View Full Version : Bagram Airfield Crash 29 APRIL 2013
old steel
30th April 2013, 01:34 PM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c32_1367332518
Woops guess they pulled the video, sorry.
old steel
30th April 2013, 01:39 PM
Found it on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQyYf9I53JA
Dogman
30th April 2013, 01:41 PM
Looks like it tried to climb too fast and stalled.
In combat zones aircraft do try to climb as fast as they can and get as much altitude as they can while still within the protection of the airfield defenses.
mamboni
30th April 2013, 01:42 PM
Looks like complete and sudden loss of power - jet dead in the air. Holy shit, can't imagine what the pilot and passengers were thinking those last ghastly seconds.
Dogman
30th April 2013, 01:45 PM
Looks like complete and sudden loss of power - jet dead in the air. Holy shit, can't imagine what the pilot and passengers were thinking those last ghastly seconds.
Probably "Holy Shit" or stronger, they had time to think about it knowing they were going to crash.
old steel
30th April 2013, 01:47 PM
Crash: National Air Cargo B744 at Bagram on Apr 29th 2013, lost height shortly after takeoff
By Simon Hradecky, created Monday, Apr 29th 2013 14:02Z, last updated Tuesday, Apr 30th 2013 16:28ZA National Air Cargo Boeing 747-400 freighter on behalf of US Mobility Command, registration N949CA performing cargo flight N8-102 from Bagram (Afghanistan) to Dubai Al Maktoum (United Arab Emirates) with 7 crew and cargo consisting of 5 military vehicles, has crashed shortly after takeoff from Bagram Air Base's runway 03 at 15:30L (11:00Z) and erupted into flames near the end of the runway within the perimeter of the Air Base. All 7 crew are reported perished in the crash.
Afghan Authorities immediately denied claims that the crash of a large civilian cargo aircraft was the result of enemy activities. A large fire erupted after the aircraft impacted ground, it appears all crew have been killed.
Coalition Forces reported a civilian large cargo plane crashed shortly after takeoff, at the time of the accident there was no enemy activity around the aerodrome. Rescue and Recovery efforts are under way, the Air Base is currently locked down and the aerodrome is closed.
National Air Cargo confirmed their aircraft N949CA with 7 crew, 4 pilots, 2 mechanics and a load master - initial information had been 8 crew - crashed at Bagram.
The NTSB reported the Boeing 747-400 was operated by National Air Cargo and destined for Dubai Al Maktoum when it crashed just after takeoff from Bagram and came to rest within the boundaries of the Air Base. All 7 occupants, all American citizens, were killed. Afghanistan's Ministry of Transportation and Commercial Aviation is leading the investigation into the crash, the NTSB have assigned accredited representatives joining the investigation.
Several observers on the ground reported the National Air Cargo Boeing 747-400 had just lifted off and was climbing through approximately 1200 feet when it's nose sharply rose, the aircraft appeared to have stalled and came down erupting in a blaze.
According to a listener on frequency the crew reported the aircraft stalled due to a possible load shift.
A car driver caught the aircraft climbing out and coming down on his car camera, see below.
The aircraft was carrying 5 military vehicles.
National Air Cargo operates three Boeing 747-400s with the registrations N952CA, N919CA and N949CA. N949CA operated into Afghanistan on Apr 28th.
http://avherald.com/h?article=46183bb4
Dogman
30th April 2013, 01:51 PM
Crash: National Air Cargo B744 at Bagram on Apr 29th 2013, lost height shortly after takeoff
By Simon Hradecky, created Monday, Apr 29th 2013 14:02Z, last updated Tuesday, Apr 30th 2013 16:28ZA National Air Cargo Boeing 747-400 freighter on behalf of US Mobility Command, registration N949CA performing cargo flight N8-102 from Bagram (Afghanistan) to Dubai Al Maktoum (United Arab Emirates) with 7 crew and cargo consisting of 5 military vehicles, has crashed shortly after takeoff from Bagram Air Base's runway 03 at 15:30L (11:00Z) and erupted into flames near the end of the runway within the perimeter of the Air Base. All 7 crew are reported perished in the crash.
Afghan Authorities immediately denied claims that the crash of a large civilian cargo aircraft was the result of enemy activities. A large fire erupted after the aircraft impacted ground, it appears all crew have been killed.
Coalition Forces reported a civilian large cargo plane crashed shortly after takeoff, at the time of the accident there was no enemy activity around the aerodrome. Rescue and Recovery efforts are under way, the Air Base is currently locked down and the aerodrome is closed.
National Air Cargo confirmed their aircraft N949CA with 7 crew, 4 pilots, 2 mechanics and a load master - initial information had been 8 crew - crashed at Bagram.
The NTSB reported the Boeing 747-400 was operated by National Air Cargo and destined for Dubai Al Maktoum when it crashed just after takeoff from Bagram and came to rest within the boundaries of the Air Base. All 7 occupants, all American citizens, were killed. Afghanistan's Ministry of Transportation and Commercial Aviation is leading the investigation into the crash, the NTSB have assigned accredited representatives joining the investigation.
Several observers on the ground reported the National Air Cargo Boeing 747-400 had just lifted off and was climbing through approximately 1200 feet when it's nose sharply rose, the aircraft appeared to have stalled and came down erupting in a blaze.
According to a listener on frequency the crew reported the aircraft stalled due to a possible load shift.
A car driver caught the aircraft climbing out and coming down on his car camera, see below.
The aircraft was carrying 5 military vehicles.
National Air Cargo operates three Boeing 747-400s with the registrations N952CA, N919CA and N949CA. N949CA operated into Afghanistan on Apr 28th.
http://avherald.com/h?article=46183bb4
If the load or part of it broke loose and shifted to the tail end, that sure would have done it. Seeing they were carrying vehicles, lot of weight transfer.
BrewTech
30th April 2013, 02:16 PM
Where's the reaction from the guy with the camera?
"ahhh...fuck" after he drove closer is all I heard...
If I saw a plane crash in front of me I would have freaked out a little.
Celtic Rogue
30th April 2013, 02:23 PM
Landing and taking off at Bagram Airfield is crazy. Steep as crap take offs to get them altitude quickly... if a heavy load shifted it would cause a stall for sure as they are right at the edge already with the steep angle of take off.
ximmy
30th April 2013, 02:33 PM
oh my god!
willie pete
30th April 2013, 03:13 PM
looked like a global power loss, loose power, you loose lift (in a situation like this one), loose lift, you fall out of the sky
midnight rambler
30th April 2013, 03:14 PM
Meanwhile, somewhere in Pakistan a flying killer robot kills a family of 7 and no one notices.
iOWNme
30th April 2013, 03:27 PM
Where's the reaction from the guy with the camera?
"ahhh...fuck" after he drove closer is all I heard...
If I saw a plane crash in front of me I would have freaked out a little.
No shit. How about getting out of your car and fucking helping people!
"But on TV the people always survive......So i thought i should just sit and film." - IDIOT.
Spectrism
30th April 2013, 03:43 PM
If the load or part of it broke loose and shifted to the tail end, that sure would have done it. Seeing they were carrying vehicles, lot of weight transfer.
Best explanation.
For the nose to lift that high causing a stall, either a control went haywire or alot of weight shifted to the back.
Uncle Salty
30th April 2013, 04:59 PM
Air cargo plane is
defunct
who used to
deliver weapons of war
to nation states
onetwothreefourfive justlikethat
Jesus
he was a handsome pilot
and what i want to know is
how do you like your blueeyed boy
Mister Death
VX1
30th April 2013, 06:43 PM
Definite sudden weight shift of cargo.
I'm building a seaplane. If you don't follow your checklist and forget to run your bulge pump before takeoff... you risk a sudden shift of all the water to the back, raising the nose, stalling the wings, no matter how much power you have:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okohCcyQxNg
Not following your checklist and forgetting to raise the wheels before landing in water is no picnic either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56IoiW8n5mc
Agrippa
30th April 2013, 11:22 PM
It wouldn't have been hanging on at that angle of attack without full power. The moment I read that it was a cargo plane I was thinking weight shift. Someone should have secured those vehicles better -- I hope that someone was along for the ride.
milehi
30th April 2013, 11:30 PM
My bet's on gravity as the cause.
Cebu_4_2
1st May 2013, 03:22 AM
My bet's on gravity as the cause.
Or needless wars...
Camp Bassfish
1st May 2013, 04:37 AM
A missle shot it down.....
Spectrism
1st May 2013, 04:49 AM
A missle shot it down.....
Or thermite in the structure.
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