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Serpo
22nd May 2013, 06:07 AM
Update: Witnesses Saw People ‘Vaporized’ on 9 11 Update: Witnesses Saw People ‘Vaporized’ on 9 11
by Ed Ward, MD
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Intro by Nila Sagadevan (compiled by Zen Gardner)
Original Article by Zen Gardner http://www.zengardner.com/witnesses-saw-people-vaporized-on-911/
As I revisited this whole nuke thing after all these years and was mulling over the photos of all those singed and bent vehicles, my friend Connie Smith — a long-time 9/11 researcher some of you may know — dropped me a note reminding me of something I’d completely forgotten about: the fascinating case of EMT Patricia Ondrovic.
Connie reminded me of an interview with Ondrovic, published back in October 2001 (and which I’d read circa ‘04). When I expressed an interest to reread it, she dug up a copy and sent it to me (see attached). Ms Ondrovic’s account is truly ‘bizarre’, and a testament to the fact that there were forces at play on 9/11 that modern technology — indeed, mainstream science — simply cannot explain. Please read the attached PDF doc carefully. It’s one a helluva wake-up call.
As this terrified woman was running pell-mell away from the first collapsing tower — her hair, coat and feet on fire — Ms Ondrovic witnessed vehicles parked along the street spontaneously erupt into flames. She even witnessed an aircraft disappear while in flight: “I saw something in the sky, it was a plane, but it was way out. It looked like it was over Jersey or something, then it wasn’t there anymore. I saw a small fireball, and it was gone. I saw two other planes. One came in one way, and the other came in the other way, and there was a plane in the middle that was way far off in the distance. Then the plane in the middle just disappeared into a little fire ball. It looked like the size of a golf ball from where I could see it. And the other two planes veered off into opposite directions. I just kept on running north.” And she’s got a lot more to say.
Then there’s this other chap Connie knows (“a famous author”) who’d interviewed another woman who had witnessed “people engulfed in some sort of fireball and disintegrating.” Connie just dug up the following note from this person to her, and is checking to see if I may get in touch with him directly.
“I interviewed a Red Cross worker in Dallas whose name escapes me at the moment but I have her report in my files. She told me she was sent to NYC by the Red Cross to help survivors of the WTC. She said the thing that most stuck out in her mind after interviewing dozens of people was the number that told her of looking back and seeing people engulfed in some sort of fireball and disintegrating.
Obviously, a collapsing building cannot produce such an effect. But a mini-nuke shaped charge placed in the basement to blow out the central core columns could. A small nuclear device could also explain the pyroplasmic cloud seen above the WTC, the disintegration and warping of heavy steel beams and the pulverization of so much concrete, not to mention the blood cell cancer now suffered by some of the first responders.”
Folks, this obviously isn’t Nanothermite at work here. I can’t even begin to guess what it could be. DEWs, or some similar ‘exotic’ technology, may not be that farfetched after all? As my old Alaskan buddy from Arkansas would’ve exclaimed, “Wayl, ahd be go to hayl!”
Cheers
Nila
(Full quotation by kind permission of Jim Marrs, from his upcoming updated book on 9/11)
By Jim Marrs [Shirley Hoofard: Author’s interview February, 2005]
Felipe David working for Aramark Corp. tending vending machines in a basement of the North Tower recalled, “That day I was in the basement in sub-level 1 sometime after 8:30am. Everything happened so fast, everything moved so fast. The building started shaking after I heard the explosion below; dust was flying everywhere and all of a sudden it got real hot. I threw myself onto the floor, covered my face because I felt like I was burned. I sat there for a couple of seconds on the floor and felt like I was going to die, saying to myself ‘God, please give me strength.’ When I went in, I told them it was an explosion,” David, with his skin hanging in tatters may have been the person helped to safety by William Rodriguez.
http://rense.com/1.imagesH/williams_dees.jpg
Skin dripping off the body was mentioned by several 9/11 victims. Gamma ray radiation can cause a person to just feel heat, then pain and then the skin will be damaged. The skin may be vaporized, charred or left hanging.
Shirley Hoofard was a 38-year-old Red Cross worker in the Dallas area on 9/11. Hoofard was ordered to New York to begin working with victims and their families. She also was ordered not to reveal any information to the media or the public.
“It was very difficult to deal with,” she recalled. “The only way I got through it was to shut down. I didn’t think or feel. I just did what I did. By the middle of January [2002] I said ‘I have to go home.’”
But she could not get out of her mind what some of the victims told her. “Several victims told me they saw people engulfed in a fireball and disintegrating. One man said he was at work when he heard a loud noise and at the far end of the cubicles he saw a man running toward him with a fireball coming after him. The running man just exploded, flying into pieces…I heard stories like that from people from both towers….I don’t know the physics but at what temperature does a human vaporize?”
P.S. from Zen:
Check this out–a further corroberative explanation perhaps?: Updated:
Proven 9-11 Nukes http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2010/09/06/proven-9-11-nukes-us-government-involvement/ (http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2010/09/06/proven-9-11-nukes-us-government-involvement/)
1. Three Massive WTC Craters – See us government LIDAR proof: – Nothing else known to man can leave ALL the WTC debris and this particular evidence in the length of time needed , except a third generation Micro Nuke – Mini Nuke – Nuke. It’s 100% classic textbook nuclear event residue – ZERO ANOMALIES. http://www.usavsus.info/WTC-MoreEvidence.htm (http://www.usavsus.info/WTC-MoreEvidence.htm) – Best,
2. Five Acres (1.2 Billion Pounds = Weight of Residue of 3 WTC Buildings (WTC 1, 2, 6 and 7) of WTC Land Brought to Searing Temperatures in a Few Hours by an ’Anaerobic, Chlorine Fueled “Fire” – Impossible by Basic Laws of Physics. See us gov Thermal Images proof – Nothing else known to man can leave ALL the WTC debris and this particular evidence in the length of time needed , except a third generation Micro Nuke – Mini Nuke – Nuke. It’s 100% classic textbook nuclear event residue – ZERO ANOMALIES. http://www.usavsus.info/WTC-MoreEvidence.htm (http://www.usavsus.info/WTC-MoreEvidence.htm) Best, See: Update http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/correction-9-11-wtcs-1-2-6-and-7-neutron-nuked/ (http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/correction-9-11-wtcs-1-2-6-and-7-neutron-nuked/)
3. Tritium Levels 55 Times (normal) Background Levels assessed a numerical value of ‘traces’ and ‘of no human concern’. See us government (DOE report) proof: – Nothing but a NUCLEAR EVENT can cause ‘tritium’ formation – basic physics fact – Nothing else known to man can leave ALL the WTC debris and this particular evidence in the length of time needed , except a third generation Micro Nuke – Mini Nuke – Nuke. It’s 100% classic textbook nuclear event residue – ZERO ANOMALIES. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/141 (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/141)
4. An Impossible “Fire” (Combustion Process). See Laws of Physics for Fire/Combustion Process and Dr. Cahill’s data on ‘anaerobic incineration’. – Nothing else known to man can leave ALL the WTC debris and this particular evidence in the length of time needed , except a third generation Micro Nuke – Mini Nuke – Nuke. It’s 100% classic textbook nuclear event residue – ZERO ANOMALIES. http://rense.com/general77/newlaws.htm (http://rense.com/general77/newlaws.htm)
5. 3 Billion pounds of building instantly turned into 2 Billion pounds of micronized dust. – Nothing else known to man can leave ALL the WTC debris and this particular evidence in the length of time needed , except a third generation Micro Nuke – Mini Nuke – Nuke. It’s 100% classic textbook nuclear event residue – ZERO ANOMALIES. http://www.serendipity.li/wot/ed_ward/use_of_abombs.htm (http://www.serendipity.li/wot/ed_ward/use_of_abombs.htm) Best
6. 16 inch steel Spires that withstood 1/2 a Billion pounds of building falling on them and suddenly turn into limp noodles and partially vaporize. Nothing else known to man can leave ALL the WTC debris and this particular evidence in the length of time needed , except a third generation Micro Nuke – Mini Nuke – Nuke. It’s 100% classic textbook nuclear event residue – ZERO ANOMALIES. http://www.usavsus.info/WTC-MoreEvidence.htm (http://www.usavsus.info/WTC-MoreEvidence.htm) Also: The Collapse of the Spire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W0-W582fNQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W0-W582fNQ)
7. Hiroshima effect cancers in responders and locals. Nothing else known to man can leave ALL the WTC debris and this particular evidence in the length of time needed , except a third generation Micro Nuke – Mini Nuke – Nuke. It’s 100% classic textbook nuclear event residue – ZERO ANOMALIES.
http://www.usavsus.info/WTC-MoreEvidence.htm (http://www.usavsus.info/WTC-MoreEvidence.htm) , http://www.serendipity.li/wot/ed_ward/use_of_abombs.htm (http://www.serendipity.li/wot/ed_ward/use_of_abombs.htm)
All of the above are facts are proven with referenced links of reputable data sources – many are from the government itself and more…
The September 11 Records http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html (http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html)
Patricia Ondrovic PDF http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110048.PDF (http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110048.PDF)
“He looked absolutely terrified, he was shaking, he was pale, he was sweating. I looked at him, I said what’s wrong? He said there’s another plane headed our way, and they just blew up the Pentagon. I said, another plane? What are you talking about? I hadn’t realized that planes had hit this, I thought they just set bombs off. I didn’t realize when I got there that planes hit it. I said, what do you mean another plane? He said two planes hit the World Trade Center.” According to this – a fourth plane was on the way for WTC 7?
My partner and I grabbed our stretcher, went to put it in the back of our vehicle, and at that time, I think it was the lobby of the building behind us blew out.
Everybody started running, I didn’t see him again that day. He got thrown one way, I got thrown the other way.
I started running towards the West Side Highway, and there was another building on the corner, I guess it was a federal building, cause it was all the green and gray uniforms with the Smokey the Bear hats, the cops in there. I went to run in the lobby cause all of a sudden you couldn’t see anything.
There was smoke, there was debris, there was everything flying around. I ran into the lobby cause I had no idea what had happened and the cops that were in there were telling everybody get out, get out, get out. Where are you gonna go? Stuffs blowing up. So I ran back out…
Related article with more eye witness testimony: Bombs in the WTC Proves Nothing to Racist-Fascist Bigots. http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/08/21/ward.htm (http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/08/21/ward.htm)
Ed Ward, MD – http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/ (http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/) ; https://www.facebook.com/EdWardMD3 (https://www.facebook.com/EdWardMD3) ; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/messages (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/messages)
Dimona Does Damascus: Israeli Nukes in Damascus, Syria http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2013/05/06/dimona-does-damascus-israeli-nukes-in-damascus-syria/ (http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2013/05/06/dimona-does-damascus-israeli-nukes-in-damascus-syria/)
More US Drill Death in Waco Explosion – Drill Stops for Reality, Again http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2013/04/28/more-us-drill-death-in-waco-drill-stops-for-reality-again/ (http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2013/04/28/more-us-drill-death-in-waco-drill-stops-for-reality-again/)
Boston Marathon: The Finish Line For US Treason. Drill Death. Everything’s In Place For Police State. by Ed Ward, MD http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/boston-marathon-the-finish-line-for-us-treason-drill-death-everything-is-in-place-for-police-state-by-ed-ward-md/ (http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/boston-marathon-the-finish-line-for-us-treason-drill-death-everything-is-in-place-for-police-state-by-ed-ward-md/)
Pictures: US Boston Weapon – Both ‘Explosions’ – The Secret of the Pure Fusion Weapon – Li7 – Lithium 7 http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2013/04/19/photograph-of-boston-fireball-2nd-explosion/ (http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2013/04/19/photograph-of-boston-fireball-2nd-explosion/)
Dr. Ed Ward MD, AS, BS, MD – Reporting and investigating Constitutional abuses of the US government for almost 2 decades. AS, BS in Medical Technology – Minor in Organic Chemistry and Physics, volunteer during the Viet Nam war 6 years stateside active duty ‘med tech’ ‘US Air Farce’ – a decade experience in Medical Technology. MD degree from LSU, New Orleans – 2 decades in the field of General Practice. (My) Articles are also referenced by valid experts in their field. Dr Ed

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palani
22nd May 2013, 06:35 AM
Suppose this is why radiation detectors are banned in New York city?

Serpo
22nd May 2013, 01:46 PM
Suppose this is why radiation detectors are banned in New York city?


Yes remember the truth would be too scary for us .

Hatha Sunahara
22nd May 2013, 02:08 PM
Dimitri Khalezov (who disappeared from public view around April 2011) described it in his videos and in his book (The Third Truth) not as vaporization but as pulverization or disintegration. A nuclear blast will turn objects into powder, not necessarily into a gas or vapor. Khalezov says that the buildings were brought down by 150 kt nuclear devices under each building. He describes a 'crush zone' about 300 meters above the blast in which the buildings were pulverized, and a damage zone where the blast tore the builgings up into larger pieces, and above 350 meters, there was no damage--so the tops of the buildings came down and were only damaged by the fall, not the nuclear device. Khalezov's book is well worth reading. You can download it and get links to his videos here:

http://www.dimitri-khalezov-video.com/


Here is another link with a good summary of Kalezov's thesis.

http://skypotrol.net/2011/02/05/reality-is-stranger-than-fiction-dimitri-khalezov-discusses-911-with-george-mapp-in-bangkok/




Hatha

FreeEnergy
22nd May 2013, 10:18 PM
Hatha, great links! Excellent video, with this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lec9giab90I

Serpo
23rd May 2013, 02:12 AM
above link is the full version whereas before it was cut into 10 minute segments

Dimitri Khalezov - WTC Nuclear Demolition [Complete / Full Length]

Serpo
24th May 2013, 04:11 PM
FIRST ATOMIC BOMB DROPPED ON JAPAN_________________Steel NEW YORK TIMES
. AUGUST 7, 1945Tower 'Vaporized' In Trial of Mighty Bomb ********************** Scientists Awe-struck at Blinding Flash Lighted New Mexico Dessert and Great Cloud Bore 40,000 Feet Into Sky********************** By Lewis Wood

(EXCERPT)
WASHINGTON, Aug 6 - A blinding flash many times as brilliant as the midday sun and a massive multi-colored cloud boiling up 40,000 feet into the air accompanied the first test firing of an atomic bomb on July 16, three week ago today. Set in the remote desert lands of New Mecixo, the experiment was seen against a wild background......
A steel tower from which the atomic weapon hung was vaporized. In its place was only a huge sloping crater. At the moment of the exposion a mountain range three miles distant stood out sharply in brilliant light...........

http://tomatobubble.com/id238.html

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/22/911/

Horn
24th May 2013, 06:19 PM
Obviously, a collapsing building cannot produce such an effect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_explosion

Hatha Sunahara
25th May 2013, 11:24 AM
I learned a lot from Khalezov's explanations. Mostly about the differences between an atmospheric nuclear explosion and an underground explosion. What we saw on 911 was a clever exploitation of everyone's ignorance of the character of an underground blast. Apparently a nuclear explosion puts out energy in forms other than heat and radiation. One form of energy it puts out is a 'blast wave' which shakes everything in its range so violently that it turns to powder. And these blasts in lower manhattan were designed to include the WTC towers in the range of that blast wave from an underground explosion. And when we look at it, we all say WTF? And Khalezov explains WTF.


Hatha

FreeEnergy
25th May 2013, 01:11 PM
Hatha, that's exactly right.

I've been to ground zero exactly two weeks after. When I first came close (and they weren't letting people in closer than 3 blocks or so), you'd walk for blocks and blocks and see all this dust, everywhere, they tried to wash it off but couldn't all of it. Really microscopic dust, covering buildings up to maybe third floor. That was the first when I said to myself "WTF".

And then my camera didn't work. It had what I thought was a dead battery, and it was fully charged when I was getting ready. I walked into a store to buy battery, and indian guy just tells me "we are all out of batteries". That was a second "WTF".

The third one was when none of the cellphones worked on the day of the event, I know because I was trying to call people in NYC all day, couldn't get through until very late in the afternoon.

The fourth was when they said on TV they shut down a plain over Pennsylvania, and then changed their version.

The fifth was when it looked completely foolish for them to say that a plane hit Pentagon. Really you have to be a completely zombified sheep to believe that load of crap.

--
So when Khalezov puts 2 and 2 together and it fits, it fits better than anything that's out there.

Hatha Sunahara
25th May 2013, 09:33 PM
Khalezov says there are three truths about 911. One for the masses--which is the Arab Hijacker story. Then there is one for 'officialdom' meaning politicians--less widely known, but apparently believed by the politicians who weren't in on it. And then there is the truth known by the perpetrators. I'm not sure what the politicians believe, but it is not the same story as what they feed the sheeple. I haven't a clue of what the real truth is either, but I know it would shred the perception of reality held by most of the sheeple about their government. The sheeple wouldn't believe it--and that's what protects the perpetrators. That's the biggest obstacle for the 911 truthers--not the truth itself, but that ordinary people are so stuck on authority that they wouldn't believe it. People believe their government exists to provide order--not to destroy it.


Hatha