View Full Version : BREAKING: Gun grabbing in Boston met with resistance
sirgonzo420
30th April 2013, 12:32 PM
BOSTON - National guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed on April 19th by elements of a para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.
Speaking after the clash Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement. Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group's organizers as "criminals," issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government's efforts to secure law and order. The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons.
Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting in early this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms.
One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that "none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily."
Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government's plans. During a tense standoff in Lexington's town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists. Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange. Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, armed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units.
Colonel Smith, finding his forces overmatched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat. Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops. Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock, who have been identified as "ringleaders" of the extremist faction, remain at large.
April 20, 1775
Cebu_4_2
30th April 2013, 12:47 PM
That was great, until the end I thought I was reading an Onion article.
mamboni
30th April 2013, 01:05 PM
That's because modern America has become the Onion. The Founders are rolling in their graves.
Libertytree
30th April 2013, 01:30 PM
Interestingly in reality the Brits weren't concerned with the guns that much, instead they went to capture the ammunition stash. Sound familiar?
Ponce
30th April 2013, 01:37 PM
Did you guys see the date? 1775........ that was when we used to have ball.
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Heimdhal
30th April 2013, 02:14 PM
Interestingly in reality the Brits weren't concerned with the guns that much, instead they went to capture the ammunition stash. Sound familiar?
You are 100% correct. The wanted the powder and ball. Powder was not actually manufactured on the American continent at that time, at least not in any significant quantity, even pre-war. Almost all powder and shot was made in Europe where they had by then generations old saltpeter and lead mines running and exporting all over the world. A big reason the french were so pivotal because without a European source for ammunition, the colonist were left with very little.
Basically their idea was to confiscate enough powder and ball that people would still be able to hunt and defend their homes, particularly on the frontier borders with indians, but not enough to wage a ware, while at the same time they themselves were stockpiling as much as they could to use against the colonials. Of course most people did not have thousands of rounds of powder and ball in their house. Powder acutally went bad and was expensive, so most colonials would normally keep only a little around and the rest was stored at the towns armory for milita/town defense use.
So, really, its the same "no one NEEDS that much ammo/capacity to defend themselves or hunt deer. You can only have what we deem is necessary" Say, 7 round mag limits and no bayonets....
Heimdhal
30th April 2013, 02:20 PM
Another interesting point. The townsfolk between concord and lexington buried cannons in freshly plowed fields to hide them from passing soldiers. Thats right, privately owned heavy artillery pieces. Some of these cannons were discovered (i want to say 5) and because the regulars could not transport them by foot, they "destroyed" them by knocking the trunnions off, which basicaly means the cannon was rendered useless.
A local blacks smiths daughter/apprentice worked for months fixing them to get them back into milita service when the war was starting. Something that would be extremely difficult even with todays tools. She did it by herself and got them back in action.
Another note, in concord as the regulars approached, the militia was so determined NOT to let the powder go to the regulars, that a man actually stood in the powder house with a torch ready to drop it into the casks of powder if the armory was breached. It never was.
mamboni
30th April 2013, 02:24 PM
Did you guys see the date? 1775........ that was when we used to have ball.
V
I'll bet this account brings back memories, huh Ponce?;D
Libertytree
30th April 2013, 02:27 PM
I've always chuckled that those same buried cannons that weren't found at 1st greeted them as they were retreating. Also of note, much of the ammo in the armory had already been divied out because of Paul Revere's intel and courier system and was used to full effect.
Roland
30th April 2013, 02:37 PM
I've always chuckled that those same buried cannons that weren't found at 1st greeted them as they were retreating. Also of note, much of the ammo in the armory had already been divied out because of Paul Revere's intel and courier system and was used to full effect.
Thats just it. It wasn't even Paul revere that got the messages out to the people who needed it he was detained. It was the networks of like minded men who did it. Truly inspiring. A good read for anybody who takes pride in what those men did and sacrificed is Paul reveres ride
gunDriller
30th April 2013, 02:42 PM
You are 100% correct. The wanted the powder and ball.
these days, it's logical to go after the part that's hard to make - the primer.
it's almost as if Boston's purpose was to give the US gov a reason to clamp down on Powder purchases.
Ponce
30th April 2013, 02:59 PM
I'll bet this account brings back memories, huh Ponce?;D
That was way after my time.......all that we were fithing with was sticks and stones hahahahahahah.
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Dogman
30th April 2013, 03:02 PM
That was way after my time.......all that we were fishing with was sticks and stones hahahahahahah.
V
Ponce are you a ghost/spirit?
If it was way after YOUR time, does that mean you died?
Or was that was you ascended to your present Godhood>?< ;D
Libertytree
30th April 2013, 03:15 PM
these days, it's logical to go after the part that's hard to make - the primer.
it's almost as if Boston's purpose was to give the US gov a reason to clamp down on Powder purchases.
Absolutely! Pressure cookers and fireworks!
Ponce
30th April 2013, 05:00 PM
Hey Gun?....for the primer all that you need is seven tips of strike anywhere matches (not the whole head) in the back of the shell.
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Heimdhal
30th April 2013, 07:03 PM
Hey Gun?....for the primer all that you need is seven tips of strike anywhere matches (not the whole head) in the back of the shell.
V
yeah........................ that uh.... that's not a good idea.
Horn
30th April 2013, 07:32 PM
http://viciousbabushka.typepad.com/.a/6a010536b72a74970b015393dba51d970b-500wi
Heimdhal
30th April 2013, 08:04 PM
http://viciousbabushka.typepad.com/.a/6a010536b72a74970b015393dba51d970b-500wi
"Don't Tread On Me..... You might get some schmutz on your shoes"
still afloat
30th April 2013, 10:06 PM
Hey Gun?....for the primer all that you need is seven tips of strike anywhere matches (not the whole head) in the back of the shell.
V
Haven't seen a box of strike anywhere matches in a store here in Ky in over 10 years. Asked a few store owners why and was told that shipping on them made them too expensive .More hazardous than ammo . Finally got a few boxes shipped from Canada in a plain brown box ;), the wow effect is priceless in a kids eyes when you make fire from a piece of wood by rubbing it on your pants leg or with your finger nail. Yes kids now days are clueless about so much the "older" generations took for granite or was just the norm.
Horn
2nd May 2013, 09:48 AM
Kudos to sirgonzo, the thread is a stroke of genius.
I'm waiting for the sequel.
Ponce
2nd May 2013, 10:03 AM
Afloat? I have about 20 of the big boxes from about seven years ago, got them at the dollar store......like yourself, I haven't seen them in a long time.
V
sirgonzo420
9th May 2013, 08:22 AM
Kudos to sirgonzo, the thread is a stroke of genius.
I'm waiting for the sequel.
Aren't we all!
gunDriller
9th May 2013, 08:55 AM
i wonder what the original colonists knew about the Jews.
did they know they were fighting the Crown - or the Power behind the Crown ?
i'm not an expert on colonial US history, but i have the impression that the 18th century English banksters were pushing the king to collect more taxes from the colonies.
so the "king" was kind of like Obama, a figure head & a puppet.
but i wonder how many early American citizens knew about the Greed of the Jews, pushing the king to ramp up taxes on We Americans.
they didn't have the Internet back then, it was before Rothschild's big Waterloo scam (1814), and life, being "hard", meant you spent most of your time working.
Horn
9th May 2013, 12:29 PM
Aren't we all!
I didn't hear about this on the news?
was the reply I got back from 2 fellas I emailed it to.
I did give anonymous credit towards you of course. :)
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