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Serpo
19th May 2013, 12:02 AM
When the Rothchild’s HKMEx was launched in 2011, much of the metals community assumed that the COMEX & LBMA, were they not to outright default, would fade into irrelevance with the advent of the new Asian metals exchange. Two years to the day after the exchange’s launch however, in perhaps the most glaring evidence of physical gold & silver shortage to date, the HKMEx has announced it will voluntarily cease trading, and all open positions will be closed out and financially (cash) settled on Monday 5/20!As Commodities Now reports, the HKMEx has voluntarily made the decision to cease trading and close out all open positions:

The Hong Kong Mercantile Exchange (HKMEx) announces today it has decided to voluntarily surrender the authorisation to provide automated trading services (“ATS”) granted by the Securities and Futures Commission (“the SFC”).


With immediate effect, no new orders may be placed and all open positions will be financially settled at the settlement price determined by HKMEx and its designated clearinghouse. The HKMEx’s Chairman claims that their priority is to protect members’ interests by closing their positions:“The favourable conditions under which HKMEx was founded have not changed.

Global commodity demand continues to shift towards Asia as the region undergoes sustained growth, presenting great opportunities that we will continue to exploit,” said Barry Cheung, Chairman of HKMEx. “Our priorities now are to protect members’ interests by ensuring effective closing of open positions while strengthening our shareholding base and developing new products that play to our distinctive strengths.

”In closing out the open positions, the Exchange has developed a plan in consultation with the SFC to ensure the process is orderly and that investors are well informed of the matter.

The Exchange will disseminate settlement prices to its members the morning of next Monday, 20 May 2013. In an interview with the South China Morning Post, Cheung claimed that defaulting on metals contracts has no impact on investors:HKMEx chairman Barry Cheung Chun-yuen told the Sunday Morning Postthat the decision to surrender the trading licence and not reopen for business tomorrow would have no impact on investors and that client contracts would be honoured.

“There is no question of not getting your money back or anything like that. People absolutely do not have to worry about that and I don’t think they are.“The only thing they will want to know is what settlement price will be used,” Cheung said.HKMEx was working with LCH.Clearnet – the world’s largest clearing house for financial transaction settlements – to arrange settlement pricing on the exchange’s roughly 200 outstanding contracts, Cheung said.

The tiny number of outstanding contracts reflects the difficulty HKMEx has had in attracting trades to the platform that officially opened almost two years ago to the day on May 18, 2011. We suspect that come Monday morning, more than one Chinese investor who believed he owned a gold position (and learns that in fact he held paper) will immediately attempt to source and take delivery of physical metal.

As the Shanghai Gold Exchange appears to have stopped delivering gold as well, we suspect that the LBMA may be in for a bit of a physical run.

The first domino appears to have fallen in the ponzi fractional gold system.

http://silverdoctors.com/hkmex-to-cease-trading-will-close-out-cash-settle-open-contracts-monday/#more-26786 (http://silverdoctors.com/hkmex-to-cease-trading-will-close-out-cash-settle-open-contracts-monday/#more-26786)

Large Sarge
19th May 2013, 03:00 AM
this is profound,


I mean its a major default,


on a global scale

VX1
19th May 2013, 03:29 AM
Well played, Red Shield, well played.

4909

Serpo
19th May 2013, 03:30 AM
Yes ,its hard to say at this stage what it really means,I guess we will find out soon enough.

Large Sarge
19th May 2013, 03:33 AM
Ok, if I had to guess, geographically I think Dubai is the next close big exchange

then I guess London



we already hear reports that Indian Gold orders are getting 10% of what they order......

this could be a domino effect....

Dubai could default in a week or 3

Serpo
19th May 2013, 04:39 AM
So you dont have to rely on the docs word for this.....;D


(http://www.commodities-now.com/news/14514-hkmex-voluntarily-surrenders-automated-trading-services.html)http://www.commodities-now.com/news/14514-hkmex-voluntarily-surrenders-automated-trading-services.html


India was only getting only 10 th of what they ordered


the exchange sounds small and whether it will have this effect ,doubtful but then the dominoes dont have to be big to start things off,oh hang on its already started with the default,so this is the second domino .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rHfKv9ntcWk http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rHfKv9ntcWk

Jewboo
19th May 2013, 05:06 AM
The tiny number of outstanding contracts reflects the difficulty HKMEx has had in attracting trades to the platform that officially opened almost two years ago to the day on May 18, 2011. We suspect that come Monday morning, more than one Chinese investor who believed he owned a gold position (and learns that in fact he held paper) will immediately attempt to source and take delivery of physical metal.

As the Shanghai Gold Exchange appears to have stopped delivering gold as well, we suspect that the LBMA may be in for a bit of a physical run. The first domino appears to have fallen in the ponzi fractional gold system.

(http://silverdoctors.com/hkmex-to-cease-trading-will-close-out-cash-settle-open-contracts-monday/#more-26786)

These "investors" really that naive?

Spectrism
19th May 2013, 05:52 AM
I guess lying and paying off extra cash for metals positions was getting too complicated. Too difficult to translate good lies followed by serious threats of violence into Chinese and too expensive to keep mouths shut.

Global control requires centralized control. Can't have two unless they are under one.

Horn
19th May 2013, 08:39 AM
Ok, if I had to guess, geographically I think Dubai is the next close big exchange

then I guess London

Or the exchange was setup by insiders initially to fail, then outsiders would second guess the notion of creating their own.

Anyway think the bulk of those participants are smarter when it comes to actually holding the stuff.

Than throwing it around on the crap table.

Ponce
19th May 2013, 08:43 AM
That was really, really, really well planned......if they themselves started to buy in large quantities it would have created a panic......so......they allowed others to buy it for them and then default on the contracts......upssssss, sorry folks but no worries, we are returning all your monies.....sometimes you have to admire those people.

V

VX1
19th May 2013, 09:13 AM
Yep, I remember this opening, like it was yesterday... can't believe it's been two years. I remember thinking that finally the PM manipulation is going to end! Stupid, stupid, stupid. My intuition says it's planned, could be a reason for the crushing PMs have received, and who knows, maybe they let up on the price after these get settled.

Large Sarge
19th May 2013, 09:15 AM
its still a default,

no matter what they term it,

the only reason you settle in cash is because you cannot find the product

just like in India, where only 10% of gold orders are getting delivered....

a default

Swiss Bank, default

Dutch Bank Default

Federal Reserve defaulted to Germany on it gold

its just going to be one default after another,

Horn
19th May 2013, 10:37 AM
its just going to be one default after another,

Who's does the last man standing default to?

gunDriller
19th May 2013, 10:45 AM
When the Rothchild’s HKMEx was launched in 2011, much of the metals community assumed that the COMEX & LBMA, were they not to outright default, would fade into irrelevance with the advent of the new Asian metals exchange. Two years to the day after the exchange’s launch however, in perhaps the most glaring evidence of physical gold & silver shortage to date, the HKMEx has announced it will voluntarily cease trading, and all open positions will be closed out and financially (cash) settled on Monday 5/20


i think that 'cash settled' is the key.

they are getting out while the getting is, well, not good, but possible, do-able.


will this send investors over to Herpes-Mex ? (COMex, i mean. or Leprosy-mex. Typhoid-Mex.)


is HKMex doing this because it is realistic & wise - or is it more to send investors over to Crimex ?

Serpo
19th May 2013, 01:44 PM
Who's does the last man standing default to?




Ponce

Horn
19th May 2013, 01:56 PM
Ponce

I actually edited that question to sound less like Ponce, but it ended up sounding more like Ponce...

Neuro
19th May 2013, 03:08 PM
I don't think this one will have any immediate reaction elsewhere. I think this one may be more of a practice run, for a major exchange defaulting. But who knows if the dominoes happen to be in the correct position...

Serpo
19th May 2013, 03:17 PM
http://www.goldmoney.com/gold-research/alasdair-macleod/bank-balances-and-gold.html?gmrefcode=gata

Neuro
19th May 2013, 03:22 PM
WTF was silver down to $20.23, a few minutes ago?

BrewTech
19th May 2013, 03:25 PM
Yup. If I could find it I would actually buy. I remember this was the price when I got into this metals thing.

Shami-Amourae
19th May 2013, 03:29 PM
Have any of you guys actually read the article?


HKMEx chairman Barry Cheung Chun-yuen told the Sunday Morning Postthat the decision to surrender the trading licence and not reopen for business tomorrow would have no impact on investors and that client contracts would be honoured.
“There is no question of not getting your money back or anything like that. People absolutely do not have to worry about that and I don’t think they are.
“The only thing they will want to know is what settlement price will be used,” Cheung said.

HKMEx was working with LCH.Clearnet – the world’s largest clearing house for financial transaction settlements – to arrange settlement pricing on the exchange’s roughly 200 outstanding contracts, Cheung said.
The tiny number of outstanding contracts reflects the difficulty HKMEx has had in attracting trades to the platform that officially opened almost two years ago to the day on May 18, 2011.



The chairman of the exchange is telling you the reason the exchange shut down. It shut down since no one gives a fuck about buying contracts since there isn't any real demand for the precious metals.

Maybe I'll buy more Silver when it hits $17.


Serious guys. Silver Doctors has to be the biggest source of bullshit in the precious metals community. These are the guys who said the COMEX would go bankrupt and gave a date (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?68782-COMEX-will-default-within-weeks-that-was-the-plan). I said it wouldn't happen. Others said no. I was right. How many times do these scumbags have to bullshit you before you realize they have no credibility.

Serpo
19th May 2013, 03:40 PM
Have any of you guys actually read the article?


The chairman of the exchange is telling you the reason the exchange shut down. It shut down since no one gives a fuck about buying contracts since there isn't any real demand for the precious metals.

Maybe I'll buy more Silver when it hits $17.


Serious guys. Silver Doctors has to be the biggest source of bullshit in the precious metals community. These are the guys who said the COMEX would go bankrupt and gave a date (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?68782-COMEX-will-default-within-weeks-that-was-the-plan). I said it wouldn't happen. Others said no. I was right. How many times do these scumbags have to bullshit you before you realize they have no credibility.

http://www.commodities-now.com/news/14514-hkmex-voluntarily-surrenders-automated-trading-services.html

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1369077753.php

Serpo
19th May 2013, 03:41 PM
WTF was silver down to $20.23, a few minutes ago?

Insanity
so they pay out on opening price for HYMEX holders, how unfortunate it opened down..............

http://silverprice.org/charts/silver_3d_b_o_USD.png?0.4162511750337732

Neuro
19th May 2013, 03:53 PM
Insanity
so they pay out on opening price for HYMEX holders, how unfortunate it opened down..............

http://silverprice.org/charts/silver_3d_b_o_USD.png?0.4162511750337732
I would imagine that this in fact could be the beginning of paper PM default, worldwide. But forget the domino theory, it is a planned event, if it happens now...