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EE_
29th December 2017, 09:08 AM
"Your bitcoins or your life motherfucker!"
The beauty of it is, if the kidnappers get him to give up his bitcoins, they won't be traced or caught. Love it!
So there is still opportunity for people who missed the boat to cash in on bitcoin! Find a bitcoin millionaire, kidnap him, force him to give them up and you're home free!

Bitcoin Exchange CEO Kidnapped Leaving Office
by Tyler Durden
Fri, 12/29/2017 - 10:09

Being a "Bitcoin Billionaire" just got a bit more complicated after reports surfaced that the CEO of EXMO, a UK-based Bitcoin exchange, was kidnapped in Kiev. According to The Telegraph, Pavel Lerner (40) was pulled into a black Mercedes Benz by a group of armed men wearing ski masks as he left his office in the Obolon district of Kiev on December 26.

Adding to the intrigue of the abduction, EXMO's website suffered a DDOS attack this morning, which knocked trading temporarily offline, just as news of the kidnapping begin to draw public attention.

Following the news of Lerner's disappearance, EXMO issued a statement requesting "any information regarding his whereabouts" and assuring customers that he could not be 'convinced' to give up their Bitcoin or personal data stored on the exchange.

A spokesman was unavailable for comment but a statement sent to RT, the broadcaster backed by the Russian government, said that Mr Lerner's kidnapping would not affect the business.

"We are doing everything possible to speed up the search of Pavel Lerner," it said.

"Any information regarding his whereabouts is very much appreciated. Despite the situation, the exchange is working as usual. We also want to stress that nature of Pavel’s job at EXMO doesn’t assume access either to storages or any personal data of users. All users funds are absolutely safe."

Pavel Lerner

According to RT, Lerner, a Russian citizen, has a number of startups in the Ukraine linked to cryptocurrency mining and blockchain technology in addition to being the CEO of EXMO.

Earlier this month we reported that, Nice Hash, the largest crypto-mining marketplace, was hacked with over 4,700 bitcoins, worth over $62 million, stolen and ultimately ending up at the following address:

Of course, it's completely unclear whether Lerner's disappearance has anything to do with his links to various cryptocurrency ventures and Kiev police have yet to release any details on potential motives for the kidnapping.

Horn
29th December 2017, 09:26 AM
I'm sure no one that's making money on cryptos cares what happens to the world, or our future.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJfJPxLntZU

EE_
29th December 2017, 09:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJfJPxLntZU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inXQAj0Wlno


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG7zLhEWanc

EE_
29th December 2017, 10:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ej88Bicts4

EE_
29th December 2017, 04:55 PM
Nice little haul for a days work, good work guys!

Crypto Exchange CEO Released After Paying $1 Million Ransom In Bitcoin
by Tyler Durden
Fri, 12/29/2017 - 14:45

Just yesterday we warned that the lives of the world's new "Bitcoin Billionaires" had just become a bit more complicated after reports surfaced that one such crypto investor, Pavel Lerner, was kidnapped by a group of armed men wearing ski masks as he left his office in the Obolon district of Kiev earlier this week.

While it may have seemed that his fate was sealed at the moment of his kidnapping, the Financial Times has just confirmed the Lerner has been released after paying his kidnappers a $1 million ransom in Bitcoin.

An executive of a UK-registered cryptocurrency exchange kidnapped in Ukraine this week has been released after paying a ransom of more than $1m in bitcoins, according to an adviser to the Ukrainian interior minister, in a crime he dubbed “bitcoin kidnapping and extortion”.

“He was kidnapped by an armed gang for the purpose of extorting bitcoins,” Mr Gerashchenko told the Financial Times, adding: “We have operative information that he paid more than $1m worth of bitcoins.”

He said Mr Lerner was held for one and a half days, “then released in a state of shock. ... He got very lucky that he remained alive.”

Lerner

As we noted yesterday, Pavel, a Russian citizen, has a number of startups in Ukraine linked to cryptocurrency mining and blockchain technology. In addition, he is also the CEO of EXMO, a UK-based Bitcoin exchange.

According to prior reports from The Telegraph, Lerner (40) was pulled into a black Mercedes Benz by a group of armed men wearing ski masks as he left his office on December 26. Adding to the intrigue of the abduction, EXMO's website suffered a DDOS attack yesterday morning, which knocked trading temporarily offline, just as news of the kidnapping begin to draw public attention.

Following the news of Lerner's disappearance, EXMO issued a statement requesting "any information regarding his whereabouts" and assuring customers that he could not be 'convinced' to give up their Bitcoin or personal data stored on the exchange.

A spokesman was unavailable for comment but a statement sent to RT, the broadcaster backed by the Russian government, said that Mr Lerner's kidnapping would not affect the business.

"We are doing everything possible to speed up the search of Pavel Lerner," it said.

"Any information regarding his whereabouts is very much appreciated. Despite the situation, the exchange is working as usual. We also want to stress that nature of Pavel’s job at EXMO doesn’t assume access either to storages or any personal data of users. All users funds are absolutely safe."

Pavel Lerner

Of course, Lerner is not the first Bitcoin extortion target for the world's new breed of crypto terrorists. Earlier this month we reported that, Nice Hash, the largest crypto-mining marketplace, was hacked with over 4,700 bitcoins, worth over $62 million, stolen and ultimately ending up at the following address:

Conclusion: If you've made a small fortune trading Bitcoin over the past couple of quarters it may be best to keep that information to yourself...

Ares
29th December 2017, 07:46 PM
Now for my opinion, Jews are behind Bitcoin and the crypto industry and they have much bigger plans then to give people like you and I a decentralized currency.

Not true, jews have never, EVER in the history of money EVER opened their ledger for an audit willingly. The Bitcoin blockchain is public and can be viewed, searched, and analyzed at will. There is even a site called walletexplorer.com that is able to track (exchange wise) who owns a wallet. Jews scurry from the light like cockroaches, to say they are behind it is to be ignorant of its use. At this point in time I would of thought you would of looked into crytpo currencies further. If you want a Jew sponsored and 100% controlled coin look no further than Ripple. 100% premined, controlled, centralized garbage banker coin that is attempting to be used to facilitate intra bank lending using the Ripple protocol.


*The above has nothing to do with people profiting during the transition into a global currency for the elite Jewish NWO.
I'm sure no one that's making money on cryptos cares what happens to the world, or our future, as long as you're getting rich now. Now is all that matters.

Also not true, there is a battle going on for the heart and soul of Bitcoin. Between those who want to try and control it and those who want to leave it decentralized open and free. If The jews were behind it, there would be no battle for it's existence.

Jewboo
29th December 2017, 08:02 PM
If The jews were behind it, there would be no battle for it's existence.

https://www.financialsense.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/desktop/users/u290/images/2012/kissinger-saudi-arabia.jpg

Like their kosher petrodollar?

Horn
30th December 2017, 08:34 AM
Ares, stated in another thread that "Bitcoin were price searching itself"

Hell be it that Jews don't create a "battle for existence" when price searching.

In fact, I think that's pretty much all they ever do. "We need enemies" is their sole motto and chaos creed.

Once the battle won, the jew's enemy is homogenized for future counter use never exiled.

Ares
30th December 2017, 11:44 AM
Ares, stated in another thread that "Bitcoin were price searching itself"

Hell be it that Jews don't create a "battle for existence" when price searching.

In fact, I think that's pretty much all they ever do. "We need enemies" is their sole motto and chaos creed.

Once the battle won, the jew's enemy is homogenized for future counter use never exiled.

We've seen how price discovery has been all but removed from gold and silver. Price discovery on a decentralized asset class that they did not create nor control is being a bit problematic for them.

AndreaGail
2nd January 2018, 12:58 PM
Bitcoin rises after report says early Facebook investor Peter Thiel is buying massive amounts

-Peter Thiel's Founders Fund has bought millions of dollars in bitcoin, The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday, citing sources familiar with the situation.
-Those holdings are worth hundreds of millions of dollars, the newspaper says. It wasn't clear whether Founders had sold any of its holdings, the report says.
-Bitcoin rises more than 11 percent to trade near $14,711, according to Coinbase.



https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/02/bitcoin-rises-after-report-says-early-facebook-investor-peter-thiel-is-buying-massive-amounts.html

Norweger
11th January 2018, 02:28 PM
We've seen how price discovery has been all but removed from gold and silver. Price discovery on a decentralized asset class that they did not create nor control is being a bit problematic for them.

I would not conclude that they do not control bitcoin yet considering that we still don't know who number 1 is. What will happen when he reveals himself is the question and what type of character is he. Bitcoin only need to do a 5x from what i've read for him to become the worlds wealthiest man. What if it is a fullblown kike? That is something which may be very real.

madfranks
11th January 2018, 03:46 PM
I would not conclude that they do not control bitcoin yet considering that we still don't know who number 1 is. What will happen when he reveals himself is the question and what type of character is he. Bitcoin only need to do a 5x from what i've read for him to become the worlds wealthiest man. What if it is a fullblown kike? That is something which may be very real.My personal opinion, I think he's either dead or he lost the wallet key. Satoshi's coins haven't moved since day 1; at this point I don't think they ever will.

A generation from now, this'll be the stuff of legends, a permanent record of bitcoins locked on the blockchain that belonged to the world's wealthiest man, with no ability for anyone to ever access them, but permanently available for all to see.

Horn
12th January 2018, 09:53 AM
Satoshi's coins will be spread as if by lottery for the unwilled to become fully vested into Nothing.

Canadians themselves will be forced to convert thru FRN exchanges.

madfranks
12th January 2018, 10:05 AM
Satoshi's coins will be spread as if by lottery for the unwilled to become fully vested into Nothing.

Canadians themselves will be forced to convert thru FRN exchanges.
I know you're joking but technically that can't happen. Nobody can access the coins.

Horn
12th January 2018, 10:15 AM
I know you're joking but technically that can't happen. Nobody can access the coins.

Satoshi can access a spread as if by lottery to anyone he cares to or picks name out of a hat to.

You're technically inept at translation, technically.

Satoshi wants the world to own nothing.

Ps. Quit calling Satoshi a nobody and download your wallet today...

madfranks
12th January 2018, 11:07 AM
Satoshi can access a spread as if by lottery to anyone he cares to or picks name out of a hat to.

You're technically inept at translation, technically.

Satoshi wants the world to own nothing.

Ps. Quit calling Satoshi a nobody and download your wallet today...Now I get it... you're Satoshi aren't you? Why didn't you tell us before? Also, when are going to spread that bitcoin wealth around?

Horn
12th January 2018, 11:38 AM
Now I get it... you're Satoshi aren't you? Why didn't you tell us before? Also, when are going to spread that bitcoin wealth around?

Its the original intent of the retained sum from get go.

Total mass not retained.

A "promo", of Not wealth. < Truth

PatColo
14th January 2018, 11:34 AM
'nother little BTC sale the past few hours, at least compared to its $19,343 high on 12/16. Bounced off 13,051 this morning.
https://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-price/

meanwhile ETH clinging near its 1,427 high of... yesterday 1/13!! :o https://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-price/

PatColo
19th January 2018, 05:13 PM
surprised not much BTC price discussion here this week, after bouncing off $9,453 late Wed 1/17. From what I've seen, futures manipulation being blamed.

change time frame to 1w, 1m etc: https://www.coindesk.com/price/

$11,547 atm.

Jewboo
19th January 2018, 07:35 PM
THIS (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/04/meltdown-spectre-worst-cpu-bugs-ever-found-affect-computers-intel-processors-security-flaw) could instantly destroy bitcoin digital wallets. Nobody seems to care...?

:(??

PatColo
19th January 2018, 08:27 PM
THIS (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/04/meltdown-spectre-worst-cpu-bugs-ever-found-affect-computers-intel-processors-security-flaw) could instantly destroy bitcoin digital wallets. Nobody seems to care...?

:(??


I'm still not a bitcoin'er, just been watching from the sidelines. So how will a BTC wallet be "destroyed", any more than Au/Ag rising & falling will destroy anyone's stash? Just the USD value of their account will change, no?

Maybe certain futures accounts on the wrong side of the volatility, thanks to margin.

edit: Oh just noticed your clickable THIS (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/04/meltdown-spectre-worst-cpu-bugs-ever-found-affect-computers-intel-processors-security-flaw)... that's why I generally BOLD my links; hard to see otherwise! So (((spectre))) eh? Yeah, that's a thought! Whole (((banking industry))) would appear similarly vulnerable though. Israel's Operation Talpiot (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Operation+Talpiot&t=ffab&ia=web)... holding the IT world hostage. :(

Ares
22nd January 2018, 09:28 AM
THIS (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/04/meltdown-spectre-worst-cpu-bugs-ever-found-affect-computers-intel-processors-security-flaw) could instantly destroy bitcoin digital wallets. Nobody seems to care...?

:(??


It is conditional.. IF the CPU is instructed to monitor for the private key which is never loaded into memory, and only used during sending a transaction. If you have a full node wallet and you encrypt the wallet even the software doesn't have access to the private key and will prompted you to unlock the wallet before being able to access the private key to send your Bitcoin.

So yes it is a possibility, but is a conditional possibility and conditions would have to be in place in order to get the private key to steal your coins.

However if you use a Hardware wallet (Ledger, Trezor etc.) Then it's not possible as the private key doesn't exist anywhere except on the hardware wallet.

Here is the good news. Ledger’s devices are not affected by these attacks.

First of all, to exploit these flaws, the attacker has to be able to run arbitrary code. As long as you only use Ledger’s embedded apps (which is strongly recommended), your Nano S / Blue is not vulnerable to these kind of attacks.
Furthermore, BOLOS (Ledger’s secure OS) runs on Secure Chips and takes advantage of Hardware security features such as MPU to ensure memory isolation between OS and apps spaces. On general purpose CPUs, the performance is the main concerns, no specific hardware-based mechanism is provided to enforce isolation
Meltdown attack takes advantage of general purpose CPU which implement ‘out of order’ execution to improve performance. The Secure Core implemented in the Secure Element of Ledger Nano S does not embed such a feature. It’s not designed for performance but for security.


https://www.ledger.fr/2018/01/04/meltdown-spectre-attacks-intel-amd-arm-risk/

PatColo
22nd January 2018, 10:23 AM
https://www.coindesk.com/price/ the 24h graph isn't loading; I find that every now & then @ coindesk. But from the text data, volatility continues!

Today's Open$11,522.86
Today's High$11,868.72
Today's Low$10,266.90
Change$-975.82
Market Cap$0.177
Supply16,819,525

EE_
22nd January 2018, 10:38 AM
GAME'S UP? Panicky Bitcoin investors struggle to withdraw cash from money exchanges as they look to ‘safe’ gold investments amid fears of cryptocurrency collapse
The cryptocurrency's value has fallen by around 40 per cent to £8,000 in just one month
By Jay Akbar
22nd January 2018, 12:00 pmUpdated: 22nd January 2018, 5:03 pm

THERE are mounting fears that Bitcoin investors will struggle to get their cash out after the cryptocurrency's value fell 40 per cent in a single month.

Many are looking to put their money in gold instead, with some European gold traders reporting a "five fold increase" in demand amid fears Bitcoin could collapse entirely.

Bitcoin owners are flocking to invest in gold amid fears the cryptocurrency may collapseREUTERS

Bitcoin owners are flocking to invest in gold amid fears the cryptocurrency may collapse
But it could be bad news for investors tied up in Bitconnect who fear they will lose their money after the controversial trader announced it was shutting down.

It assured customers they would be able to withdraw at a "recent exchange rate" but "continuous cyber-attacks" have prevented them from doing so, Fortune reports.

Concerned investors have since taken to social media to complain they fear losing anything from a few thousand dollars to their entire "family savings".

Adding to fears, some panicked investors have reportedly been tricked into handing over the contents of their cryptocurrency wallets by scammers presenting themselves as Bitconnect "customer support".

Many bitcoin investors report having difficulty in withdrawing their money before the currency collapsesREUTERS

Many bitcoin investors report having difficulty in withdrawing their money before the currency collapses
Wall Street veteran Peter Boockvar has warned of an impending "epic crash" which could slash 90 per cent off Bitcoin, currently valued at around £8,300.

He told CNBC the cryptocurrency's value could fall to between $1,000 (£718) and $3,000 (£2,154) over the next year.

This uncertainty is driving Bitcoin owners to invest in the more reliable gold, according to Daniel Marburger, director of Coininvest.

He told the Times how he sold 30kg of gold worth around £1million on "one crazy day" - January 16.

CEO of Ripple, Brad Garlinghouse, explains how he sees the future for his cryptocurrency and its rival Bitcoin
Gold traders have been inundated with requests from people wanting to invest in the more reliable precious metal insteadALAMY

Gold traders have been inundated with requests from people wanting to invest in the more reliable precious metal instead
Marburger added: "It is an unprecedented time and shows the sway from bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies back to a solid, robust investment in these uncertain times."

Investors are believed to mostly be exchanging their Bitcoins for sovereign coins of gold Britannia, one ounce of which is worth around £,1000.

The largely untraceable Bitcoins are beneficial to criminals who can use them to buy drugs and weapons on online black markets on "The Dark Web".

They are less useful for everyday consumers who cannot buy goods or, say, invest in properties using the cryptocurrency.

Other gold merchants including Goldcore reported similar trends.

Its founder Mark O'Byrne said: "They [the bitcoin sellers] told us they were concerned that the massive price appreciation was unsustainable and they got nervous about it."

One in three British millennials will have invested in a cryptocurrency by 2020, according to the London Block Exchange.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5396239/bitcoin-price-investors-selling-gold-value-collapse/

Ares
22nd January 2018, 01:19 PM
GAME'S UP? Panicky Bitcoin investors struggle to withdraw cash from money exchanges as they look to ‘safe’ gold investments amid fears of cryptocurrency collapse
The cryptocurrency's value has fallen by around 40 per cent to £8,000 in just one month
By Jay Akbar
22nd January 2018, 12:00 pmUpdated: 22nd January 2018, 5:03 pm

THERE are mounting fears that Bitcoin investors will struggle to get their cash out after the cryptocurrency's value fell 40 per cent in a single month.

Many are looking to put their money in gold instead, with some European gold traders reporting a "five fold increase" in demand amid fears Bitcoin could collapse entirely.

Bitcoin owners are flocking to invest in gold amid fears the cryptocurrency may collapseREUTERS

Bitcoin owners are flocking to invest in gold amid fears the cryptocurrency may collapse
But it could be bad news for investors tied up in Bitconnect who fear they will lose their money after the controversial trader announced it was shutting down.

It assured customers they would be able to withdraw at a "recent exchange rate" but "continuous cyber-attacks" have prevented them from doing so, Fortune reports.

Concerned investors have since taken to social media to complain they fear losing anything from a few thousand dollars to their entire "family savings".

Adding to fears, some panicked investors have reportedly been tricked into handing over the contents of their cryptocurrency wallets by scammers presenting themselves as Bitconnect "customer support".

Many bitcoin investors report having difficulty in withdrawing their money before the currency collapsesREUTERS

Many bitcoin investors report having difficulty in withdrawing their money before the currency collapses
Wall Street veteran Peter Boockvar has warned of an impending "epic crash" which could slash 90 per cent off Bitcoin, currently valued at around £8,300.

He told CNBC the cryptocurrency's value could fall to between $1,000 (£718) and $3,000 (£2,154) over the next year.

This uncertainty is driving Bitcoin owners to invest in the more reliable gold, according to Daniel Marburger, director of Coininvest.

He told the Times how he sold 30kg of gold worth around £1million on "one crazy day" - January 16.

CEO of Ripple, Brad Garlinghouse, explains how he sees the future for his cryptocurrency and its rival Bitcoin
Gold traders have been inundated with requests from people wanting to invest in the more reliable precious metal insteadALAMY

Gold traders have been inundated with requests from people wanting to invest in the more reliable precious metal instead
Marburger added: "It is an unprecedented time and shows the sway from bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies back to a solid, robust investment in these uncertain times."

Investors are believed to mostly be exchanging their Bitcoins for sovereign coins of gold Britannia, one ounce of which is worth around £,1000.

The largely untraceable Bitcoins are beneficial to criminals who can use them to buy drugs and weapons on online black markets on "The Dark Web".

They are less useful for everyday consumers who cannot buy goods or, say, invest in properties using the cryptocurrency.

Other gold merchants including Goldcore reported similar trends.

Its founder Mark O'Byrne said: "They [the bitcoin sellers] told us they were concerned that the massive price appreciation was unsustainable and they got nervous about it."

One in three British millennials will have invested in a cryptocurrency by 2020, according to the London Block Exchange.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5396239/bitcoin-price-investors-selling-gold-value-collapse/

Everything that goes up, must come down eventually. :)

Bilkymesk
4th February 2018, 06:15 PM
MadFrankLoydWright. LOL....

While I'm all for alternative means of free enterprise competitive currency, the reason I am is because the FRN is being MANIPULATED to the advantage of a small secret cabal of International Banksters. Crooks. Psychopaths.

But I'm sure as hell not going to change over to another currency that's already been shown to be MANIPULATED to the advantage of a small secret cabal of International Hacksters. And there's no telling how many other holes there are hiding in the wings.

I got out of the "free market" "cough" exactly because of this type of anonymous manipulation. The whole fucking market is nothing but a giant PUMP and DUMP.

Personally, I believe in a long term sustainable Perma-culture. A solid foundation. Stability. Integrity. An honest work ethic. A decent place to grow children into human beings.

Currently, bitcoin doesn't offer any of that. And till it does, it's just the same fucking shell game.

Personally, I think bitcoin has numerous benefits and advantages over using localized currency. Some people become Bitcoin billionaires because of their investment, they invest much in bitcoin mining. I am not sure if they use bitcoin cloud mining for their investment but personally, I tried and the calculator was really helpful.

PatColo
4th February 2018, 09:17 PM
^ Bilky, U have a personal creator/owner/etc relationship with the link you dropped in your first GSUS post above?

I came here to note, BTC bounced off a $7876 low so far today (Sun). https://www.coindesk.com/price/

ETH $834 atm.

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StreetsOfGold
19th February 2018, 11:41 AM
LCC is on a tear and it is FREE if you were SMART enough to have had LITECOIN before the fork

https://litecoinca.sh

9703

EE_
19th February 2018, 11:46 AM
Why do they call it cash, when it's anything but cash? Shouldn't this and Bitcoin be called cashless?

Horn
19th February 2018, 01:44 PM
Why do they call it cash, when it's anything but cash? Shouldn't this and Bitcoin be called cashless?

Cause its like you're a "stakeholder" though in this case there are No steaks.

PatColo
15th March 2018, 07:48 AM
bitcoin back in a funk; bounced off $7,676.52 overnight. https://www.coindesk.com/price switch to 1 week & 1 & 3 month views. Not this low since early Feb.

PatColo
8th April 2018, 08:11 AM
BTC bouncing around $6500 - 7500 range for past 10 days. https://www.coindesk.com/price

Sofia on Sage of Quay radio. She comments (http://aboutthesky.com/podcasts):

Folks, cryptocurrency is something to be pondered deeply before we all dive in. It is serving as the carrot to blockchain technology, which will change human relations and interactions in a profound way. Please listen:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HBAcg4tpYNo/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLChXMUgUvKlsPQYMrS9xsXg_T2mMg 1:20:35
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBAcg4tpYNo) Sage of Quay Radio - Sofia Smallstorm - Crypto, Blockchains and Inner Standing (March 2018) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBAcg4tpYNo)

2.4K views1 week ago

EE_
8th April 2018, 09:54 AM
BTC bouncing around $6500 - 7500 range for past 10 days. https://www.coindesk.com/price

Sofia on Sage of Quay radio. She comments (http://aboutthesky.com/podcasts):

Folks, cryptocurrency is something to be pondered deeply before we all dive in. It is serving as the carrot to blockchain technology, which will change human relations and interactions in a profound way. Please listen:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HBAcg4tpYNo/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLChXMUgUvKlsPQYMrS9xsXg_T2mMg 1:20:35
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBAcg4tpYNo) Sage of Quay Radio - Sofia Smallstorm - Crypto, Blockchains and Inner Standing (March 2018) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBAcg4tpYNo)

2.4K views1 week ago

And you all stood in line for it

PatColo
8th April 2018, 10:35 AM
And you all stood in line for it


WHO all?? :|~

Still not a crypto owner here. I figure I'll inevitably take a little pilot position... any day, or year now!!!

I won't say "we all..." but I know many of us here, like me, sat on our metals through Apr/May 2011, silver $49.xx... :D

Horn
8th April 2018, 11:11 AM
There yah go, Pat

Buy some Bitcoin so that you Can't even sit on it forever.

I guess u could sit your grandkids on your knee and have them hold your usb stick.

Huh ??? !

EE_
8th April 2018, 11:36 AM
WHO all?? :|~

Still not a crypto owner here. I figure I'll inevitably take a little pilot position... any day, or year now!!!

I won't say "we all..." but I know many of us here, like me, sat on our metals through Apr/May 2011, silver $49.xx... :D

Did you get chipped? (iPhone)

PatColo
8th April 2018, 12:34 PM
Did you get chipped? (iPhone)

got then lost an android last year-- kept it in airplane mode in an EMF blocking pouch. When on the grid all unneeded access permissions denied. then back in the pouch:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_2_7/140-2628973-6189867?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=emf+blocker+for+cell+phone
^ recommend finding your phone carrier/pouch, then search up the maker's site and buy direct from them. Just use amzn for search-n-sort then kick em to the curb.

I had a blockitpocket.com (https://www.blockitpocket.com/products-cat.html)pouch, thumbs up.

Oh yeah, not sure about the other carriers, but I used Tmobile, paid cash for everything from initial sim card, to every month in one of their outlet stores; never needed an ID at any time. Fake "john sixpack" type name.

no mobile atm; can't promise I won't get another & "manage it" the same way though.:cool:

Neuro
5th May 2018, 10:23 AM
Bitcoin is slowly coming out of its winter slumber it’s up again at $10,000. I think it’s getting ready for a new mania phase, but look into the other crypto’s as well, like Ethereum, Litecoin, and my personal favorite bitcoin cash. What is different this time vs 3-4 years ago is that the alts didn’t lose larger %-ages as the market went down, and while bitcoin has recovered around 50% since its low. The alts has gone up 100-200%. I think it is likely that bitcoin may be dethroned within a year or so. Good contestants are Eth and Bch

StreetsOfGold
6th May 2018, 05:41 AM
other crypto’s as well, like Ethereum, Litecoin

Litecoin all the way - I sold silver to get some and have done very well (can always buy back the silver)

Cryptos are "baked into the cake" , they WILL take over and replace the fiat system, there is NO doubt
Those chips they have been putting into credit cards now for almost 2 years are needed to speak to the lightning network which is merging with the SWIFT processing system and the lighting network is for processing cvryptos, in particular, Litecoin

Others to consider, OMG, VERT, PPT, BCH and ETH

PatColo
24th May 2018, 03:00 AM
BTC low $7,272 so far this morning, flirting with its < $7K lows for this year. https://www.coindesk.com/price/

StreetsOfGold
24th May 2018, 06:05 AM
Crypto NEWS is BETTER now than ever.
We went from Bitcoin is a scam, Jamie Dimon (a few months ago) to him HIRING a guy to HEAD UP his CRYPTO department thhis week.
The average market cap this time last year was around 15 billion, now, even though it's down significantly, is still over 300 billion and usually around 400 billion

Nothing but GOOD news for Cryptos

Horn
24th May 2018, 06:46 AM
Neuro said it were testing 10k on May 5th, then Pat Colo said testing lows of 7k on May 24th.

How can anyone take Bitcoin seriously?

madfranks
24th May 2018, 07:22 AM
Neuro said it were testing 10k on May 5th, then Pat Colo said testing lows of 7k on May 24th.

How can anyone take Bitcoin seriously?When you stick a quarter in a slot machine, are you taking it seriously that you're going to win the jackpot? No, it's a gamble plain and simple. If you're lucky, you might make some money, but if you're not, you lose.

Horn
24th May 2018, 07:41 AM
When you stick a quarter in a slot machine, are you taking it seriously that you're going to win the jackpot? No, it's a gamble plain and simple. If you're lucky, you might make some money, but if you're not, you lose.

Its not gambling, if its not serious. All that's wrong with the world, not serious, no risk, no reward.

Let's stripmine an Ancient Indian burial site for tea, then Short silver and oil..

madfranks
24th May 2018, 10:05 AM
Then take it seriously as a gamble. It's not a serious money (yet) for this exact reason.

Horn
24th May 2018, 12:52 PM
Then take it seriously as a gamble.

In this story, am I jesus immediately before the crucifixion or just a confused apostle?

Horn
24th May 2018, 03:10 PM
http://i.imgur.com/p0vbVcg.jpg

Franks goes to vegas

madfranks
24th May 2018, 03:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/p0vbVcg.jpg

Franks goes to vegas

And so far I'm winning. (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞

Horn
24th May 2018, 03:58 PM
they called him fast finga franky, his dime slot form was flawless.

Dachsie
29th May 2018, 08:35 AM
Here is quote from January 2018 interview by E. Michael Jones...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Z3_WyPIe4 interview was in January of 2018
21:31 to 24:29


“Cryptocurrency is a contradiction in terms.

Currency means this can be used for all debts, public and private.

Okay, this piece of paper, whatever it is, this can be used, while

Cryptocurrency, if its not public, in other words, if its not a coin in some sense, which means a coin is a piece of metal which has the emperor or the kind or the sovereign stamped on it, the image of the sovereign, which means that the state backs up this currency.

Well, obviously crypto currencies are not backed by the state so therefore they are not currencies.

So, what is it? What is BitCoin?

BitCoin is, well, its like a tulip bulb, actually.

Its like gold.

It’s obvious it’s something that has value because people buy it. And the more people that buy it, the more its value increases.

And if people really get behind it, what you’re seeing is what I think we saw, at least in the last couple of weeks, a bubble.

I think we had the BitCoin bubble. And now, what you see now, you saw in it a few weeks ago. There was an article about the Winklevost twins becoming BitCoin billionaires.

This is known as the “suckers market”.

When you see article like this, usually they’re on the cover of NewsWeek, like these ten people became millionaires by selling real estate. What they’re really saying is ‘the big players want to get out of the real estate market, and at this point, the big players want to get out of the BitCoin market but they can’t get out unless somebody buys their BitCoin. So here’s a way for you to buy their BitCoin so they’re not going to have to dump a billion dollars’ worth of merchandise on the market and crash the price.

So I think BitCoin is – it’s like gold.

It’s not a currency.

It is not money.

It cannot be used as money but it can be a store of value as long as people keep bidding up the price.

As soon as that stops, you’re left with nothing.

You’re left with a tulip bulb.

That was the first bubble – the Tulip Mania – in Holland. "

madfranks
29th May 2018, 01:23 PM
People are still comparing bitcoin to tulip bulbs? That point has been discussed and debunked like thousands of times already.

Dachsie
29th May 2018, 01:44 PM
So point me to a debunking of that on this forum, please. Seems like a valid point to me.

It works just like other volatile equities markets and one can lose whatever money invested.

Neuro
30th May 2018, 12:21 AM
You can eat tulip bulbs, but you cant divide them in Satoshis and keep their value...

PatColo
12th June 2018, 09:42 PM
Noticed yest BTC had dumped < $7K over the weekend.

Then today (Tue) a stab down to $6530, breaking former support there in Feb & again in Apr.

I don't follow BTC news; & never pulled the trigger on buying. What are the junkees attributing this drop to?! https://www.coindesk.com/price/

StreetsOfGold
13th June 2018, 06:16 AM
What are the junkees attributing this drop to?!

The consensus is price manipulation, (like all markets) since cryptos are NOT going away.
Bring it WAY down and then buy it up

PatColo
13th June 2018, 06:50 AM
^ AFAIK there's not really a physical futures market for BTC, where big leverage can be used, & buy/sell limit orders, shorting etc; so this is just straight waves of fully funded buying/selling?

I've heard of these "Crypto mining" blackbox computers; know almost nothing about them.


Noticed yest BTC had dumped < $7K over the weekend.

Then today (Tue) a stab down to $6530, breaking former support there in Feb & again in Apr.

I don't follow BTC news; & never pulled the trigger on buying. What are the junkees attributing this drop to?! https://www.coindesk.com/price/

made another stab downward overnight; bounced off $6384 low, still searching for a new bottom.

PatColo
23rd July 2018, 12:19 PM
BTC $7,758 atm; pulled out of its sub-7K funk, with sub-6K dips, of the past ~6 weeks. https://www.coindesk.com/price

ETH $456

StreetsOfGold
23rd July 2018, 08:26 PM
The "derivative" for Bitcoin (AKA an ETF) is coming and will most likely be approved this year

Neuro
23rd July 2018, 09:51 PM
The "derivative" for Bitcoin (AKA an ETF) is coming and will most likely be approved this year

There are several already including ETF’s...

PatColo
25th July 2018, 03:31 PM
BTC $7,758 atm; pulled out of its sub-7K funk, with sub-6K dips, of the past ~6 weeks. https://www.coindesk.com/price

ETH $456

more big ups since that ^ Mon 7/23 post above,

btc (high)
$8,479.33

eth (high)
$482.98

PatColo
8th August 2018, 11:40 AM
$6133 low today https://www.coindesk.com/price/ << click those different time buttons above the chart to see the ride

madfranks
8th August 2018, 12:12 PM
I think the ultimate low will be between $2-4k, and that it'll take another 12-18 months to get there. But it'll consolidate and prepare for another takeoff, next time up to $50k or so.

StreetsOfGold
8th August 2018, 03:48 PM
I think the ultimate low will be between $2-4k, and that it'll take another 12-18 months to get there. But it'll consolidate and prepare for another takeoff, next time up to $50k or so.


My Brother is a very successful financial advisor and estate planner, one of his (expensive) go to guys is Porter Stansberry (Jew) and is extremely conservative, just recently, as in last week he is NOW pro crypto and is giving it a BUY signal. Take that for what's it's worth.

singular_me
4th October 2018, 01:20 PM
... here we go AGAIN
=============
Bitcoin Price Manipulated by Cryptocurrency Trading Bots: WSJ
..... Stefan Qin, the managing partner at cryptocurrency hedge fund Virgil Capital, uses its own bots to battle “enemy” bots on dozens of cryptocurrency exchanges worldwide. His company has built error handing functions to identify activities that are potentially illegal, referencing the crypto sector as the “Wild West of Crypto.”......... Manipulation’ Has Defenders... Some bitcoin supporters who oppose to cryptocurrency regulation don’t consider market manipulation as wrong and openly support it....... He told the WSJ that he thinks it is pointless to outlaw manipulating digital currencies. He said it would be better to provide sophisticated manipulation tools to small traders as a way to level the playing field. If everyone manipulates, no one manipulates, he said... FULL ARTICLE: https://www-ccn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.ccn.com/bitcoin-price-manipulated-by-cryptocurrency-trading-bots-wsj/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co m&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ccn.com%2Fbitcoin-price-manipulated-by-cryptocurrency-trading-bots-wsj%2F

'Market manipulation 101': 'Wolf of Wall Street'-style 'pump and dump' scams plague cryptocurrency markets. Nov. 14, 2017
https://www.businessinsider.com/ico-cryptocurrency-pump-and-dump-telegram-2017-11?r=UK&IR=T

singular_me
4th October 2018, 01:23 PM
The meritocrats have comprehended the nature of reality since the dawn of times (and sorry it was not discovered by the bronze age populations but way before them), and that to interfere with people's unpredictable perceptions, money is the best tool ever to herd and control behaviors. From there, it is easy to conceive that money was always meant to enslave a clueless majority.

===============


Bitcoin Price Manipulated by Cryptocurrency Trading Bots: WSJ
..... Stefan Qin, the managing partner at cryptocurrency hedge fund Virgil Capital, uses its own bots to battle “enemy” bots on dozens of cryptocurrency exchanges worldwide. His company has built error handing functions to identify activities that are potentially illegal, referencing the crypto sector as the “Wild West of Crypto.”......... Manipulation’ Has Defenders... Some bitcoin supporters who oppose to cryptocurrency regulation don’t consider market manipulation as wrong and openly support it....... He told the WSJ that he thinks it is pointless to outlaw manipulating digital currencies. He said it would be better to provide sophisticated manipulation tools to small traders as a way to level the playing field. If everyone manipulates, no one manipulates, he said... FULL ARTICLE: https://www-ccn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.ccn.com/bitcoin-price-manipulated-by-cryptocurrency-trading-bots-wsj/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co m&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ccn.com%2Fbitcoin-price-manipulated-by-cryptocurrency-trading-bots-wsj%2F

'Market manipulation 101': 'Wolf of Wall Street'-style 'pump and dump' scams plague cryptocurrency markets. Nov. 14, 2017
https://www.businessinsider.com/ico-cryptocurrency-pump-and-dump-telegram-2017-11?r=UK&IR=

mamboni
4th October 2018, 05:07 PM
BTC like all cryptocurrencies is a token, an abstract token representing another abstraction, digital currency. It has utility for it's portability. But anyone who thinks it is private wealth is fooling himself. Blockchain guarantees integrity and it also guarantees an audit trail. Cyrptocurrency has zero intrinsic value. Its currency value represents pure speculation. Also, while the number of BTC is limited by an algorithm, there is no limit to how many cryptocurrencies can be created (i.e. BTC-blue BTC-yellow BTC-green etc). IMHO, the cryptocurrency is a psyop designed to provide an unlimited liquidity dry-well and a killing field for harvesting speculators. I don't own cryptocurrency because I don't speculate. And I don't own stocks and bonds because all markets are captive to the manipulations of central bankers, large institutions and computer trading programs. I save my wealth in physical metal because I can hold it in my hand, it is fungible, convertable and it's fundamentals protect my wealth from confiscation through inflation and devaluation and bank bail-ins. I don't begrudge those who make money in cryptocurrency or profit from it's portability. But understand that you are speculating with a virtual token that can vanish in a nanoseconds. I don't need the stress and worry and readily forgo the potential profits [and losses].

singular_me
9th October 2018, 09:15 AM
the usual scenario now... that is it, they got what ((they)) wanted, fear and perceptions are in charge now... as it usually is the case with any currencies... welcome to reality

That is why we need a world without money, it is impossible to protect one self, unless one is part of the top 1%, because they are the ones deciding of what goes boom and bust
--------------------
Oct 9, 2018
IMF Issues Stark Warning Over Bitcoin And Crypto 'Rapid' Growth
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2018/10/09/imf-issues-stark-warning-over-bitcoin-and-crypto-rapid-growth/#1b66e53e3544

mamboni
16th November 2018, 09:35 PM
My Brother is a very successful financial advisor and estate planner, one of his (expensive) go to guys is Porter Stansberry (Jew) and is extremely conservative, just recently, as in last week he is NOW pro crypto and is giving it a BUY signal. Take that for what's it's worth.

Perhaps caution and suspicion are advisable when a (((financial advisor))) suddenly recommends cryptocurrency as investment. To wit: there is an enormous kosher fly in the crypto ointment - income taxes. Fast forward to 30:40 in the video wherein Schiff shares a true story involving a crypto investor that it behooves one to hear:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxCDCyo7Lpc

StreetsOfGold
17th November 2018, 08:34 AM
Perhaps caution and suspicion are advisable when a (((financial advisor))) suddenly recommends cryptocurrency as investment. To wit: there is an enormous kosher fly in the crypto ointment - income taxes. Fast forward to 30:40 in the video wherein Schiff shares a true story involving a crypto investor that it behooves one to hear:

Gold salesman Schiff is one of the most outspoken Anti Crytpo voices out there so. Yet, he just can't help but not talk about it.
This (customized) saying comes to mind when I think of Schiff and crypto together


"First he ignored it, then he laughed it, now he ridicules it, then it will win."

This "kid" (his example) might be able to get back into crypto and make all the "owed" taxes back in a month, but he never mentioned that possibility but only focused on how LONG he would have to work a TRADITIONAL "job" to pay it back.
He said Bitcoin is worth less than it was a year ago but it's worth WAY more than 2, 3, 4, etc years ago but in typical Peter Schiff fashion he conveniently forgot to mention this and only keeps you focused on the negatives instead of the myriad of positives.

Horn
17th November 2018, 09:04 AM
but in typical Peter Schiff fashion he conveniently forgot to mention this and only keeps you focused on the negatives instead of the myriad of positives

Any kid going from 5k to a million sounds pretty positive.

mamboni
17th November 2018, 12:25 PM
Any kid going from 5k to a million sounds pretty positive.

Seems to be the one consistent winner is the IRS.

PatColo
24th November 2018, 05:18 PM
C R A S H :o

$3,782 atm https://www.coindesk.com/price/bitcoin

select 1week, & 1month (above chart). Really started falling out of bed 11/13, 11 days ago.

madfranks
25th November 2018, 05:15 PM
I think the ultimate low will be between $2-4k, and that it'll take another 12-18 months to get there. But it'll consolidate and prepare for another takeoff, next time up to $50k or so.

So far so good, I’m waiting for a bit more dip before I buy back in. The next run up will blow everything before it away!

PatColo
7th December 2018, 09:44 AM
C R A S H :o

$3,782 atm https://www.coindesk.com/price/bitcoin

select 1week, & 1month (above chart). Really started falling out of bed 11/13, 11 days ago.


ditto above ^ but we're blazing a new 2018 low today; 24-hour low atm: $3,214.83

patting self on back for not taking a pilot position, as tempted, up in the $6-7K area where BTC hovered for months. :)


twatter thread by a popular Qanon preacherman; 150+ comments already in 40 minutes:
https://twitter.com/StormIsUponUs/status/1071087269241487360

"I wish Q would tell us whether to sell or hold our bitcoin."

PatColo
15th December 2018, 01:48 PM
ditto above ^ but we're blazing a new 2018 low today; 24-hour low atm: $3,214.83

patting self on back for not taking a pilot position, as tempted, up in the $6-7K area where BTC hovered for months. :)


twatter thread by a popular Qanon preacherman; 150+ comments already in 40 minutes:
https://twitter.com/StormIsUponUs/status/1071087269241487360

"I wish Q would tell us whether to sell or hold our bitcoin."


BTC cutting new 2018 lows again today; 24-hour low $3,122.
https://www.coindesk.com/price/bitcoin

another BTC thread from @StormIsUponUs, 62+ comments growing.
https://twitter.com/StormIsUponUs/status/1074038334014386176




Joe M‏ @StormIsUponUs (https://twitter.com/StormIsUponUs)
I have no idea what $btc (https://twitter.com/search?q=%24btc&src=ctag) will do. Before I knew globalists were being torn down, I thought it was a safe haven. Now with #PatriotsInControl (https://twitter.com/hashtag/PatriotsInControl?src=hash), and the coming gold standard, I'm not sure if its needed, or if it will spike during the transition. NOBODY KNOWS even if they say they do.
12:27 PM - 15 Dec 2018




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PatColo
2nd February 2019, 08:21 AM
Sean/SGT Report interviews this crypto dood "DavinciJ"; new to me but apparently he's been jootubing https://www.youtube.com/user/davincij15/videos since ~2010 re BTC; first buys were <$1; multi-millionaire now. Recommended taking some profits last Dec '17, when he claims he grabbed ~half his capital. Now he's hoping to accumulate <$3K.

Re the title, I've long since tired of the "USD collapse! silver to da moon!" predictions. But listening now, & that noise is a small part of the discussion,

45m:
BITCOIN MILLIONAIRE PREDICTS SILVER WILL BE WORTH MORE THAN GOLD! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8MGirraAUI)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8MGirraAUI

RatHoler
3rd February 2019, 12:56 PM
^
Are there any guests that SGT or Greg Hunter have interviewed that have been correct about precious metals, specifically silver?

Listen to none of them. I'm tired of hearing about the COMEX default, backwardation, gold/silver ratio, solar panels blah blah blah. Many of us here (including myself) fell for the bullshit story that silver was going to triple digits.

There is a guy that has been more correct than any of the YouTube stars and he is the most hated analyst in the space. Check out his presentation from a few weeks ago. He thinks gold could go to $2000-$2200 in 5-7 years. He mentions silver at only $25-$30 in that time frame. I bet Christian's predictions will be much closer to reality than any of the silver clowns on SGT or USA Watchdog. Would you rather listen to an (((insider))) or douchebags like Morgan, Holter, Martenson, Kirby, and countless others?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5a8gTVdKDs&list=LLv5idR45V2Fb8kRZElXlnNQ&index=2&t=22s

PatColo
5th February 2019, 02:44 PM
I'm tired of hearing about the COMEX default, backwardation, gold/silver ratio, solar panels blah blah blah. Many of us here (including myself) fell for the bullshit story that silver was going to triple digits.

ur forgetting the COT report/graph; tea-leaves suggest next move = POW! TO DA MOON!! any second now! :D


https://i1.wp.com/dollarcollapse.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Silver-COT-chart-July-14-2017.jpg?ssl=1

GoSi93
13th April 2019, 05:04 PM
Spreadsheet that helps you track your net gain for each transaction and your total net gain. It also keeps track of how much you had paid for each bitcoin: https://u.to/HSseFQ

Neuro
14th April 2019, 01:08 AM
^
Are there any guests that SGT or Greg Hunter have interviewed that have been correct about precious metals, specifically silver?

Listen to none of them. I'm tired of hearing about the COMEX default, backwardation, gold/silver ratio, solar panels blah blah blah. Many of us here (including myself) fell for the bullshit story that silver was going to triple digits.

There is a guy that has been more correct than any of the YouTube stars and he is the most hated analyst in the space. Check out his presentation from a few weeks ago. He thinks gold could go to $2000-$2200 in 5-7 years. He mentions silver at only $25-$30 in that time frame. I bet Christian's predictions will be much closer to reality than any of the silver clowns on SGT or USA Watchdog. Would you rather listen to an (((insider))) or douchebags like Morgan, Holter, Martenson, Kirby, and countless others?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5a8gTVdKDs&list=LLv5idR45V2Fb8kRZElXlnNQ&index=2&t=22s

But wilver will go to da moooon! It’s just in its hundred year dozy. It tends to do that. But when it wakes up! Silver bulls are almost never correct, but when they are... DANG!!!

StreetsOfGold
14th April 2019, 08:12 AM
how much you had paid for each bitcoin

99+% of everyone in the world has zero or LESS than 1 Bitcoin so I find this particular statement rather amusing as who is needing to find out how much you paid for EACH Bitcoin (as if you have so many you need to keep track of THEM)

LOL

PatColo
28th June 2019, 03:01 AM
Snowden: ‘The Most Important Thing Bitcoin Is Missing Right Now Is Privacy’ (https://www.coindesk.com/snowden-the-most-important-thing-bitcoin-is-missing-right-now-is-privacy)

Jun 27, 2019 at 14:00 UTC
Updated Jun 27, 2019 at 14:25 UTC

Bitcoin’s biggest flaw is its lack of privacy, said Edward Snowden at the Bitcoin 2019 conference.


The cybersecurity expert noted the importance of privacy as a source of liberty.

“The lack of privacy is an existential threat to bitcoin. Is the only protection users have from political change,” Snowden said.

Snowden also stated that he was a bitcoin supporter and even used an encrypted service that he paid for with bitcoins in order to communicate with journalists in 2013.

Threats to and From Exchanges

Talking about his experience being pursued by the United States government for sharing NSA data, Snowden pointed out the unrealistic expectations from regulators who want to be in control of cryptocurrencies.

Going in-depth about the regulations from banks and governments, Snowden also exposed the necessity for exchanges to defend their users’ privacy. He fears that if one of the exchanges gave up information, soon all of them would follow.

“If you actually go into the terms of big exchanges like Coinbase, they only want to cover themselves. They expose you, they close your account and keep your funds,” Snowden said.

He also disliked the development of financial cryptocurrency services, claiming that many of them are starting to look too much like banks.
“Something unforgivable is that you guys keep developing services trying to be banks, and the world doesn’t need more banks,” he said.

Leave No Trace

Snowden also talked about the Shadow Brokers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadow_Brokers), a group of hackers that auctioned NSA information in exchange for bitcoin in 2016.

He noted that the hacking case was the starting point of a governmental war on cryptocurrencies. In short, he said, regulation doesn’t work unless it becomes overly intrusive.

“If tracking bitcoin was possible then the NSA would have caught them,” he said. He said Satoshi Nakamoto was in the same position: he could navigate the system and leave no trace.

“If you know how the system works, you can still have privacy,” he said.

Edward Snowden speaks at Bitcoin 2019 via video link, photo by Diana Aguilar

https://www.coindesk.com/snowden-the-most-important-thing-bitcoin-is-missing-right-now-is-privacy

monty
14th July 2019, 06:38 AM
You bitcoin/block chain enthusiasts ight be interested in reading this legislation report.

https://twitter.com/NaegeleLAW/status/1149679904717336578?s=09


The final version of the #Liechtenstein #BlockchainAct, along with the translated Government consultation report, is now available in English. Visit our blog to read more at https://t.co/yX42EccMV6

The direct link to the translation can be found here: https://t.co/q6ji46Ix8o https://t.co/8HJoOFqXzu

PatColo
26th September 2019, 10:57 AM
BTC's taken a nice stinky dump beginning Tue; so-far low today = a bounce off $7,757
https://www.coindesk.com/price/bitcoin


this article pub'd Tue 9/24, despite russia-insider.com's usual misleading as if it's fresh:


The Empire Strikes Back: Bitcoin Crashes, Dems Threaten Impeachment, Banks Gorge on Fed Cash
(https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/empire-strikes-back-bitcoin-crashes-dems-threaten-impeachment-banks-gorge-fed-cash/ri27764)
Tom Luongo (https://russia-insider.com/en/tom-luongo) 3 hours ago | 1100 words

StreetsOfGold
28th September 2019, 08:19 AM
There was a drop in the Hash-rate of BTC by 40%.
It's back after a day and higher than ever and no one knows why.....yet.
The price, however has not gone back up as of this post.
This, however shows the weakness of the BTC network (POW) and it's reliance on hash-rates to keep the network going.

Thus enters Ripple's XRP, (POS) the greatest digital asset ever created and the coin of the NWO. Never subject to these kinds of issues!

PatColo
28th September 2019, 10:06 AM
There was a drop in the Hash-rate of BTC by 40%.
It's back after a day and higher than ever and no one knows why.....yet.
The price, however has not gone back up as of this post.
This, however shows the weakness of the BTC network (POW) and it's reliance on hash-rates to keep the network going.

Thus enters Ripple's XRP, (POS) the greatest digital asset ever created and the coin of the NWO. Never subject to these kinds of issues!


looked that shite up, https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com/mining/hash-rate/ clear as mud right? I guess important if ur a miner...

this was interesting,




Bitcoin Mining Farms Are Flourishing on the Ruins of Soviet Industry in Siberia (https://russia-insider.com/en/bitcoin-mining-farms-are-flourishing-ruins-soviet-industry-siberia/ri27584)

... Soviet-era factories are enjoying a second life as cryptocurrency mining facilities. Siberia’s big hydropower plants (another ... Siberia is now fueling another energy-hungry industry: bitcoin mining. Several large mining farms have set up shop ...
Anna Baydakova (https://russia-insider.com/en/authors/anna-baydakova) 08.09.2019

PatColo
28th September 2019, 11:34 PM
A snip from this Nov '18 article by Allison Weir (IfAmericansKnew.org)

Thanks to Government Inaction, Israel Has Become a Haven for International Scammers and Fraud (https://www.mintpressnews.com/thanks-to-government-inaction-israel-has-become-a-haven-for-international-scammers-and-fraud/251883/)

One analysis shows that one swindle alone has brought in over a billion dollars and employs 5,000 people. Another scam is predicted to be “the next major driver of the Israeli economy.”


by Alison Weir (https://www.mintpressnews.com/author/alison-weir/)

[...]



Bitcoin: “The Next Big thing”

A June 2018 TOI (https://www.timesofisrael.com/cryptocurrency-related-crime-will-surpass-all-other-cyberattacks-in-2018-expert/) article reports that experts have been touting cryptocurrency and blockchain as “the next major driver of the Israeli economy.”

This would be a highly questionable driver. As TOI reports, “It is unclear how much of the activity in this new high-tech field is legitimate, how much is mere hype, and how much is outright fraud perpetrated by malevolent actors, including transnational criminal organizations.”

In December, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency (JTA) published an article announcing: “Bitcoin Fraud Could Be the Next Big Thing for Swindlers in Israel (https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Bitcoin-fraud-could-be-the-next-big-thing-for-swindlers-in-Israel-519755).” The article, published in Israel’s Jerusalem Post, reported: “According to fraud experts, Israel is shaping up to be a hub for cryptocurrency swindling.”

“Fraudsters,” JTA said, “have begun to take advantage of a cryptocurrency bonanza with a variety (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/feds-shut-down-allegedly-fraudulent-cryptocurrency-offering/)of nefarious (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/12/12/us-regulator-warns-fraud-manipulation-amid-cryptocurrency-craze/) schemes (https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/common-cryptocurrency-scams/).”

A former IRS special agent who focused on international fraud predicts that this will mushroom and that Israeli binary options swindlers will spearhead a “massive cryptocurrency fraud.”

An Israeli expert who helps victims of financial scams says: “More or less every binary options company we know of now has a cryptocurrency platform as well. I’m already getting calls from victims, but most people have yet to even realize they’ve been defrauded.”

An Israeli analyst on threat intelligence reports that “not a day goes by without our hearing about a new ICO scam or mining attack.” On November 8th, [I]Ha’aretz (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/explained-the-bitcoin-scam-in-israeli-banks-payment-apps-1.6635982)reported: “Despite complaints to the authorities, users haven’t been warned about cybercriminals who swindle sellers of bitcoin using popular payment apps.”

According to Tel Aviv University Economics professor Neil Gandal, “It’s possible for a small number of actors to manipulate things,” TOI reports. Gandel says that Bitcoin’s first major price spike was likely caused by a single person, and a recent University of Texas paper (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/technology/bitcoin-price-manipulation.html) found that Bitcoin’s more recent price spike (http://fortune.com/2017/12/17/bitcoin-record-high-short-of-20000/) was also caused by price manipulation.

TOI reports: “Thousands of Israeli binary options operatives have been looking for new work, and the cryptocurrency field, with its lack of regulation, potential for easy money and libertarian ethos, is a magnet for such individuals.”

According to TOI, “Experts estimate that there are more than 100 fraudulent forex, CFDs, cryptocurrency, insurance, locksmith and Green Card lottery boiler rooms in the country.”

There have been massive demonstrations in Israel against corruption at high levels of government, and two police probes have targeted Prime Minister Netanyahu. A reformer warned (https://www.jta.org/2017/12/21/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/bitcoin-fraud-could-be-the-next-big-thing-for-swindlers-in-israel) of “a foul tsunami rising up in an ocean of corruption that threatens to drown the state of Israel. This is organized crime; crime families and Israeli mafia who are gaining control of local government and from there gradually taking over the central government and the nerve centers of Israeli society.”

In December, the Israeli legislature proposed regulation to ban (https://seekingalpha.com/news/3319979-israel-latest-crack-bitcoin) companies trading in bitcoin from operating on the Tel Aviv stock exchange, suggesting that Israeli citizens will eventually be protected from the scam, as they were from binary options swindlers.

However, It is not known when or if Israel will take action against Israeli cryptocurrency scams that target people in other countries.

For now, events create an impression that the Israeli government is tolerating, and thus perhaps even tacitly encouraging, financial swindles that originate within its borders and devastate individual savings and lives around the world.

The fact that the U.S. government gives Israel over $10 million per day (https://ifamericaknew.org/stat/usaid.html), and that this is about to go even higher (https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-gets-far-more-than-38-billion-under-the-new-deal/), doesn’t seem to protect Americans from being targeted by Israeli financial rackets.

For how much longer?



https://www.mintpressnews.com/thanks-to-government-inaction-israel-has-become-a-haven-for-international-scammers-and-fraud/251883/

PatColo
24th November 2019, 12:11 PM
BTC technical breakdown today; bounced off $6,920 so far

Spun Gold
24th November 2019, 03:29 PM
Down Baba Down... ready to buy at the low!! hehehe
My first bitcoin cost me $4.00 dollars

Neuro
25th November 2019, 04:09 AM
Down Baba Down... ready to buy at the low!! hehehe
My first bitcoin cost me $4.00 dollars

Good price! What’s your buy in now?

PatColo
16th January 2020, 08:54 PM
TRUNews Doc & Ed @ some crypto conference, 55m:

Monetary Mayhem: Crypto Revolution vs. Bankrupt Banksters (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckjRoZRLz8o)
4.3K views
4 hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckjRoZRLz8o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckjRoZRLz8o

Horn
6th March 2020, 03:10 PM
Bitcoin looks alot like a soybean chart.

BrewTech
6th March 2020, 05:57 PM
Bitcoin looks alot like a soybean chart.


What does that mean?