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vacuum
8th May 2013, 09:16 AM
Written 7 months ago.

If the researcher's theory (http://arxiv.org/abs/1108.2455) is correct, we're still hovering right by the danger zone of price, displayed by this image (http://www.fao.org/fileadmin/templates/worldfood/images/home_graph_3.jpg) on the Food and Agriculture Organization of the UN website (http://www.fao.org/worldfoodsituation/wfs-home/foodpricesindex/en/).

What’s the number one reason we riot? The plausible, justifiable motivations of trampled-upon humanfolk to fight back are many—poverty, oppression, disenfranchisement, etc—but the big one is more primal than any of the above. It’s hunger, plain and simple. If there’s a single factor that reliably sparks social unrest, it’s food becoming too scarce or too expensive. So argues a group of complex systems theorists in Cambridge, and it makes sense.
In a 2011 paper (http://arxiv.org/pdf/1108.2455v1.pdf), researchers at the Complex Systems Institute unveiled a model that accurately explained why the waves of unrest that swept the world in 2008 and 2011 crashed when they did. The number one determinant was soaring food prices. Their model identified a precise threshold for global food prices that, if breached, would lead to worldwide unrest.
The MIT Technology Review (http://www.technologyreview.com/view/425019/the-cause-of-riots-and-the-price-of-food/) explains how CSI’s model works: “The evidence comes from two sources. The first is data gathered by the United Nations that plots the price of food against time, the so-called food price index of the Food and Agriculture Organisation of the UN. The second is the date of riots around the world, whatever their cause.” Plot the data, and it looks like this:
http://www.viceland.com/viceblog/80453462Riots-global.jpg
Pretty simple. Black dots are the food prices, red lines are the riots. In other words, whenever the UN’s food price index, which measures the monthly change in the price of a basket of food commodities, climbs above 210, the conditions ripen for social unrest around the world. CSI doesn’t claim that any breach of 210 immediately leads to riots, obviously; just that the probability that riots will erupt grows much greater. For billions of people around the world, food comprises up to 80% of routine expenses (for rich-world people like you and I, it’s like 15%). When prices jump, people can’t afford anything else; or even food itself. And if you can’t eat—or worse, your family can’t eat—you fight.
But how accurate is the model? An anecdote the researchers outline in the report offers us an idea. They write that “on December 13, 2010, we submitted a government report analyzing the repercussions of the global financial crises, and directly identifying the risk of social unrest and political instability due to food prices.” Four days later, Mohamed Bouazizi set himself on fire as an act of protest in Tunisia. And we all know what happened after that (http://utopianist.com/2011/02/protest-gone-pop-how-we-watch-forward-remix-the-revolution/).

read more: http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/we-are-now-one-year-and-counting-from-global-riots-complex-systems-theorists-say--2

Serpo
8th May 2013, 01:56 PM
Silver maybe their Achilles heal but food is ours

Ponce
8th May 2013, 02:32 PM
No matter what happens in the US it will happen in winter and I already said why....I mentioned this before.....mark my words.

V

ximmy
8th May 2013, 02:42 PM
How far away are we from $300.00 silver?

Serpo
8th May 2013, 02:47 PM
about 277$

Neuro
8th May 2013, 02:52 PM
So food index needs to get to approximately 1000, for riots in the west? Give or take some... Anyone have any recent chart?

Anyway the idea makes perfect sense!

Cebu_4_2
8th May 2013, 03:07 PM
I don't know, that chart pretty much indicates a time when they needed the wests global banking system freedomed into their existence.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX5ZRE26YWM

Shami-Amourae
8th May 2013, 03:13 PM
Silver maybe their Achilles heal but food is ours

No, Bitcoin is.

Neuro
8th May 2013, 03:47 PM
No, Bitcoin is.
I doubt bitcoin will have any impact on any riots ever!

Serpo
8th May 2013, 08:19 PM
I doubt bitcoin will have any impact on any riots ever!




It seems Bart Chilton is now looking into bit coin......silver was too hard

ximmy
8th May 2013, 08:22 PM
I will trade you 10 bitcoins on this flash drive for 5 gallons of water...

vacuum
2nd July 2013, 07:25 PM
In August the riots are supposed to start happening

Ares
2nd July 2013, 07:38 PM
In August the riots are supposed to start happening

Does Egypt count?

vacuum
2nd July 2013, 07:47 PM
Does Egypt count?

And Brazil (and maybe Istanbul)? Probably.

edit:

ok, this website shows the food price index:
http://www.fao.org/worldfoodsituation/foodpricesindex/en/


» The FAO Food Price Index averaged 215.2 points in May 2013, very close to its April value of 215.8 points but 10 points (5 percent) higher than in May last year. At that level, the index is nearly 10 percent below the peak reached in February 2011. The small decline in May was the result of falling dairy and sugar prices, which more than offset an increase in cereals. Oils and meat prices remained unchanged.


The original paper is here:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1108.2455v1.pdf

In it, they say the following:

These observations are consistent with a hypothesis that high global food prices are a

precipitating condition for social unrest. More specically, food riots occur above a threshold
of the FAO price index of 210

zap
2nd July 2013, 09:53 PM
Food prices are way up.... in the next town there is a Safeway and everytime I go in there it is at least $80
The prices are extra high since they have no competition in town, everything is 5.00 I don't care what you buy 5.00 , Mind you I don't buy any meat there, milk ,eggs, bread 5 5 5,strawberries 5 butter 5 cheddar cheese 5, oatmeal 5 (or it is 4.99!) freaking ridiculous,

I have to drive another 15 miles to the next town to get a decent price on anything,