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Twisted Titan
4th April 2013, 12:02 PM
Bill requiring ID for the purchase of ammunition passed by California Assembly committee The bill was passed on party lines by the seven-member Public Safety Committee, but groups who spoke out against the the measure included the California Association of Federal Firearms Licensees, the National Rifle Association of America and the California Rifle and Pistol Association.

















Gun control advocates have a new target: bullets.




A bill requiring California residents to produce identification when purchasing ammunition cleared an Assembly committee on Monday.
Sponsored by Berkeley Democrat Nancy Skinner, AB 48 also requires dealers selling ammunition to be licensed in the state, for federal and local officials to be notified when an individual purchases more than 3,000 bullets over a five-day period and prohibits the sale of kits that help convert conventional firearms into semi-automatic weapons.




Skinner points to James Holmes’ Aurora, Colo. theater massacre that left 12 dead and 58 injured as an example of a crime that might have been prevented by her bill.




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http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1306035.1364941623%21/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/165269895.jpg Justin Sullivan/Getty Images California State lawmakers are introducing several bills that propose taxing and regulating sales of ammunition, including AB 48, which would require people purchasing bullets to produce identification.



“In the case of Aurora, Holmes had a history of mental illness, and amassed 6,000 rounds of ammunition in a four to five day period,” Skinner told the Daily News. “Under this law, local law enforcement would have been notified.”




Similarly, Skinner said, One L. Goh’s rampage at Oakland’s Oikos University that killed seven might also have been prevented. Goh used a conversion kit to fashion his own semi-automatic weapon, circumventing California’s existing assault weapons ban.




Though she concedes that no single gun control measure will be entirely effective in prevent future mass shootings, Skinner said that her bill was a start.




“We’re trying to make it just a little bit more difficult for someone to be able to carry out a mass shooting,” Skinner said.
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http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1306032.1364941569%21/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/165269887.jpg Justin Sullivan/Getty Images AB 48 would also require sellers of ammunition to obtain licenses.
The bill was opposed by the two Republicans on the Public Safety Committee, but supported by its five Democrats.
Groups that spoke out against the measure included the California Association of Federal Firearms Licensees, the National Rifle Association of America and the California Rifle and Pistol Association.




“Under AB 48, sporting goods stores, general stores, and shooting ranges that do not sell firearms would be BANNED from selling ammunition on a widespread basis throughout the state,” the San Fernando Valley chapter of the NRA said on its website. “This would effectively put many ranges out of business!”




Skinner argues that the public is demanding that legislators take action to make the state safer.
“Polls show that Californians want additional measures enacted on guns to keep these mass shootings from happening,” Skinner said.
The bill still must be voted on by the full Assembly before it has a chance of becoming law, but Skinner says she is “optimistic.”

Twisted Titan
4th April 2013, 12:04 PM
“We’re trying to make it just a little bit more difficult for someone to be able to carry out a mass shooting,” Skinner said.




No you are making it a hell of alot more difficult for a Law Abiding to defend themselves.

Doofus.

Shami-Amourae
4th April 2013, 12:07 PM
They know it's against law abiding citizens. They want them defenseless so they turn to the government for everything.

chad
4th April 2013, 12:11 PM
it's the endgame now. they don't care. the civil war has already started, it's just that most people don't see it yet. it has started.

Sparky
4th April 2013, 12:32 PM
What's so annoying is that in addition to being a total intrusion on private law abiding citizens, none of these proposals even address their stated objectives. For example, someone can purchase 2500 rounds and not be "reported to authorities". I'd say 2500 rounds is is enough for a mass murder. And knowing that none of these lame measures actually helps at all, these proposals always include some variation of this quote: "...no single gun control measure will be entirely effective in prevent future mass shootings." It's like when you here a politician say "We know this bill isn't perfect", he's really saying it's basically a piece of shit.

Twisted Titan
4th April 2013, 12:51 PM
Did you really think we want those laws observed? said Dr. Ferris. We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be
much easier to deal with.


('Atlas Shrugged' 1957)

Sparky
4th April 2013, 12:59 PM
Nice excerpt, TT. That's where we are, and it's only getting worse.

Sparky
4th April 2013, 01:01 PM
it's the endgame now. they don't care. the civil war has already started, it's just that most people don't see it yet. it has started.

I've been thinking lately that the dividing lines have already been drawn, except that they're not on a geographic map. Talk to anyone for 5 minutes, and you'll know which side they are on.