Court OK's barring high IQ cops

[Large Sarge]

http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/05/01/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-for-cops/


A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court’s decision that the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.

“This kind of puts an official face on discrimination in America against people of a certain class,” Jordan said today from his Waterford home. “I maintain you have no more control over your basic intelligence than your eye color or your gender or anything else.”

He said he does not plan to take any further legal action.

Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.

The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average.

Jordan alleged his rejection from the police force was discrimination. He sued the city, saying his civil rights were violated because he was denied equal protection under the law.

But the U.S. District Court found that New London had “shown a rational basis for the policy.” In a ruling dated Aug. 23, the 2nd Circuit agreed. The court said the policy might be

[Ares]

http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/05/01/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-for-cops/


A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court’s decision that the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.

“This kind of puts an official face on discrimination in America against people of a certain class,” Jordan said today from his Waterford home. “I maintain you have no more control over your basic intelligence than your eye color or your gender or anything else.”

He said he does not plan to take any further legal action.

Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.

The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average.

Jordan alleged his rejection from the police force was discrimination. He sued the city, saying his civil rights were violated because he was denied equal protection under the law.

But the U.S. District Court found that New London had “shown a rational basis for the policy.” In a ruling dated Aug. 23, the 2nd Circuit agreed. The court said the policy might be

Just more proof that your pig in uniform is just a brain dead thug who just does what he's told. They don't want someone who can think for themselves. They want someone who can follow orders and not question authority or be able to think logically or critically.

Remember that the next time you get pulled over for not wearing a seat belt. Mr. Revenue enforcer is most likely less intelligent than you are, and now you have a court case to prove it.

[ximmy]

there is always the danger that IQ officers may hesitate to kill unarmed civilians...

[drafter]

I used to think being "over qualified" was a myth. I mean really, how can you be "over" qualified for something? Wouldn't logic say, "gee you're better than perfect for the job!", but no, you can actually be "too" smart. Like I said, I used to think it was a myth until i became unemployed and applied for a job with the city after a long and successful career in the private sector. They honest to god sent me a letter saying thanks, but that I was "over qualified". WTF?? The world ceases to make sense for me these days.

[Horn]

He said he does not plan to take any further legal action.

I have to commend him on this, as it might've resulted in what the state ultimately wants,

removing the exam all together so dunces are allowed in.

[Ares]

I used to think being "over qualified" was a myth. I mean really, how can you be "over" qualified for something? Wouldn't logic say, "gee you're better than perfect for the job!", but no, you can actually be "too" smart. Like I said, I used to think it was a myth until i became unemployed and applied for a job with the city after a long and successful career in the private sector. They honest to god sent me a letter saying thanks, but that I was "over qualified". WTF?? The world ceases to make sense for me these days.

Welcome to the club, I've been out of work since early February due to a reorganization with the company I was with. I've gotten 3 letters of being over qualified. I wrote one of them back in frustration and said wouldn't you want someone who knows what they are doing? This is your business network we are talking about. Isn't system stability and 99% up time a goal for any business to achieve?

No response. I actually dumbed down my resume and only put a fraction of my real skill set on it. I'm getting more calls for interviews than ever now... Go figure

[ximmy]

I used to think being "over qualified" was a myth. I mean really, how can you be "over" qualified for something? Wouldn't logic say, "gee you're better than perfect for the job!", but no, you can actually be "too" smart. Like I said, I used to think it was a myth until i became unemployed and applied for a job with the city after a long and successful career in the private sector. They honest to god sent me a letter saying thanks, but that I was "over qualified". WTF?? The world ceases to make sense for me these days.

Not for cashier jobs at mcdonalds...

McDonald's demands a bachelor's degree and two years' experience

Submitted by vic223 (http://www.dailypaul.com/user/20301) on Mon, 04/08/2013 (http://www.dailypaul.com/date/2013/04/08) - 15:06in

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http://www.9news.com/video/2275088254001/1/McDonalds-Cashier... (http://www.9news.com/video/2275088254001/1/McDonalds-Cashier-Job-Requires-Bachelors-Degree)
It used to be high school drop outs flipping burgers at McDonald's, now the fast-food joint is demanding a bachelors degree.
In a frightening example of how competitive the job market is for young people right now, a McDonald's outpost in Winchedon, Massachusetts, has just posted a call-out for a full time cashier - but insists only college graduates need apply.
And even they must have 1-2 years of cashier experience before they'll be trusted with the Big-Mac-selling responsibility, according to the advert.

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[Ares]

Not for cashier jobs at mcdonalds...

McDonald's demands a bachelor's degree and two years' experienceSubmitted by vic223 (http://www.dailypaul.com/user/20301) on Mon, 04/08/2013 (http://www.dailypaul.com/date/2013/04/08) - 15:06in

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http://www.9news.com/video/2275088254001/1/McDonalds-Cashier... (http://www.9news.com/video/2275088254001/1/McDonalds-Cashier-Job-Requires-Bachelors-Degree)
It used to be high school drop outs flipping burgers at McDonald's, now the fast-food joint is demanding a bachelors degree.
In a frightening example of how competitive the job market is for young people right now, a McDonald's outpost in Winchedon, Massachusetts, has just posted a call-out for a full time cashier - but insists only college graduates need apply.
And even they must have 1-2 years of cashier experience before they'll be trusted with the Big-Mac-selling responsibility, according to the advert.

That touches on a theory I formed when I was going to college. Degree inflation, I even discussed it with a fellow student (she was taking liberal arts). I said look around 1/4 of the student body is foreigners hoping to get a good job in America (Purdue University campus example) the rest are your typical hodge podge of Americans from lower middle class to extremely wealthy. I said look around, you are going to be competing with them for jobs later in life. She said no I won't I'll have my masters by then. I said ok, what percentage of the 20,000 students do you think are going to get their masters degree? She gave me a blank look and said I don't know. Well they aren't all here for their bachelors and are going to be done. What we are witnessing (late 90's early 2000's) was the run up into degree inflation. A couple months later we went to McDonalds for lunch, guy behind the counter had a Bachelors degree in physics. Walking back to the table, I said see... Degree inflation. It's like a high school diploma now everyones got one or is in the process of getting one. So what real value does it bring?

[Horn]

No response. I actually dumbed down my resume and only put a fraction of my real skill set on it. I'm getting more calls for interviews than ever now... Go figure

I have 3 different resumes I use as templates, then customize after I find out what the company does.

If I imagine there are only younger folks in it, I clip my first few places of employment off of them. :)

[Ares]

I have 3 different resumes I use as templates, then customize after I find out what the company does.

If I imagine there are only younger folks in it, I clip my first few places of employment off of them. :)

Yep always have to customize your resume to the place you are applying. But I noticed if I put VMware with SAN experience for a job that's looking for just standard system admin work I wouldn't get many responses. So I guess the rule should be, don't put anything more than what they are looking for apparently.....

[Horn]

Yep always have to customize your resume to the place you are applying. But I noticed if I put VMware with SAN experience for a job that's looking for just standard system admin work I wouldn't get many responses. So I guess the rule should be, don't put anything more than what they are looking for apparently.....

Go out & get a fancy hip haircut & include a mugshot there, sometimes that's all they're looking for.