Why I'm NOT thankful for "your service"

[Hillbilly]

When I here people go into that "Thank you for your service" line every time they meet some one who was in the military it makes me a little sick. I was raised by a Wacked out Psychotic Vietnam Vet who, when he came home proceeded to turn the lives of his family and friends upside down then decided he wanted to get married and start his own family (this is where I come into the picture) and proceed to ruin mine and my mothers lives, with is bat-shit crazy outbursts and morbid psychotic sense of humor.

He would tell me all the vile things that he had seen and done in the war, mind you I was only 8 years old when he started telling me about the sounds people make when they loose a hand or other body part and how funny it is the way they jump around. He would pull over to the side of the road when he saw a car accident and make me look at the mangled bodies, then we would just get back in our car and drive away. I can still here the pleas for help from some of them, but we did not help them.

My Cousin came home from the gulf and fucked up his kids in much the same way. Now I have nightmares and PTSD from being raised like this, so no I'm not one bit fucking thankful for your service. Why anyone wants to go fight a war for bankers and then come home and fuck up their family I don't know. I'm tired of the "Gag order" that everyone is made to feel if they "Where not there" or you "don't know what we are talking about" you better believe I do I've been there for 20+ plus years and it will be with me for the rest of my life.

[sirgonzo420]

Well then it sounds as if you were "serviced"... in the agricultural sense.

[zap]

Sorry.... and thanks for sharing your story....

But its not just the kid of a " vet " that gets screwed up, I don't know anybody who's parents haven't screwed them up in one way, or another.

I'm just wondering how I am going to screw my kid up !

[mamboni]

I got two things to say to you:

1. Don't generalize your father's bad behaviour to all veterans. That's not being fair minded.
2. As the James Garner character said to the young boy in Murphy's Romance "Just because your father is a jerk don't mean you have to be one son."

My old man went through hell in WWII - almost died of starvation. He killed a lot of men. He diffused bombs and mines. My mother told me all of this. He never talked much about it, except when he had his buddies from the war over the house circa 1959-64. He didn't dump his emotional baggage on us kids - he swallowed it and lived with it. That's when I learned what it means to be a man.

[Neuro]

Sorry.... and thanks for sharing your story....

But its not just the kid of a " vet " that gets screwed up, I don't know anybody who's parents haven't screwed them up in one way, or another.

I'm just wondering how I am going to screw my kid up !
Don't go too soft or too hard on her, and she'll turn out allright I think! Of course it is harder for you because you lost your husband, but from what I am reading you are doing a good job! It ain't easy!

[Santa]

Thanking all veterans for their service just because they "served" is a huge generalization as well, and I don't blame Hillbilly one bit for returning the generalization in kind.
We need to stop this endless and satanic war somehow, culturally. And to stop blindly thanking and parroting all the jingoistic flag waving of a war culture is a fair start.

[Hillbilly]

I got two things to say to you:

1. Don't generalize your father's bad behaviour to all veterans. That's not being fair minded.
2. As the James Garner character said to the young boy in Murphy's Romance "Just because your father is a jerk don't mean you have to be one son."

My old man went through hell in WWII - almost died of starvation. He killed a lot of men. He diffused bombs and mines. My mother told me all of this. He never talked much about it, except when he had his buddies from the war over the house circa 1959-64. He didn't dump his emotional baggage on us kids - he swallowed it and lived with it. That's when I learned what it means to be a man.

I grew up with a lot of kids who's Dad's were vietnam vets and I saw way too many of them who's dads where bat shit crazy like mine.

[Hillbilly]

Thanking all veterans for their service just because they "served" is a huge generalization as well, and I don't blame Hillbilly one bit for returning the generalization in kind.
We need to stop this endless and satanic war somehow, culturally. And to stop blindly thanking and parroting all the jingoistic flag waving of a war culture is a fair start.

Exactly, thank you.

[Neuro]

I grew up with a lot of kids who's Dad's were vietnam vets and I saw way too many of them who's dads where bat shit crazy like mine.
You need to remember it is really not their fault also, and I think it is good that you can see beyond, what your experiences with your father imprinted in you. And I think you are right about the thanking for services rendered. Those that fought wars for the globalist elite, has only served the globalist elite, there is no reason for the average joe to thank them for it, maybe express compassion for the horrible experiences they had to endure in fighting a war that only benefits a few psychopaths, and everyone else are losers...

[Hillbilly]

You need to remember it is really not their fault also, and I think it is good that you can see beyond, what your experiences with your father imprinted in you. And I think you are right about the thanking for services rendered. Those that fought wars for the globalist elite, has only served the globalist elite, there is no reason for the average joe to thank them for it, maybe express compassion for the horrible experiences they had to endure in fighting a war that only benefits a few psychopaths, and everyone else are losers...

Even my own Dad in a moment of clarity knew that him and his kind where fucked and probably should not have been put back in the civilized world. He said "all they do is teach you to: Blow them up, Hack them up and smokem up then they expect you to go back to the real world and play nice"

[Neuro]

Even my own Dad in a moment of clarity knew that him and his kind where fucked and probably should not have been put back in the civilized world. He said "all they do is teach you to: Blow them up, Hack them up and smokem up then they expect you to go back to the real world and play nice"
Seriously, your dad should have gone back and exacted revenge on the psychopaths that made him what he was...

[kiffertom]

I got two things to say to you:

1. Don't generalize your father's bad behaviour to all veterans. That's not being fair minded.
2. As the James Garner character said to the young boy in Murphy's Romance "Just because your father is a jerk don't mean you have to be one son."

My old man went through hell in WWII - almost died of starvation. He killed a lot of men. He diffused bombs and mines. My mother told me all of this. He never talked much about it, except when he had his buddies from the war over the house circa 1959-64. He didn't dump his emotional baggage on us kids - he swallowed it and lived with it. That's when I learned what it means to be a man.my dad was kinda the same. south pacific. 17 of 22 initial invasions. iwo jima guadalcanal. shot 3 times, hit with a handgrenade, cut up with a bayonet. on certain days of the year he wouldnt come home from work. mom would have to start canvasing the bars to find him. he'd be drunk as a skunk when she found him. he would cry and say shit like"they rushed us so fast we couldnt kill 'em fast enough". hundreds at a time! mom would send him to the spin dry clinic. he'd make it till the next anniversary of some horrible butchering. the war no doubt fucked up my dad just like its doing to any other poor devil who gets caught in it!my heart is with them all!

[Jewboo]

Now I have nightmares and PTSD from being raised like this...



http://www.esreality.com/files/inlineimages/2009/73137-moms_minivan.jpg

Maybe you can go on the Dr. Phil Show and publicly relive your teenage angst with fifty million viewers while applying for lifetime Social Security Disability Benefits for your "PTSD". Post Traumatic Stress Disorder sounds kinda serious...let's indeed blame your sad life today on your dad.

[Jewboo]

http://youtu.be/Gc4HGQHgeFE

[Libertarian_Guard]

A swing and a miss.

Sorry book, but you're confusing a psychological problem with a physical problem.

Physical problems often will lead to psychological problems, but thankfully your example seems unusually well adjusted.

[vacuum]

I agree, I don't think I can say I am "thankful" either. Sympathetic maybe, perhaps impressed, possibly respectful, but I don't think thankful is the right word.

[midnight rambler]

Book, it must really suck being you considering your persistent shitty outlook on the world. Have you considered seeking help from a proctologist to improve your shitty outlook on life??

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

I had the pleasure of meeting a man named Ralph. He was 69 when I met him, and a veteran of the Korean war. I was dating his step-daughter and he and I became close during that time.

He told me war stories.


He told me that he was part of a unit that was ordered to illegally cross the korean border multiple times. He told me the majority of his operation was in the countries surrounding Korea. He told me he shipped out with 500 men and that 34 came back. He told me that when he finally came back, they dropped him and the other remaining men into empty barracks - 1 man per building. He lived by himself in an empty barracks for 3 months before he was allowed back into society at all.

He told me about the time he was sleeping in the park with his head in his wife's lap. She made a sudden move and he awoke ready to kill someone, and it was obvious to everyone. From that day on, the family was much, much more careful never to startle him.

Ralph passed away last year, I think he was around 80 years old. The fact that he was willing to take me under his wing and talk to me at all when he was almost 3x my age, touched me.

He was pretty vocal about it being a pointless, stupid war.

[EE_]

I have the utmost respect for those that have fought in WW2, Korean and Vietnam wars. I don't thank them for their service of protecting my country, rather I appreciate what they have been through having been dragged/drafted into these bull shit wars, what they went through and survived. I will never speak against them.
Their service was to their brothers in arms...I can thank them for that.

Today, our military is all volunteer and they are smart enough to know that what they are doing is wrong...they get no thanks from me. If/when this country is attacked at home and our military fights for our own, on US soil, I'll be the first to thank them for their service and line up the beers on me.

[Cebu_4_2]

In the video game world they are training young people to get better computers to keep up with the gamers. The result of most are to kill the enemy (very realistic) and it goes to the satanic (IMO) very quick. Fortunatly my kid sees this and she tells me to check out stuff. Without that I would never know. I would not doubt that they win a scholarship in winning and probably get the reward in prison... I meant IWC Industrial War Complex. Infiltrated in every way, stop and take a look around!

[Jewboo]

...persistent shitty outlook on the world...



http://i.imgur.com/yPjwZEP.jpg

Buck up and just walk it off like my dad and older brothers advised me when I was growing up...before Oprah and Dr. Phil pussified America and before the federal government starting paying monthly Disability checks for emotional problems. A real buddy will buy you a beer, listen to your tale of woe, then eventually laugh you off the bar stool. You will do the same.

Life goes on. Deal with it.

:(??

[Cebu_4_2]

Buck up and just walk it off like my dad and older brothers advised me when I was growing up...before Oprah and Dr. Phil pussified America and before the federal government starting paying monthly Disability checks for emotional problems. A real buddy will buy you a beer, listen to your tale of woe, then eventually laugh you off the bar stool. You will do the same.

Life goes on. Deal with it.

:(??

Photoshop fag.

[Jewboo]

Sorry book, but you're confusing a psychological problem with a physical problem.



Anyone who DOESN'T have a psychological problem in 2013 isn't paying attention (http://www.drudgereport.com/).

Deal with it.

:(??

[Libertarian_Guard]

Anyone who DOESN'T have a psychological problem in 2013 isn't paying attention (http://www.drudgereport.com/).

Deal with it.

:(??

Are you projecting?

If so, please elaborate.

[Norweger]

"Thanks for being so retarded that you are unable to see 9/11 for what it really was"

[Hitch]

my dad was kinda the same. south pacific.

Kiffertom, that was a very powerful post. Sounds like your dad needed to blow of steam on occassion, sounds like a good man. Your mom sounds like a special lady as well.

My Grandfather was assigned to a ship to sail for the south pacific during the war. As the dock lines were being cast off, he was pulled off the ship because he could type. Last minute, they need a guy who could type. On a type writer. That ship was torpedoed by the Japanese and sank.

[Jewboo]

http://youtu.be/BLxBBl1a0JU

Dude stayed drunk for years after some old past "emotional" injury. Just moped around day after day year after year. Today, he is cashing a Social Security Disability check every month for his "emotional" injury. So many Dudes in America getting paid monthly to mope, the few still-working still-taxpaying Americans who actually cope with shit day-to-day can't keep this game going.

Life is hard. Its gonna get harder. Deal with it.

:(??

[sirgonzo420]

I'm glad book is home.

I don't care if you guys like him or not. I mean shit, he's book.

GSUS has a shelf for him.

[Hitch]

I'm glad book is home.

I don't care if you guys like him or not. I mean shit, he's book.

I'm glad he's home too, but he's fucking wrong in this thread.

He's being a disrespectful dick. Book or no book, legend, doesn't matter...his posts are out of line in this thread, imo.

[vacuum]

I don't think people with these issues are going to be helped by emotionally supportive people, Hitcher. Nor necessarily book's advice, though that might help bury it.

I'm not sure what can help them, honestly. (I've never experienced it)

The fact is, our leaders screwed they by being greedy and evil, society screwed them for ignoring world events and letting someone else "take care of it", and they screwed themselves by volunteering. So they are messed up at 3 - 4x.

What can anyone do about it? Other than not let it happen again.

[Jewboo]

...he's fucking wrong in this thread...He's being a disrespectful dick...his posts are out of line in this thread.




http://youtu.be/kyCEaAp36iE

Well hello there! Been moping around the house unemployed watching teevee? Bad dreams? Well...that's because your moping is actually Post Traumatic Stress Disorder...or PTSD for short. Call our toll-free number now and soon your goy employed neighbors will be PAYING you monthly Social Security Disability checks to mope around the house! Our jew lawyers are standing by so call right NOW!

Have your Social Security card handy.

:)

[Hitch]

]Well hello there! Been moping around the house unemployed watching teevee? Bad dreams? Well...that's because your moping is actually Post Traumatic Stress Disorder...or PTSD for short. Call our toll-free number now and soon your goy employed neighbors will be PAYING you monthly Social Security Disability checks to mope around the house! Our jew lawyers are standing by so call right NOW![/SIZE]

Have your Social Security card handy.

:)

You are an arm chair quarterback. You are a back seat driver.

Until you show me, you have a human side. A side of a man that has "experienced life"...your little outbursts are nothing more than a false smokescreen.

Do you represent the banks? You sure seem to act like them.

[Hitch]

Post #31 in this thread.

Book quotes a post of mine, that was never posted...it timed out. My post was never posted.

How in the fuck can Book quote that? Answer me that.

[Horn]

Post #31 in this thread.

Book quotes a post of mine, that was never posted...it timed out. My post was never posted.

How in the fuck can Book quote that? Answer me that.

The very title of this thread was made for shipwrecked sailors,

I'm not surprised you find yourself here.

[Santa]

What can anyone do about it? Other than not let it happen again.

I think that was Hillbilly's point in the first place. To knock off the seemingly endless romanticizing and war hero worship of the veterans of war.
I don't think there's a town in this country that hasn't spent a shitload of taxpayer loot to erect at least one statue venerating one war after another and the veterans of those wars.

It's fucked up propaganda. Always has been. War's a racket and it's consequences have been driven deep into America's psyche'.

The same goes for cops getting 21 gun salutes and $100,000 funeral processions funded with tax money for getting shot while on duty.
Why doesn't a fisherman get a 21 gun salute and a fancy procession at taxpayer expense after he gets washed off deck and drowns from a tidal surge?
He's probably done more for the benefit and long term security of this country than any cop or soldier ever did.
Or what about the farmer who loses his legs getting pulled under a combine or dying from pesticide poisoning or being trampled by bull?
Why the fuck aren't there statues of those valiant men in every town in America?

No, instead we get soldiers, cops, and politicians to venerate while we kneel beneath the shadows of the bankers ivory towers.

[Santa]

Post #31 in this thread.

Book quotes a post of mine, that was never posted...it timed out. My post was never posted.

How in the fuck can Book quote that? Answer me that.

Because the Internet is a strange and mysterious place.... and because your post went through.

[Jewboo]

I don't think people with these issues are going to be helped by emotionally supportive people, Hitcher.



http://www.michaelkeatoncentral.com/mrmom/mrmom22.jpg

I dunno. I imagine that many of us have experienced, at some time in our Life, an emotional crisis and maybe even real "clinical" depression. Pretty common for any thinking adult living a real Life to one day find themselves emotionally overwhelmed. Truly blessed if they have emotionally supportive people around who are not being paid to help them test Reality. A true friend or family. Perfectly normal to mope around the house watching teevee for a year while we figure things out and decide what to do with the rest of Life.

http://images.oprah.com/images/tows/200908/20090828/dr-phil-melissa-oprah-290x218.jpg

Dr. Phil and Oprah and the entire jew Mental Health Industry get rich by exploiting this. They invented PTSD. They bribed Congress to fund their entire multi-billion dollar industry via Social Security and Medicare. They want everybody to mope around the house forever so they can bill Medicare for the "therapy" and meds.

This whole Mental Health game is about to suddenly end because America is now bankrupt (http://www.washingtonguardian.com/study-health-overhaul-raise-claims-cost-32-pct-1). The taxpayers now also have compassion fatigue. They don't care about anyone's so-called PTSD when they themselves have all the shit they can handle in their own Life. Anyone who still thinks their monthly federal Mope Disability check will continue much longer are deluded. I'm doing them a favor by warning about this. Consider it Tough Love.

:)

[Horn]

Its been my experience that when someone says they are a not,

the only not is them not being truthful with themselves.

[Jewboo]

I think that was Hillbilly's point in the first place. To knock off the seemingly endless romanticizing and war hero worship of the veterans of war.



That point was excellent and worthy of a thread. My problem is Hillbilly then piggybacking this important Military Service Worship topic onto his so-called "PTSD" and teenage angst, blaming Life on his dad, and turning this thread into an emotional mope party. Unlike others in this thread, to that I offer no sympathy but this message instead:


http://youtu.be/qX9FSZJu448

:(??

[Hitch]

Because the Internet is a strange and mysterious place.... and because your post went through.

Where is my post then? Poof, gone, like the cyprus bank system....

Book quoted my now gone post....what a coincidence.

I smell a rat.

[Hillbilly]

I think that was Hillbilly's point in the first place. To knock off the seemingly endless romanticizing and war hero worship of the veterans of war.
I don't think there's a town in this country that hasn't spent a shitload of taxpayer loot to erect at least one statue venerating one war after another and the veterans of those wars.

It's fucked up propaganda. Always has been. War's a racket and it's consequences have been driven deep into America's psyche'.

The same goes for cops getting 21 gun salutes and $100,000 funeral processions funded with tax money for getting shot while on duty.
Why doesn't a fisherman get a 21 gun salute and a fancy procession at taxpayer expense after he gets washed off deck and drowns from a tidal surge?
He's probably done more for the benefit and long term security of this country than any cop or soldier ever did.
Or what about the farmer who loses his legs getting pulled under a combine or dying from pesticide poisoning or being trampled by bull?
Why the fuck aren't there statues of those valiant men in every town in America?

No, instead we get soldiers, cops, and politicians to venerate while we kneel beneath the shadows of the bankers ivory towers.


Yes this is what I'm talking about. Thanks

And Book,

I'm not talking about mopey teenage shit, my dad used to take me to see people with their bodies crushed in car wrecks pleading for us to help them, we would just stand there and look at them and then turn around and walk away. He told me the most gruesome blow by blow detail of people being maimed and dying. He loved to fight and loved to hurt people. I could go on but it's just sickening and that's why the whole "Thank you for your service" sickens me.

[midnight rambler]

You are an arm chair quarterback. You are a back seat driver.

Until you show me, you have a human side. A side of a man that has "experienced life"...your little outbursts are nothing more than a false smokescreen.

Do you represent the banks? You sure seem to act like them.

Book is an extremely confused, willfully ignorant, fully compliant servant to the Beast. Everyone should know by now that the true nature of Book is that he's a hardcore statist/collectivist. Mention non-violent non-compliance and watch how he twists off in full support of the Beast. lol

[Spectrism]

Seriously, your dad should have gone back and exacted revenge on the psychopaths that made him what he was...

Which ones- at what level? It was LBJ- president donkey ears who was hankering for a neat little war so that his friends at Bell Hellicopter could make some good ole federal reserve notes.

The deception runs through the entire beast system. Corruption is like moldy bread.

This thread got me to thinking about that phrase. It was used a couple times by TSA agents and state cops when I went through their control points. They had no idea what I did or where I was. It made me feel like saying: huh? Now I think I will respond with: "What specific things did I do that you liked most?"

There have been some real heros in war that have been ignored or much worse. This tin badge of honor they want to award to everyone like me is pathetic. So.... I agree on that.

[Camp Bassfish]

Where is my post then? Poof, gone, like the cyprus bank system....

Book quoted my now gone post....what a coincidence.

I smell a rat.


Post # 29.... it's there.

[EE_]

I think that was Hillbilly's point in the first place. To knock off the seemingly endless romanticizing and war hero worship of the veterans of war.
I don't think there's a town in this country that hasn't spent a shitload of taxpayer loot to erect at least one statue venerating one war after another and the veterans of those wars.

It's fucked up propaganda. Always has been. War's a racket and it's consequences have been driven deep into America's psyche'.

The same goes for cops getting 21 gun salutes and $100,000 funeral processions funded with tax money for getting shot while on duty.
Why doesn't a fisherman get a 21 gun salute and a fancy procession at taxpayer expense after he gets washed off deck and drowns from a tidal surge?
He's probably done more for the benefit and long term security of this country than any cop or soldier ever did.
Or what about the farmer who loses his legs getting pulled under a combine or dying from pesticide poisoning or being trampled by bull?
Why the fuck aren't there statues of those valiant men in every town in America?

No, instead we get soldiers, cops, and politicians to venerate while we kneel beneath the shadows of the bankers ivory towers.

I think people need to look where these problems originate regarding romanticizing and war hero worship of the veterans.
Society has been programmed by who? Hollywood/Jews?...think John Wayne war movies.

People are always pointing out the smaller problems of society...people collecting welfare, disability checks, etc.
These are all symptoms of a larger problem that begins at the top, bankers and those that serve them!

If you want to begin to fix the smaller problems, you will have to gut the top and their minions. The whole financial system will have to be gutted and the people that run it stripped of their wealth and power...even their lives.
Our society has never been taught how money really works and there's a good reason for that...there'd be a lot of dead Jews.

The Jew that just bought the 60 million dollar home...where do you think that money came from?...hard labor...producing something? No. He is in the position to game the system through the ponzi stock market. He siphons off the real wealth that labor produced. His money came from pensions, annuities, 401's, etc....which are all now ponzi schemes too.

Imagine what would be in these accounts if this Jew prick was unable to touch them...if the money was only invested in US business...or even if these accounts never earned interest and just sat there?
They are all hollowed out now, just as social security is...only paying out what new money comes in. The Jew prick and others like him have the real money. The rest are just digits on a screen.

If you want to fix all this, gut the top first...the rest will not be far behind.

My idea of an ultimate war hero, is when our military bombs out every banker in the world, their estates, seize their wealth and put the survivors in interment camps waiting to be tried and shot.
A great monument would be built to honor these heroes!

[madfranks]

Where is my post then? Poof, gone, like the cyprus bank system....

Book quoted my now gone post....what a coincidence.

I smell a rat.

Dude, your post that you say is gone is #29 in this thread. Go back a few pages and read it.

[Jewboo]

I'm not talking about mopey teenage shit, my dad used to... He told me...He loved to fight and loved to hurt...I could go on but...



http://sachscenter.com/wp-content/uploads/stock_father_son_dusk.jpg

Ok. You still have father issues. All that happened in the past. Today is now March 28, 2013.

:(?? WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT ANY OF THIS TODAY HERE AT GSUS?

[horseshoe3]

Post #31 in this thread.

Book quotes a post of mine, that was never posted...it timed out. My post was never posted.

How in the fuck can Book quote that? Answer me that.

Did you have a Ponce moment buddy? HeHe!

[Hitch]

Did you have a Ponce moment buddy? HeHe!

Opps. Well, my apologies. See what this forum does to a guy...the first thing I think is "conspiracy!!" That post was gone though, odd. I've seen that happen before.

I do think the men that fought in the wars from Vietnam and earlier, are heros. Most of them didn't have a choice, but they went anyway. In their hearts they were fighting for our freedom, that's what they believed when they put their lives on the line. They put the country before themselves. That makes them heros, imo.

[Jewboo]

I think people need to look where these problems originate regarding romanticizing and war hero worship of the veterans. Society has been programmed by who? Hollywood/Jews?...think John Wayne war movies.




http://youtu.be/ilD1XvbnGzc

Jews replaced John Wayne with Marc Harmon.

Most popular teevee show of all time. Patriotic goyim lap it up while jew banks rob them blind.

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/eating/eating-popcorn-smiley-emoticon.gif

[Horn]

http://youtu.be/ilD1XvbnGzc



Are those Gold bars with a cop guarding them in the background, out the window?

[EE_]

Opps. Well, my apologies. See what this forum does to a guy...the first thing I think is "conspiracy!!" That post was gone though, odd. I've seen that happen before.

I do think the men that fought in the wars from Vietnam and earlier, are heros. Most of them didn't have a choice, but they went anyway. In their hearts they were fighting for our freedom, that's what they believed when they put their lives on the line. They put the country before themselves. That makes them heros, imo.

I think they are heroes too, for what they endured. I'd like to know how many actually thought they were fighting for our freedom while in the heat of battle?
Man has a need/will to survive...it's engrained in each of us. I think the lives of their brothers came first in battle.

Our country hasn't been attacked since the revolutionary war, so how was our freedom ever put in jeapordy since?
The only people I see putting our freedom in jeapordy, are right here in this country...of cource their home base is in the Middle East and our boys are sent to die to protect it. In that respect, you can say we are under attack, we're just not fighting the real enemy.