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Cebu_4_2
28th March 2013, 09:39 AM
Yeah Okay....

Investigators: Adam Lanza surrounded by weapons at home; attack took less than 5 minutesNBC's Michael Isikoff shares the newly released details on the investigation of Newtown shooter Adam Lanza and what police found in his home and car.

By Michael Isikoff, Tom Winter and Erin McClam, NBC News

Adam Lanza left a home stuffed with weaponry and carried out the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in a 154-bullet barrage that took less than five minutes, investigators said Thursday in the first detailed account of his surroundings and troubled state of mind.
Search warrants from the second-worst school shooting in American history revealed that the home Lanza shared with his mother in Newtown, Conn., was a veritable arsenal: Authorities found at least nine knives, three Samurai swords, two rifles, 1,600 rounds of ammunition and a 7-foot, wood-handled pole with a blade on one side and a spear on the other.
Authorities also recovered a National Rifle Association certificate, seven of Lanza’s journals, drawings that he made and books from the house, including an NRA guide to the basics of pistol shooting.
The warrants offered a thorough look at the environment in which Lanza lived before he shot his mother, Nancy, to death and drove to Sandy Hook on the morning of Dec. 14. Twenty first-graders and six teachers and staff were killed before Lanza shot himself to death with the 155th bullet.
An FBI report included in the search warrants said that Lanza rarely left home, considered himself a shut-in and was an avid gamer who played “Call of Duty,” a first-person shooter game. Lanza considered the elementary school his “life,” the papers said.
Among other items seized from the home were a holiday card containing a check from his mother to buy a firearm, an article from The New York Times about a 2008 school shooting at Northern Illinois University and three photographs of what appeared to be a dead person covered with plastic and blood.
Full list of Lanza arsenal as detailed in search warrants (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/28/17501802-guns-knives-ammo-and-gear-adam-lanzas-massive-arsenal?lite)
Other books included “Look Me in the Eye: My Life with Asperger’s” and “Born on a Blue Day: Inside the Mind of an Autistic Savant.” Authorities also found a starter’s pistol and a BB gun.
At the school, Lanza fired the 154 rounds from a Bushmaster .223-model rifle and the final bullet from a Glock 10mm handgun to take his own life, said Stephen Sedensky, the chief prosecutor investigating the shooting.
Police recovered nine 30-round magazines for the Bushmaster that Lanza took to the school. Three of the magazines had a full 30 rounds still in them.
Among school shootings in the United States, the death toll from Newtown is second only to the 32 people killed at Virginia Tech in 2007.
The attack touched off a nationwide debate about gun control, and Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy used the release of the warrants to call for stricter gun laws.
“We knew that these weapons were legally purchased under our current laws,” Malloy said. “I don’t know what more we can need to know before we take decisive action to prevent gun violence. The time to act is now.”

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On Wednesday, a judge granted a request from prosecutors to withhold some information in the records, including a witness name, credit card information, telephone numbers and serial numbers.
Lanza used a Bushmaster .223-caliber XM15-E2S rifle with a 30-round magazine to shoot the victims at the school, authorities have said.
Authorities also found the Glock 10mm semiautomatic pistol and a Sig-Sauer 9mm semiautomatic pistol in the school, one of which Lanza used to kill himself. In the car outside, police found a shotgun.
All those weapons were legally owned by the mother, authorities have said. Enough public blame and anger has been directed at her that she was left out of many of the memorials and shrines to the Newtown victims.
There have been reports that Lanza was obsessed with other mass killers, including Anders Breivik, who killed 77 people in a shooting and bomb attack in Norway two years ago.
A law enforcement official told NBC News last month that Lanza had collected material on previous mass shootings, although the source said there was no indication that it played a role in the school massacre.
Police told NBC News in February that investigators were still a long way from determining Lanza’s motive. Police said then that they hoped to have a report on the shooting finished by June.
Search warrants:
Dec. 14 (first) (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/z-pdf-archive/Search%20Warrant%20Dated%20December%2014,%202012.p df) | Dec. 14 (second) (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/z-pdf-archive/Search%20Warrant%20Dated%20December%2014,%202012%2 0at%20529%20PM.pdf) | Dec. 14 (third) (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/z-pdf-archive/Search%20Warrant%20Dated%20December%2014,%202012%2 0at%20725%20PM.pdf) | Dec. 15 (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/z-pdf-archive/Search%20Warrant%20Dated%20December%2015,%202012%2 0at%20303%20PM.pdf) | Dec. 16 (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/z-pdf-archive/Search%20Warrant%20Dated%20December%2016,%202012%2 0at%20431%20PM.pdf)
This story was originally published on Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:23 AM EDT



1569comments (http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/28/17501282-investigators-adam-lanza-surrounded-by-weapons-at-home-attack-took-less-than-5-minutes#comments)

General of Darkness
28th March 2013, 09:45 AM
pigs do fly.

Horn
28th March 2013, 09:56 AM
Someone on the news said he was burying clips with 5 or 6 rounds still in them.

What a liberal.

Cebu_4_2
28th March 2013, 10:03 AM
Police recovered nine 30-round magazines for the Bushmaster that Lanza took to the school. Three of the magazines had a full 30 rounds still in them.

How much would this weigh and how would he carry it all with the long gun and the glock?

Horn
28th March 2013, 10:13 AM
How much would this weigh and how would he carry it all with the long gun and the glock?

To blow off 150 rounds that fast, he would've needed to have been carrying around 30lbs. plus with him, in my estimation.

Though with 4 handguns found at the scene, possibly 50lbs.

This whole story seems timed to reinvigorate Obama's weapon march.

Cebu_4_2
28th March 2013, 10:26 AM
This whole story seems timed to reinvigorate Obama's weapon march.

The whole story reeks of unedited propaganda. It is so unbelievable yet there are people that take it as gospel. I see main street stories like this and just wonder how much fluoride is really in processed/fast food.

madfranks
28th March 2013, 10:38 AM
the home Lanza shared with his mother in Newtown, Conn., was a veritable arsenal: Authorities found at least nine knives, three Samurai swords, two rifles, 1,600 rounds of ammunition and a 7-foot, wood-handled pole with a blade on one side and a spear on the other.

That's an "arsenal"?? Two rifles and some blades.

Hatha Sunahara
28th March 2013, 11:29 AM
A 90 pound geek can pull off a mass murder like that?

And the media can pull off a fairy tale like this too?

We live in a truly fantastic country!


Hatha

sirgonzo420
28th March 2013, 11:39 AM
That's an "arsenal"?? Two rifles and some blades.

That's not even including the forks and spoons.

Spectrism
28th March 2013, 12:20 PM
The noos media harp on this EVERY day. The outright bullshit coming from the news and the scumbags like Danell Malloy is nauseating. The useless, mindless fools who believe all this crap deserve the treatment they will get. May their shackles scrape their skin raw and weigh heavily on their tired bones.

Heimdhal
28th March 2013, 12:39 PM
Weight wise, you're only looking at 1-2 pounds per loaded mag. AK mags are just over 2 pounds a piece loaded, and they are a fair bit heavier than an AR mag. In a chest righ with 8 mags + some pistol mags, the pistol itself (I carry on a belt holster, not vest) and other gear, the rig hovers at about 27 pounds WITHOUT the water bladder full (another 3.5 pounds). Lets say the average of each long gun was 7 pounds and hand gun was 2.

That covers a BASIC load out, with 270 total rifle rounds, about 45 pistol rounds, IFAK, etc. Any reasonably active/fit person should be able to hump that around for a while without much trouble. Im not as fit as I used to be and I can still get the move on wearing that AND more.

150 rounds isnt very hard to burn through either if you're shooting quickly. 150 rounds in 5 minutes is 1 round every 2 seconds, which is about average for CQB semi auto fire rates (1 shot every breath cycle is about 3 seconds, thats for accuracy at distance).

Whether any of this helps or hurst the gun case, these are the facts. Fact still remains, had SOME ONE at the school been armed, we would have seen a very different out come.

Bigjon
28th March 2013, 12:53 PM
The Jooz nooz, is all about manufacturing consent. It does not matter if 90 percent think it's baloney, They still can go ahead and pass the laws they want and declare they have a mandate from the people, by going and interviewing some of their actor friends acting in the role of the sheeple talking up how good it is that somebody is looking out for the public and the children.

Horn
28th March 2013, 01:04 PM
150 rounds isnt very hard to burn through either if you're shooting quickly. 150 rounds in 5 minutes is 1 round every 2 seconds, which is about average for CQB semi auto fire rates (1 shot every breath cycle is about 3 seconds, thats for accuracy at distance).

I'm sure I heard on the news that he was dropping clips with 4 or 5 rounds still in them.

Why I needed that info. I don't know?

Horn
28th March 2013, 02:06 PM
That's not even including the forks and spoons.

Spork with adjustable folding stock.
4648

willie pete
28th March 2013, 03:27 PM
a Full 30 rd AR mag weighs 1 pound, I just weighed one of mine ::) ...I'd still like to know HOW he got inside, who buzzed him in?

Heimdhal
28th March 2013, 03:52 PM
I'm sure I heard on the news that he was dropping clips with 4 or 5 rounds still in them.

Why I needed that info. I don't know?

Its possible. High adrenaline scenario and constant volume of fire would do that, just crank the trigger a bunch and reload whenever.

Combat Reloads/Tactical Reloads is something you would see this happen with, but generaly the partialy used mags are retained by the shooter for later use if the need arises. I.E. thrown into a dump pouch, bag, vest, etc.

Or he could have been experiencing jams and malfunctions and dropped a few mags to clear it, which if is the case suggest he had SOME know how with the gun to run malfunction clearance techniques in such a short period of time.

Most likley it was the first thing. He didnt have ANY opposition, so he kept on the trigger and since ammo wasnt a real concern, just reloaded whenever he felt he needed.

I still wanna know who that "cop" running away from other cops in the woods was. The only reason for info like partial filled mags is to scare non gun people and confuse them with pointless facts that have no bearing on anything but they can point to and say "see, see, if it wasnt for xxx then yyy wouldnt have happened".

Cebu_4_2
28th March 2013, 04:05 PM
This is the ONLY picture the nooz sports, besides what is claimed to be other childhood photos. Note the fancy 70's style hair curler mod of his bangs. No mugshot, no real pictures etc. This kid might not even exist (anymore).

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/ap_adam_lanza_ll_121217_wg.jpg

and the crap:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=adam+lanza

Horn
28th March 2013, 04:14 PM
I still wanna know who that "cop" running away from other cops in the woods was. The only reason for info like partial filled mags is to scare non gun people and confuse them with pointless facts that have no bearing on anything but they can point to and say "see, see, if it wasnt for xxx then yyy wouldnt have happened".

Just saying, if partial clips were found there along with 3 full that maybe we could use some algebra and figure out how many magazines in total were needed to complete 150 rounds.

Around 10 possibly?

Will one of those jackets accommodate 10 magazines?

Still very few injuries to believe such a scenario.

Horn
28th March 2013, 04:16 PM
a Full 30 rd AR mag weighs 1 pound, I just weighed one of mine ::) ...I'd still like to know HOW he got inside, who buzzed him in?

Right he would been a veritable ball with 10 magazines, a rifle, and 4 handguns on him.

Heimdhal
28th March 2013, 06:29 PM
Just saying, if partial clips were found there along with 3 full that maybe we could use some algebra and figure out how many magazines in total were needed to complete 150 rounds.

Around 10 possibly?

Will one of those jackets accommodate 10 magazines?

Still very few injuries to believe such a scenario.

Well, the basic math is 5 mags, 30 rounds per mag (not clip ;) ) = 150 rounds.

they found 3 loaded, thats 90 rounds. With partial mags found, its still totaly doable at 8 mags. Perhaps he had a coupler that held 2 on the gun. A good tac vest would easily accomodate 10 mags, but it wouldnt exactly be a slim profile, even on a skinny guy. Double mag pouches on each side would have allowed 8 mags per side of the vest (16 total in theory across the front and sides) but thats some serious frontal weight.

A bag with extra mags, a small back pack, etc is usualy where spare mags go after 8 or so unless you want some girth. PLUS 4 handguns and the rifle, he probably wasnt going anywhere quickly. WOuld have had a LOT of trouble driving long distance with that set up on, too.

Did they say he had a vest and what not on? I dont remember? A duffle bag slung over the shoulder would carry all that and more, but would be cumbersom. It would be easier to travel in a car with, easier to get out and start an assault without taking time to don the vest and get everything set. Its not quick getting all that gear on.

Horn
28th March 2013, 06:43 PM
Did they say he had a vest and what not on? I dont remember? A duffle bag slung over the shoulder would carry all that and more, but would be cumbersom. It would be easier to travel in a car with, easier to get out and start an assault without taking time to don the vest and get everything set. Its not quick getting all that gear on.

So if Adam was Boy Wonder, where's Batman?

sirgonzo420
28th March 2013, 06:55 PM
Spork with adjustable folding stock.
4648

OMG is that a barrel shroud on that thing?

Heimdhal
28th March 2013, 08:04 PM
So if Adam was Boy Wonder, where's Batman?

Like I said, I wonder about that cop that ran off into the woods and was later drug in. Werent there a couple "hunters" in the area too? Some guys in camo in the woods?

Cebu_4_2
28th March 2013, 08:45 PM
Like I said, I wonder about that cop that ran off into the woods and was later drug in. Werent there a couple "hunters" in the area too? Some guys in camo in the woods?

yes that was a "live" feed so there will be eccentricities. I wonder "when" that live feed was taken. Kind of like all the people in the crowd speaking some foreign language, strange logos and stuff.

Horn
29th March 2013, 10:20 AM
Like I said, I wonder about that cop that ran off into the woods and was later drug in. Werent there a couple "hunters" in the area too? Some guys in camo in the woods?

They're too busy trying to found out what went wrong in Adam's past to be concerned with the any present life investigation.

Someone should lodge a formal complaint against the police department there, for failure to conclude.