hovered for months. :)


twatter thread by a popular Qanon preacherman; 150+ comments already in 40 minutes:
https://twitter.com/StormIsUponUs/status/1071087269241487360

"I wish Q would tell us whether to sell or hold our bitcoin."

[PatColo]

ditto above ^ but we're blazing a new 2018 low today; 24-hour low atm: $3,214.83

patting self on back for not taking a pilot position, as tempted, up in the $6-7K area where BTC hovered for months. :)


twatter thread by a popular Qanon preacherman; 150+ comments already in 40 minutes:
https://twitter.com/StormIsUponUs/status/1071087269241487360

"I wish Q would tell us whether to sell or hold our bitcoin."


BTC cutting new 2018 lows again today; 24-hour low $3,122.
https://www.coindesk.com/price/bitcoin

another BTC thread from @StormIsUponUs, 62+ comments growing.
https://twitter.com/StormIsUponUs/status/1074038334014386176




Joe M‏ @StormIsUponUs (https://twitter.com/StormIsUponUs)
I have no idea what $btc (https://twitter.com/search?q=%24btc&src=ctag) will do. Before I knew globalists were being torn down, I thought it was a safe haven. Now with #PatriotsInControl (https://twitter.com/hashtag/PatriotsInControl?src=hash), and the coming gold standard, I'm not sure if its needed, or if it will spike during the transition. NOBODY KNOWS even if they say they do.
12:27 PM - 15 Dec 2018




126 Retweets


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[PatColo]

Sean/SGT Report interviews this crypto dood "DavinciJ"; new to me but apparently he's been jootubing https://www.youtube.com/user/davincij15/videos since ~2010 re BTC; first buys were <$1; multi-millionaire now. Recommended taking some profits last Dec '17, when he claims he grabbed ~half his capital. Now he's hoping to accumulate <$3K.

Re the title, I've long since tired of the "USD collapse! silver to da moon!" predictions. But listening now, & that noise is a small part of the discussion,

45m:
BITCOIN MILLIONAIRE PREDICTS SILVER WILL BE WORTH MORE THAN GOLD! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8MGirraAUI)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8MGirraAUI

[RatHoler]

^
Are there any guests that SGT or Greg Hunter have interviewed that have been correct about precious metals, specifically silver?

Listen to none of them. I'm tired of hearing about the COMEX default, backwardation, gold/silver ratio, solar panels blah blah blah. Many of us here (including myself) fell for the bullshit story that silver was going to triple digits.

There is a guy that has been more correct than any of the YouTube stars and he is the most hated analyst in the space. Check out his presentation from a few weeks ago. He thinks gold could go to $2000-$2200 in 5-7 years. He mentions silver at only $25-$30 in that time frame. I bet Christian's predictions will be much closer to reality than any of the silver clowns on SGT or USA Watchdog. Would you rather listen to an (((insider))) or douchebags like Morgan, Holter, Martenson, Kirby, and countless others?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5a8gTVdKDs&list=LLv5idR45V2Fb8kRZElXlnNQ&index=2&t=22s

[PatColo]

I'm tired of hearing about the COMEX default, backwardation, gold/silver ratio, solar panels blah blah blah. Many of us here (including myself) fell for the bullshit story that silver was going to triple digits.

ur forgetting the COT report/graph; tea-leaves suggest next move = POW! TO DA MOON!! any second now! :D


https://i1.wp.com/dollarcollapse.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Silver-COT-chart-July-14-2017.jpg?ssl=1

[GoSi93]

Spreadsheet that helps you track your net gain for each transaction and your total net gain. It also keeps track of how much you had paid for each bitcoin: https://u.to/HSseFQ

[Neuro]

^
Are there any guests that SGT or Greg Hunter have interviewed that have been correct about precious metals, specifically silver?

Listen to none of them. I'm tired of hearing about the COMEX default, backwardation, gold/silver ratio, solar panels blah blah blah. Many of us here (including myself) fell for the bullshit story that silver was going to triple digits.

There is a guy that has been more correct than any of the YouTube stars and he is the most hated analyst in the space. Check out his presentation from a few weeks ago. He thinks gold could go to $2000-$2200 in 5-7 years. He mentions silver at only $25-$30 in that time frame. I bet Christian's predictions will be much closer to reality than any of the silver clowns on SGT or USA Watchdog. Would you rather listen to an (((insider))) or douchebags like Morgan, Holter, Martenson, Kirby, and countless others?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5a8gTVdKDs&list=LLv5idR45V2Fb8kRZElXlnNQ&index=2&t=22s

But wilver will go to da moooon! It’s just in its hundred year dozy. It tends to do that. But when it wakes up! Silver bulls are almost never correct, but when they are... DANG!!!

[StreetsOfGold]

how much you had paid for each bitcoin

99+% of everyone in the world has zero or LESS than 1 Bitcoin so I find this particular statement rather amusing as who is needing to find out how much you paid for EACH Bitcoin (as if you have so many you need to keep track of THEM)

LOL

[PatColo]

Snowden: ‘The Most Important Thing Bitcoin Is Missing Right Now Is Privacy’ (https://www.coindesk.com/snowden-the-most-important-thing-bitcoin-is-missing-right-now-is-privacy)

Jun 27, 2019 at 14:00 UTC
Updated Jun 27, 2019 at 14:25 UTC

Bitcoin’s biggest flaw is its lack of privacy, said Edward Snowden at the Bitcoin 2019 conference.


The cybersecurity expert noted the importance of privacy as a source of liberty.

“The lack of privacy is an existential threat to bitcoin. Is the only protection users have from political change,” Snowden said.

Snowden also stated that he was a bitcoin supporter and even used an encrypted service that he paid for with bitcoins in order to communicate with journalists in 2013.

Threats to and From Exchanges

Talking about his experience being pursued by the United States government for sharing NSA data, Snowden pointed out the unrealistic expectations from regulators who want to be in control of cryptocurrencies.

Going in-depth about the regulations from banks and governments, Snowden also exposed the necessity for exchanges to defend their users’ privacy. He fears that if one of the exchanges gave up information, soon all of them would follow.

“If you actually go into the terms of big exchanges like Coinbase, they only want to cover themselves. They expose you, they close your account and keep your funds,” Snowden said.

He also disliked the development of financial cryptocurrency services, claiming that many of them are starting to look too much like banks.
“Something unforgivable is that you guys keep developing services trying to be banks, and the world doesn’t need more banks,” he said.

Leave No Trace

Snowden also talked about the Shadow Brokers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadow_Brokers), a group of hackers that auctioned NSA information in exchange for bitcoin in 2016.

He noted that the hacking case was the starting point of a governmental war on cryptocurrencies. In short, he said, regulation doesn’t work unless it becomes overly intrusive.

“If tracking bitcoin was possible then the NSA would have caught them,” he said. He said Satoshi Nakamoto was in the same position: he could navigate the system and leave no trace.

“If you know how the system works, you can still have privacy,” he said.

Edward Snowden speaks at Bitcoin 2019 via video link, photo by Diana Aguilar

https://www.coindesk.com/snowden-the-most-important-thing-bitcoin-is-missing-right-now-is-privacy

[monty]

You bitcoin/block chain enthusiasts ight be interested in reading this legislation report.

https://twitter.com/NaegeleLAW/status/1149679904717336578?s=09


The final version of the #Liechtenstein #BlockchainAct, along with the translated Government consultation report, is now available in English. Visit our blog to read more at https://t.co/yX42EccMV6

The direct link to the translation can be found here: https://t.co/q6ji46Ix8o https://t.co/8HJoOFqXzu

[PatColo]

BTC's taken a nice stinky dump beginning Tue; so-far low today = a bounce off $7,757
https://www.coindesk.com/price/bitcoin


this article pub'd Tue 9/24, despite russia-insider.com's usual misleading as if it's fresh:


The Empire Strikes Back: Bitcoin Crashes, Dems Threaten Impeachment, Banks Gorge on Fed Cash
(https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/empire-strikes-back-bitcoin-crashes-dems-threaten-impeachment-banks-gorge-fed-cash/ri27764)
Tom Luongo (https://russia-insider.com/en/tom-luongo) 3 hours ago | 1100 words

[StreetsOfGold]

There was a drop in the Hash-rate of BTC by 40%.
It's back after a day and higher than ever and no one knows why.....yet.
The price, however has not gone back up as of this post.
This, however shows the weakness of the BTC network (POW) and it's reliance on hash-rates to keep the network going.

Thus enters Ripple's XRP, (POS) the greatest digital asset ever created and the coin of the NWO. Never subject to these kinds of issues!

[PatColo]

There was a drop in the Hash-rate of BTC by 40%.
It's back after a day and higher than ever and no one knows why.....yet.
The price, however has not gone back up as of this post.
This, however shows the weakness of the BTC network (POW) and it's reliance on hash-rates to keep the network going.

Thus enters Ripple's XRP, (POS) the greatest digital asset ever created and the coin of the NWO. Never subject to these kinds of issues!


looked that shite up, https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com/mining/hash-rate/ clear as mud right? I guess important if ur a miner...

this was interesting,




Bitcoin Mining Farms Are Flourishing on the Ruins of Soviet Industry in Siberia (https://russia-insider.com/en/bitcoin-mining-farms-are-flourishing-ruins-soviet-industry-siberia/ri27584)

... Soviet-era factories are enjoying a second life as cryptocurrency mining facilities. Siberia’s big hydropower plants (another ... Siberia is now fueling another energy-hungry industry: bitcoin mining. Several large mining farms have set up shop ...
Anna Baydakova (https://russia-insider.com/en/authors/anna-baydakova) 08.09.2019

[PatColo]

A snip from this Nov '18 article by Allison Weir (IfAmericansKnew.org)

Thanks to Government Inaction, Israel Has Become a Haven for International Scammers and Fraud (https://www.mintpressnews.com/thanks-to-government-inaction-israel-has-become-a-haven-for-international-scammers-and-fraud/251883/)

One analysis shows that one swindle alone has brought in over a billion dollars and employs 5,000 people. Another scam is predicted to be “the next major driver of the Israeli economy.”


by Alison Weir (https://www.mintpressnews.com/author/alison-weir/)

[...]



Bitcoin: “The Next Big thing”

A June 2018 TOI (https://www.timesofisrael.com/cryptocurrency-related-crime-will-surpass-all-other-cyberattacks-in-2018-expert/) article reports that experts have been touting cryptocurrency and blockchain as “the next major driver of the Israeli economy.”

This would be a highly questionable driver. As TOI reports, “It is unclear how much of the activity in this new high-tech field is legitimate, how much is mere hype, and how much is outright fraud perpetrated by malevolent actors, including transnational criminal organizations.”

In December, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency (JTA) published an article announcing: “Bitcoin Fraud Could Be the Next Big Thing for Swindlers in Israel (https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Bitcoin-fraud-could-be-the-next-big-thing-for-swindlers-in-Israel-519755).” The article, published in Israel’s Jerusalem Post, reported: “According to fraud experts, Israel is shaping up to be a hub for cryptocurrency swindling.”

“Fraudsters,” JTA said, “have begun to take advantage of a cryptocurrency bonanza with a variety (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/feds-shut-down-allegedly-fraudulent-cryptocurrency-offering/)of nefarious (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/12/12/us-regulator-warns-fraud-manipulation-amid-cryptocurrency-craze/) schemes (https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/common-cryptocurrency-scams/).”

A former IRS special agent who focused on international fraud predicts that this will mushroom and that Israeli binary options swindlers will spearhead a “massive cryptocurrency fraud.”

An Israeli expert who helps victims of financial scams says: “More or less every binary options company we know of now has a cryptocurrency platform as well. I’m already getting calls from victims, but most people have yet to even realize they’ve been defrauded.”

An Israeli analyst on threat intelligence reports that “not a day goes by without our hearing about a new ICO scam or mining attack.” On November 8th, [I]Ha’aretz (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/explained-the-bitcoin-scam-in-israeli-banks-payment-apps-1.6635982)reported: “Despite complaints to the authorities, users haven’t been warned about cybercriminals who swindle sellers of bitcoin using popular payment apps.”

According to Tel Aviv University Economics professor Neil Gandal, “It’s possible for a small number of actors to manipulate things,” TOI reports. Gandel says that Bitcoin’s first major price spike was likely caused by a single person, and a recent University of Texas paper (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/technology/bitcoin-price-manipulation.html) found that Bitcoin’s more recent price spike (http://fortune.com/2017/12/17/bitcoin-record-high-short-of-20000/) was also caused by price manipulation.

TOI reports: “Thousands of Israeli binary options operatives have been looking for new work, and the cryptocurrency field, with its lack of regulation, potential for easy money and libertarian ethos, is a magnet for such individuals.”

According to TOI, “Experts estimate that there are more than 100 fraudulent forex, CFDs, cryptocurrency, insurance, locksmith and Green Card lottery boiler rooms in the country.”

There have been massive demonstrations in Israel against corruption at high levels of government, and two police probes have targeted Prime Minister Netanyahu. A reformer warned (https://www.jta.org/2017/12/21/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/bitcoin-fraud-could-be-the-next-big-thing-for-swindlers-in-israel) of “a foul tsunami rising up in an ocean of corruption that threatens to drown the state of Israel. This is organized crime; crime families and Israeli mafia who are gaining control of local government and from there gradually taking over the central government and the nerve centers of Israeli society.”

In December, the Israeli legislature proposed regulation to ban (https://seekingalpha.com/news/3319979-israel-latest-crack-bitcoin) companies trading in bitcoin from operating on the Tel Aviv stock exchange, suggesting that Israeli citizens will eventually be protected from the scam, as they were from binary options swindlers.

However, It is not known when or if Israel will take action against Israeli cryptocurrency scams that target people in other countries.

For now, events create an impression that the Israeli government is tolerating, and thus perhaps even tacitly encouraging, financial swindles that originate within its borders and devastate individual savings and lives around the world.

The fact that the U.S. government gives Israel over $10 million per day (https://ifamericaknew.org/stat/usaid.html), and that this is about to go even higher (https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-gets-far-more-than-38-billion-under-the-new-deal/), doesn’t seem to protect Americans from being targeted by Israeli financial rackets.

For how much longer?



https://www.mintpressnews.com/thanks-to-government-inaction-israel-has-become-a-haven-for-international-scammers-and-fraud/251883/

[PatColo]

BTC technical breakdown today; bounced off $6,920 so far

[Spun Gold]

Down Baba Down... ready to buy at the low!! hehehe
My first bitcoin cost me $4.00 dollars

[Neuro]

Down Baba Down... ready to buy at the low!! hehehe
My first bitcoin cost me $4.00 dollars

Good price! What’s your buy in now?

[PatColo]

TRUNews Doc & Ed @ some crypto conference, 55m:

Monetary Mayhem: Crypto Revolution vs. Bankrupt Banksters (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckjRoZRLz8o)
4.3K views
4 hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckjRoZRLz8o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckjRoZRLz8o

[Horn]

Bitcoin looks alot like a soybean chart.

[BrewTech]

Bitcoin looks alot like a soybean chart.


What does that mean?

[PatColo]

This is most interesting - supposedly 'hackers' cracked not just one billionaire's blue-checkmark twatter acct, but FOUR, & did this simultaneous "free money!" scam with all 4. Had to be some kind of twatter insider, or NSA/whatever... not some incel kid(s)

screencaps of the BTC-hacker/scammers' tweets inside -- begs question re BTC's true anonymity?
https://twitter.com/morphonios/status/1283514099750625285



Jake Morphonios (https://twitter.com/morphonios)
@morphonios
Hackers just took control of the Twitter accounts of Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos (& Apple), Kanye West and Mike Bloomberg. Shows you how even the world's richest & most powerful people are just as vulnerable as anyone else. It's like an episode of Mr. Robot. #Hacked (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hacked?src=hashtag_click)

[Dachsie]

" Shows you how even the world's richest & most powerful people are just as vulnerable as anyone else. It's like an episode of Mr. Robot."

I find that remark by JM rather ridiculous as that is NOT what this shows us.

_______________

"did this simultaneous "free money!" scam"

There is the small possibility that that scam that appears to involve BTC was a real effort to extract money, possibly with a veiled extortion effort to maybe threaten to expose/publicize the Direct Messages of those hacked unless the BitCoin is paid. A hacker would have access to those via a hack. There is no indication BitCoin was compromised and likely the hacker knew the BitCoin thing would not be fallen for.

But even that sounds a little too simplistic. This involves Deep State players playing Deep State games with each other and to communicate some psyop operation on the public to make the public believe something.

No part of it is to be taken at face value.

Maybe there is a possibility that the "white hats" were sending a warning or threat message to the "black hats" to let them know there is a powerful entity that access to all of their accounts online and that they are about to be taken down by the "white hats." But many of us are desensitized to Q hopium kind of games. I really do not see much anymore that there are good guys and bad guys as they all appear to be on one big evil team, but I guess there is a possibility.

[PatColo]

^ just watched flash by on FAUX News, hacker/scammers quickly racked up $120K in BTC. Should be EZ to search up articles if ur curious.

having never made good on my threats to open a crypto account, I'm not really clear on how someone behind this scam quickly/anonymously/un-traceably grabs their pillaged booty in cash/gold/whatever, & disappears?? :(??

[monty]

https://medium.com/@bradmillscan/dr-edwin-vieira-2020-interview-with-a-millennial-bitcoin-investor-on-gold-monetary-history-6afcfac4b7adA Canadian bitcoin “stacker” interviews Dr. Edwin Vieira Jr. to get Vieira’s thoughts on what the future holds regarding currencies.

Dr Edwin Vieira 2020 Interview with a Millennial Bitcoin Investor on Gold & Monetary History (https://medium.com/@bradmillscan/dr-edwin-vieira-2020-interview-with-a-millennial-bitcoin-investor-on-gold-monetary-history-6afcfac4b7ad)

Brad Mills (http://gold-silver.us/forum/safari-reader://medium.com/@bradmillscan?source=post_page-----6afcfac4b7ad----------------------)
Dr Edwin Vieira 2020 Interview with a Millennial Bitcoin Investor on Gold & Monetary History
Dr Edwin Vieira is one of the world’s pre-eminent domain experts on gold & silver as constitutional money, as well as a monetary historian.



http://youtu.be/dKIuhUCFBXA


He wrote the seminal work “Pieces of Eight” which is a 1700 page tome on the subject that has become somewhat of a rare collectors item.
https://www.amazon.com/Pieces-Eight-Disabilities-Constitution-Foundation/dp/0967175917


He’s a constitutional attorney who has taken multiple cases to the supreme court.


I’m a regular guy, not a lawyer or a monetary expert…just a millennial entrepreneur who found Bitcoin as a way to opt out of a corrupt fiat money system.


I’ve been on a never-ending journey to discover the truth about money & banking as well as try to question the narratives of the gold experts, Austrians & anarchocapitalists to figure out if what they say is really true.


I’ve been a fan of Trace Mayer since 2011, Trace often credits Dr Vieira’s book Pieces of Eight for sending him down the hard money rabbit hole — so I had to talk to Dr Vieira.


To be honest I chickened out of this interview twice, but I’m glad we finally recorded it.


For context, I’m Canadian. I was an avid fan of Ron Paul and supported him during his presidential campaign in 2008 and 2012. Because the US Dollar is the world’s reserve currency, what happens to the USD affects everyone, so you’ll find a lot of Canucks follow US politics & finance more than our own.


In 2008 I learned what a scam money really was, and in 2011 when I saw Bitcoin, it instantly made sense to me.
I got into Bitcoin early because of people like Trace, and through following Ron Paul I learned the basics of Austrian economics vs Keynesianism, gold as money & the value of sound money vs fiat money.


I held Bitcoin from $10 all the way to $10,000 and I still hold Bitcoin. I’m one of those people that think Bitcoin & Gold will be the net beneficiaries of the money printing we are seeing now.


Since I’m writing a book on Bitcoin, I really wanted to speak with Dr Vieira to ask him some specific questions that I wasn’t able to find watching his previous interviews from 6–10 years ago.




How does gold fit in a world where there are no gold backed currencies anymore?
How does sound money work with modern monetary theory?
Is sound money & getting off of fractional reserve banking really the answer in a world with deflationary effects of technology causing large swaths of the population to have their jobs automated away?
How does Dr Vieira see this playing out over the next 5–10 years with his knowledge of previous cycles in monetary history?

One of the chapters in my book is a primer on fiat money, gold & monetary history, and this interview was very helpful in helping me think through some philosophical issues I was having defending the idea of an Austrian money standard from progressives & left leaning folks advocating things like the green new deal.


My show is aimed at being a non-technical informational podcast for millennials & their boomer parents (who hold 60% of the world’s wealth) learning about the follies of fiat money & why they should diversify into Bitcoin and gold to store their wealth.


I felt it was a privilege to expose people my age and socioeconomic status to Dr Edwin Vieira’s viewpoints. His knowledge is almost like a long lost secret.


As I saw the bank & corporate bailouts in 2008/2009, lots of QE (printing trillions of dollars from nothing), bank reserve requirements disappearing & the historic printing in 2020, I started leaning more towards the viewpoints of Bernie Sanders & the progressive left.


I started to lose the fervour I once had for Austrian economics & Libertarianism… we have not lived in a capitalist system for some time, but a corporatist system … the monetary system currently feels more like a ponzi scheme for the 0.1% rather than benefiting the silent majority.


A lot of people my age and socieconomic status don’t really question the system we live in, and many have become accustomed to the way things are with money … we don’t have Austrian policies but we also don’t live in a true Keynesian system either.


I wonder sometimes about nuances in the views of Austrians, when it comes to monetary policy & the way things have gone since the great financial crisis. This is the greatest ponzi in history and maybe they can keep it going for another 100 years.


The podcast is a long informal, conversational, exploration of monetary history, militias, social unrest, and more.
It gets thick at points, but I decided not to edit it because hopefully someone out there who’s smarter than me will catch some nuances in what Dr Vieira has to say.


To any Bitcoin podcasters out there, I highly recommend getting Dr. Vieira on your show! Reach out to me on Twitter (I’m @bradmillscan there) and I’d be happy to make the introduction.


Here’s some earlier videos from Dr Vieira:

https://youtu.be/NwGAjj1CWz0 if you want to hear more.


Dr. Vieira is currently writing on why militias are a better more effective constitutional answer to militarized police.
https://newswithviews.com/author/edwinvieira/

[madfranks]

As of now the price of BTC is $11,665.81. That's not too bad!

[Neuro]

I am invested in chainlink LINK, look it up I think it could be a 10 bagger at least...

[Shami-Amourae]

End of 2016 and start of 2017 bull year:


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-38495804


End of 2020 and start of 2021 bull year:


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-54982604


The exact same article and price moves

[LastResort]

Well I just got into this Funny clown money world this fall, I guess at the right time. Should have listened to shami a lot earlier. I tried but couldn't wrap my head around the concept until a few months ago. Crypto makes perfect sense once I realized the direction our rulers our pushing us with digital everything.

It has gone crazy and I feel like its going to crash with how fast the price is moving. Interesting times...

[Shami-Amourae]

Well I just got into this Funny clown money world this fall, I guess at the right time. Should have listened to shami a lot earlier. I tried but couldn't wrap my head around the concept until a few months ago. Crypto makes perfect sense once I realized the direction our rulers our pushing us with digital everything.

It has gone crazy and I feel like its going to crash with how fast the price is moving. Interesting times...

I wouldn't be shocked if it crashed 30-50% any day now but don't sell, just accumulate more. It will go much much higher.


Max Keiser predicted the 2020 price accurately, and he thinks it's going to $220,000, which is very realistic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmEtVoF63IM

[Shami-Amourae]

Elon Musk put Bitcoin in his profile.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk

[EE_]

Elon Musk put Bitcoin in his profile.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk

I like the sound of this one! https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/wallstreetbets/

[PatColo]

https://www.coindesk.com/price/bitcoin

24 HOUR LOW

$56,124.15


24 HOUR HIGH

$61,556.59


NET CHANGE

$3,290.85


24 HOUR OPEN

$57,426.35


ALL TIME HIGH

$61,556.59

[vacuum]

Bitcoin is getting ready to explode, probably to $70k. Could happen any second over the next 24hrs.

[ziero0]

Bitcoin is getting ready to explode, probably to $70k. Could happen any second over the next 24hrs.
That would seem to coincide with the implosion of the dollar.

The measurement of one fictional parameter (bitcoin) using a rubber yardstick (FRN) is hardly valid. People who use either currency have a mental deficiency because these only have value in the Land of the Walking Dead (not a good place to be diagnosed LIVING).

[PatColo]

SEC Weaponized Against Certain Cryptos for Powerful Interests? w/ Lbry CEO, Jeremy Kauffman

04-01-2021
@sarahwestall (https://gab.com/sarahwestall)
41m: https://www.bitchute.com/video/3M8uKnjkZqLC/

CEO of Lbry (parent of Odysee), Jeremy Kauffman, joins the program to discuss the SEC lawsuit against Lbry. He explains the case and explains why he believes the SEC is targeting the company. It’s a mind opening discussion as you learn that the SEC still has not explained to Lbry what they have done wrong. You can follow the case at http://HelpLbrySaveCrypto.com (http://helplbrysavecrypto.com/)

[vacuum]

Bitcoin is getting ready to explode, probably to $70k. Could happen any second over the next 24hrs.
Ok, I’m starting to change my perspective a bit. No explosive breakout happened, and now it’s starting to look bearish.

Check out the Bitcoin price compared to this diagram:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_wave_principle (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_wave_principle)

In starting to think it could take a dump back into the 40s.

Harry Dent, deflationist:
https://www.trunews.com/stream/harry-dent-warns-massive-economic-crash-coming-in-june-2021

[ziero0]

In starting to think it could take a dump back into the 40s.

The only reason I am not living in a 200 ft x 300 ft mansion is they don't make tape measures out of spandex.

Btw...I found some old records that showed the value of 120 year old $10 gold eagles was around $182 in 2002. So I would guess the FRN of today has a value of 20% of one 20 years ago. INSANE!!

Maybe I have some S&H green stamp books around here too!

[woodman]

The only reason I am not living in a 200 ft x 300 ft mansion is they don't make tape measures out of spandex.

Btw...I found some old records that showed the value of 120 year old $10 gold eagles was around $182 in 2002. So I would guess the FRN of today has a value of 20% of one 20 years ago. INSANE!!

Maybe I have some S&H green stamp books around here too!
Okay, now that there is some funny shit!

[Shami-Amourae]

The price has been consolidating and coiling up for a major movement likely upwards. There's a downside risk too but less likely as a lot of the indicators have been flipping bullish recently.
Possibly in 1 week.

I've been accumulating Monero and Litecoin.

[PatColo]

The price has been consolidating and coiling up for a major movement likely upwards. There's a downside risk too but less likely as a lot of the indicators have been flipping bullish recently.
Possibly in 1 week.

I've been accumulating Monero and Litecoin.

Jeff Berwick's latest yest,

Apr 08, 2021
You Can Ignore Reality But You Can't Ignore the Consequences of Ignoring Reality (https://www.bitchute.com/video/OqZ9vxrT1R2K/)

at around 30m, gets into cryptos, he's bullish on all + physical Au/Ag, but gave a pitch for "Pirate Exchange" (ARRR), under a buck, "the most private crypto there is"

but for fun, start @ 24m - for the segment with Chris Sky going into a Walgreens bareface, with cameraman, getting harangued; he mocks & blows off his harassers... checker told not to check him out but he leaves $20 cash for his quart of maple syrup (which included tip) & leaves store. priceless, brass balled Cannuck! :D

[Shami-Amourae]

Jeff Berwick's latest yest,

Apr 08, 2021
You Can Ignore Reality But You Can't Ignore the Consequences of Ignoring Reality (https://www.bitchute.com/video/OqZ9vxrT1R2K/)

at around 30m, gets into cryptos, he's bullish on all + physical Au/Ag, but gave a pitch for "Pirate Exchange" (ARRR), under a buck, "the most private crypto there is"

but for fun, start @ 24m - for the segment with Chris Sky going into a Walgreens bareface, with cameraman, getting harangued; he mocks & blows off his harassers... checker told not to check him out but he leaves $20 cash for his quart of maple syrup (which included tip) & leaves store. priceless, brass balled Cannuck! :D

I'm fully aware of Pirate Chain but I don't think it will catch on. I did seriously look into it though.

Every privacy chain that's gone up against Monero has failed.

I invested heavily into alternatives to Monero and got burned every time into the six figures. I just don't see Monero having any competition.

[vacuum]

I’m thinking potentially 2 weeks or more crabbing at $57k, then a collapse down to $42k or so before continuing on to make new highs.

It did this in 2017. First three Elliot peaks were May 11, May 25, and June 12. That took 32 days.

Then it started slowly going down for another 32days, before finally collapsing down to the peak of the first Elliot wave.

Same structure here, we have three Elliot peaks, but this time it took 64 days between first and third peak. We’ve been crabbing for 26 days since the peak. So it could keep going for a while potentially, but it has been nearly a month. But the problem is that everyone is exhausted and don’t feel like buying. The longer it crabs, the more deleveraging will occur which push the price down and deleverage others. Once all this is worked out and also taxes have been paid for the May tax date, and once summer inflation starts to cause the fed to control yields, it will start rocketing again.

That said, this is just a guess. I thought it was going to break out last week.

[vacuum]

I’m thinking potentially 2 weeks or more crabbing at $57k, then a collapse down to $42k or so before continuing on to make new highs.

It did this in 2017. First three Elliot peaks were May 11, May 25, and June 12. That took 32 days.

Then it started slowly going down for another 32days, before finally collapsing down to the peak of the first Elliot wave.

Same structure here, we have three Elliot peaks, but this time it took 64 days between first and third peak. We’ve been crabbing for 26 days since the peak. So it could keep going for a while potentially, but it has been nearly a month. But the problem is that everyone is exhausted and don’t feel like buying. The longer it crabs, the more deleveraging will occur which push the price down and deleverage others. Once all this is worked out and also taxes have been paid for the May tax date, and once summer inflation starts to cause the fed to control yields, it will start rocketing again.

That said, this is just a guess. I thought it was going to break out last week.
Wow, how can I be totally wrong every time

[Shami-Amourae]

Wow, how can I be totally wrong every time

You need to learn how charts work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5OeVSiisLU

[Shami-Amourae]

Pirate Chain is definitely picking up steam now and will probably make people fortunes. I already feel like I missed the boat. I still don't see how this will catch on long term and beat Monero though. I mean the name is absolutely stupid, it's like Ghost all over again. I'm mostly only interested in how much Bitcoin and Monero I have long term. People accept payments increasingly in Monero as it is real money, and the fees are almost 1 cent now.

Monero likely will skyrocket in use once physical cash is banned.

[vacuum]

Looks like we got played this time:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhf_2gJJS1I

That’s ok for me, more time to buy at low prices.

Clearly the big boys killed two birds with one stone, First, profiting and milking the public, and second, bringing the price back so they can accumulate.

[Shami-Amourae]

This was an insider move by the big banks that was warned about. The person in the above video warned about it too.
I knew about it but didn't take it seriously since it seemed crazy at the time.

Insider on /biz/ who warned:
https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/biz/thread/35710754/hey-guys-insider-here-for-those-of-you-that-are




Hey guys, insider here. For those of you that are not busy mumu/bobo larping, and paying attention, there will be another announcement from China soon. Picture is semi related. Can't tell you guys what firm I work for, but it's MASSIVE and it's working with the PRC. The purpose of today's press release alongside all the FUD posting is to get BTC as low as it can get before 7am UCT.

First, there will be a coordinated sell-off to drop the prices below a certain threshold and liquidate one certain stakeholder (can't outright say who he is but he bought a lot at the dip that he was partly responsible for).

Once liquidated, the plan is then to buy up all the reserves and essentially leave him bankrupted.

If you guys want to get rich, grab some coffee and watch for the big dip. Once it happens, things are going to get green really fast (we project 70k).

That's all.

[vacuum]

Looks like the Bitcoin price is following a Wyckoff accumulation event pattern.

Here’s an overlay of what Bitcoin’s price will likely do:

https://i.postimg.cc/Dv6mbM42/0bin-FAl-DTcp-F.jpg?dl=1

[vacuum]

Ok, as an update, it’s following the Wyckoff model almost perfectly. Almost every bump is accounted for:

https://postimg.cc/Vrh1x7Hn

I adjusted the timescale a bit, and now it’s showing May 26th as the low point. This aligns with what that guy on biz said would happen:

https://boards.4channel.org/biz/thread/35753727

edit: I’m going to post this in the charts thread. it’s been stickied for years, might as well use it

[Shami-Amourae]

The 2013 style Double Bubble Bitcoin Market explained:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6amY7FAJPVo

[Shami-Amourae]

#Bitcoin Macro bull-cycles


2011:
- Duration 9 Month’s (after prev. ATH)
- Bear trap in Month #6


2013:
- Duration 9 Month’s
- Bear trap in Month #5


2017:
- Duration 9 Month’s
- Bear trap in Month 6


2021 / Now: We’re in Month #6

https://twitter.com/damskotrades/status/1395690171601928195

[Shami-Amourae]

El Salvador become the first country to adopt Bitcoin as LEGAL TENDER.
Paraguay, Colombia and Mexico showing signs they may follow too.
https://twitter.com/Pentosh1/status/1402604645562867716


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_59hrgTiRJU


The United States (Globohomo) is freaking out, obviously.

President of El Salvador: “The U.S. State Department and IMF have already reached out to me”
https://twitter.com/BerwickJeff/status/1402613308583256070 (https://twitter.com/DocumentingBTC/status/1402487790386954250)



Hyper Bitcoinization of the world where Bitcoin becomes the global reserve standard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA8z7f7a2Pk
If you don't get it, Bitcoin will be worth over a $1 Million in the future.


The government WILL start cracking down, and you'll see another mass shift to privacy coins like Monero and possibly Pirate Chain.
Thankfully the US Government is ran by Trannies and Niggers now so it's slow and retarded to keep up with this stuff.

[vacuum]

I think the mini bear market is coming to an end and we’re about to imminently break out, within the next day or two. We could be above $40k in a single daily candle potentially.

We’re forming an ascending triangle that started with the dip to $28k. That appears to likely be the lowest point imo.

Still watching this, but wanted to give everyone a heads up

[vacuum]

Ok, it looks like there is a significant possibility that this ascending triangle will actually break to the downside. If it does, the next two weeks will be the best time to accumulate.

[ziero0]

News yesterday was talking of a closed coal fired power plant that had been converted to natural gas and reopened. Only it did not tie to the grid. Instead it powered thousands of computers mining Bitcoin.

Evidently it costs $3,000 to produce a Bitcoin that sells for $30,000.

So much for global warming!

[Shami-Amourae]

More and more smart people are seeing a prolonged crypto bear market that may last a year.
Bitcoin estimates as low as $10K (yes really).
Ethereum estimates as low as $200.
These are just the absolute bottom prices that could happen, that doesn't mean they get that low.
There's a good chance we don't ever drop below $20K too.

Bear market could last 1 day more to 1 year or so till we see a bottom finally. It's very hard to predict since we are in uncharted waters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrGtZ2P88pc
I recommend watching this entire thing.

I've already sold a bunch of crypto that's been down since we likely will go down much much lower.

The best coins to hold now may be USDC and DAI stablecoins. I hate to admit to all this but the market has been destroyed by whales. They gave everyone targets of Bitcoin to $100K and Bitcoin to $500K and clipped everyone at $64K without a blowoff top to mess everyone up, meaning every indicator to find a top wasn't there so almost everyone missed this, including myself.

The ultra rich want the market to "reset" to June/July 2020 levels so they can buy in THEN they will allow the market to rally. My point is hold cash and if you want to get rich you have a major chance if all this plays out. The real bull market might be in 2022.

I'm not selling off a large portion of my crypto in case I'm wrong and we get a White Swan event to turn things around (like a Bitcoin ETF). Other than that the market is completely screwed.

The way the market works with crypto is completely different now that Wall Street and these soulless Whales are messing with the markets. Every historical indicator and chart is invalidated essentially. The movement of Bitcoin is now 99.9% of the mercy of Bitcoin whales. Technical analysis is broken. The good thing is this will diminish the influence of Bitcoin over the market over time since people will get sick of Bitcoin shitting the bed and destroying every wonderful altcoin project around it.

The Big Lesson: Only buy crypto at the bottom of a bear market if you can, never when its clearly going up past all time highs.

This is a Bear Market.

[EE_]

More and more smart people are seeing a prolonged crypto bear market that may last a year.
Bitcoin estimates as low as $10K (yes really).
Ethereum estimates as low as $200.
These are just the absolute bottom prices that could happen, that doesn't mean they get that low.
There's a good chance we don't ever drop below $20K too.

Bear market could last 1 day more to 1 year or so till we see a bottom finally. It's very hard to predict since we are in uncharted waters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrGtZ2P88pc
I recommend watching this entire thing.

I've already sold a bunch of crypto that's been down since we likely will go down much much lower.

The best coins to hold now may be USDC and DAI stablecoins. I hate to admit to all this but the market has been destroyed by whales. They gave everyone targets of Bitcoin to $100K and Bitcoin to $500K and clipped everyone at $64K without a blowoff top to mess everyone up, meaning every indicator to find a top wasn't there so almost everyone missed this, including myself.

The ultra rich want the market to "reset" to June/July 2020 levels so they can buy in THEN they will allow the market to rally. My point is hold cash and if you want to get rich you have a major chance if all this plays out. The real bull market might be in 2022.

I'm not selling off a large portion of my crypto in case I'm wrong and we get a White Swan event to turn things around (like a Bitcoin ETF). Other than that the market is completely screwed.

The way the market works with crypto is completely different now that Wall Street and these soulless Whales are messing with the markets. Every historical indicator and chart is invalidated essentially. The movement of Bitcoin is now 99.9% of the mercy of Bitcoin whales. Technical analysis is broken. The good thing is this will diminish the influence of Bitcoin over the market over time since people will get sick of Bitcoin shitting the bed and destroying every wonderful altcoin project around it.

The Big Lesson: Only buy crypto at the bottom of a bear market if you can, never when its clearly going up past all time highs.

This is a Bear Market.

Just remember, when the FedCoin comes out, you helped make it possible. The Fed will outlaw all other cryptos when that time comes.
Maybe you'll still be able to fly to another country that still allows cryptos, to cash in?
On the bright side, Gods money, gold, aka "boomer rocks" is holding up quite well!

[Shami-Amourae]

Just remember, when the FedCoin comes out, you helped make it possible. The Fed will outlaw all other cryptos when that time comes.
Maybe you'll still be able to fly to another country that still allows cryptos, to cash in?
On the bright side, Gods money, gold, aka "boomer rocks" is holding up quite well!
FedCoin was inevitable. It's not crypto, just rebranded fiat. They'll tie it to social credit scores and UBI too. China already is doing this right now so it's not some conspiracy. America is just perfecting everything since they want their FedCoin "Dollar" to be the world reserve currency over China CBDC.

I didn't cause this, I'm one of the few actually fighting against it. This is a war between Technocrats and Cypherpunks. If you're not helping the Cypherpunk cause you're indirectly supporting the Technocrats, who will only grow in power until Cypherpunk numbers start to grow. There's only a few thousand of us fighting against the Technocrats.

That's why I heavily push for Monero and privacy coins.
I don't know when/where it will skyrocket but I believe it will one day.
I believe strongly the next paradigm will be privacy coins and you'll see the rise of DAOs take over. For instance ShapeShift, a major crypto exchange many on this forum have used is shutting their doors to become decentralized. No office, no CEO, no way to regulate or arrest anyone.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/shapeshift-to-decentralize-entire-company-plans-for-largest-airdrop-in-history
Binance will likely do this too (go full decentralized and become a DAO) as their CEO has been literally in hiding a long time now and regulators are trying to shut them down all over the world. I do believe this is being done since a Bitcoin ETF is likely to be approved, but regulators want to see leverage trading done on Binance wiped out before they can allow an ETF. If a Bitcoin ETF happens Bitcoin will completely skyrocket to all those crazy moonboy levels. It will just be heavily regulated and taxed to Hell.

Gold will never keep up with inflation or go up a ton anymore. It's mostly dead. You're better off investing in the stock market which is guaranteed to go up. In Venezuela their stock market always goes up since their central bank just pumps money into it forever like ours does. We are in a digital revolution. The world is becoming digitized, and Gold will eventually be worth as much as what Silver is today by the time I'm an old person with all the asteroid and ocean mining coming online in the new few decades.

The future of crypto is still in tact. Nothing has changed long term.

[Shami-Amourae]

The Fed will outlaw all other cryptos when that time comes.

They'd have done that already if they intended to. They plan to tax and regulate the Hell out of it. The new head of the SEC was literally a cryptocurrency professor at MIT. He's very pro-crypto. He/They just want to regulate it.
Several countries have tried to ban it but haven't been successful. It just is pushed underground and the government doesn't get any taxes from it.

They'll likely make a push to ban a lot of stablecoins though. That's algorithmic why stablecoins like DAI are important since they are run by no one. They are fully automated. If Haven wasn't managed by retards I'd consider that too.

Once they get stablecoins and leverage trading under control they'll likely make a Bitcoin + Etheruem ETF and Bitcoin/blockchain will be as widespread as the Internet usage is today.
We have the same amount of blockchain users today as the Internet had in 1997, and there were still people saying the Internet was a fad back then.


P. Krugman 1998, “The growth of the Internet will slow drastically, as the flaw in ‘Metcalfe’s law' becomes apparent: most people have nothing to say to each other! By 2005, it will become clear that the Internet’s impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine’s”

[Shami-Amourae]

I recommend those interested following Pentoshi on Twitter. He called the recent top at $64K and believes we've bottomed out already. I don't know if he's right on this but its wise to listen to people who were correct in the past:
https://twitter.com/Pentosh1

Keep in mind I only declared Bitcoin in a Bear Market when it said that on the weekly charts. It can flip Bullish anytime Bitcoin wants to.

[vacuum]

I agree, I think that the low is in. I’m going to buy in at the next dip to $32k.

Will probably buy the following:
link, bch, xmr, eth, bat. Maybe some smaller more speculative ones as well.

[Dachsie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETbVuoPnbvk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETbVuoPnbvk

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Infrastructure Also Means "Sweeping Surveillance Of Crypto Holders"

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[Shami-Amourae]

Infrastructure Also Means "Sweeping Surveillance Of Crypto Holders"



I predicted all of these things.
It's why I'm so crazy bullish on Monero:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?103675-XMR-Monero-General&p=981321

[Shami-Amourae]

I agree, I think that the low is in. I’m going to buy in at the next dip to $32k.

Will probably buy the following:
link, bch, xmr, eth, bat. Maybe some smaller more speculative ones as well.

The Dollar Vigilante's secret pick is Dero, which is a privacy version of Ethereum. Just a tip.
Not saying to buy or not though. It's highly risky, but high rewards for those risks.
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/dero

[vacuum]

The Dollar Vigilante's secret pick is Dero, which is a privacy version of Ethereum. Just a tip.
Not saying to by or not though. It's highly risky, but high rewards for those risks.
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/dero

Thanks.

I believe that if the infrastructure clause passes, the crypto part goes into effect in 2023. That’s an eternity in crypto, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it only minimally affects this bull market.

Still time to invest in privacy stuff.

The real rush is going to happen when the financial system starts collapsing and they begin monetizing debt. They will put a 90% tax on crypto.

[ziero0]

"The real rush is going to happen when the financial system starts collapsing"

Every financial system they come up with starts collapsing immediately. In case you missed it this is the pattern you can take to the bank.

[Shami-Amourae]

Thanks.

I believe that if the infrastructure clause passes, the crypto part goes into effect in 2023. That’s an eternity in crypto, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it only minimally affects this bull market.

Still time to invest in privacy stuff.



That's been my theory. It's a longer term play that's about accumulation.

If my theory is right, essentially you could become a multi-millionaire with a middle class tier of investment.


Some notable areas to pay attention to:

XHV - Exchange of synthetic assets on chain - fork of XMR. This lets you have an anonymous stablecoins. Has had recent hacks but is still kicking. The devs seem corrupt though.


DERO - Wants to the be private version of ETH. Needs a ton more work and developers though. Could be promising in the future but unknown.


RUNE - Decentralized liquidity provider and exchange. Has had many hacks too (their services not the crypto). Very promising once they learn to code better.


Samurai Wallet - Supporting Atomic Swaps between BTC and XMR. Not an investment, just showing you that my Atomic Swaps narrative is coming online. Smart money will start moving from public to private blockchains.

[Shami-Amourae]

Pentosh1 think's we'll have a Bitcoin ETF by the end of the year, which means a 2022 Bitcoin price of $180K+.
https://twitter.com/Pentosh1/status/1425859893538525188

[Shami-Amourae]

He's reaffirming 180K:
https://twitter.com/Pentosh1/status/1429119999772405765

This guy has the most accurate predictions of anyone I know of. I've been following him for a while.
He called the recent 64K top and 29K bottom.

[vacuum]

Kevin Svenson also predicts $180k

[Cebu_4_2]

Charlie Bilello
@charliebilello
1-Year Returns
Dogecoin $DOGE: +9412%
Cardano $ADA: +2218%
Binance $BNB: +2174%
Solana $SOL: +2128%
Ethereum $ETH: +756%
Uniswap $UNI: +593%
Polkadot $DOT: +591%
XRP $XRP: +348%
Bitcoin $BTC: +332%
Litecoin $LTC: +214%
BitcoinCash $BCH: +142%
Chainlink $LINK: +92%
Gold $GLD: -9%
7:17 am · 23 Aug 2021·Twitter Web App

[ziero0]

Here an observation. Bitcoin appears to.be similar to the STARS or POINTS they give you when playing an arcade game.

The more addicted you become to playing the more points you get.

A system designed by adolescents for adolescents.

[vacuum]

Buy this dip.

The Evergrande fud is just being used to push down markets for a nice buying opportunity.

FED meets tomorrow, they will throw a softball if anything. Then China will bail out Evergrande and cause everything to go parabolic.

I think this dip we’re in today is a Wyckoff spring.

[Spun Gold]

I'm sick of watching my cryptos go up and down and up and down... so much waiting.
I'm getting into pay to play games that use NFT's crypto non fungible tokens.
Here's a great game.. the first drop of the NFT's is tomorrow on Binance exchange.

https://www.binance.com/en/nft/eventTemplate/492359486188253184

here is the games own crypto
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/derace/

In about another week DeRace will have a Horse NFT drop on their platform.

[Shami-Amourae]

I'm only investing in privacy projects right now.
I think the next wave of market makers will be privacy focused. This will be an ongoing process that will take up to 5 years to be realized, meaning this is a long term investment/play.
Most people don't value privacy right now but they will as governments start cracking down on Crypto since the Bankers are realize they messed up by not crushing Crypto earlier, so they're going to try to attempt to late to the party.

Watch as Gary Gensler ramps up regulations and attacks projects in the coming years. They'll start labeling everything as "securities" and try to destroy it.
They'll likely go after any crypto that had pre-mines and label those all as securities. This is a large percentage of most cryptos.

This will drive people from DeFi into DarkFi (DeFi + Privacy).
There's only 3 privacy focused DarkFi projects, none of which have any major promise yet (they need to be developed):
Dero, Secret Network (parachain of Cosmos), Phala Network (possible parachain of Polkadot/Kusama)

If the government pushes hard enough (doubtful but possible) you could see a flippening of Bitcoin to Monero. This scenario is unlikely but a possibility you should all consider.

[vacuum]

Looks like crypto is coiled up. The overall market cap will likely do a 2x to 5x over next 6 months.






There's only 3 privacy focused DarkFi projects, none of which have any major promise yet (they need to be developed):
Dero, Secret Network (parachain of Cosmos), Phala Network (possible parachain of Polkadot/Kusama)

The charts on all these look very good, especially the second two.

[Shami-Amourae]

I strongly recommend everyone follow CryptoCapo_ on Twitter. This guy has made some seriously accurate calls lately.
https://twitter.com/CryptoCapo_/with_replies

[vacuum]

@TechDev_52 and @kevinsvenson_ are both quite good. Especially TechDev.

[vacuum]

I’m probably going to buy pretty heavily next week, maybe some family will as well.

Looks like bitcoin will be dominating for a while and then we’ll have alt season again.

Likely bitcoin goes to $250k. Anything above current levels is a bubble so be careful.

[Shami-Amourae]

I’m probably going to buy pretty heavily next week, maybe some family will as well.

Looks like bitcoin will be dominating for a while and then we’ll have alt season again.

Likely bitcoin goes to $250k. Anything above current levels is a bubble so be careful.

I'm not buying anything right now, in fact getting ready to cash out.
Don't expect $250K Bitcoin. Yes it could happen but the market makers give targets higher than the market will go so they have exit liquidity for bag holders.


There's a few more market top indicators too.
Use this. (https://www.lookintobitcoin.com/charts/pi-cycle-top-indicator/) When the lines cross it's an obvious top. Start to exit/sell some when the lines get close to another.

[EE_]

I'm not buying anything right now, in fact getting ready to cash out.
Don't expect $250K Bitcoin. Yes it could happen but the market makers give targets higher than the market will go so they have exit liquidity for bag holders.


There's a few more market top indicators too.
Use this. (https://www.lookintobitcoin.com/charts/pi-cycle-top-indicator/) When the lines cross it's an obvious top. Start to exit/sell some when the lines get close to another.

Another possible indicator.
The Wall Street criminal gang have been pumping cryptos pretty good lately. 1. They must be looking to make a killing. 2. They are trying to keep gold and silver suppressed.
Talk about silver on the business news is non existent.

[Shami-Amourae]

2. They are trying to keep gold and silver suppressed.
Talk about silver on the business news is non existent.

Zoom out on the multi-year charts for Gold. It's in a GIANT reverse head and shoulders pattern (Bullish). Everyone thinks Gold is dead.
If I'm able to cash out a lot of my crypto in the coming months I plan to go heavily into Gold.

[EE_]

Zoom out on the multi-year charts for Gold. It's in a GIANT reverse head and shoulders pattern (Bullish). Everyone thinks Gold is dead.
If I'm able to cash out a lot of my crypto in the coming months I plan to go heavily into Gold.

Good luck in doing that, it sure looks like it's getting close to the time for PM's to rock. PM's are the most undervalued asset in the world right now.
If the market has a major correction, I'd expect PM's to take a hit too. I'm keeping powder dry for that, if it happens.
Our world has drastically changed in the last 10 months. Nothing is safe, nothing can be trusted, everything is a big lie. Corruption is off the charts.
The government has become way more intrusive into our lives then can be believed, and that is only the beginning.

[vacuum]

I’m converting my entire 401k to GBTC tomorrow.

It’s trading at a 20% discount right now.

Around mid November, I’m going to convert it into either grayscale eth, dot, or link.

Then end of the year or possible January, I’m going to convert all that to Sprott gold and silver.

I think that the bitcoin bull run will suppress gold. When the crypto bull run ends and crypto crashes, that may cause a gold bull run, because then gold will be the only thing left standing. Great observation Shami on the massive cup and handle formation in gold.

The amazing thing about the grayscale trust is that bitcoin is at a 20% discount to nav, but by the time mania is happening, it may be a 20% premium to nav. So basically, it increases the bull run by 40%. ETHE is at an 8% discount right now, but it’s been at up to a 300% premium before. So who knows what will happen there.

This is all in the 401k so no taxes on the swings.

[ziero0]

Essen!

https://youtu.be/nG2vlX5xUP8

or

Keep your estate at a size you can digest.

Perhaps crypto currency works because it would be easy on the intestine?

[vacuum]

Buy this dip.

I think the pandemic playbook is pulled out when they need to keep inflation down and suppress the economy so they can print money without inflation consequences.

They really have no choice but to use this method.

Edit: this new moon on December 4th is a solar eclipse. So it could be pretty volatile. Might not be bullish.

[vacuum]

Edit: this new moon on December 4th is a solar eclipse. So it could be pretty volatile. Might not be bullish.

Looks like the new moon/solar eclipse did indeed nuke the market.

I think that we recover from here, but we’re on a time clock.

I’m planning on exiting all markets by January 31st. (http://gold-silver.us/forum/x-apple-data-detectors://1)

February 2022 will be bad imo. I can share various reasons why, but it comes down to astrological reasons, fed tightening reasons, traditional market reasons, and more. It’s just a bad month.

[Shami-Amourae]

Personally I've been derisking into cash. Only selling off poor performing altcoins, and/or coins that have had major run ups. There's a good chance Bitcoin goes up to $53K or higher in December/January (but not up to $69K) then dumps to $25K. Like a Complacency Shoulder. All time highs are possible but unlikely, the market structure is pretty screwed up right now.
Another possibility is we're in an Wyckoff Accumulation Phase like we had from May-July 2021. The longer we stay in the current range the more likely we break All Time Highs (unlikely right now).

I personally don't think its a good time to buy anything unless its a good quick trade. The Fed is setting things up to be more deflationary so a lot of smart people are going more into cash right now, despite the inflation. Gold/Silver will likely crash first (Deflation) then skyrocket after (Inflation in response to Deflation).

I'm very bad at predicting prices short/medium term honestly so don't take anything I say seriously. You should listen to people much smarter than me on those issues.


I strongly recommend you get on Twitter and use it daily. Don't interact, just lurk.
Here's my updated list of people to follow and pay CLOSE attention to (turn on Notifications):

BEST
https://twitter.com/Pentosh1/with_replies
https://twitter.com/ThinkingBitmex/with_replies

ChimpZoo AKA ThinkingBitmex likes to run "SPACES" which are a live audio chat on Twitter. The only problem with SPACES is its live and there's no recording, so if you miss the link you're screwed. He does these daily with a bunch of very smart people, sometimes including Pentoshi. He also has a Discord where Pentoshi also hangs out at too.
Pentoshi is THE SMARTEST PERSON IN CRYPTO. Period. This guy is ridiculously smart.
ChimpZoo's Discord: https://discord.gg/CZpvyPNDHr



GOOD
https://twitter.com/zhusu
https://twitter.com/blockchainedbb/with_replies
https://twitter.com/permabearXBT/with_replies
https://twitter.com/lightcrypto/with_replies
https://twitter.com/enchiridion47/with_replies
https://twitter.com/CryptoNick_1 (he is documenting possible Wyckoff pattern)

I honestly don't know what will happen with the markets I'm just sharing my opinions. Don't try to chase gains. If you see something going up don't buy it since you've already missed that train. Almost all the crypto I bought is from 2020 after March. I buy at the pico bottoms and sell as prices go up.
If you're buying right now you should only do it as short term trades IMO. Pentoshi has said Bitcoin will likely go to $25K in 2022.


It's very hard to say what's going to happen with crypto in 2022. Likely it will be an up/down sideways year where we range between $25K to $60K like we did in 2021. Just be prepared for that. This could change too buy it's based on the Fed's currently stated policy. If there's more lockdowns and stimulus checks sent out Bitcoin easily will crack $100K. The Crypto market is also heavily correlated to the S&P right now.

Currently Monero is a HORRIBLE investment which I mentioned before. It MIGHT get you rich one day, but it will also hide your wealth. One option is to buy Monero, then buy something else with it on an anonymous exchange with a VPN. That way you can have crypto no one can know about. I hold a shit ton of Monero but that's since I'm a cypherpunk (true believer in the "cause".) I view Monero as a train that hasn't left the station. It's smart in my view to invest in projects that could skyrocket one day under the right conditions. That's how I've made most of my gains -- it's called "Fundamentals Investing".
Monero (+ privacy coins) is the only legitimate use case for Crypto. Everything else other than Bitcoin and Stablecoins (and their algorithmic pegs like LUNA) are scams. Cardano, Avalanche, and Solana are scams.

The entire NFT and Metaverse stuff going on is a fake pump and dump by VCs (Venture Capitalists). These are giant scams.

For example with my Fundamentals Investing strategy I was buying Cardano from $0.02 to $0.08 over a long period of time, many months. I viewed it as a train that had not left the station, then one day it went to $3.09.
Privacy Coins tend to be horrible investments, but randomly skyrocket out of the blue. High risk, high reward.


By the way. If Bitcoin does drop below $30K BUY THEN. I'm accumulating cash right now to buy if Bitcoin goes that low. That's likely they cheapest entry point you'll ever get in on Crypto from now on.
Crypto is highly volatile, but that volatility is why you get such amazing gains. Always remember that.

[Shami-Amourae]

Both Pentoshi and ChimpZoo think Bitcoin will have a swing up to $54-60K possibly.
This is probably your best chance to de-risk and sell out if you haven't.

If what your holding is something you want to hold for many years (Like Bitcoin or Monero) its up to you if you want to hold through a possible Bear Market.


If Bitcoin gets over $53K a lot of people will think we're out of the Bear trend and going to all time highs. This is likely where a complacency shoulder forms, or the head and shoulders.
By the way I'm not saying we are or aren't in a Bear market. It's just the probabilities is we are in one or going into one. If we do go higher (unlikely) I don't think it goes over the $80K region.

Gold is unironically the place to be when you cash out or stocks that politicians own.

[vacuum]

Looks like you were right Shami about this being a potential Wyckoff accumulation.

It appears we are headed for the spring over the next 1.5 weeks. If we slowly bleed down to the low 40s, I’ll be buying in heavily.

Regarding pentoshi and chimpzoo’s thoughts about a last push up to $54 to $60k, I’m not sure I agree with them. Their trading is great, but I don’t know if their macro predictions are as good. I think their tactical calls are great though (well pentoshi that is. I’m not super impressed with chimpzoo yet, still following him though).

I do have some ideas on macro for 2022 which I’ll try to post. May do it in the finance forum to post pictures. Short answer is I’m pretty bullish early in the year, but fall is scary.

[vacuum]

Buy this weekend. BUY BUY BUY!

Next week we should break out. Minimum we are going to $51k within 2 weeks.

[vacuum]

ChimpZoo AKA ThinkingBitmex likes to run "SPACES" which are a live audio chat on Twitter. The only problem with SPACES is its live and there's no recording, so if you miss the link you're screwed. He does these daily with a bunch of very smart people, sometimes including Pentoshi..

Thanks Shami, this was a great tip. I’ve been catching his spaces for a couple weeks. He’s definitely a good trader and I pretty much agree with him usually.

[vacuum]

Buy this weekend. BUY BUY BUY!

Next week we should break out. Minimum we are going to $51k within 2 weeks.

Well this wasn’t so great, lol. Got the timing right but not the direction.

I think we go down to mid 30s (could wick lower), and roughly 4 to 6 weeks before recovering into the 50s. So I think the buy call was still good if that happens.

Where we go after that is the big question. I am still macro bullish this year, but we’ll see what happens.

[EE_]

I know this would be no surprise to anyone here.

Federal Reserve Floats Idea to Create New Cryptocurrency Controlled by the Government
January 21, 2022 Constitutional Nobody News
USSANews.com

The following article, Federal Reserve Floats Idea to Create New Cryptocurrency Controlled by the Government, was first published on Big League Politics.

The U.S Federal Reserve, the central bank that has overseen massive inflation of the dollar since its inception in 1913, is thinking of dabbling in cryptocurrency.

The Fed issued a preview of a report on Thursday in which they discussed the idea of creating a cryptocurrency of their own, weighing the pros and cons of such endeavor.

“We look forward to engaging with the public, elected representatives and a broad range of stakeholders as we examine the positives and negatives of a central bank digital currency in the United States,” Fed Chairman Jerome Powell said in a statement.

While a central bank creating a cryptocurrency seemingly defeats the idea of crypto in general, the Fed is likely exploring the idea to hasten the transition toward a cashless society. Fed analysts have pined for a cashless society and a digital dollar for many years as it would drastically increase their power.

“We are looking very carefully about whether we should issue a digital dollar,” Fed Chairman Jerome Powell said to the Senate Banking Committee last year. “As the reserve currency, we have the responsibility to get this right rather than be the first.”

“The economy is a long way from our employment and inflation goals, and it is likely to take some time for substantial further progress to be achieved,” Powell added, noting that the digital dollar would allow the Fed to increase inflationary measures that would help giant banks.

Big League Politics has reported on the nature of the Fed and how it enables the worst big government excesses of the swamp in Washington D.C.:

“Fox News host Tucker Carlson exposed the U.S. central bank, the Federal Reserve, during an episode of his eponymous primetime show on Tuesday night.

Carlson said that although the Federal Reserve may have been initiated under a noble pretense, they have since strayed from their mandate and become hostile toward the dollar they are supposed to be protecting.

“It’s the classic story of the fireman turned arsonist, or for that matter, the COVID czar who helped to create COVID. Irony of ironies, it seems like we read a lot of those lately,” Carlson said.

He explained the inflationary process known as quantitative easing, which has been the policy on the books since the financial crisis of 2008. The markets are being pumped up with cheap money, and it benefits Wall Street while destroying the financial security of main street.

“Every month, Federal Reserve officials print more than $100 billion new dollars in American currency and then they inject those dollars in our financial system by buying assets like bonds and securities. This is not a normal thing to do. It is a radical thing to do, and it was supposed to be temporary. It was in response to a crisis,” Carlson said.

“In medical terms, quantitative easing is like chemotherapy. There are times when it can save your life but fundamentally, it is poison. If you keep taking it, it will kill you. Pretty much everyone agrees on that. And pretty much everyone understands that ultimately quantitative easing causes horrible inflation, and it is easy to understand why. You don’t need to be an expert. The more money you print, the less that money is worth,” he added.

Carlson explained how the policies of the Federal Reserve are “immoral” and done at the behest of banksters and influential Democrat Party donors. He said that fed officials are refusing to taper their quantitative easing despite repeated assurances they will curtail the reckless policies.

He argued that “the actual American economy is in trouble and there are many signs of it.”

“Labor markets are tight right now because a lot of Americans have simply dropped out of the labor force. 4.3 million people walked off the job last month. Some of them were forced out by Joe Biden’s vaccine mandates. Projections for GDP growth just dropped from six percent to one and a half percent. Small businesses across the country are dying, and maybe most ominous of all. Inflation is here. It’s not just a temporary problem caused by COVID disrupted supply chains. It is absolutely real,” Carlson said.

He used many examples to show how inflation is skyrocketing, including rising food costs and the soaring cost of cars and homes. Carlson said that Biden’s insane government spending is making the Federal Reserve’s policies hurt Americans even moreso, but the elites don’t seem to care very much…

Carlson emphasized that there are people who are directly responsible for these policies, and they should be held accountable for their deliberate destruction of the U.S. economy.

“What he didn’t say was that this is not an act of God. This isn’t a hurricane. It’s not an earthquake. It’s not something we can’t control. This is the result of decades of policy that have enriched a few and impoverished the many. When will the reckoning be for that? And what are the effects for you going forward?” he said to conclude his segment.“

Fed-backed crypto will enable the technocracy to soar to obscene new excesses as the Orwellian Nightmare is realized across the country.

https://ussanews.com/federal-reserve-floats-idea-to-create-new-cryptocurrency-controlled-by-the-government/

[ziero0]

The U.S Federal Reserve, the central bank that has overseen massive inflation of the dollar since its inception in 1913, is thinking of dabbling in cryptocurrency.

1913 is 108 years ago. The Rule Against Perpetuities is lifetime plus 21 years plus a gestation period (9 months). I simplify this by making the maximum period before the rule kicks in as 99 years. This is actually quite generous because it presumes the maker was an infant. Strictly speaking the creator of the Federal Reserve was in his 60s at the time of his creation so likely the FED met the Rule limit prior to WW1 (phase deuce).

The exception to the Rule is singular: charitable trusts.

I have no grievance against any entity that acts as a charitable trust. Legal fictions are mental constructs. That is why tombstones are placed on graves (which is where the FED belongs).

[Shami-Amourae]

I know this would be no surprise to anyone here.

Federal Reserve Floats Idea to Create New Cryptocurrency Controlled by the Government


You may need Monero to survive.
Governments will know everything you buy/sell otherwise in an age without cash or privacy.

[vacuum]

Yesterday was a big fake out.

It was the biggest daily volume in the Nasdaq in 10 years.

https://twitter.com/wclementeiii/status/1485781911645700096?s=21

The bottom is in. The stock market is going on another leg up.

That means crypto is as well.

[vacuum]

I am getting extremely bearish.

$43k was supposed to be the bottom but that broke down.

We’re looking at possibly $20k.

I’m expecting a near-term short squeeze to over $40k which I’m probably going to use to exit. I know, I’m now turning bearish when we’re down after being bullish when the price was high. To tell you the truth I feel like buying, but my analysis is just showing that there is more to go down. Will update if this changes.

[ziero0]

https://mobile.twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1485314361312915456/photo/1

Negotiating isn't always winning.

[Shami-Amourae]

There's a lot of super bullish and bearish things playing out in 2022.
I honestly have no idea what will happen since there's so much conflicting information its a all screwed up.

I'm just hoping that WHEN the government starts clamping down on DeFi all the retards in the market finally realize how important Monero is.
If I'm right people who listened to me will become multimillionaires very easily.

[Shami-Amourae]

The bottom is in.

The bottom is in when Pentosh1 starts bull posting again.
https://twitter.com/Pentosh1/with_replies

[vacuum]

The next bull run is about to kick off.

Mid May and we go vertical. Won’t even have time to buy back in after that.

[vacuum]

I’m buying with all my remaining cash

[Shami-Amourae]

I’m buying with all my remaining cash

Listen to me.

The bottom is in when Pentosh1 starts bull posting again.
https://twitter.com/Pentosh1/with_replies

[vacuum]

I know I’ve called it prematurely several times now, but I think that the low is in and we go up until October.


Listen to me.

Noted. I am trying to develop my own methods, but am definitely paying attention to him.

[holla1870]

I know I’ve called it prematurely several times now, but I think that the low is in and we go up until October.



Noted. I am trying to develop my own methods, but am definitely paying attention to him.

What kind of methods?

[monty]

The FTX dumpster fire is white hot




http://youtu.be/m3TLbRep6jU

https://youtu.be/m3TLbRep6jU

[vacuum]

Highest coinbase weekly volume of all time last week.

This is probably the bottom.

[Shami-Amourae]

Highest coinbase weekly volume of all time last week.

This is probably the bottom.
.....

The bottom is in when Pentosh1 starts bull posting again.
https://twitter.com/Pentosh1/with_replies

[vacuum]

Looks like the bottom is likely in.

We’ll probably chop sideways for 6 months before the next bull run.

The $18.5k to $19k range is an accumulation area imo going forward.

[Neuro]

Highest coinbase weekly volume of all time last week.

This is probably the bottom.

Pretty good call it hit a slightly lower bottom below 16k about a week 10 days later from your post. High volume at a top or a bottom is a good indicator though of a turn in the market.

[vacuum]

Penguin is buying

https://twitter.com/pentosh1/status/1634364252981977088

[vacuum]

I’m thinking we get to $48k by April 20th, then a big correction back down to the 20s possibly.